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Root and flash Orange branded (but unlocked) Desire

Hi,
I just bought a HTC Desire from Orange FR.
I bought an unlock code on ebay, it worked very well.
My question is : If I root my phone, and flash a generic Europe rom, will my phone still be unlocked or not ?
Do I still need to do the gold card ?
Thank you for your help

Yes your phone will still be unlocked, it doesn't matter what you do to the phone now, it will always be unlocked (unless you change mainboard)
No, you shouldn't need GoldCard now either, but if it's not working, then obviously use a GoldCard

Really good to hear,
Thank you for your answer !

You will still need a goldcard to root.
The sim lock has nothing to do with the goldcard.
You will also find that if you flash a rom with a new radio it will sim lock your phone again. You just need to re enter your unlock code to fix that though.

socktug said:
You will still need a goldcard to root.
The sim lock has nothing to do with the goldcard.
You will also find that if you flash a rom with a new radio it will sim lock your phone again. You just need to re enter your unlock code to fix that though.
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I flashed the new leaked radio and it didn't sim lock my phone, I got branded Orange UK, had to unroot to unlock it then re-root and now I've flashed a few radios and it's still unlocked
And sorry about the information about the GoldCard, I read it and thought that you only needed it if the carrier was locked, not that it was branded, so yes you will need GoldCard

You may have been lucky with the radio flashes! There have been loads of posts from Orange users who have flashed any radio other than the 405 one and it locked their phones. Either way, once you have the unlock code you are sorted anyway

socktug said:
You may have been lucky with the radio flashes! There have been loads of posts from Orange users who have flashed any radio other than the 405 one and it locked their phones. Either way, once you have the unlock code you are sorted anyway
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Yer, it sim locks Orange if you haven't already unlocked it, it used to sim lock mine and even if I entered the unlock code it wouldn't unlock, I had to unroot and everything just to unlock, and now I can flash any radio and it stays unlocked

Do I have to root to do this ? :
How to flash ROM
You need to have HTC Sync and Android SDK installed
Download this
Turn off Desire and then turn it on while holding back button to enter bootloader(white screen)
Once in "white screen" press power button again to enter bootloader
Connect Desire with PC
Press Volume Down and than Power to enter Recovery
Now the red triangle should show up, go to folder you downloaded file and press recovery-windows.bat, recovery-mac.sh or recovery-linux.sh depending on which OS you have
Now you are in recovery mode (green screen), press Wipe and than Wipe data/clear storage, than press optical tracker to confirm it
After that press Volume Down to go back to main menu in recovery
Navigate to Flash zip from sdcard using optical tracker, select .zip confirm it and wait until process finish, after that press Reboot system and unplug you Desire
Enjoy your new ROM
I just want to flash a generic Europe rom.
Thank you

Yes you need root to do that

Hi, Thank you for your help..
A few questions please.
I had to make a goldcard even if phone was SIMUnlocked.
It worked well, my phone is now rooted.
Android says there is an update available, 1.21... it tries to install, phone reboot, green logo appears, and then logo change to red ? and reboot, phone not updated.
What does it mean ?
I had a Orange France branded phone, the rooted generic rom is it "Europe" there is French language in it.
Is it needed to update to 1.21 ?
Do I have to find an Europe ROM ?
When I try to flash any ROM (like Europe official ROM) by renaming it to update.zip with recovery menu, if fails, signature error. Do I need the "ClockworkMod" ?
Thank you for all

If your rooted, you can flash any ROM you want, you don't need to update to 1.21.
But for some ROMs it requires you to install a new radio first, so watch out for that.

Well, not sure how to do it.
On recovery menu ? flash a zip from SDCard and select it ?
The OTA 1.21 update fails do flash with a red "?" is it normal ?
If I update with OTA Update, it will remove root access, right ?
Thank you

Orphee said:
Well, not sure how to do it.
On recovery menu ? flash a zip from SDCard and select it ?
The OTA 1.21 update fails do flash with a red "?" is it normal ?
If I update with OTA Update, it will remove root access, right ?
Thank you
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Correct!
If you flash an OTA or official update from HTC you will lose root.
In recovery, choose flash a zip from sd card, then select the one you want. It's not always needed, but it's a good idea to do a full wipe before each new rom. If you experience odd behaviour and you haven't wiped, then reflash it after wiping.

Thank you for your help and your patience.
Is there any advantage to find a 1.21 rooted update ?
or rooted 1.15 is enough ?
thank you again.

As far as I know 1.21 has a few minor fixes, and a couple of new icons.
Just out of curiosity, what did you root for? Most people do it for apps2sd or to put a custom rom on. I'm just wondering, that's all

Well, I had a branded orange ROM, I wanted to remove it.
I thought I needed to root to flash the phone, maybe I'm wrong. I had to make a goldcard.
I will probably use apps2sd in the next few days, I just need to know if I can still have (need ?) goldcard and apps2sd..
I did not search but I saw you format SD to install apps2sd, I don't know if I can install goldcard again after. I will search for it.
Now my phone is rooted (and unlocked with code before flash), I don't know if I need to keep goldcard.

Orphee said:
Well, I had a branded orange ROM, I wanted to remove it.
I thought I needed to root to flash the phone, maybe I'm wrong. I had to make a goldcard.
I will probably use apps2sd in the next few days, I just need to know if I can still have (need ?) goldcard and apps2sd..
I did not search but I saw you format SD to install apps2sd, I don't know if I can install goldcard again after. I will search for it.
Now my phone is rooted (and unlocked with code before flash), I don't know if I need to keep goldcard.
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You didn't need to root if you just wanted to debrand away from Orange, a goldcard and official wwe rom would have done. As you want to use apps2sd then rooting was the right option though!
I'm not 100% sure on the goldcard, if you need it again, but I do know you will wipe your SD card for apps2sd. You need to partition it which basically reformats it.

Yeah I saw this, I have to check if I can restore Goldcard after.
Is WWE recommanded for me ? I guess rooted image is WWE (there French language is in it, why ?) ... My as I'm in France, I don't know if I need to find a European ROM or not
Thank you

Orphee said:
I will probably use apps2sd in the next few days, I just need to know if I can still have (need ?) goldcard and apps2sd..
I did not search but I saw you format SD to install apps2sd, I don't know if I can install goldcard again after. I will search for it.
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You will need goldcard every time you flash something on your phone. That's why I use 2 sd cards: one as a goldcard when I flash roms, and other one for every day, which I partitioned...

djoni1980 said:
You will need goldcard every time you flash something on your phone. That's why I use 2 sd cards: one as a goldcard when I flash roms, and other one for every day, which I partitioned...
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Well I don't use a GoldCard everytime
Mine works just fine without a GoldCard

[Q] help!! update to 2.2

now I use this RUU :RUU_Bravo_Virgin_Mobile_1.23.351.1_Radio_32.36.00. 28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_128941_signed.exe
I downloaded it from our forum.
But I can not get the 2.2 update notice. and can not change the rom to anothers official rom also.
my Desire's shipment place is Spain.
IS THERE SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME? THANKS A LOT!!!

I was heard there are many many heros in this forum。
But........nobody help me

I think u need a RUU_BRAVO_HTC_WWE ROM not an Virgin Mobile because the update only for not branded roms at this time

Yep Virgin haven't rolled out yet.

but my question is how can i REINSTALL the other offical roms? how can i remove this rom?

z174621 said:
but my question is how can i REINSTALL the other offical roms? how can i remove this rom?
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Create a goldcard and insert it in the phone and run the generic WWE RUU

WHEN i install this rom:
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed
a error come out when it do the signing.
It is said: the bootloader XXXXXX wrong.....
Any body help?

pls help! the attachement was the Pic When I do the flashing rom.

Do i need the GOLD CARD when I flash the
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.
My phone was shiped to Spain.

if you get this error, than yes you need a goldcard.
To make one is not that difficult, try to search for a goldcardtool.

Hey...
I got this error too but I had a goldcard in my phone!
just flashed the official 2.2 rooted!
Does anyone have an idea if there is a RUU that works with bootloader 0.80 without downgrading it to 0.75?
Thx

I have successfully debranded my 3 branded Desire with software version 1.22.771.1. Steps:
1. Make a goldcard.
2. With unrevoked3 root your phone.
3. Patch the /misc partition with update.zip (found on modaco forums, www .shadowchild. nl/fixmisc/update.zip).
4. Install RUU with goldcard in phone (you won't get error 140). I had to restart my phone with adb reboot bootloader.
5. Flash OTA update.zip from sdcard.
This worked for me.

Works with vodafone bloatware
Many, many thanks!! Like so many others, I downloaded vf's wonderful update(?). The partition patch worked like a dream - no more bootloader errors when trying to flash. I now have a working version of 1.21.405.2.

[Q] Two questions

I'm on T-Mobile UK and getting the DHD soon. I've done quite a bit of reading on rooting and I will definitely do it for the added benefits to my phone. I have two questions surrounding the subject...
1. The VISIONary page says to have a 'safety net' ready before attempting to permaroot. Can someone tell me, or point me in the right direction (Links would be nice) to preparing a copy of the stock ROM to reinstall if something goes wrong? If there are any guides please share =)
2. If I needed to send it for repairs would the only thing I really need to do is to use VISIONary to Unroot the phone? What about any apps that required rooting? Would they have to be un-installed first? I assume that in such a scenario once I got the phone back just re-root it again.

Hi and welcome to XDA.
nikmesh said:
1. The VISIONary page says to have a 'safety net' ready before attempting to permaroot. Can someone tell me, or point me in the right direction (Links would be nice) to preparing a copy of the stock ROM to reinstall if something goes wrong? If there are any guides please share =)
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One such "safety net" is to ensure you have all the correct drivers installed on your host computer, just install HTC Sync 3 and it will take care of that. Also download the correct RUU (Rom Update Utility) for your particular region & carrier. You can use this to revert your DHD to the state it was when you took it out of the box.
Here you can find the --> Desire HD Files. HTC Sync will come on the SD Card of your new phone.
nikmesh said:
2. If I needed to send it for repairs would the only thing I really need to do is to use VISIONary to Unroot the phone? What about any apps that required rooting? Would they have to be un-installed first? I assume that in such a scenario once I got the phone back just re-root it again.
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Using the above RUU's your DHD will be factory restored. Everything you did will be reverted back. All the apps you installed will be removed. There would be technically no way HTC would know you rooted your DHD.

andyharney said:
One such "safety net" is to ensure you have all the correct drivers installed on your host computer, just install HTC Sync 3 and it will take care of that. Also download the correct RUU (Rom Update Utility) for your particular region & carrier. You can use this to revert your DHD to the state it was when you took it out of the box.
Here you can find the --> Desire HD Files. HTC Sync will come on the SD Card of your new phone.
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Thanks for the answer.
How do I know what RUU to use? From my glance I would assume mine would be the: TMO DE 1.39.111. Also know how I can confirm if it's the same version as mine or older? thanks.

If your getting it from T-Mobile UK then you will need a TMO-UK RUU, sadly there isn't one available yet. The TMO DE is for T-Mobile Germany.
You could use a generic HTC RUU, just find the latest version. If you are planning to root, S-OFF, etc... then avoid this --> RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release. As this will lock down your DHD.

Thanks again. Though I'm not sure if I shouldn't just wait for a TMO-UK RUU to make an appearance before I root my phone.....Would a generic HTC RUU work for my current firmware? Also wouldn't a generic RUU be a problem if I tried to send it back for repairs?
Oh also I heard mention of a gold card a couple of times here and there. Would this be needed for using an RUU?

No problem at all,
Yes a generic HTC RUU would work. I got my DHD from Orange UK, as it was from the first batch I received it unlocked & unbranded, just a generic HTC DHD. Although carriers will supply you with a branded & locked handset 99% of the time, people still get generic HTC handsets.
If it went in for repairs, T-Mobile will just replace the software for their own anyway.
A goldcard is a modified SD Card that will allow you to flash unsigned ROM's to a locked (S-ON) handset.

[Q] Can't downgrade my unbranded DHD from 2.2.1 to 1.32.405.6

I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD

ruben_swing said:
I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD
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You tried this description, and followed it word for word?
And to my knowledge you should not need to create a goldcard when you have an unbranded device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003

Sorry but the same customer id error even when after following the guide u mentioned

ruben_swing said:
I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD
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I had the exact problem. I created a goldcard, and everthing worked out fine. Not sure why a goldcard is required even when our device is apparently unbranded, but anyways, goldcard does the work.
Try following this guide:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/

nayan8teen said:
I had the exact problem. I created a goldcard, and everthing worked out fine. Not sure why a goldcard is required even when our device is apparently unbranded, but anyways, goldcard does the work.
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Thank you so much for replying. I have yet to try out the guide you have mentioned in the link, however, I do need to ask one or two questions:
1. If I create a goldcard, will I be able to ever upgrade to the Official Gingerbread ROM, when it is released for India.
2. Can I switch between ROMs (stock/non-stock) seamlessly, without any complains.
I would really appreciate if you would really help me out here.

ruben_swing said:
I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD
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I had the same problem with downgrading to 1.3 as of the PD98IMG.zip. tried for 2 days and i kept getting the CID incorrect error. finally it came to me..i wasnt running the command prompt as administrator. it worked like a charm for me. that might be the reason why you're getting the CID incorrect error.

ramanan27 said:
I had the same problem with downgrading to 1.3 as of the PD98IMG.zip. tried for 2 days and i kept getting the CID incorrect error. finally it came to me..i wasnt running the command prompt as administrator. it worked like a charm for me. that might be the reason why you're getting the CID incorrect error.
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I am still getting the CID incorrect error. however, I did manage to find something very helpful in this regard, and I would like to share it with you wonderful ppl, who took the time out to help me, check the link given below:
androidforums.com/desire-hd-all-things-root/323976-cid-incorrect-update-fail-desire-hd-firmware-downgrading-1-32-405-6-1-84-720-3-a.html
The above is a link
Once again thank you all for helping me, and in case you do have some updates about this, pls keep me posted

ruben_swing said:
Thank you so much for replying. I have yet to try out the guide you have mentioned in the link, however, I do need to ask one or two questions:
1. If I create a goldcard, will I be able to ever upgrade to the Official Gingerbread ROM, when it is released for India.
2. Can I switch between ROMs (stock/non-stock) seamlessly, without any complains.
I would really appreciate if you would really help me out here.
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For your first question, no. And it has nothing to do with goldcard. I you are rooted and use some custom rom, you will not receive any official updates. Although you can at anytime go back to stock to get them.
But beleive me, when you start using custom roms, you do not need the official updates. I too am from India, and was waiting for the official 2.3.3, but finally a few days back decided to root and go for custom rom (RCMixHD Kingdom). And i am loving it..
So go ahead, make your goldcard.
And yeah, for your second, yes you can. Although, i dont think you will ever..

[Q] Bricked after OTA update failed

Hi I've been searching for days and have always been able to find answers but this one has got me.
My gf has a HTC Desire HD, pretty sure it's Vodafone since she works there. Tried to do a normal update a while ago and it never started since, just sits on the HTC logo. I can boot into fastboot hboot recovery and all that but I'm stuck as to what to do from here.
I have found a couple of WWE RUU's but the error out with a CID error, I've also found a Vodafone backup someone took from clockwork but this phone only has stock recovery and I don't know how to flash clockwork without being able to boot the phone.
Hoping someone might have an easy answer, please let me know if I need to provide more details.
Thanks.

If its rooted just place a rom on the sd and flash it with full wipe. You are not suppose to accept OTA updates if the phone is rooted if Im not mistaken. If not rooted then go to HTC websight and get the official RUU and install, instructions should be on websight.
http://www.htc.com/europe/help/htc-desire-hd/#download

primussw said:
Hi I've been searching for days and have always been able to find answers but this one has got me.
My gf has a HTC Desire HD, pretty sure it's Vodafone since she works there. Tried to do a normal update a while ago and it never started since, just sits on the HTC logo. I can boot into fastboot hboot recovery and all that but I'm stuck as to what to do from here.
I have found a couple of WWE RUU's but the error out with a CID error, I've also found a Vodafone backup someone took from clockwork but this phone only has stock recovery and I don't know how to flash clockwork without being able to boot the phone.
Hoping someone might have an easy answer, please let me know if I need to provide more details.
Thanks.
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Get me the CID and Iwill provide u with a ruu that works...VODAFONE from where? not all ruu's are available, but at least we can find one that makes your phone back to work...:good:

Unfortuanately it isn't rooted, I probably would've had more luck by now if it was.
I can't see the CID on the bootloader is there a command on fastboot or something to find this? I've been searching but can't find anything.
Sorry I thought of that afterwards, it's Vodafone Australia.
Thanks for the replies guys!

I just tried that European RUU thought I didn't have anything to loose but it came back with ERROR 132 Signature Error.
The Australian HTC site doesn't have a RUU to download that I can see.

primussw said:
I just tried that European RUU thought I didn't have anything to loose but it came back with ERROR 132 Signature Error.
The Australian HTC site doesn't have a RUU to download that I can see.
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Read up here and see if this can help you or not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
Also the other option is to go to the Ace Hack Kit forum IRC Chat room and speak to those guys there. They are Abolutely GREAT with any issues and they might be able to solve your issue. I would try them first. IRC chat towards the bottom of first main post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
Good Luck

primussw said:
Unfortuanately it isn't rooted, I probably would've had more luck by now if it was.
I can't see the CID on the bootloader is there a command on fastboot or something to find this? I've been searching but can't find anything.
Sorry I thought of that afterwards, it's Vodafone Australia.
Thanks for the replies guys!
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yep, do the following: boot in hboot and choose fastboot. Then plug the phone (check that you see fastboot usb in red)
Open cmd as admin or a terminal as root and then, type fastboot getvar all. Get the INFOcidnum and paste it here. With that I will try to find a ruu that works. But stop trying flashing other things...you might mess the device.

Hi
Thanks again for the help. The cidnum: VODAP021
Hope this helps, I haven't checked out those other links yet though.

primussw said:
Hi
Thanks again for the help. The cidnum: VODAP021
Hope this helps, I haven't checked out those other links yet though.
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Ok, I will look for a RUU (to see if I can get one that works, and will send it over a PM)...:laugh:

No post it here in case someone else has the same problem so he too can get the file.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

Solution!!
Ok firstly sorry it's taken me ages to post this but I finally came up with a solution to this problem using a few different guides and instructions on these forums.
So the problem was I had a Vodafone AU branded HTC Desire HD that had no root and a locked bootloader that was stuck in a bootloop after a failed official update. The main problem is that there is NO stock recovery ROM ANYWHERE for a Vodafone AU HTC Desire HD, trust me I looked and I am not new to looking for stuff like this. glevitan provided me with a WW ROM that I managed to get working with a bit of work, there are also many WW ROM's around that you should also be able to use. I'll try to explain as best I can as to how I got it to work (going from memory) so if anyone else has a similar problem they may be able to use this information.
1. Firstly find a suitable WW ROM to flash, it needs to be a PD98IMG.zip image to copy to an SD card. There is a Vodafone AU dump on this forum but that will not work if you are completely stock standard. I think you can get this zip from the RUU or maybe ask glevitan if he wouldn't mind helping in providing this again. I didn't want to link to his file but there are others around.
2. Create a goldcard. If you turn your SD card into a goldcard it will allow any ROM to be flashed, normally it would only accept the Vodafone AU one but by doing this it will accept the WW one. To do this I used a second phone to create the card.
I used the Ultimate multi tool which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180639
You may have to do a bit of reading on getting it to work, from memory you have to put in a number to a website to generate a file, I think I ended up using a different website, there's a few options in getting this done, google is your friend for this
3. Once the goldcard is created copy the PD98IMG.zip to the root directory and put it back into the phone.
4. Turn on the phone and boot to hboot by holding vol up (I think) on power on. The phone should automatically check for a suitable PD98IMG.zip file and as long as the goldcard process worked and you have a suitable ROM on the root directory it should flash it fine.
This is basically what I did and it successfully booted after a lot of looking around. I hope this helps people in the future with similar problems. If you need to ask any questions about this process as I haven't provided every single detail please feel free to contact me and I will do my best to help you out.
Thanks again to glevitan for helping and providing a suitable ROM to flash.