what is aosp and why does it have ddifferent kernels? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so I have gotten into launcher pro and now do not use sense... so I'm interested in aosp ... first off what is it? Why does it have its own kernels? And why would an aosp ROM be better than sense? Do you get better battery life? I guess in general I don't understand it and i didn't find on here where it talks about it.... any help would be great!

Hmm? Good question.

"Question"

AOSP is the Android Open Source Project. It builds from the released source code from google. It's the closest most phones can get to a "Google Experience" phone.
I'm not an expert on the kernels, but I believe that the source code released by the vendors is for reference purposes and not to be used in 3rd party ROMs. Someone else can give a much better answer on this than me.
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adamantypants said:
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balls beat me to it

Chris 2155 said:
Ok so I have gotten into launcher pro and now do not use sense... so I'm interested in aosp ... first off what is it? Why does it have its own kernels? And why would an aosp ROM be better than sense? Do you get better battery life? I guess in general I don't understand it and i didn't find on here where it talks about it.... any help would be great!
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Glad to see your actively contributing to android development!

At the very least you could have posted this in questions thread
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This thread is a fail in multiple ways...
There are multiple kernels for aosp and for sense... different developers put them together. They offer different performance / battery life. Have to find the one that works the best for you.

Chris 2155 said:
Ok so I have gotten into launcher pro and now do not use sense... so I'm interested in aosp ... first off what is it? Why does it have its own kernels? And why would an aosp ROM be better than sense? Do you get better battery life? I guess in general I don't understand it and i didn't find on here where it talks about it.... any help would be great!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695878

Chris 2155 said:
Ok so I have gotten into launcher pro and now do not use sense... so I'm interested in aosp ... first off what is it? Why does it have its own kernels? And why would an aosp ROM be better than sense? Do you get better battery life? I guess in general I don't understand it and i didn't find on here where it talks about it.... any help would be great!
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55 posts... shouldn't you know better?

SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH.
POST IN THE CORRECT SECTION POST IN THE CORRECT SECTION POST IN THE CORRECT SECTION POST IN THE CORRECT SECTION POST IN THE CORRECT SECTION
GOT IT!? I hope so.
anyways:
It means Android Open Source Project.
When you see an AOSP ROM, it means its as basic as it gets. No Sense, no nothing. It runs generally faster than a sense based ROM. You just don't get any of the visual flash. But thats just how it comes... you can then add some flash and make it beautiful, quick, and long lasting on battery life. Cyanogenmod is a beautiful, quick, and long lasting ROM that I highly recomend for your AOSP ROM. It will take some getting used to, but with a few apps and tweaks you wont even realize you aren't using sense anymore.
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everyone on these forums should know that the search feature is a load of cowsh*t!! take a look at what it returns when u search "what is aosp"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=58201161
*note that near the top the search engine says "The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search: what, is"
and not to mention 708 results is more than any human being on this forum or anywhere in the world would be willing to search thru. Yes it couldve been posted in the questions forum ill agree with that but give the man a break it was a very simple question that apparently is too simple for the xda search to find. He woulda been better off googling it. Why people get off on flamning people is beyond me. How many wanna be moderators do we have on these forums?

Nothing to do with people being wanna be mods. It has everything to do with filling the dev forums with crap.
A google search of either of these terms would have answered his question 100% and took less then it did for him to post this.

going to go ahead an throw my .02 cents in here, im going to the gym to get ready for Rehab LV for memorial day. another useless post like this thread.

When I was starting I had to learn everything from the basics and up. I think I posted 1 question. I just read everything i could. I have been doing this for only a few months, I don't know everything but I can get around just fine. These guys have a lot explained in threads and wiki.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936390

Chris 2155 said:
Ok so I have gotten into launcher pro and now do not use sense... so I'm interested in aosp ... first off what is it? Why does it have its own kernels? And why would an aosp ROM be better than sense? Do you get better battery life? I guess in general I don't understand it and i didn't find on here where it talks about it.... any help would be great!
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Chris 2155 said:
Ok so I have gotten into launcher pro and now do not use sense... so I'm interested in aosp ... first off what is it? Why does it have its own kernels? And why would an aosp ROM be better than sense? Do you get better battery life? I guess in general I don't understand it and i didn't find on here where it talks about it.... any help would be great!
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it's all about what you like,after running the mikfroyo Rom for a while(sense Rom)and having tried CM6,CM7 nightlyz, I can honestly say that IMO those feel SLOW (CM6,7) in comparison...and everything works with sense. I agree that launcher pro is great and can add a lot more functionality, even with the dock alone...CM Mods you can customize the hell out of even change the notification bar color within the rom itself which is cool and tons of other things as well but I don't need all that..sense...IMO looks better overall as a user interface , sure launcher pro has sense like widgets,can get the knock off big dumb clock widgets from the market like beautiful widgets,but it's just not the same...I don't know how to explain it....it feels "generic" I guess..for me if my phone was stock vanilla android out of the box like my Samsuck Moment was (except I got a whole 3 home screens to choose from) or the nexus one,then I would run with launcher pro or adw and a CM mod. But in having the evo I can try both (sense,aosp roms) so I guess after rambling on for so long, its about what strikes your fancy more..is one better than the other IMO......no, but you should just do a nandroid back up of your current working set up and try one out CM6,7,or MIUI
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AOSP is the Android Open Source Project, it's the Android source code that Google releases. So when ever a new Android version is released, Google puts it up on the site and everyone is free to use it. OEMs like HTC take that source code to create Android phones. So technically ALL ROMs are AOSP, this includes HTC Sense. A key difference with OEM ROMs, like HTC Sense and Samsung Touchwiz, is that they tend to include closed source proprietary code to make them stand out and have extra features. So the core of that code ends up being very different (and unavailable/unknown) to the original AOSP code. These core differences make kernels incompatible between each other; so AOSP kernels end up only working on ROMs where the core is very similar to the original AOSP code - for the EVO these ROMs include CM, MIUI, and some others I've never bothered to use.

i agree with visionikc03 the xda forum search is no good... when you go to open a thread it will ask you if you have checked xxxx thread before posting thats a better search than the forum search... so is this guy an apple fanboy trolling? i think so...my 02 before the thread is closed/moved/locked

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Where is the true AOSP Rom?

Im not a developer but, isnt all thats needed to make an aosp rom was the kernal source which we now have. yea i know there are some roms on the horizon but im just surprised we havnt seen a true aosp yet.
Or am i missing a peice of the bigger picture.
zikronix said:
Im not a developer but, isnt all thats needed to make an aosp rom was the kernal source which we now have. yea i know there are some roms on the horizon but im just surprised we havnt seen a true aosp yet.
Or am i missing a peice of the bigger picture.
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youre missing a piece of the bigger picture. roms have to be developed and tested. source doesn't mean the rom is already ready to go for every single phone. you have to build the rom from source, this is not something that is done instantly, the same reason you have to wait for htc and sprint to release roms.
Wrong forum.
I dont understand how this is in the wrong forum...its a developement question. Why dont you contribute something helpful instead of trying to be a moderator by proxy. You know like directing me to the proper forum?
anyway
no i understand that portion of that. but I thought that it was easier to build the aosp roms then those with sense crap...when we got hero source there were aosp roms the next day.
Reason why I ask is because I am looking into cooking my own rom...and was basically wondering. as it sits now.is everything availaible to us to make a true aosp rom.
or are we still waiting on some htc bs.
surprisingly, i haven't been too impatient for an AOSP rom. The only reason i want one is for minimum bloatware and Wiimote gaming. And ofcourse, overall performance.
The ROMs that are out right now aren't too shabby, helping me cope with the delays for AOSP
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Wrong forum.
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how so? This is an android development question.
it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
Cyanogen's rom will be a true AOSP rom. It should (hopefully) be coming out soon.
i'm also looking forward to the aosp rom. i'm willing to sacrifice some of the htc specific stuff like hdmi out.
wasn't darchstar donated an evo so he could get this working?
timothydonohue said:
it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
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I guess im not the only user that thinks this is in correct because in the first page there is at least 2 posts that are in par with my type of "question" posts as you put it
and ive counted at least seven more.
So im pretty sure this actually is the "right" forum and if its not im sure a mod will move it.
timothydonohue said:
it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
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This is correct +1 and as far the OP question goes, it looks like Cyanogen Mod 6 will be the first true AOSP.
timothydonohue said:
it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
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I think you need to rephrase your words and not say "wrong forum", certainly it is not the wrong forum, but the wrong section. I believe this question belongs to the General section.
Here is a link of an AOSP ROM everyone here is expecting soon.
Nexus One Cyanogen Mod ROM Overview!
i know his rom is comming out. I was more inclined of asking why there hasnt been one yet. i got that question answered
but my second question (which wasnt answered) was
do we have everything we need or are we waiting on some htc nonsense because im looking at cookin my own rom
Thread moved to Q&A.
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i know his rom is comming out. I was more inclined of asking why there hasnt been one yet. i got that question answered
but my second question (which wasnt answered) was
do we have everything we need or are we waiting on some htc nonsense because im looking at cookin my own rom
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We have everything we need. However it takes some pretty impressive coding to make everything work. Dual cameras and WiMax are new to everyone. This is the only Android phone that has them, especially WiMax. The fact that Cyan got the cams working just proves his coding prowess.
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Sweet, my guess was that this belonged here, I reserved comments because I don't want to pretend like I'd be a good mod
Anywho, I am people other that myself are asking this question, I guess there are a ton of us eagerly awaiting an AOSP rom.
Here is my take on this:
The stock Android Source code does not have access to some of the hardware on the phone. Yes we haver kernel source, however, the stock Android software for 2.1 doesnt have:
1. Two Cameras
2. Wimax
3. HDMI
4. Kickstand notification?
You either have to run HTC's Sense or use a Froyo with some custom Android Apps (What Cyanogen is writing)
chuckhriczko said:
We have everything we need. However it takes some pretty impressive coding to make everything work. Dual cameras and WiMax are new to everyone. This is the only Android phone that has them, especially WiMax. The fact that Cyan got the cams working just proves his coding prowess.
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I tested your rom for a short time...a good place for anyone interested in messing around with a basic AOSP rom.
zonyl said:
Here is my take on this:
The stock Android Source code does not have access to some of the hardware on the phone. Yes we haver kernel source, however, the stock Android software for 2.1 doesnt have:
1. Two Cameras
2. Wimax
3. HDMI
4. Kickstand notification?
You either have to run HTC's Sense or use a Froyo with some custom Android Apps (What Cyanogen is writing)
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Answers my question perfectly
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[Q] What happened to Calkulin's, Fresh's and Damage Control's ROM developement

Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
ljohnson1981 said:
Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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I'm assuming you're taking over for them since you posted this in the Dev section? Please post up some of your work so far and the GPL information. Good luck!
If it starts with [Q], probably goes in Q&A, or ask in their respective threads.
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section
husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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I agree that people need to be a bit more user friendly around here, no need to get snarky. BUT this is a DEV only section and this type of question (even if it is about DEV work really doesn't belong here).
There is nothing wrong with ONE person trying to help the person but instructing them that this is not the right place for their post. That is not playing the role of a MOD, that is part of being in a community. If this type of thing wasn't a problem the MODS would not have made the 10 post requirement before you can even post here.
Honestly there hasn't been any new developments. In my mind as it stands EVO's are done. Unless Sprint/HTC release something new there is nothing left to develop. The ROMS are zipaligned, PNG Optimized, Battery scripted, etc. I have some work I could do one the graphics but ROM wise I don't see anything earth shattering on the horizon.
Damage Control i believe is dead for now (i haven't seen anything on another phone)
Fresh i believe flipz has just been busy and really his rom is working and works well and there havent been any major ground breaking updates that need to be addressed. since fresh is a non themed rom it is a little harder to constantly provide updates when there isnt much to change in the build itself.
Evio - see fresh for most of it.
A lot of the sense based roms that are updated constantly are themed roms which gives them a lot more to play with. they can tweak the look etc even when there arent any major new developmental releases. I am in no way saying this is all that is done and there is nothing wrong with it being done just explaining my belief on why some roms are updated much more often then others. With the Evo fast approaching the one year mark you will probably see much fewer major updates coming and much fewer major developments.
This is my personal opinion and is not fact. I base my opinions off what i have seen on the devs twitter streams and own sites. hopefully it provides more answers.
When all things sense die, you can always switch to aosp lol. Its updated with the latest and greatest. I prefer sense my self but as zone said; most sense roms are maxed out, there's nothing left to do to them.
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As soon as the System Dump/ROM leaks out for the Evo 3D, they will have something new to play with.
I never understood why people keep asking for updates to stable ROMs that are based on Sprint OTA releases, like Fresh and Myn's Twopointwo. I read both of those threads, and every couple pages, you get people asking about new versions or updates to complete, working, stable ROMs. What do people expect?
If you want new features like Sense 2.0 or Gingerbread, don't flash a ROM that is based on OTA updates.
i agree, i think the sense roms are at a standstill until an official 2.3/sense 2.0 build comes down the pipe from HTC/Sprint. (assuming the Evo gets sense 2.0/android 2.3)
i love calk's work, EViO is a great rom. i only switched because i fell in love with CM7
husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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+1 .........
Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
hopefully there enjoying life and not by a computer every night thinking about updates. But this goes to a deeper question that i think is starting to spark up is everybody tired of there evo's already ? U can flash so many roms until u flash out but at the end of the day a evo is still a evo
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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section
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I Don't know... so far a lot of the [ROMS] that I've seen are just re-skinned versions of everything else out there, shouldn't most of those go in the Themes and Apps section as well, if we are going to try and get technical ?
I wouldn't technically call half of these ROMS true "Development" but merely Themes, which there is another section for as well. But if you want to get technical:
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This does not actually lay any guidelines as to what is allowed (actually, this was a rather lazy post in regards to setting guidelines (hey, I can't watch people, I'm a Mod, report them if the entire community comes to a consensus as to what should not be here, we will leave it up to the teeming masses, I mean, it worked well enough for Russia after the bolshevik revolution right? Aren't teeming masses of people able to find out what is in the best interest of everyone else that is not them?), what constitutes strictly development, and what constitutes Q&A if it pertains to Development.
It was a valid question about development. People may or may not upgrade their phones and ditch Evo's based on a developer of ROMS as well.
Don't forget Vaelpak
If like myself, one were to prefer some of the Sense elements over the AOSP versions, but also like the obvious increase in performance that comes from the AOSP's lighter weight, don't forget the latest Vaelpak.
Sense ROM-based, but with most of Sense removed. I get my preferred Sense Dialer, VVM, etc, and thanks to Fancy Widget I get a Sense-like clock with more and better functionality. 4G, HDMI, everything works.
There is no perfect ROM, of course it all comes down to preference and opinion anyway. But if anyone is looking for something unique and extremely functional, this is a very interesting option. I flashed his 3.2 about a week ago just to check it out and have not had a reason to leave it...except to flash to the GB ROMs of course!
As was said above, until official gingerbread is out (which we heard was a yes).....don't worry, there will be continued stuff as most of us got screwed with sprint changing the premium upgrades. 2.2 is maxxed out.
Cooler than your EVO
ljohnson1981 said:
Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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LIFE gets in the way sometimes man Calk just had a new baby girl so that is WAY more important than spending all day and night on roms for people to just complain, Damageless was disrespected more than anybody i have ever seen on here sheesh if i was him i would never come back and give time, and Fresh's wife was having some health issues i believe so he had to take care of her.
guyver2077 said:
Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
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The EVO is getting 2.3 w/Sense, but not until it comes out on a new flagship phone (E3D). I wouldn't expect it until July or August.

[Q] recommended touchwiz rom

well, I got brave and rooted my S3, and was looking to go further by trying a rom.
This is my first smartphone, so I don't have a lot of experience with different models, but I like touchwiz, and enjoy S voice and search google via voice to text. Actually, there is not a lot about this phone that I don't like. That said, I always believe a product can be made better.
I read a post somewhere a few days ago where someone commented that they had tried a variety of roms, but ended up going back to a modified sammy rom because Cyanogen and AOKP roms removed all of the stuff that made his S3 special. He commented that it made it feel like a 2 year old Nexus. Not having tried any of these roms, I cannot vouch for the truth in this, but it makes sense, and I too want my S3 to be "special... plus"
Some of the things I'm looking for in a rom are
keeping s voice
a toggle mod
some debloating
Beats audio, or similar
I would like a translucent status bar (is that what is called?) .. the thing you pull down from the homescreen
Free GS3 might be an option, but its a T mobile port, and I'm not sure about it.
any recommendations are certainly welcome.
Thanks...
Re: [Q] ROM Suggestions
Welcome to android!
Before a mod shuts this down because these types of threads don't get to stay and your in the wrong section as well. I will tell your best bet is to read, read some more and then try some out. There a lot of great roms but your the only one who will know if its right for you.
Good luck!
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oldbbman said:
Welcome to android!
Before a mod shuts this down because these types of threads don't get to stay and your in the wrong section as well. I will tell your best bet is to read, read some more and then try some out. There a lot of great roms but your the only one who will know if its right for you.
Good luck!
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thanks. My bad, whats the right section?
noobs like me can't post in the developers forums
BTW, I've been reading, and reading and reading some more, but recommendations are always welcome.
I did run across a similar thread, but of course it was a general android question, not specific to At&t, which is what I have.
This is very simple if you want a reliable non bug all features working rom... just stay with stock... all other roms are not perfect, they will give you some but it will also lack on something, I have try them all and always come back to stock.
eortizr said:
This is very simple if you want a reliable non bug all features working rom... just stay with stock... all other roms are not perfect, they will give you some but it will also lack on something, I have try them all and always come back to stock.
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Thanks, I had considered that possibility, but thought I would ask.
Q&A Should be where questions go. I would also say there are many solid stable roms. Read, read and try as many as you want. All phones are not 100% the same and your apps and setups can effect how it runs.
Good luck
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There are multiple threads in this (General) section and the Q&A section. Please search and read those threads for opinions, options, etc. Moreover ROMs are a personal choice, and are subjective to user experience. I'd suggest making a nandroid backup, flash a ROM, if you don't like it, restore your backup and try another.
Thread Closed.
P.S. Welcome to Android and XDA.
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Battery life!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10m8gZKop9IPFhIsdMwjRxyXlpetCVwaemhNh27q8Pu8/viewform
just an example. 5 minutes in google docs. That will help me and other users. Is that really hard to make and attach to big main thread?
Stock is always best. I personally think the extra features in custom roms are worth the slightly less battery life.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
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Wow... Unless something is lost in translation, it sounds like you really aren't interested in what XDA-Developers is all about. While there are numerous knowledgeable folks here who will happily help others and answer questions, it's not a place to drop in and have people serve up just what you want to know on demand. If the answer to your question were truly a "cut and dried" affair, then you'd likely see some information in the Wiki listing "the best ROM / kernel combination for battery life", and all of the conversations and ROM / kernel experiments and tweaks relating to that topic would be moot. But that's simply not the case. "Best" will differ across users and configurations, depending on usage patterns, installed apps, strength of 3G / 4G / Wi-Fi signals throughout the user's day, etc. Whether or not you, personally, care about the feature sets that custom ROMs offer, most of the folks here do, in fact, care -- and that's why many of us are here. That's why the developers put in countless hours researching, developing, testing and tweaking their ROMs, kernels and utilities.
Finding "the best" will be a different search for each user, based on unique circumstances and interests. That's why it's so great that there are, in fact, so many choices here. But making the best use of the site requires that you be willing to read the discussions, do some searching, and then perhaps ask questions in various discussion threads that will help you find out what you hope to learn. If you're not willing to do that, and if you dismiss 90% of the development effort here as being pointless, I'd suggest that you probably won't find what you're looking for here.
Battery life is what it is on the Galaxy Nexus. I havent really seen THAT big of a difference with all the ROM/Kernel combos I have tried. Its the phone itself. If you have that big of a problem with it, I suggest getting an extended battery or a new phone.
You're right. You should take your questions to those forums. If you think any policies are going to change just because you complain about them you are clearly not the type of member XDA is intended for.
Jesus dude stay stock and quit wasting everyone's time with useless threads.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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Okay I just wasted my time for reading that....
hmmm..
What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
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Nobody tells you that you must try every ROM.
What's the difference of all the ROMs for Nexus:
- Another "ROM developer"
- Different features
- Different look
- Different experience
- Etc..
If you like to complain about the things then put even your thread to Q&A section!! -_-
I am using my modified STOCK Android ROM and battery life is great so stop complaining and use Android phone with stock Android OS or go to use iPhone with the same firmware which almost everyone iPhone user uses..
And also Battery life doesn't just depend of "Kernel", also many other things affects to battery life.
that was a difficult read. so i didn't
My suggestion go with a ROM that is pretty much stock AOSP, and not AOKP in your case. Stick with a ROM like KALO's that is just basically the AOSP Stock ROM with almost no mods, if you worried about battery life.
I mean we could tell you but we'd have to kill you and that's against the XDA rules.
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go buy a flip phone
First of all "castom" isn't even a word. It's CUSTOM. Second, it's not really a good idea for noobs to take it upon themselves to blast people like you just did. This is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Just because YOU think a ROM is useless doesn't make it so. And seriously, if a MOD thinks a thread needs to be closed, it's closed. Period. Again, just because YOU think it shouldn't be doesn't make it so. Finally, don't expect to be spoon fed here. It's not tolerated well, and "Tell me the best ROM" threads generally aren't either if I remember correctly. The best way to learn is to read read read. There is a wealth of info here. Most people figure out the best ROM for them by reading and testing.
Chill out and start educating yourself on what this forum is all about.
lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...MTV6NXJQUHFCMTF1bTZtYjc5MXc&usp=sharing#gid=0
sorry guys. Found that.
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Lola.. this dude is funny.. Blasting people because he don't know to get good battery life instead of learning and trying different things.. Cm10.1 m2 and lean kernel. 3.5 screen on time Is plenty for me. Don't blast devs hard work that they do for free just because your lazy to learn.
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Wow he really went on a rant there. This place is full of great information. I say go buy a flip phone or be ready for some trial and error. Every phone is different, even if it is the same model every phone is different. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. If you can spend a lot of time customizing then you can spend some time figuring out how to get better battery life.
3 to 4 hrs screen time for a phone that's got more CPU and ram than my first computer......not bad
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Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
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Sandman-007 said:
Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
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You're about a month late to the chastising.
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b1337 said:
go buy a flip phone
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Flip phones are pretty nifty these days I hear!
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I have a rooted GNEX with CM 10.1 installed.
My phone gets very hot on the back side when I use the internet. Is there a solution to this? Also the battery life is not as good as it was on ICS.
Thanks.

CyanogenMod 7 Project

Hi guys,
So for the past week I think I have at least wiped/flashed/Odin'd different ROMs for my new Captivate Glide at least a hundred times. I've finally settled on thegreatergood's LiteROM 0.9.0 and it's working great for me. Not only the one ROM though as I've had to find many workarounds for different things. Flashables/kernels/apks you name it. Although I have no regrets and I'm really proud of how It's like a beast in my pocket, I am quite bothered by one thing which is that the whole thing feels like a big piece of patchwork..
Coming from a HTC Desire Z running CM7 serving me loyally for many years, I miss that officiality (<-- oops, red snakes.. not sure that's a word. Whatever. Shakespeare made his own words too right? ) and the stability that CM7 offered.
I'm a humble man, and possibly carry the apologetic traits of a typical Canadian. Instead of whining and/or nagging some senior developer to hurry up on their ICS or JB development I've decided to build my own CM instead.
However some thought, I think the reason why the JB based experimental CM 10.1s for the Captivate Glide have been a difficult task is because it's probably quite a challenge to build something from something that's not currently very well understood, namely the JB. So I thought, why not just build I nice and stable ROM based off of GB and if it does well it could probably officiated as a CM7 port for the Captivate Glide.
I have a feeling that this is a very plausible task. But I have no way to do it alone.. I have zilch experience in development in anything, had to drop out of my C++ course and have been doing nothing but lurking and leeching since I started modding when I was eleven. All I have is a vision. If someone could point me in the right direction or even form a development team with me, I would be very grateful.
And if this goes well, I will have gained some long overdue experience
So.. Anyone?
P.S. I guess this goes in this forum too. But my phone gets real angry when I flash certain things onto it. The biggest issue currently is that it will freeze and crash (more specifically the screen will freeze and fade into white lines..) whenever I try to use ClockWorkMod Recovery.. I dunno if the crappy 1500 mAh China battery I got ripped off with is an issue but I'm waiting on an OEM one in the mail..
Post in general not development bub...
And were on cm 10. Why fall back?
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I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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hey bud im with you ... though I think CM9 would be better as ICS has been released, stable, and has a few more tweaks and features that CM7 didn't ... things like in JB where we have a transparent notification pull down, control over the dpi of certain apps etc.
First thing you should do is readup on the compile cm10 from source thread, get your feet wet there it'll get you all setup with a development system .. Linux is a must so I hope that you're savvy in the *nix shell or things will be antagonistic right off the start ...
I installed the CM9 recently and radio etc didn't work .. Guaranteed there is tonnes of information across all devices on xda-developers and even in general development threads.
Scroll through these forums, find the github links and learn how to setup your own, download the sources for the kernels from the other devs (theres a couple CM10.1s out there).
CM7 .. while I appreciate where you're coming from as i LOVED having CM7 on my Galaxy ACE - everything just worked... battery was great, it looked cool, and it was just off the stock enough to be unique and rub in iPhone users' faces
If I had the time I'd take it on with you .. chart your work and links that have helped you as you go along.
maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.
lorddavid said:
maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.
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CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight to CM7 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
Another one for CM9 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20844007
.... maybe I should just build a linux VM and give it a go in my spare time .... we're so starved for developers for our glides even amateur contributions can't hurt .... in the 2nd link the guy said it took him 11 months to learn how to mod for ICS from no experience so ..... depends on how much you want to commit to it ..
yohan4ws said:
CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
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yes, i know that, and i was thinking that a cm9 (because there is a ics fully working in the glide) can be a good option, but not sure
This doesn't belong here, please, some mod, move this to General. Thanks
chrisyjwai said:
I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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Flagged to be moved to general. If this turns into a dev thread, then you can flag to move it to the dev section, but you only post in the dev sections if you actually have a product or are actively working on something.
Your intentions seem great, but never wait for someone else to help you, otherwise it will never get done. No one is going to carry you through learning this.
There's a ton of guides out there on how to build, port, cherry pick CM commits, etc. etc. Go find them and start learning. Ask SPECIFIC questions if you have any.
No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc. There's a lot of steps in between. So go and get started.
gtmaster303 said:
No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc.
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That doesn't make any sense.... lots of people show up to college and say that, and then enroll in the courses to do that ..

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