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If any of you of you guys are like me you've been waiting for BlackBerry connect to work for the blueangel forever. I have downloaded the software and fiddled with it a million times, the fact of the matter is that it only works for Tmobile UK right now. The rest of us are screwed. But there is an alternative, microsoft has recently release pocket MSN, it works exactly like the blackberry web client, except that after the initial 19.99 fee it is completely FREE!!!!!!. Unlike other push email alternatives where although you might get a few months grace period they are pay services. Pocket MSN pushes your hotmail account directly to your phone, and no text messaging BS like activesync AUTD. its actual push email. You can either foward your email to hotmail, or have your hotmail account search you pop mail boxes. And plus since microsft makes the phones operating system and has access to the source codes, Pocket MSN works seamlessly with the phone. Now that I finish telling the benefits, the downsides is the fact that there is no alert sound when an email comes in, or at least I dont know how to set it up. Another downside is the fact the there is no way for it to push you coporate email, unless you foward your coporate email to hotmail, which is a security risk. Another downside is having to create a hotmail account, but then again you have to create a blackberry account when using blackberry web client. The last downside the I can think of is the 19.99 freaking fee!!!, I guess a one time payment is better the monthly payments that most companies charge. Tell me what you guys think, I think its worth though
^-- thanks for the infomation. This would be an asset so long as it isn't a spamware of some kind and as long as I don't get any spams from MSN.
Is there a email server script that would do the same thing if one owns there own unix server? I will research on this, but just in case someone out there knows the answer.
So what your telling me is that:
* Pocket MSN works with my companies Corporate eMail services
* Pocket MSN works with my companies iPager (Interactive Pager) service
* that my companies multi thousand dollar BES infrastructure can utilize Pocket MSN
* That As a message is delivered to the system you get a notification
* That as a message is delivered to a user I get a notification
* As the user reads the message I get a notification
* As the user deletes the message I get a notification
* That it is instant and ready for corporate usage
* That I can attach an intranet link (not InterNET) and the receiving party can then access that link over the PocketMSN network
Or are you telling me that you nor your company do not highly depend on these features..... because ours (Large telecom company) lives, breathes, and dies by these little devices.
Thanks for your advice on PocketMSN, however I WANT and Need Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC, regardless if you are happy with PocketMSN or not.
I hope all that use and depend on the blackberry devices will continue to borrow, test, and hack the software until one of us gets it working. That's what this board is for.
Raptor
Hmm, I don't think Pocket MSN is implying on changing the face of such technology. Some of us home users don't have the capital to run a service such as yours, nor do we even use your network. I am looking for a free altrenative that works correctly with no string attached. The key word is "alternatrive", NOT replacement.
Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
Raptor said:
Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
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I wasn't aware PocketMSN was pushware. Refuse to pay £20 for the software when it will be free with magneto devices.
Patience on BB - I have been using the latest version, and all indications are that it's mostly good.... as far as BB ever goes on a non-RIM device....
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Might not be BES but still great software
Hey Raptor, yeah ok I understand that if your going to use blackberry to the fullest extent, then pocket MSN or any alternative does not nearly match up. But alot of us only use the most fundamental features of blackberry email, and for that this software seems to be more then enough, as a matter of fact, for those of us who only use blackberry web client, I find Pocket MSN is just as good if not better, paying 20 bucks for the software really sucked especially for a cheap ass like me. But I am not paying any extra monthly fee. Which is good. So this software might not be suitable for your coporate "MEGA" company. But for blackberry Web Client users this software is a great substitute maybe a replacement, I am not sure why microsoft did not offer this for free. Usually when microsoft tries to bully other companies to the ground (Lotus 123, Netscape, Real Audio) they give it away.
Not as cheap as me... Whenever I need to check my Hotmail, I go to http://mobile.msn.com/pocketpc/ and read my Hotmail for free...
Hope the Pocket MSN pushed email feature comes with message notification. If not, it's no better than going to the link above...
For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!
For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!
Questions About Pocket MSN
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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davpel said:
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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Does it impact battery life, yes i guess it does. Because technically your leaving your gprs data connection on all the time. But if you compare it to checking your email every ten minutes then its way better. AS for audible alerts i have not been able to figure that out as of yet. And yes i am positive that there are no text messages, it is purely data based
To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
Thanks for the quick reply. One more question. Do you know whether you can specify a "reply to" address for replying to messages recieved on your device via Hotmail? The reason that I ask is that if I go this route, I will set up a Hotmail account and have it pull my mail from my normal email accounts via POP/IMAP, but when I reply by phone, I don't want the Hotmail address showing. I know that I can do this with the standard Pocket Outlook mailbox and with the autd/exchange solution.
If this works for me, I guess the crappy thing is that it will cost me about 40 bucks. 19 fo Pocket MSN, and then another 19 yearly for Hotmail Plus since, as far as I can tell, Microsoft now makes you get a Plus account if you want to be able to have your Hotmail account pull from POP/IMAP. Kind of crappy, if you ask me. Yahoo!'s free service includes POP/IMAP.
David
Couldn't you just set up a forward from your pop3 account to hotmail?
Yes, forwarding will work. But then if I hit "reply" to the message, it will send the reply to my POP account rather than the actual sender -- at least, that's what I assume will happen.
To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
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Obviously you do not understand.... with better communications programs we are much closer to curing caner and a host of other diseases....
hey guys, i'm thinking i'm gonna add the tzones (5.99) plan on my phone. from what i understand, i can play around with the settings and be able to access most websites. i have two questions:
1- can somebody please explain to me in a easy to understand manner how to change these settings?
2- would i be able to use msn messenger, aol IM, and google maps with this plan?
thanks guys
omar
i dont have the settings anymore, but they're in the wiki. with me it was shoot or miss if it was going to work. then one day it just stopped working, tried resetting everything, nothing. it works by setting up a proxy so if the app can't use proxies than it won't work. google maps, dash weather, etc. didn't work for me.
it's been a while since I used it, so it might have cahnged.
From what I've seen, the 5.99 web package (or whatever) works with most websites. I have yet to come across anything that I cannot access...
With T-Zones, there's really only one thing you can be sure of: It will give you access to the limited T-Zones service available via the WAP browser that pops up when you press the T-Zones button on your keypad.
Used to be pretty much anyone could plug in some proxy settings on a WM device and get full internet access, Messenger, Exchange, POP3, IE, all of it. Over the past year or so, T-Mobile has been modifying their systems to enforce the T-Zones level of service for those who have it.
You'll find many users claim to still have full internet access using some proxy settings -- they're lucky, though I suspect their access isn't all that 'full'.
You should search the forum, it's all been explained a zillion times over -- don't think you'll find it re-explained here.
UPDATE:
hey, i added the 5.99 tzones plan, and then once it started working, went to http://www.htcwiki.com/page/The+Dash+FAQ and did the settings that was mentioned on the website and....
everything works!! all websites, google maps, etc! the only exception is msn pocket, however, if i go to www.hotmail.com and sign in that way, it works! hopefully this continues to work, and thanks to everybody for your help!
omar
Yea, you should be able to get to any page, and you don't have to use the T-Zones wap browser to do so. I currently use Pocket Internet Explorer, Deepfish, Opera 8.65 for Windows Mobile (Beta). I have not run into a page I can't use. I even do my online banking with Wachovia on my Dash, it works!!!! The T-Zone plan using the proxy settings WILL let you do what you need on your Dash, trust me.
Hi guys, and great forum.
At the outset mods should feel free to push this is the appropriate forum.
I seem to have fallen in love with the xda orbit/P3300. I run 2 websites and am more and more often away from home these days that my trusty nokia N73 just aint cutting it for web access.
So I have looked about at something more mobile web access tailored and bumped into this. My questions to help me:
I'm currently with Vodafone, not due an upgrade til November. I could buy the phone sim free, unlocked. Having searched the forum I see that it should work when the Voda settings (wap, mms) are entered. Is this correct?
I hear that some folk have been caught out with hefty data charges because the phone always uses gprs constantly. Again, is this right?
This probably isn't suitable for this forum, but if data charges could be an issue, would it be better to go with someone like T-mobile that give unlimited access?
Finally, having read the manual, i'm a little confused with the messaging email set up. Are texts sent immediately when you tap send? Are mms saved until you next go "online" with wap? When i want to pick up emails, can i do as i do now, connect remotely via wap to my BT server and pick up on demand, or will it always automatically do that on connecting to wap.
My apologies for the questions, and hope one of you good folk can help me out.
Thanking you in advance
Mike
Hi MikI,
It doesn't matter what device you use, as long you have access to the wap and mms gatewats, so with you vodaphone sim you should be able to.
Some software once installed (weather apps, etc) can be configured to automatically download new updates and thus incur charges without you knowing it. The phone itself has nothing to do with that.
It's really up to you with what data plan suits you, if you constantly use gprs, then you should know that getting a flatrate plan is the best thing to do, again it depends on your usage.
Yes SMS messages are immediately sent when you tap send. For MMS you can configure it to either connect automatically and send your message immediately once you tap send or to wait once you go online and then send it.
Hope that helps, just my 2 cents.
Cheers.
If your main motivation is mobile web, I would look into getting a UMTS phone..GPRS might not do the trick for your needs.
Hello gang, and thanks for your replies - they are really helpful.
Web access is one of my motivations, but the main ones I have is being able to pick up my emails from the ISP (and going on web if they emails say I have to), and the organiser functions.
Web access is really restricted to things like google searches for numbers etc, if i had to do some serious web browsing it would only be to my sites and I would hope few and far in between.
Now the choice between sim free, or a new contract
Thanks all again, and if anyone can suggest anything i may not be considering or missing about this handset I'd be most grateful.
Call me crazy, but I decided to install the new Yahoo Go! 2.0 (beta) on my device (just to see if it is as crappy as the old version). The Yahoo website recognized that I was running WM6 ... nice ... I have (for those who care) Sleuth 3.1 installed at the moment.
So, far, it is running nicely. I like getting my yahoo mail on my 8525 without having to sign up for any special yahoo plan. Time will tell whether there are memory leaks.
For those in the United States, you can download from http://us.get.go.yahoo.com on your PDA ... or if you prefer, the cab file I downloaded is below. [there presumably is another link for other countries]
For others who try this out, we can use this thread to compare notes.
I was hoping the holdup was a new messenger... bah.
You know, the "push" side of things doesn't seem to be working for my Yahoo Mail... it says in settings it has it, but it's not pushing anything...
i know shame about the push
just out of interest which do people prefer, live search or yahoo go?
they're both very similar
Live Search doesn't have Maps.. .. that's what I like about Yahoo Go! .. that and it seems to be device specific.
hey same here Push is not wokring !!!!!
I wish there was some way to select and delete multiple emails .. anyone figure that out? Or even just to scroll through emails easily. The mail interface, in general, seems to suck.
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I was hoping the holdup was a new messenger... bah.
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same thing i said... no messenger... yahoo sucks ass. i think charging for im is dispicable. once you've got a net plan it should be free. i dont care if they put ads on it. they're so greedy they make deals with the carriers to milk us each message. and that forces you to buy a text plan.
thats why google will always be ahead of yahoo. google understands that you can make just as much, if not more money in ads and give away products free as if you would try to milk customers.
in conclusion: yahoo go with no messenger.... they lost!
on the brighter side, its just beta so maybe the official version will have it.
aameerp said:
i know shame about the push
just out of interest which do people prefer, live search or yahoo go?
they're both very similar
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i love the go gui. yet the live gui is more to the point and simplistic, and that can be to the user's advantage.
Yeah, the Go GUI is totally sweet actually. Very easy to navigate. Now, I gotta convince my buddies at google to make something like this.....<wink>
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Live Search doesn't have Maps.. .. that's what I like about Yahoo Go! .. that and it seems to be device specific.
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Wrong. I don't know what you're talking about because Live Search has both Road and Aerial maps...
I've been playing with the new Go 2.0 today... mostly unimpressed. It runs slow and I've had to re install it once already.
The only cool thing I've found about it so far is the direct Flickr uploading ability. That is cool, everything else is sub-par.
Installed the new Go 2.0 beta today with no problems after reading this thread. I'll be playing with it the next few days. So far the GUI looks nice, but runs slow on my Edge connection.
It works pretty nice as an RSS Reader as well. One thing I really liked about the old Yahoo Go, is as soon as you took a picture, it would upload it to your yahoo photos if you wanted it to. Now with the Flikr deal, it doesn't do that... You have to go into the GUI and pick pictures to upload. Now you can manage the pictures better though... I have mixed feelings about that one.
Just had to uninstall yahoo Go because my phone kept freezing up..
Why can't I get Yahoo Go to work? My connection is set to Media net. I can't get Yahoo Go to connect, Google Maps to connect, Live Search to connect. Before I upgraded to WM6 I could get 3rd party apps to run fine.
I tried switching to my isp instead but when I switch to it, I get a message that 'the answering modem has disconnected....'
Can anyone help me?
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Why can't I get Yahoo Go to work? My connection is set to Media net. I can't get Yahoo Go to connect, Google Maps to connect, Live Search to connect. Before I upgraded to WM6 I could get 3rd party apps to run fine.
I tried switching to my isp instead but when I switch to it, I get a message that 'the answering modem has disconnected....'
Can anyone help me?
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If you have not put in your operator settings in, it will not connect because the settings are blank.
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Just had to uninstall yahoo Go because my phone kept freezing up..
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same here. Conclusion: NOT very impressive
Is a memory sucker too.
Prior to install would have 18-19mb of RAM avail.
After install was down to 12-14mb.
Now after uninstall back to normal.
With most email going through my exchange server and google maps and live-search, I see no need for more bloatware.
Jim
hear hear!
Oh well.
I had been waiting for this software for a while now. I can't believe they didn't include IM!
Hey!
First post on the forums, this seems like a place where i might find the information i require regarding this, we will see.
Im looking for an MSN messenger application that wont disconnect my other clients that are logged into the same account. (My htpc, gamer pc and work pc are all running MSN simultaneously)
I have tried a few from the Market and they all log out my computer clients when i start them.
The reason i want this is because im only using wifi on my Desire, so whenever i move out of wifi coverage i loose my connection and suddenly im not available on MSN. I know there is offline messaging etc but thats another story..
Thanks for reading and please do let me know if there is any MSN app on market that will let me do this!
As far as I know, even advanced desktop unofficial clients as Pidgin doesn't support this feature, official msn for winMO also disconnects you.
This is only supported by official Microsoft desktop products, you won't find elsewhere than on XP/Vista/7/2008-server
I'd pay some good money for such feature.
Oh bugger
I guess this is one secret MS wont let go. Would be nice if others could use this functionality also tho..