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[Q] cant access recovery after root with unrevoked 3.21

Hey guys and gals,
This is my first post and i need some help. Here's the story.
I rooted my phone a few weeks ago, everything went stunningly easy, and worked great. Clockworkmod recovery was installed (by unrevoked) at this time. While driving home I broke my phone's screen and had to get a replacement phone. Asurion had a phone to me within 18 hours (my word they're fast). I slapped the 16GB SD card from my first phone in and I was off and running.
So I have my new phone with my original 16GB SD card and set it up normally again. I wanted to wait a bit and get it set prior to rooting again. Tonight I rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.21 as I did before. It went much faster than before. I now have S-Off but clockworkmod recovery is not on my hboot screen and recovery mode doesn't work at all. Just a black screen for about 15 seconds before loading into the OS.
Have I screwed up a one click root? I've tried a few things.
I used droid-life as a guide to help me root.
Phone Stats:
Droid Incredible
Asurion replacement
OS 2.2
radio 2.15.00.07.28
kernel 2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1
build 3.21.605.1 CL231334 release-keys
Although clockworkmod recovery isn't in Hboot the reflash tool still says "Recovery Image: ClockworkMod Recovery" on the bottom. I have tried renaming the clockworkmod folder on the SD card to see if it would create a new one, or boot into clockworkmod recovery after realizing the folder is not there.
I have also tried formatting my SD card and running the reflash tool again. Again no dice, no recovery mode.
I have tried unrevoked 3.21 after every change.
What have I done? what do I do? any suggestions?
Thanks for anybody and everybody's input. I appreciate it. I would like to start flashing roms but really dont want to mess with it if I dont have a recovery option.
-MOJO

Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Try redownloading unrevoked and run it again. Do you have root and Superuser app at least? If so, try downloading and running ROM Manager and tell it to flash Clockwork again. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery. And for the record, which screen do you have?

I wish I knew
PonsAsinorem said:
And for the record, which screen do you have?
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thanks for the quick reply I will try that. Yes I have root and the superuser app.
I dont know how to tell which screen I have, but I was wondering the same thing. BoyGeniusReport says its incredibly hard to tell the difference and I haven't found were it says SLED vs AMOLED

Grrrr
PonsAsinorem said:
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery.
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Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?

RandomMOJO said:
Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
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It's an alternate recovery. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758874
It's also the second to the last option in ROM Manager. Flash Alternate Recovery: RA_GNM Recovery v1.7.6
I actually like that one better. It was able to format my SD card correctly. I just miss the integration with ROM Manager.

Phew... It worked.
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?

RandomMOJO said:
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
Btw. Hboot only shows recovery, not clockwork recovery. Did you ever try selecting recovery from hboot?

silverxbv2 said:
Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?

RandomMOJO said:
and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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Uncommon sense has some of it removed. Some of it you can remove yourself. It's the only rom I've donated to and had on my phone more than two days.
Just be careful if removing stuff. Some of it has other dependencies. There are guides on how to remove things safely without breaking other functionality.

Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.

RandomMOJO said:
and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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I used to use Virtuous 3.0.1, but I've switched over to Redemption ROM 2.0.5
silverxbv2 said:
Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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It is. In the main menu, just like Clockwork

So I definitely have recovery with the amon_RA 1.7.6 alternative recovery with the ROM manager. but from what I have read I can no longer use ROM manager to flash.
Now I have been searching for information/instructions on how to use AMON_RA but have come up short, at least recently written stuff. I can find a ton of information about clockworkmod which I assume is because of Unrevoked 3.21.
PonsAsinorem as you said you miss the integration of ROM manager. I really want to use ROM manager.
I read somewhere in XDA that people were having trouble using clockworkmod and ROM manager and it could be because of a corrupted cache. there were some LIMITED instructions about using ADB to fix it but I wasn't completely understanding them.
I think my problem is spawning from using my old SD card and maybe a corrupted cache. I have made a back up using Amon_RA (actually two).
Does anyone think that completely formatting my SD card (after moving my backups to my MAC) and factory restoring my phone. then reflashed using unrevoked 3.21, or reflashed clockworkmod recovery using rom manager would work to solve my problem with clockworkmod recovery?
I would have backups if it didn't work. I would just have to restore the Amon_RA backup if I screwed anything up or wanted my SD card back... Right?
Thanks for all the help so far.
MOJO

Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460

dirtpan said:
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
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Dirtpan. you're a lifesaver thanks for pointing me at this. saved clockwork for me. All this time, its because I have the new SLCD screen as opposed to the AMOLED screen.
For the record, my wife has an AMOLED screen and I an SLCD. I can see no discernible difference.
Thanks again everybody for the help.
MOJO

Roms wont flash on Clockwork recovery

ok i have a MAJOR problem. im kind of a noob at this stuff so im still learning. i was messing in my system files trying different phone.apk. i think i may have deleted something essential. when i turn my phone on it doesnt get past the boot animation. my phone was rooted with unrevoked 3. but everytime i try to install a new rom using clock work recovery, it gets to the part where it "opens update pakage" and just stops and goes back to the first menu screen of clockwork. i dont have a nandroid backup either so i cant even restore.

Did you wipe everything before flashing?
Which rom did you try flashing?

yes i wiped everything. i tried multiple roms like cm 6, and stock. none worked. also. everytime i try to load up the pc36img.zip nothing happens it says "no image or wrong image"

You should try using Amon_RA instead. Just flash it using ROM Manager. Good Luck.

is it possible for me to change to amon? im not able to get past my boot screen on my phone, so if it requires me to turn my phone completely to use it, then i cant. i dont really know much about amon.

Search for the Amon_RA thread. If you downgraded your HBOOT, you can flash from Fastboot. If not, you can try an RUU.

drmacinyasha said:
Search for the Amon_RA thread. If you downgraded your HBOOT, you can flash from Fastboot. If not, you can try an RUU.
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. I'm using ROM Manager with ClockworkMod, and every attempt leads to the screen flashing code for a few moments, and going right into the ClockworkMod Recovery main menu. it wont let me flash ANYTHING period. I have HBOOT-0.97. i dont know what can be the problem. and Amon RA is too complicated for me to understand right now cuz im still a noob. :-(

[Q] Please help, weird Desire, dont work with any custom ROM !

Maybe you think im just too stupid or whatever, but im not i know how to root, to debrand, to wipe and so on. Im using a PVT4 desire which was vodafone branded (2.33.161...) with hboot 0.93. I downgraded and rooted it sucessfully and have (2.29.405.5) everything works fine. If i want to flash any custom rom, sense or sense hd (using amonra 2.0.0) ..everything works until standby ..on nearly each standby the phone freezes or hangs up or whatever ..the only thing that helps , is pulling out the battery and insert it again. So not any custom rom works for me and i hate it. i love the htc sense on hd roms and i really like some themes, but i cant really use it please anybody could try to help me why this happens. i really did nothin wrong for partition i used gparted like described mostly and in the end i set my phone s off (cuz i thaught this maybe would help) of course sucessfully. i tried diffrent ext partitions, i tried another battery, i tried another sdcard, i stopped the automatic email refresh ...,i tried app2sd+ and data2sd, i actually did nothin and let the rom the way it was ...but again it freezes on standby (not the first, not every, but the most of a day) ... my boyfriend has the same phone, also with pvt4 ...and for him everything works great without any issues. so please anybody help to fix this or at first find out why that happens
greetings

FlyGirly said:
Maybe you think im just too stupid or whatever, but im not i know how to root, to debrand, to wipe and so on. Im using a PVT4 desire which was vodafone branded (2.33.161...) with hboot 0.93. I downgraded and rooted it sucessfully and have (2.29.405.5) everything works fine. If i want to flash any custom rom, sense or sense hd (using amonra 2.0.0) ..everything works until standby ..on nearly each standby the phone freezes or hangs up or whatever ..the only thing that helps , is pulling out the battery and insert it again. So not any custom rom works for me and i hate it. i love the htc sense on hd roms and i really like some themes, but i cant really use it please anybody could try to help me why this happens. i really did nothin wrong for partition i used gparted like described mostly and in the end i set my phone s off (cuz i thaught this maybe would help) of course sucessfully. i tried diffrent ext partitions, i tried another battery, i tried another sdcard, i stopped the automatic email refresh ...,i tried app2sd+ and data2sd, i actually did nothin and let the rom the way it was ...but again it freezes on standby (not the first, not every, but the most of a day) ... my boyfriend has the same phone, also with pvt4 ...and for him everything works great without any issues. so please anybody help to fix this or at first find out why that happens
greetings
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Have you tried flashing a ROM using CWM recovery?

No i didnt. Could that be the reason for this problem ? I used amonra because cwm could not flash zip files as far as i know ?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

i had a similar problem with my g/f's phone, had been rooted for 6 months, had several custom roms, ( though she only likes sense roms ) i did an update, and it just kept freezing, so i tried several other sense roms, and they all kept freezing, no matter how many full wipes i did, they would just freeze.
so i installed a stock android rom, then from the stock android rom, flashed the sense rom, it worked after that, i duno why it did, i just know it worked for me, duno if it helps but might be worth a try.
Also i use CWM too.

Amon Ra Latest
Is this the version of Amon Ra you use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9447821&postcount=152

mintvilla said:
i had a similar problem with my g/f's phone, had been rooted for 6 months, had several custom roms, ( though she only likes sense roms ) i did an update, and it just kept freezing, so i tried several other sense roms, and they all kept freezing, no matter how many full wipes i did, they would just freeze.
so i installed a stock android rom, then from the stock android rom, flashed the sense rom, it worked after that, i duno why it did, i just know it worked for me, duno if it helps but might be worth a try.
Also i use CWM too.
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i dont really understand that stock rom part ...at downgrading i used the pb99img (2.29.405.5) from shipped .like it was told on some german site cuz i normally got an radio_V2 fail pu at the image loading on hboot ...with that there were no failures..so i guess this is my "base" that i rooted and with that i did everything else.. do u mean i should install a custom stock rom !? or maybe give me an example please

papadcha said:
Is this the version of Amon Ra you use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9447821&postcount=152
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yes thats it

FlyGirly said:
No i didnt. Could that be the reason for this problem ? I used amonra because cwm could not flash zip files as far as i know ?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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CWM flashes zip files with no problem. Just use an older version like 2.5.1.8 or something.

ShirazSuleman said:
CWM flashes zip files with no problem. Just use an older version like 2.5.1.8 or something.
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ok i will try this out ..but i need to know ..could the nand backup i did with amonra be restored with cwm !?

FlyGirly said:
ok i will try this out ..but i need to know ..could the nand backup i did with amonra be restored with cwm !?
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Don't think so.

FlyGirly said:
ok i will try this out ..but i need to know ..could the nand backup i did with amonra be restored with cwm !?
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nope, it definitely won't work. if you wanna try cwm, v2.5.0.7 is the best and most rock solid. is your phone s-offed?

Yes i have s off ..the easiest way to get clockwork in my opinion is using s off again and install it (can i do this or does that some damage to my phone ?) I read that v2.5.1.8 is suporting pvt4 desires. So i guess thats the best ?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

oops my bad. didn't notice the pvt4 part. you can just download the android sdk and use the fastboot command or you can use android flasher which has a simple straight forward gui.

could i also use unrevoked !? and use instead the ra desire 2.0.0 img the cwm img !? i like using things i already know instead of new stuff ..and im not so good at fastboot commands ...and i cant find the cwm 2.5.1.8 from alpharev

FlyGirly said:
could i also use unrevoked !? and use instead the ra desire 2.0.0 img the cwm img !? i like using things i already know instead of new stuff ..and im not so good at fastboot commands ...and i cant find the cwm 2.5.1.8 from alpharev
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flashing with unrevoked can screw up your superuser app. ra 2.0.0 doesn't backup the whole ext partition only app if i recall correctly. i'm not sure if ra supports pvt4. couldn't find any mention of it in the thread's first post.
the alpharev cwm is here

MrDevil said:
flashing with unrevoked can screw up your superuser app. ra 2.0.0 doesn't backup the whole ext partition only app if i recall correctly. i'm not sure if ra supports pvt4. couldn't find any mention of it in the thread's first post.
the alpharev cwm is here
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i guess i expressed myself wrong ..i have ra desire 2.0.0 ..and i guess it works ...i meant that img i flashed by getting root with unrevoked ... my question was if i easily could flash the cwm image with unrevoked ....but in the meantime i read that a rooted phone cant be rooted again ..so nevermind

FlyGirly said:
i guess i expressed myself wrong ..i have ra desire 2.0.0 ..and i guess it works ...i meant that img i flashed by getting root with unrevoked ... my question was if i easily could flash the cwm image with unrevoked ....but in the meantime i read that a rooted phone cant be rooted again ..so nevermind
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yes u can flash it with unrevoked. just mentioning that it screws up your superuser app.

after searching the whole time ..the alpharev version ..i finally saw that u already posted
using unrevoked worked fine dont care about superuser dont have it atm... trying an custom rom now ...hope my issue will have an end

Just my 2 cents... AFAIK for PVT4 desires AmonRA is recommended, cause CWM has issues. At least that's what I read about PVT4 (earsize 40000).

Hi guys, i only got my desire yesterday (bye bye cliq/dext at last) and can confirm what nagypapi is saying as i have a uk desire pvt-4 with 40000 errorsize and CWM definately doesn't work, i had a small problem where unrevoked 3.32 wouldn't properly install amonRA or CWM, in the end i had to use unrevoked 3.21 and i'm now running ReflexTSenseHD 1.8 Sense DHD 2.2 FRF91 A2SD+ OC'd to 1113Mhz. Have tried flashing a lot of the roms available and not all of them seem to work for me. CyanogenMOD7 and Oxygen v2.0 RC7 get to the setup screen and then go into an endless bootloop, whilst DeFroST 6.1a, RCMixHD v3.0 and Amethyst RC7 won't load past the htc splash screen. I have H BOOT S-ON still as i'm not entirely confident at attempting the AlphaRev 1.8 method just yet, could this be the cause?
Thanks in advance for any replies, kingears

Q Ginger Villain 'Villain Setup' recovery image download

Hi there. Im one of those lucky people with a PVT4 4000 Desire, meaning to Root my phone i needed a very specific combination of Unrevoked 3.21 and Amon ra 2.0.1 to work properly. Clockwork mod doesnt work if you use it right away, as i learned the hard way.
With Amon ra, its working perfectly, and i can backup, restore and install ROMs fine.
On the Gingervillain 'Villain Setup' whenever i try to install an item, it pops up that it needs to download a recovery image first.
To me, this seems odd, as i already have one installed, but my question is, which image will it download? Will it downoad clockwork mod? and then i'll end up having flash the latest RUU to recover my phone as the clockwork recovery wont work?
I just dont want to mess things up again....
Many thanks

cant unroot evo. could use some help.

i'm using an Evo for my work phone. It took a week to get it active and my number ported. i put a custom rom on it and i was too dumb to remember to make a nandroid backup. i need to update my data profile for the line to be active and i cannot do it from my current rom.
my bootloader shows "S-on"
i rooted with unrevoked 3.
im on a mac so using htc sync may be out of the question.
i tried using the PC36img.zip and i got an error message during one of the steps and it wouldnt revert me back to stock. i tried the steps on this page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
and i get the error message "main version is older! Update fail!"
im quite familiar with android, rooting, flashing, etc but i have never had to revert back to stock (as i see it this is the only way to activate this phone through the "update profile" option under settings).
anybody have any help here? i need this phone first thing in the morning for work and if i cant make any calls im going to be screwed.

If you're rooted, you should be s-off. You should be able to flash a sense rom and update your PRL from there. Please go to the bootloader and tell me what it says so I can know where to go next.

supersonic evt3 ship s-on
hboot-2.10.0001
microp-041f
touch panel-atmel224_16ab
radio-2.15.00.11.19
oct 15 2010 12:07:00
is what my bootloader says
i flashed a rom with gingerbread sense on it and that didnt have the option to update my profile to activate the phone.
i can get back into that rom but nothing else.

You do NOT need to unroot for that. Download the STAND ALONE update here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
Put that on you zip card and flash it like you would any ROM (Backup your current ROM and apps if you want it). From that ROM you will be able to update your PRL and Profile.
Almost any other Sense ROM will work (NOT Sense 2.0).

i just downloaded and tried to flash "Supersonic_1.32.651.1_rooted.zip" and i got this message...
"amend script is no longer supported....installation aborted". i found the link to that rom on the official wiki as stock rom #7.
@jstalford im downloading the rom you posted now. i will let you know how it turns out. thank you.

[email protected] said:
supersonic evt3 ship s-on
hboot-2.10.0001
microp-041f
touch panel-atmel224_16ab
radio-2.15.00.11.19
oct 15 2010 12:07:00
is what my bootloader says
i flashed a rom with gingerbread sense on it and that didnt have the option to update my profile to activate the phone.
i can get back into that rom but nothing else.
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As the user above said, you can flash that, and update you profile. You can update your profile on any sense rom. You can't do it on AOSP roms [CM7, ect] and sense 2.0.

I'm assuming you're using Clockwork Recovery? It will work if you downgrade Clockwork to v2.5 or if you switch to Amon Ra 2.3:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...yqVNldg7xCe1Yw6Ag&sig2=Z9jpQluoHqVTG0Akn9AhKw

[email protected] said:
i just downloaded and tried to flash "Supersonic_1.32.651.1_rooted.zip" and i got this message...
"amend script is no longer supported....installation aborted". i found the link to that rom on the official wiki as stock rom #7.
@jstalford im downloading the rom you posted now. i will let you know how it turns out. thank you.
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You got that message because you're on clockwork 3.0+ and it only supports edify scripting, and you flashed an amend scripting file [not supported]. To fix: flash an older version of clockwork, or switch to amon_ra 2.3; I'll be floating by as well.

jstalford said:
You do NOT need to unroot for that. Download the STAND ALONE update here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
Put that on you zip card and flash it like you would any ROM (Backup your current ROM and apps if you want it). From that ROM you will be able to update your PRL and Profile.
Almost any other Sense ROM will work (NOT Sense 2.0).
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tried this and got the error message "E: cant open /sdcard/SL_3.70.651.1_02.25.11.zip (bad) installation aborted.

Bad download, try downloading again. If you downloaded from your phone, try it from a comp.
Or flash Amon Ra Recovery and the first ROM you downloaded.
This is the file download for Amon RA:
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=PC36IMG.zip
Here are the instructions from the thread I linked:
Place PC36IMG.zip on the root of your sd card.
Boot the phone into the bootloader by powering the phone down, then press the power and the volume down buttons at the same time.
Once the phone boots into the bootloader the phone will automatically recognize the zip file. It will ask if you would like to update, select yes and let it do it's thing and you will be good to go

ill try redownloading sprint lover's stand alone rom. i tried loading pc36img.zip onto my sd card and booting into the boot loader and it says "checking" the blue bar on the upper right side fills up and it takes me back to the main bootloader screen. i also tried downgrading clockwork mod to the older version. the clockword mod app tells me it was successful but when i boot into my rcovery image its still the most recent one.
if all i need is a standard sense rom, does anyone have any others that will work with the newest clockwork mod? that might be the easiest way for me to go about this.

i downloaded sprint lover's rom again. this time i used one of the mirrors. placed it on my sd card. flashed again. flash was successful but got stuck in a boot loop. im going to head back into my recovery image and make sure i re-wipe everything just incase thats the issue...

Sounds like a good plan. Let us know what happens.

aaaaaand were up and running! i flashed and wiped so many times i must have forgotten to wipe again before that test run. the line is active and the rom is running smooth. thanks to everyone for the help.
my last question? if i flash any other roms down the road from tonight, i dont need to worry about updating my profile or anything correct? from what i've read thats only necessary when activating the line or performing manual updates? this is my first sprint android device ive been modding and tweaking tmobile android phones since the G1 and im still getting used to the changes!
thanks again everyone!

Glad you got it working. And occasionally, the PRL will get updated. Like now its 60677, next it'll be 60678...you'll see lots of threads on it. Then you would be on a sense rom, update, and do ONLY the profile update. Never accept an OTA while rooted...bad things will happen. If you're not on a sense rom [CM7 for example], you'd have to backup that rom, flash a sense rom, update, then flash back. I use CM7, and keep a backup on myn's 2.2 [sense] just for that purpose only, and takes all but 5 minutes.