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So.... following Mikey1022's thread crusade, I'm almost hesitant to post this here, but I feel like I'm going to get the most accurate answer from the people in this forum vs general...
On Cyanogens site, I found this for Battery Recalibration:
Battery recalibration
If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:
1. Charge the phone to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)
2. Boot to recovery mode and go to console (or adb shell) and type:
mount -a
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
NOTE: Newer Amon_Ra recoveries have an option to delete the battery stats, do this in place of the console commands above.
NOTE: To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the phone immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for CM to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the phone, go ahead and pull the charger and continue with this troubleshooter.
1. Do not charge the phone until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off.
2. Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
SO I'm at work, and don't have the option to check this, but unlike "hardware" battery calibration I'm mostly curious about removing the batterystats.bin
Would it help us with our battery woes, or do ours go deeper? For some reason, I noticed that mine's been draining a LOT faster in the past month or so then before...
Any thought?
This belongs in the general area?
I really don't think there's a magic forumula for these LIPO batteries. Unless you have a bad battery, you like numerous others need to join the battery 12 step program. I've already been through it. "Hello, my name is Sean and I'm obsessed with my battery life."
Long story short, just keep charge the battery when it gets low. If you work near an outlet or computer, and sleep near one - it's quite easy to keep the battery up throughout the day.
FYI, I've read up on this a bit regarding laptop batteries. It has nothing to do with the actual battery life or the "memory effect" (these batteries don't have a memory effect). It has to do with the OS's interpretation of the battery's performance and how it is reported to the user. So you're really recalibrating Android, not the physical battery. As far as I've read, this only "needs" to be done once in a great while, once a year maybe. Or if you notice something really odd with the battery level reporting.
I did this this morning as well since my phone was fully charged and ready to try it. Not had any hugely bad side effects from the phone and new battery (1750), but we will see if this changes anything.
wraithdu said:
FYI, I've read up on this a bit regarding laptop batteries. It has nothing to do with the actual battery life or the "memory effect" (these batteries don't have a memory effect). It has to do with the OS's interpretation of the battery's performance and how it is reported to the user. So you're really recalibrating Android, not the physical battery. As far as I've read, this only "needs" to be done once in a great while, once a year maybe. Or if you notice something really odd with the battery level reporting.
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Well, actually, that's why I put it in the development forum. These instructions are telling us to remove things from the system. Also on that note, my battery went from being at 30% full by 10pm (fully charged in the morning) to 30% full by 3pm (YES, 3) so something is definitely wrong, not just "I am obsessed with my battery life". Mind you, I'm at work until 2, so my phone drains to 30% on IDLE, with screen off. I was thinking maybe Android is misinterpreting something? I removed all programs that I thought might be causing this, turned off wifi, bt, gps, still no go. Maybe bad battery?
What I'm thinking this may help with is the fully charged issue the incredible has. I wouldn't follow the above instructions exactly however. Let me explain.
If you've ever noticed, the OS doesn't report "fully charged" correctly. Charge your battery to full (where both the green light comes on AND the "about phone" battery status says "Full". Now shut your phone off, you'll notice your light turns orange again, and will charge for about 30 minutes, sometimes more depending on how far off the battery is. If you turn on your phone after this, you'll notice you stay at 100% for quite some time. This is the case with a lot of incredibles from what I've seen... It probably has to do with the calibration notated above.
I would say do the calibration noted above, however, charge it the way I just noted (charge to full, shut the phone off, let it finish charging to full...). Then follow the rest of the steps immediately following. Might make a difference.
EDIT: this is probably even more true for the 1750mAh battery.
calibration and such has been discussed but not under its own name on page 3 i explain abit about the lithim ion battery vs nickel cadium.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695472
junjlo said:
calibration and such has been discussed but not under its own name on page 3 i explain abit about the lithim ion battery vs nickel cadium.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695472
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I was witness to that thread, and yes, you are correct, Lithium Ion batteries do not need to be conditioned, it is useless... However, we are not talking of conditioning, we are talking of proper reporting of battery life through the OS, which IS how Lithium Ion memory works. This is not saying to Cycle your battery 3 times to "condition" it to full potential. It is stating that the OS is not properly calibrated to report the proper life of the battery. If the OS cuts the charging of a Lithium Ion battery because it "thinks" it is at 100% charge, while the battery itself is at 80% (just a random example), then your battery life is going to appear to be shorter than it should. The example posted above would theoretically reset the OS so that when it says the battery is at 100%, it indeed is at 100%, preventing it from cutting a charge before it should. See my post previous post if you are confused. "Conditioning" is an entirely different animal, in which you "train" the batteries memory (in Nickel cad batteries) before utilizing your battery in normal charging operations. Lithium Ion does not have this memory, making "Conditioning" useless.
Moral to the Story here is to fully charge your phone when its off and you don't have to deal with any of these work arounds. Am I right?
buy a second battery and an external charger. I do this with every phone and I always seam to get battery life that is on the high side of what people report
Thank you for correcting that was bit early in the morning thought it was same question.
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I'm trying this and I've seen an improvement already on the stock battery. Been off charge for 8hrs and 13 mins and is still at 70% charge. Figures it holds a charge when you want to run it down!
jermaine151 said:
I'm trying this and I've seen an improvement already on the stock battery. Been off charge for 8hrs and 13 mins and is still at 70% charge. Figures it holds a charge when you want to run it down!
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What, exactly, are you trying that's giving the improvement? The OP's suggestion of booting into recovery and deleting battery stats, or the other common suggestion of turning phone off for the remainder of the charge? 70% after over 8 hours is FAR better than I'm seeing, and I'd like to see the same results.
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What, exactly, are you trying that's giving the improvement? The OP's suggestion of booting into recovery and deleting battery stats, or the other common suggestion of turning phone off for the remainder of the charge? 70% after over 8 hours is FAR better than I'm seeing, and I'd like to see the same results.
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I charged with the phone off, then went into recovery and deleted the battery stats file. Now I'm trying to discharge it completely.
jermaine151 said:
I charged with the phone off, then went into recovery and deleted the battery stats file. Now I'm trying to discharge it completely.
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I am doing the same. Will follow up with results in a few days.
alexdw369 said:
What, exactly, are you trying that's giving the improvement? The OP's suggestion of booting into recovery and deleting battery stats, or the other common suggestion of turning phone off for the remainder of the charge? 70% after over 8 hours is FAR better than I'm seeing, and I'd like to see the same results.
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That's awesome! That's great battery life. I might have to try this.
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EM30996 said:
That's awesome! That's great battery life. I might have to try this.
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Trying it myself tonight. Will post results tomorrow.
I'm trying it to. I will post results.
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Just tried this method, fully charging the phone when it's off then wiping the battery stats. Hoping it'll fix the annoying problem that the battery doesn't fully charge when the phone is on, although I'm not sure if it even can be fixed -- does anyone know?
I'll update if I remember next time I charge it.
Giving a try
Hey guys. I am also giving this a try today.
I just completely charged my battery last night with it off. This morning I unplugged the charger (while the phone was still off) and plugged back in to make sure that the battery was fully charged. The green light turned orange for a couple of minutes and back to green so I proceeded to boot to recovery and removed the battery file. I am also running a Seidio 1750mah.
I am now up and running. I will post later this afternoon to let you know how it's going.
If this fixes the weird battery bug where the Incredible doesn't charge fully, I will kiss the OP. Seriously.
Hey what's up. I got this G2 with the latest cm7, which is build number 21 and the battery life is horrible. Like 8 hours with an hour of the display being on. I'm coming from the Epic which had pretty good battery life once calibrated.
So what's the proper way of calibrating the G2? I am using the stock kernel that comes with the Cm7 rom right now but I did try the pershoot kernel couple times and underclocked it but it still didn't help. I think all that kernel flashing messed up my battery life. So any ideas? Thanks!
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Hey what's up. I got this G2 with the latest cm7, which is build number 21 and the battery life is horrible. Like 8 hours with an hour of the display being on. I'm coming from the Epic which had pretty good battery life once calibrated.
So what's the proper way of calibrating the G2? I am using the stock kernel that comes with the Cm7 rom right now but I did try the pershoot kernel couple times and underclocked it but it still didn't help. I think all that kernel flashing messed up my battery life. So any ideas? Thanks!
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Charge your phone all the way to 100% (not just until the LED turns green, which is around 90%), unplug and boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, boot back into Android and use your phone until the battery drains and your phone shuts off. Keep trying to power up until it won't any more.
Now, plug your phone in (into the wall, not a computer) and charge until full *without* turning it on. Remember, the LED turns green around 90% so you'll need to leave it another few hours after the LED changes. Once you're full, unplug and boot into Android and again use it until the battery is fully drained and you can't power up anymore and you're good to go.
Remember, after wiping stats, during the draining process *do not* plug it in to the charger or your computer as thiss will mess up the calibration.
Its a pain, and takes a day or so, but its worth it. To speed up the draining process, do some process intensive things (video watching, game playing, etc.)
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Charge your phone all the way to 100% (not just until the LED turns green, which is around 90%), unplug and boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, boot back into Android and use your phone until the battery drains and your phone shuts off. Keep trying to power up until it won't any more.
Now, plug your phone in (into the wall, not a computer) and charge until full *without* turning it on. Remember, the LED turns green around 90% so you'll need to leave it another few hours after the LED changes. Once you're full, unplug and boot into Android and again use it until the battery is fully drained and you can't power up anymore and you're good to go.
Remember, after wiping stats, during the draining process *do not* plug it in to the charger or your computer as thiss will mess up the calibration.
Its a pain, and takes a day or so, but its worth it. To speed up the draining process, do some process intensive things (video watching, game playing, etc.)
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Thanks for the tip. Now I have been doing some reading and saw some people recommended charging the phone while it is on when it is fully discharged the first time. You recommend while its off? Does it make a huge difference?
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Thanks for the tip. Now I have been doing some reading and saw some people recommended charging the phone while it is on when it is fully discharged the first time. You recommend while its off? Does it make a huge difference?
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I don't think it would make that big of a difference; if you think about it though, you're dealing with the battery and battery only if the system is turned off.
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True we are dealing with the battery but when we wipe the battery stats I think it only wipes the battery information the phone had in its system. So if we wiped the stats when it is full then let it discharge till completely empty, im assuming, you would have to charge it while its on so the phone can now learn what the battery level is and when its full and its capacity. I'm just guessing I could be wrong though. I'm just going to try both and see what happens.
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OriginalGabriel said:
Charge your phone all the way to 100% (not just until the LED turns green, which is around 90%), unplug and boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, boot back into Android and use your phone until the battery drains and your phone shuts off. Keep trying to power up until it won't any more.
Now, plug your phone in (into the wall, not a computer) and charge until full *without* turning it on. Remember, the LED turns green around 90% so you'll need to leave it another few hours after the LED changes. Once you're full, unplug and boot into Android and again use it until the battery is fully drained and you can't power up anymore and you're good to go.
Remember, after wiping stats, during the draining process *do not* plug it in to the charger or your computer as thiss will mess up the calibration.
Its a pain, and takes a day or so, but its worth it. To speed up the draining process, do some process intensive things (video watching, game playing, etc.)
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I have used this method to calibrate the battery and can say that it does have a pretty big impact on battery life. +/- 20% in my case. I also find that I need to re-calibrate roughly once every month or so.
To be clear, there is not such thing as "calibrating the battery", you are calibrating the battery meter (volt meter) on the phone. Maybe its just a semantic distinction, and that is what the OP and subsequent replies are talking about. But many people get this confused, due to the old process of "conditioning" NiCad batteries, which is not applicable to modern cell phone (Li ion) batteries.
In my understanging, you aren't going to increase battery life by doing any of the above, but only making the battery meter more correctly read how much power is left. For instance, if the meter is not properly calibrated, it may read lower than it should. So people think they are increasing their battery life.
I would discourage from discharging the battery to empty. Over discharge of Li ion batteries can possibly (not often, but in a small percentage of cases) prevent the battery from taking a charge. There is a safety circuit which is supposed to prevent over discharge, but it does not always work. Therefore, Li ion batteries should not be discharged lower then 20% whenever possible. Most of us do it from time to time on accident, but there is not reason to do it intentionally. Charge the battery to 100%, drain to 20%, and repeat a couple times. This will get your battery meter plenty accurate. Draining it to empty does not really gain you anything (the battery meter is not that accurate in the best of circumstances, anyway), and can harm the battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
Flashing a new ROM resets the battery meter. So until its properly calibrated, it will give you junk readings. This is one reason why people often jump the gun and think that a custom ROM is getting them poor battery life. Calibrate the meter, and use the ROM for a couple days, then you should get a real indication of what the battery life is like on that ROM.
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I would discourage from discharging the battery to empty. Over discharge of Li ion batteries can possibly (not often, but in a small percentage of cases) prevent the battery from taking a charge. There is a safety circuit which is supposed to prevent over discharge, but it does not always work. Therefore, Li ion batteries should not be discharged lower then 20% whenever possible. Most of us do it from time to time on accident, but there is not reason to do it intentionally. Charge the battery to 100%, drain to 20%, and repeat a couple times. This will get your battery meter plenty accurate. Draining it to empty does not really gain you anything (the battery meter is not that accurate in the best of circumstances, anyway), and can harm the battery.
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I was about to post this. Letting a LiIon discharge all the way is more harmful to the battery than recharging it mid drain cycle.
I'm having a bit of battery issues, I haven't flashed a ROM or calibrated my battery meter. So I charge my phone to full while still on, unplug it and drain it until it turns off (NOT until the battery is completely drained, which could potentially damage the battery), plug it up and let it charge while off, and I should be calibrated?
Do you need to have root to be able to reset battery stats?
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i guys now i have 3 batteries of my DHD that i have been using, and i want to store 1 of them,
what is the appropriate percentage to store a battery that i`will not going to use temporarily?
100%full, 0%no charge, or like when u buy new battery normal comes with 60%
and i want to know as i already used all of them, if i store, it will not Die?
if you are going to store li-ion batteries, make sure that they are charged. doesn't matter how much, just ensure that you don't keep them in storage long enough that they fully discharge. having said that though, i wouldn't worry too much...li-ion batteries hold their charge for a good chunk of time in storage so you shouldn't have to worry about this as long as you give them a full charge.
you should avoid fully discharging li-ion batteries as much as possible.
ok man thanks for the advice,
Best regards
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you should avoid fully discharging li-ion batteries as much as possible.
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If this is the case then why do we need to caliberate the battery, doesnt that involve a full discharge? And wats ur views on battery caliberation
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it's recommended that you avoid full discharges even when calibrating (drain no lower than 5%). obviously, it's your choice as to whether fully discharge or not. it's just a decision between an exact/accurate calibration vs. longer battery life.
for batteries that don't go through the full discharge cycle, it is recommended that a calibration be performed once a month. if you are fully discharging the battery once a month, you are significantly decreasing the overall life of the battery.
of course, i'm no expert and have no empirical data to prove any of this but you can find some test/study results online. and we all know that online info is always accurate
Hi, i wanna know whats the best way to wipe my nitro and whats the order
i usually do it like this:
1. wipe factory reset
2. wipe cache
3 wipe datvilk
and thats it
i saw many option like wipe battery statts and fix permission so when i have to do that?
thanks in advance!
radhames562 said:
Hi, i wanna know whats the best way to wipe my nitro and whats the order
i usually do it like this:
1. wipe factory reset
2. wipe cache
3 wipe datvilk
and thats it
i saw many option like wipe battery statts and fix permission so when i have to do that?
thanks in advance!
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That is the right way to wipe your phone... Battery stats wiping is done when you want to re calibrate the battery (mostly done with battery life isnt that good as experienced by other users)
salimbaba said:
That is the right way to wipe your phone... Battery stats wiping is done when you want to re calibrate the battery (mostly done with battery life isnt that good as experienced by other users)
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From what I understand, calibrating the battery does little to no good; and wiping battery stats should just reset the battery consumption stats. Same thing as a full charge does I believe.
lordcheeto03 said:
From what I understand, calibrating the battery does little to no good; and wiping battery stats should just reset the battery consumption stats. Same thing as a full charge does I believe.
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i believe that is a myth created because people wipe battery stats but don't perform the rest of the steps for calibration.
You are supposed to wipe battery stats when the battery has a full charge.
then you let it completely die.
then you charge it back to 100%
when im doing mine to make the process fast, i just wait till a night where my phone is fully charged, then i go into CWM and wipe the battery stats. then i boot up the phone and open a long movie file (2-3) hours preferably. this will drain your battery fast. I run the movie file and restart it when it ends until the phone dies (dont turn it off at 1% let it die).
this is where the calibration comes in. when your phone is not calibrated right you will notice it sits at 1% for 15-20 minutes even while playing a movie. once the phone dies.
i plug it into the charger and let it charge with the phone OFF, overnight. this will allow it to trickle charge to maximum charge. when you wake up in the morning your phone is fully calibrated. you will notice that it will actually stay at 100% for a few minutes after boot. this means its calibrated properly. (if you have an old battery it might not sit at 100% long, but it should atleast read 100% when the phone is booted. a poorly calibrated battery will read somewhere between 95%-98% after booting up from a full charge.
at least this is my experience with it.
i have done this alot because i used to have to use 3 batteries and calibrate them all. I ended up throwing out one because it was never holding a proper charge and i use my 2nd best battery for backup now and i stick with the one that holds the best charge.
*edit* a side note the one that doesn't hold a charge is because i had the phone in the sun one day and it overheated. overheating is the worst thing for a li-on battery (or most batteries at that).
side note: if battery calibration was a myth then every phone manufacturer wouldn't have warnings about how to perform 1st charge. remember they always tell you, let the phone fully die, then fully charge it while off. They tell you that becuase it is part of properly setting the battery stats.
I am not an expert on all this but i have read a bunch of threads by experts, and the proof is in the pudding... my battery life has steadily increased since i started following that advice.
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i believe people say calibration doesn't work becuase they wipe their battery stats then they dont let it die properly. This is actually counter productive and tricking your phone into thinking your battery is dead before it is. then people actually get worse batterly life and conclude that wiping stats doesn't do anything. also if you didn't fully charge it would trick your phone into stopping a charge early (because overcharge causes battery damage).
improperly done you would end up with a battery that does not fully charge and tells you its dead before it actually is.
^ not an ideal situation.
KronicSkillz said:
i believe that is a myth created because people wipe battery stats but don't perform the rest of the steps for calibration.
You are supposed to wipe battery stats when the battery has a full charge.
then you let it completely die.
then you charge it back to 100%
when im doing mine to make the process fast, i just wait till a night where my phone is fully charged, then i go into CWM and wipe the battery stats. then i boot up the phone and open a long movie file (2-3) hours preferably. this will drain your battery fast. I run the movie file and restart it when it ends until the phone dies (dont turn it off at 1% let it die).
this is where the calibration comes in. when your phone is not calibrated right you will notice it sits at 1% for 15-20 minutes even while playing a movie. once the phone dies.
i plug it into the charger and let it charge with the phone OFF, overnight. this will allow it to trickle charge to maximum charge. when you wake up in the morning your phone is fully calibrated. you will notice that it will actually stay at 100% for a few minutes after boot. this means its calibrated properly. (if you have an old battery it might not sit at 100% long, but it should atleast read 100% when the phone is booted. a poorly calibrated battery will read somewhere between 95%-98% after booting up from a full charge.
at least this is my experience with it.
i have done this alot because i used to have to use 3 batteries and calibrate them all. I ended up throwing out one because it was never holding a proper charge and i use my 2nd best battery for backup now and i stick with the one that holds the best charge.
*edit* a side note the one that doesn't hold a charge is because i had the phone in the sun one day and it overheated. overheating is the worst thing for a li-on battery (or most batteries at that).
side note: if battery calibration was a myth then every phone manufacturer wouldn't have warnings about how to perform 1st charge. remember they always tell you, let the phone fully die, then fully charge it while off. They tell you that becuase it is part of properly setting the battery stats.
I am not an expert on all this but i have read a bunch of threads by experts, and the proof is in the pudding... my battery life has steadily increased since i started following that advice.
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i believe people say calibration doesn't work becuase they wipe their battery stats then they dont let it die properly. This is actually counter productive and tricking your phone into thinking your battery is dead before it is. then people actually get worse batterly life and conclude that wiping stats doesn't do anything. also if you didn't fully charge it would trick your phone into stopping a charge early (because overcharge causes battery damage).
improperly done you would end up with a battery that does not fully charge and tells you its dead before it actually is.
^ not an ideal situation.
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I was just putting that out there. I personally have attempted calibrating my battery like you say to do; calibrate on full charge, drain all the way, then fully charge while powered off... I haven't noticed any benefits whatsoever. I've always been able to charge to 100% and I assume that with my chronic ROM flashing and bad charging habits that if it were required, I would have noticed some kind of negative issues by now. CM9/ICS is still better on battery than CM10 or any of its variants could ever dream to be. I got my Nitro in December of '11 and I've been abusing my battery with reckless abandon ever since...
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I was just putting that out there. I personally have attempted calibrating my battery like you say to do; calibrate on full charge, drain all the way, then fully charge while powered off... I haven't noticed any benefits whatsoever. I've always been able to charge to 100% and I assume that with my chronic ROM flashing and bad charging habits that if it were required, I would have noticed some kind of negative issues by now. CM9/ICS is still better on battery than CM10 or any of its variants could ever dream to be. I got my Nitro in December of '11 and I've been abusing my battery with reckless abandon ever since...
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...... these batteries are actually supposed to work better over time for a few years and i know cm10 is bad on battery whats your point...
KronicSkillz said:
...... these batteries are actually supposed to work better over time for a few years and i know cm10 is bad on battery whats your point...
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Lay off the Kronic, man and follow the story. But seriously; you were saying that the thought that battery calibration doesn't do anything is only because most people don't follow the proper procedure. I was just pointing out that I abuse my battery to no ends and have only ever calibrated it once or twice using that procedure and have yet to see any ill effects from my rampant disregard for the battery without semi-regular calibrations; and that I never noticed any effect whatsoever from the calibrations. Just carrying on a discussion; or are forums not meant for that?
I would add wipe /system to that list, since we re talking about FULL wipe.
Oh and yea ... wipe battery stats is the least of your concern, i keep reading it doesnt do anything ... also tried doing it manually by removing the battery (its a whole procedure in a post i read) and i didnt see any difference, well obviously it will never affect the way your ROM reacts or works, even for the battery %.
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I would add wipe /system to that list, since we re talking about FULL wipe.
Oh and yea ... wipe battery stats is the least of your concern, i keep reading it doesnt do anything ... also tried doing it manually by removing the battery (its a whole procedure in a post i read) and i didnt see any difference, well obviously it will never affect the way your ROM reacts or works, even for the battery %.
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How i sipe te system?
radhames562 said:
How i sipe te system?
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Depending on what recovery you use:
CWM: Mount and storage > format system (or wipe system, same thing)
TWRP: WIPE > System
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So in order, FULL WIPE: Factory reset (wipe data), wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe system
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Depending on what recovery you use:
CWM: Mount and storage > format system (or wipe system, same thing)
TWRP: WIPE > System
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So in order, FULL WIPE: Factory reset (wipe data), wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe system
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Thank you! I gonna start doing it like this nos on
Even google engineer said that wipe battery stats did nothing at all, however, I do have some luck with battery calibration on other devices, and the difference is noticeable.
P930 seems to be fairly accurate on battery indicator and I haven't done a calibration yet.
the real question is are google engineer's experts on ni-mh batteries or software developement, that is the question the guide i read about it was written by a battery expert, while its possible they were just blowing smoke i have a hard time believing it does nothing. What would be more believable is that most batteries don't need calibration if they were properly calibrated on first use. All i know is i had 3 batteries going in and out of my phone for a few months and when i started doing calibration i got 4+ hours of extra battery life. It may have just been because i was swapping batteries that the calibration was messed, my only point was that if a battery does need calibration that is the method i've found that works. if it doesn't need calibration then calibration will do nothing, that is most likely why everyone says it does nothing because MOST batteries don't need calibration as that google engineer probably knows these phones and batteries do a decent job of staying calibrated. but you also can't say calibration is a myth because the facts are every battery manufacturer has a huge warning on how to properly first charge a batter (same thing as calibrate) upon first use of the phone. I would imagine they have these warnings so that people don't need to worry about calibration later. I don't know im not a battery expert, but i do know logic when i see it.
This is the G+ post by the Google engineer
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After doing a full discharge and a full recharge. My battery is doing amazing. I don't know if I should be doing this every day? What do you guys think. I thought it was April 5th update but it was not. Any suggestions?
bradmill08 said:
After doing a full discharge and a full recharge. My battery is doing amazing. I don't know if I should be doing this every day? What do you guys think. I thought it was April 5th update but it was not. Any suggestions?
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You basically let the system calibrate the battery, which I do as well from time to time. I typically go to about 20% then charge to 90-100% Seems to work fine for me :good:
bradmill08 said:
After doing a full discharge and a full recharge. My battery is doing amazing. I don't know if I should be doing this every day? What do you guys think. I thought it was April 5th update but it was not. Any suggestions?
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Badger50 said:
You basically let the system calibrate the battery, which I do as well from time to time. I typically go to about 20% then charge to 90-100% Seems to work fine for me :good:
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I must admit, I still do this every now and then. Though it's up for debate as to the necessity to do it, but my OCD tells me too - especially after flashing a new rom. I'll then let it fully discharge, reboot a couple times until its completely empty, give it a full uninterrupted charge then use a battery calibration app to wipe clean the battery stats app. As mentioned, there'll be some people (rightly or wrongly) who'll disagree with this method with arguments saying that its bad for the battery and/or that the android system is intelligent enough to handle this by itself, which may indeed be true (e.g. perhaps not supposed to drain fully at risk of this being bad for the battery etc.). Though having saying this, I not only feel better for doing so but I, across many devices with this Pixel 2 XL included, experience great battery life throughout the lifespan of me having it.
I don't use any battery calibration apps or anything I don't root my phone at all. I used to do rooting but with stock Android it works awesome without rooting in my opinion.
Wow my phones battery life is amazing now after letting it completely die and charge back up. I am at 90% after almost 6 hours!
Isn't this a bad practice for battery health?
Prattham said:
Isn't this a bad practice for battery health?
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Yeah, it's not recommended to let Li-ion batteries drain completely too often or keep them charged at more than 80-85% for extended periods of time without using them. That's pretty much the reason why phones aren't fully charged when you buy them.
Hi
Battery technology and charging circuits are pretty advanced these days that it should not make any difference doing a full charge cycle, which if anything is not good for the battery. The battery capacity with lithium chemistry is mostly measured by voltage, it's not very precise at full capacities, but as the battery level falls it becomes a more reliable indicator.
I suspect all that is happening is on a full charge cycle, the stresses involved to the battery and effort of the charging circuit pushing a high current into it, is causing the battery voltage to peak higher and remain a bit higher whilst it is full. This has the side effect of causing the battery gauge to read higher for longer, however it will simply even out and drop more quickly as the battery capacity falls, the end result is it doesn't run for any longer, put just feels like it is doing better as the top end of the gauge isn't reading a drop quite as quickly.
The other thing that can cause a seemingly better battery drain is at what time we disconnect the charger when it reads 100%. Typically it will read 100% before it has actually finished charging. This happens as to get from a real capacity of say 90% up to 100% takes a longer time, and it's all about the impression of fast charging these days. Also when the phone is left charging, it will charge and then discharge, then top up, then discharge until its off the charger, as you can't leave the battery continuously trickle charging, and so that it doesn't look broken if we've left it on charge all day and it only reads 95% because a couple of hours ago it stopped charging and is in a run down phase before topping up again, the gauge is set to read 100% even if it is lower.
In other words there is extra capacity in the battery above what we are told is 100% and depending on when we take it from the charger, we might have 105%.
Regards
Phil
Thank you all for your answers! They are really helpful