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Yes, I am running CM6 Stable on my MyTouch, but I am kind of missing the original Sense UI, yes I know it was bloated and slow but it was pretty
Does anyone know if there is a ROM ot MOD incorporating froyo or even if not froyo at the vary least APPS2SD with the original Sense UI.......
Am I crazy for asking or suggesting this?
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Yes, I am running CM6 Stable on my MyTouch, but I am kind of missing the original Sense UI, yes I know it was bloated and slow but it was pretty
Does anyone know if there is a ROM ot MOD incorporating froyo or even if not froyo at the vary least APPS2SD with the original Sense UI.......
Am I crazy for asking or suggesting this?
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This is not possible at all, I will elaborate if you want more details...
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This is not possible at all, I will elaborate if you want more details...
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thats not entirely true. espresso froyo is impossible as yet, but espresso with a2sd is absolutely possible, and its been done...Cr's OTA Mod has a2sd, im using it now and it works great. im sitting pretty at ~123mb free space...and honestly its not that slow or bloaty. my home screen is kinda slow loading every once in a while, but only cuz i have 5 screens with 7 or 8 Launch-X Pro Widgets spread between them. but before all the widgets it was hella snappy all the time.
-BMFC
that may be exactly what I am looking for...do you have a link to download or look at CR'S OTA MOD and I guess I need to be rooted to install this?
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thats not entirely true. espresso froyo is impossible as yet, but espresso with a2sd is absolutely possible, and its been done...Cr's OTA Mod has a2sd, im using it now and it works great. im sitting pretty at ~123mb free space...and honestly its not that slow or bloaty. my home screen is kinda slow loading every once in a while, but only cuz i have 5 screens with 7 or 8 Launch-X Pro Widgets spread between them. but before all the widgets it was hella snappy all the time.
-BMFC
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I mean to compine Froyo vanilla and Espresso is impossible...Why would I say espresso froyo is impossible...Cr's OTA is in the dev section, I use it and have 145 after flashing(be sure to wipe) .I dont use Apps2Sd cause I frequently remove my sdcard so it wouldnt make sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747002
I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.
gengxi said:
I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.
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You can run it on 2.1, but there's no 2.2 ROM that we can port sense from...
I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.
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I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.
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Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds
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Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds
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in my opinion the best thing for our phone should be 1.6+sense (1.6 is blazin fast) or 2.2+sense,eclair is slower
Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.
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Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.
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I would definitely help you if I knew how to port
Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)
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Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)
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Evo hardware isn't even close to ours... As stated previously, the Hero would probably be the best bet.
I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
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VICTORY. I have successfully converted the sense build to ext2. and with only 3 operating systems involved in the process! 00:05
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I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
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He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...
I don't think it would matter. All the reading's i've done say Sense based xdandroid build's are a fair bit slower. I've personally used 1.6 android with sense, well before i started using 2.2, and i agree it was much more laggy (like a second's or more when selecting something, and also when flipping through different screen's, and sense tabs.
I wouldn't bother. Granted i LOVE sense on my touch pro, i would recommend to use the one's HTC makes (they might not SAY they did, but undeniably look identical) offered on the Market, and are pretty cheap actually. I was thinking about buying a couple, but saw some free ones that aren't THAT much difference in looks for free.
I would like to see Sense added to 2.2 if it's not hurting speed and lag though for SURE, but the 1.6 i tried for a week i stopped right away cause it was unbearable to use anymore.
The problem is that including HTC sense widgets would be illegal and infringing on htc's copyright on those widgets/design..
Well, it's no different then the available Android 1.6 w/ Sense that's been around for a while here. Not that i am agreeing on it being right or wrong of course. Course that's kind of why i was mentioning about the FREE alternatives, to avoid that debate.
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He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...
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If it counts, I actually converted mine (converted the sqshfs to ext2; used an app jesusfreak mentioned when I first got on irc) but I'm not 100% sure it works
To be honest, I'm not looking for any specific aside from the launcher ( maybe ) or the theme. It ( not talking about the converted sqshfs ) was working or so I thought. I'll have to break out my 4GB microSD and extract what I had working to tell you for sure what I have working and what-not.
I have the link saved on my laptop and will be happy to share this when I get back on my computer, I'm at work currently.
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Staysafe is the app but development has been halted/abandoned (I beleive)
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I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys
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I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys
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Ah, you want something like the neopeek builds
Yes, I am in the process of porting 2.2 Sense goapk from HTC Hero with sd card ext2 partition
I have not abandoned it.. just yet
Noob evo rooter I installed Fresh since I was told it's a solid rom with lots of bloatware gone.So now i just wanted to see what the differences between diff roms are & figure out which one is right for me but, each rom has thousands of posts & that would be impossible.
Is there somekind of a summary?
thanks in advance!
There is a stickied thread right in the subforum you (wrongly) posted this in.
Not to jump on a "noob" but this shouldn't have been posted and this should've been in Q&A anyways.
At this point, I would recommend MikFroyo v4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
if you are looking for super-fast Sense w/ full functionality. The GB roms are going to be too developmental and buggy for you.
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There is a stickied thread right in the subforum you (wrongly) posted this in.
Not to jump on a "noob" but this shouldn't have been posted and this should've been in Q&A anyways.
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thanks I just looked & maybe i'm not seeing it but it just lists the roms not what's special/different about them???
help a girl out
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At this point, I would recommend MikFroyo v4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
if you are looking for super-fast Sense w/ full functionality. The GB roms are going to be too developmental and buggy for you.
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so it's just faster than fresh?
I dont know what I am looking for thats why i wanted to see what exactly each one offers?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
It is the FIRST thread.
"Detailed ROM Wiki (developers please update)"
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
It is the FIRST thread.
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I saw it, saw the rom names, versions, release dates, root methods
that isnt my question though, what is the difference between them? advantage of one over the other?
The difference would be how they look. The kernels would be for how they perform.
from my EVO using XDA app.
I seriously doubt someone is going to post all the differences of all the Rom's on here and tell you what each one does best. Every Rom is different on every phone. Sense based Rom offer all options like 4G and HDMI. AOSP Rom's are based on Open Source Android and are not build on HTC Sense and some things don't work in them like 4G, HDMI, video recording, etc...I have flashed many, many Rom's and have read many many threads. The way I learned about them is by reading the OP of the Rom thread to see what all the dev says about the Rom and what's included and what isn't. Then I will go through and read like the last 5-10 pages of the thread to see what kind of problems and/or what people are saying about the Rom. I will also read other pages of the thread if I am interested. I then flash the Rom I am interested in, play with it for a few days and if I don't like it I try something else. For some reason I always come back to CyanogenMod even though HDMI and 4G(stable) are not working yet.
No one can tell you which rom is best for you or your phone. Every person has a different personality and even every EVO is a little bit different about how it reacts to certain kernels and Rom's. Maybe if you tell us what you are looking for in a Rom we could point you in the right direction to certain Rom's that offer what it is you want.
Hey all I'm an epic user who is getting an evo next week and I have a more specific rom choice quetion. Having never owned a sense device but always sort liking the sense clock and lockscreen I was thinking of trying myns rom (don't remember if that is the dev or the rom). However, with not having wimax in my area or the desire to output video through my phone the progress of cm7 seems very tempting.
I suppose what I'm asking is whether or not cm7 is really at the point where it could be a daily driver (and which one to use) and whether or not you can get the real sense clock/lockscreen on it and if not how good performance/battery wise is myns? Thanks in advance!
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Hey all I'm an epic user who is getting an evo next week and I have a more specific rom choice quetion. Having never owned a sense device but always sort liking the sense clock and lockscreen I was thinking of trying myns rom (don't remember if that is the dev or the rom). However, with not having wimax in my area or the desire to output video through my phone the progress of cm7 seems very tempting.
I suppose what I'm asking is whether or not cm7 is really at the point where it could be a daily driver (and which one to use) and whether or not you can get the real sense clock/lockscreen on it and if not how good performance/battery wise is myns? Thanks in advance!
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Don't think you can get the Actual sense clock for CM7, but I use a free widget from the market called Sense Analog Clock which is a skinnable clock that looks a lot like the HTC clock, but not only shows the weather, but can show system info as well like battery %, free sdcard available, free ram, free Rom and Battery Temp. Very nice. As for CM7 being a daily driver, I have been using Lithid's daily compile's of CM7 for a couple weeks now and never had a problem. There are a few quirks and bugs here and there, but for the most part it does what it should and is very fast. Give it a try and if you don't like it flash a Sense Rom. That's the best part of being rooted. You are not stuck with one choice on your phone's OS.
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Don't think you can get the Actual sense clock for CM7, but I use a free widget from the market called Sense Analog Clock which is a skinnable clock that looks a lot like the HTC clock, but not only shows the weather, but can show system info as well like battery %, free sdcard available, free ram, free Rom and Battery Temp. Very nice. As for CM7 being a daily driver, I have been using Lithid's daily compile's of CM7 for a couple weeks now and never had a problem. There are a few quirks and bugs here and there, but for the most part it does what it should and is very fast. Give it a try and if you don't like it flash a Sense Rom. That's the best part of being rooted. You are not stuck with one choice on your phone's OS.
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Oh ya I love flashing. However its a lot easier to try them all when there are just 9ish good ones like on the epic. The evo has just hundreds (or at least it seems so). I suppose that is the benefit to having froyo source. I've used the sense clock from the market as well as beautiful widgets. Thank you so much for your input! I was definitely leaning towards cm7 but
I hadn't found that release. Ill take a gander at it now.
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Noob evo rooter I installed Fresh since I was told it's a solid rom with lots of bloatware gone.So now i just wanted to see what the differences between diff roms are & figure out which one is right for me but, each rom has thousands of posts & that would be impossible.
Is there somekind of a summary?
thanks in advance!
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You don't need to read all the thousands of posts. Just usually the first two or three where the dev describes the rom and the changelog and how to flash.
It's hard to keep a summary up to date. There has been attempts to summarize roms and/or kernels and they all just change too often.
For now, the roms seem to fall into four groups:
SENSE based with full Sense: Myn, Fresh, MikFroyo, Sprint Lovers, Calkulin's Evio
SENSE based but little or no Sense: EvoNonSense, Valpaek, EvoNeo, Burnt Droid
AOSP - 2.2 Android: CM 6.1.2, MIUI
AOSP - 2.3 Android: Gingerbread
It's easier to just browse the development section because there are a lot of ROMs. I just listed the ones I've tried at one point and can remember.
R2's rom is great but I think I speak for many users that are frustrated with the lack of updates with OMGB. Maybe it would be possible for someone to get R2's rom and update it with some CM7 fixes and other things. Is this to daunting of a task or why hasn't someone else taken up this Rom???
What's wrong w/ CM7 itself? I don't think there's anything major left not working on the recent (>= 28) builds.
He's done with omgb he's gonna make omfgb next. It works well enough for most people. There isn't really much that can be improved.
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Cm7 is the bombass. Why would you want anything else?
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What's not working on OMGB? Camcorder at 720p?
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R2's rom is great but I think I speak for many users that are frustrated with the lack of updates with OMGB. Maybe it would be possible for someone to get R2's rom and update it with some CM7 fixes and other things. Is this to daunting of a task or why hasn't someone else taken up this Rom???
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i am beyond confused. have you even tried CM7 before posting your request???? Everything there works now and its stock (no theming) with a few enhancements (because thankfully slayher, cyanogen and team are very smart). This is probably beyond insulting to all the devs working extremely hard on developing GB for our incs. If you believe it is easy for devs to whip out roms, please either contribute to the process or contribute donations.
I hate to be traffic police (because most people who do so are pompous numnuts IMHO) but this thread does not belong in dev section by any stretch of the imagination. Its just a request, nothing more.
compare cm7 vs. OMGB
There are so many fixes on there that aren't applied to OMGB.
I don't like cm7 because it feels like a could use a vanilla 2.2 rom add a custom launcher and it would be pretty similar. Just not a fan of customizations.
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compare cm7 vs. OMGB
There are so many fixes on there that aren't applied to OMGB.
I don't like cm7 because it feels like a could use a vanilla 2.2 rom add a custom launcher and it would be pretty similar. Just not a fan of customizations.
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brad, please test out the functionality and speed of CM7. GB does add significant things. I am a tinkerer so I know why I cant go back to 2.2 anymore. There are enough functionality enhancements. And I dont understand, what customizations??? I have flashed 11 CM7 builds - trust me until you are a crackflasher, you will never delve deep enough to really use the power of GB.
I understand where the OP is coming from. My guess is you would have to wait for OMGB to develop and catch up with CM7 in terms of bug fixing.
I too wanted a "stock" GB rom.. but CM7 brought it close for me after I installed stock gingerbread launcher that someone ripped and posted on the market.
What kind of "bugs" are you referring to?
I've said it before numerous times here, that I haven't had a very pleasurable experience with Gingerbread ROMs (i.e. those built off CM7 source). Every GB ROM I've tried has had their good and bad points, but many of those bad points span across them all since they're built off CM7. Not being able to play videos in portrait mode, Gmail not handling text properly in its margins, etc etc keeps me going back to ROMs built off Froyo. Specifically, I'm thoroughly enjoying Virtuous 1.0.1 (built on HTC Sense), as everything works perfectly in it.
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore. If you look back at any of the threads starting with [ROM], you'll notice there aren't many that don't have either "gingerbread" or "CM7" in their titles. ROMs that were built using Froyo have dead links or aren't supported by the developers anymore, so if you have questions or want to report an issue you can't. I wish I had the skills to develop my own ROMs for G2 owners, but I'm just not smart enough nor do I have free time to try learning how to do that. Are there any devs here who would consider building some Froyo ROMs? I know there are still some out there that we could use (Villision by TeamVillain, CM 6.1.1, etc), but they haven't been updated in quite some time.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
/end_rant
You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
If you like Virtuous you might want to give the Desire S ROM a try, it's the best ROM I've used on this phone so far.
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PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
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I think you're missing the point of this thread. I don't want Gingerbread ROMs built off CM7 source (with PyroMod it's built off CM7-Nightly-31). I'm looking for more ROMs or more development of ROMs built on Froyo. Granted, that could be a really good ROM, but it's still going to have the underlying issues I explained in my OP since this isn't built off pure Gingerbread code. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
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You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
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Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
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Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Spastic909 said:
Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Who the **** are you to say anything? It was a joke just like his post... obviously you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and being a jerk off. Why don't you actually contribute something instead of criticizing posts which you don't even comprehend, douche drinker
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There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
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I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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That's so true... I forgot about that one. It's a pain to put the number in everytime you want to use the walkie talkie app or for looks on sms. I saw the name of the guy who supplied the fix for CM7 but am unsure of his user name on xda... if we could find that out, pm him, and add the fix ourselves to CM6.
Double post.
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The unknown phone number is the only bug in CM 6.1.1. Sure it's fine after you enter it, but you have to do that every time you reboot the phone. I would love to find a fix for that.
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I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
Because it's old and Gingerbread has everything Froyo has and more? I'm not sure why this is even a question.
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I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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You might want to consider the "Stock Gingerbread".
I totally agree with you. Froyo Roms are more stable, has less problems and everything is working. I too enjoy the Virtuous Sense Rom. Everything works, I tried switching over to GB Sense, not so great with the bugs and other faults that I can't easily customize. its pretty saddening that Froyo Roms aren't being supported and updated. Virtuous Sense was one of the greatest Roms I used during my experience with the G2 and when I try some other Rom I always come back to it. Just really wish I knew how to make my own Rom. But as of now, when I just try to compile a APK with XML edits, I can't compile it into binary . If only a the Villian Rom Devs would reopen their Froyo Roms.....
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Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
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What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
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What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
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GingerVillain is a good GB ROM as it was built off an earlier version of CM7 (before CM7-RC2 was released). Are you having issues with Sense based on Froyo, Gingerbread or both? There are issues with the GB versions of Sense, but the Froyo ones (i.e. Virtuous) all work wonderfully with almost zero issues. I personally haven't experienced any problems with my phone running Virtuous, just the once-in-a-blue-moon unable to wake the phone with the trackpad.
I completely agree with the first paragraph of the OP. I swear, I could have written it myself.
The nerd in all of us wants the "latest and greatest", and that is fully understandable. But the fact of the matter is that GB has not been officially released yet for this hardware. All the custom GB ROMs are ports, and therefore buggy. I tried various CM7 builds for a while, at first I liked CM7. But eventually the minor bugs all got to me, and I'm on to Virtuous (but using ADW EX instead of the Sense launcher).
Aside from the bugs you mentioned, the camera button on CM7 is really laggy compared to Virtuous (or even the stock Desire Z ROM). And the GPS issue is a constant worry to me. I was able to fix it on RC1, RC2 was fine as-is. But the fact that some people have issues, others don't, and it seems to be radio related, has me thinking its a locational problem. And since I travel frequently for work, it has me less than confidant that I will have a working GPS when I really need it.
Also, there is really not a whole lot different in GB aside from some more consistent theming and a better keyboard. Sense already polishes a lot of the ugly theming in Froyo, and I use Swype anyway, so those GB benefits pretty much are moot for me. I'm sure there are performance enhancements and other small fixes in GB as well, but the performance difference seems to be negligible to me.
This is obviously a matter of personal taste. But I don't think the OP is anywhere near alone, judging from the still decent traffic on the Virtuous thread.
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I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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I'm sure that eventually there will be an official 2.3 release from HTC/TMO, once that's been made root-friendly that should be more like what you want. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it were already ready to go but is being held back until HTC gets their Sense 2.3 updates ready.