Trying to flash a ROM.
The ROM (MIUI) i want to flash needs A2SD.
Does having the app Apps2SD from the market installed count?
Or do i have to do S-OFF and the ext3 partition stuff
Depends on what version of a2sd you want to use if you need ext partition. You don't need to s-off to use any version of a2sd. Do a google search on a2sd and miui, they have a good explanation of the different versions. (will post the link when behind a computer)
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So do i need to do the ext3 partition?
Or can i just flash it
It still depends on what version of A2SD you want to use. Read this.
i believe i'm using the Froyo Apps2SD from the market.
So does this mean i have do perform the ext3 partition to get A2SD+?
Yes, you need an EXT3 partition on your SD card to use the proper A2SD+ that is included in the ROM
I got the rom to work.
Thanks for your help anyway
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Hi I don'tknow if this is the right thread to use, but anyway. I have finished installing insertcoin Rom, and notice it asks for a ext4 on the SD card for a2sd. My question is simple, does anyone know how to activate this function
On the Rom. Or should I install my own script to make use of the partition on my SD. Thanx in advance for any replys.
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I also just installed IC 1.0.9.
You have to create 2 partitions before you flash the ROM, 1 FAT32 and 1 Ext2/3/4 with 1GB. I made the partitions with AmonRa, and upgraded the Ext2 to 3 than to 4.
Have a look at the wiki of baadnwz (link is in his ROM threat). It explains it very simple.
here is the link: http://insertcoin.baadnwz.eu/wiki/Main_Page
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
Root.
10char
ricksvill said:
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
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1. root it (alpharev/unrevoked)
2. s-off (revolutionary)
3. NAND backup the current ROM from recovery mode
4. flash custom HBoot based on your requirement (refer to table in alpharev.nl)
[by this you get more internal memory increased, maximum you can get
332Mb for data]
5. install custom ROM of your choice which uses different scripts to move apps
to sd (s2e, a2sd, data2ext, etc....)
6. NABD backup the newly installed custom ROM
7. partition SD card for Fat32 and EXT3 (1gb) using gparted
8. reflash it the custom rom or restore from the back
you can refer to rooting guide which is available in the xda forum, below url may also help you regarding custom roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
TVTV said:
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
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Not to be too pedantic but data2sd too. Still needs root
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Data2sd, needs root. Now I got 1gb internal storage
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Thank you all...
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Thank you all...
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Root your phone mate, and then use a RoM with data2SD If you want to stay with HTC sense then I recommend Droidzones RoMs.
This one is Sense 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143456
And this one is Sense 1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Note you will need a SD card class 4 and above, Read up about Gparted after you have Rooted your phone this will let you partition your Sd card Giving you upto 2GB internal Memory.
If your bored of HTC Sense, I recommend MIUI RoM its superb
Good luck
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
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Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
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Only down side to using recovery its max size is 512MB. EASUS dont like because its windows app, I find it best to use Gparted because its Linux witch android its self is based on.
ricksvill said:
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
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Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
I repartitioned my sdcard using 4ExtRecovery. 1gb ext4, and128k swap. Brilliant themable recovery.
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shankly1985 said:
Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
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Hi everybody,
got the same problem as the person who started this thread with the memory issues. Done everything except install a custom rom, which I am about to do.
(note: currently 0n 2.3.3)
Currently have CM 7.1 downloaded on computer and going to install....BUT every instruction i see requires me to have rom manager/ clockworkmod recovery. HOWEVER, I can't install these because ''this app can't be installed in your country''. unfortunately used to this.
So does anyone by chance have any links to instructions or have instructions of how I can install this without downloading any apps, hopefully an idiot proof version.(Not worried about saving a recovery etc....phone is basically blank.)
Also would CM 7.1 be a good start?? Is there any easier rom to install that still has the apps2sd feature which is the primary point of doing all this( maybe miui).
Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards,
rkdeane
Everything you need is in the Desire Developement forum - STICKY!
You don't apps, just root (S-OFF is a good choice too) and custom recovery (like CWM, AmonRa).
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Rooted my Desire long time ago using Unrevoked. Used MIUI for al long time, now want to switch to CM 7.1
Read all the treats, but still i'm not sure iff i have to have S-OFF for updating to the latest radio.
facts:
- S-ON
- stock radio
All tips welcome
Thnx in advance
Kaffer (near newbee)
Flash the downloaded radio.zip via recovery.
Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..
Gparted Linux
kaffer said:
Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..
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No problem. Do not forget to use the thanks-button.
Either with as already GParted or recovery. Recommended recoveries are 4EXT or RMD.
I am familiar with Gparted and Easeus in Windows, but I do not know which format I should hold for CM7.1
- 1 Gig ext 3 or 4?
- 500mb swap?
- The rest fat32
(this is what i had with succes for my previous MIUI rom)
OK.. i created with MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 7.0 (freeware):
13.7 GB FAT32
1.1 GB Ext4
102 MB Linux Swap
Still only 106 MB internal memory left..
What am i doing wrong??
I'm using "update-cm-7.1.0-Desire-signed.zip" straight from the CM website.
...I almost start to think that A2SD is not supported...
Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.
Just flash it via recovery. no need of s-off.
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Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
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Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
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Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
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Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
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Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.
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Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"
CM7 along with many of the AOSP ROMs is smaller than sense ROMs. Therefore if you are s -off you can flash a custom hboot Which will reduce the size of your system partition & increase the size of your data partition.
Although many ROMs support apps to ext partitions only a few will move data to the sd partition. By changing the hboot you can make use of the space created by a smaller ROM.
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kaffer said:
Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"
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CM7 only needs less than 145 MB on /system partition (I am talking about the desire's internal memory, which usually has this partiton layout: 250 MB /system, 40 MB /cache and 145 MB /data) and only 5 MB for /cache. So by using stock hboot with CM7 you would waste nearly 140 MB space for installing apps. Not very useful, isn't it. So with the CM7r2 Hboot you would get full use of Cyanogenmod.
But beware. You cannot flash the radio via recovery now, because the cache-partition is too small. So you have to do it via fastboot. It may sound scary, but if you are very careful and search better too much than too little and ask if you are completely unsure, nothing can happen. Futhermore, you will find much guides here on XDA which will help you.
If I do not have a partition for A2SD installed, and I run an a2sd script to enable it on a ROM, and move an app to the SD, does it still get fully moved to the SD? And can someone shed a little more light on this situation, with no partition space, but moving apps 2 sd/
Also, if I move an app to an sd, but do not wipe the sd:ext partition or sd card, but wipe all data partitions, will the app + its data be there if i flash a new rom?
i never wipe sd ext and all my apps are there for recovery once my new rom is up and running. As far as A2SD, i think you have to be partitioned for it to work. And the partition sdext2 must be upgraded to ext3. here is a walkthrough on how to partition your sd card... very easy this is how i did it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
Also if you are not using aomn_ra recovery id suggest using that instead of clockwork. some roms or kernels recommend flashing only with amon_ra
Here's the Amon-RA recovery which you can still flash CWM recoveries if you choose to http://www.mediafire.com/?6eo9jo7fdazp2 you may also want to read the thread on partitioning your SD card mentioned above
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i never wipe sd ext and all my apps are there for recovery once my new rom is up and running. As far as A2SD, i think you have to be partitioned for it to work. And the partition sdext2 must be upgraded to ext3. here is a walkthrough on how to partition your sd card... very easy this is how i did it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
Also if you are not using aomn_ra recovery id suggest using that instead of clockwork. some roms or kernels recommend flashing only with amon_ra
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Some say ext 3 deteriorates the life of your sd card because it's constantly writing. I use ext 2 and it works perfectly.
Aside from that you must have a ROM and kernel that supports a2sd as well as swap if you choose to use it. Simply flashing the a2sd script won't work if neither conditions are met
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Aside from that you must have a ROM and kernel that supports a2sd as well as swap if you choose to use it. Simply flashing the a2sd script won't work if neither conditions are met
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OOPS forgot to mention that part. Aren't most non stock roms set up for a2sd? I haven't run into one yet that wasnt. I was under the impression that it had to be upgraded to ext3.
Ok so if I move my SMS app to ext-2 or ext-3, then if I wipe it all but that, and flash a new rom, they should be there on the new rom?
It does not have to be ext 3 to use a2sd. And some roms don't support it or they just don't have it installed
It would still be there, but the symlink won't I believe
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symlink? What is that?
When you move apps to the partition, which is automatic, it creates a symlink in the drawer telling the down where the app is
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And how does that have to do with its data?
Basically DT a2sd just sets up sym links from the normal place the apps folder would be to a location on your ext2/3 partition on your SD card. From the perspective of Android it just thinks the folder is in the normal location it is supposed to be then (even though under the covers the underlying Linux OS is actually reading/writing the SD card). This applies to both the apps plus there data if they store it in the normal location (some apps write their data to the normal part of the SD card in which case the data would still go there).
So, if you switch ROMs and that ROM has A2SD support, it should detect the SD-Ext partition and re-setup this sym link for you when you install the ROM and you will then have all your apps back (plus any uninstallable apps the ROM includes should go there). If your ROM doesn't support A2SD out of the box, as long as the kernel supports ext2/3 (whichever you formatted your SD card with) you should be able to flash DT a2sd after you flash the ROM and then run the a2sd script as root to set up the link to put the apps on the SD-ext partition again (I think this will preserve the apps that are there, but honestly haven't done it myself so you should make a nandroid of the SD-ext partition before doing this if you want to make sure you won't have to re-install your apps).
Hope this helps some.
Doesn't matter what custom ROM I use, after the installation they all work until I restart the phone again (I restart the phone after clean ROM installation to see if it will boot, and it never does). After flashing any ROM I flash CronMod INT2Ext4, I have 512MB sd-ext (8GB SD Card). Can anyone help me with this? I would be thankfull.
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Doesn't matter what custom ROM I use, after the installation they all work until I restart the phone again (I restart the phone after clean ROM installation to see if it will boot, and it never does). After flashing any ROM I flash CronMod INT2Ext4, I have 512MB sd-ext (8GB SD Card). Can anyone help me with this? I would be thankfull.
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Why would you flash INT2EXT4 on any ROM that you flash? By the way, do you delete the already existing a2sd scripts from the ROM before flashing INT2EXT4?
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Why would you flash INT2EXT4 on any ROM that you flash? By the way, do you delete the already existing a2sd scripts from the ROM before flashing INT2EXT4?
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I flash for more internal storage, I know there are other ways, I just didn't know how to do them. And I don't delete any a2sd scrips, looks like I do most things wrong...
srtjko said:
I flash for more internal storage, I know there are other ways, I just didn't know how to do them. And I don't delete any a2sd scrips, looks like I do most things wrong...
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try flashing the rom without flashing INT2EXT4. Most roms have built in a2sd scripts, which allow you to move apps to an sd ext partition.
Also, how did you create the partition, best done with 4ext recovery or gparted.
512MB is also quite small, might want to consider 1-1.5GB.
As above, just flash Rom without another a2sd script as most have them built in or activate with terminal commands, check each thread. Which Rom are you using?
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Also, how did you create the partition, best done with 4ext recovery or gparted.
512MB is also quite small, might want to consider 1-1.5GB.
As above, just flash Rom without another a2sd script as most have them built in or activate with terminal commands, check each thread. Which Rom are you using?
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I created the partition with CWM Recovery, I'll look for the guide and make one with 4ext.
I want to use 1Gig but that INT2EXT4 guide said that I need 100mb internal storage per every 512mb sd-ext. (and I had like 150mb free intenal)
ROM I want to use is AOKP CM10. Don't know how to activate a2sd, and I don't need to know it if 4ext recovery will do it...
srtjko said:
I created the partition with CWM Recovery, I'll look for the guide and make one with 4ext.
I want to use 1Gig but that INT2EXT4 guide said that I need 100mb internal storage per every 512mb sd-ext. (and I had like 150mb free intenal)
ROM I want to use is AOKP CM10. Don't know how to activate a2sd, and I don't need to know it if 4ext recovery will do it...
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making the partition using cwm may have been your problem. Use this guide to remake the partition. Im assuming you want to use VJ's CM10.1 ROM. If this is the case, there is no need to use INT2EXT4. Instead use the preinstalled a2sd script.
After flashing the rom, you can activate a2sd by doing the following:
Open terminal emulator provided in the rom.
Type the following commands
su
a2sd install
Y
N
Y
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making the partition using cwm may have been your problem. Use this guide to remake the partition. Im assuming you want to use VJ's CM10.1 ROM. If this is the case, there is no need to use INT2EXT4. Instead use the preinstalled a2sd script.
After flashing the rom, you can activate a2sd by doing the following:
Open terminal emulator provided in the rom.
Type the following commands
su
a2sd install
Y
N
Y
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Yes, that's the guide I'm looking into now, but the ROM I want to use is VJs AOKP ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863780
It doesn't have a2sd I think...
srtjko said:
Yes, that's the guide I'm looking into now, but the ROM I want to use is VJs AOKP ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863780
It doesn't have a2sd I think...
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It does. And you activate it the same way, as how i said above.
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It does. And you activate it the same way, as how i said above.
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Ok, thank you, now just one more thing. I have to remove the previous sd-ext partition and I can't do that on PC cause disk managment doesn't recognize it, it shows 6.87GB free, I think it should be about 7.3GB cause its 8GB SD. Can EXT4 recovery do that or should I find some program on PC?
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I figured it out.
srtjko said:
Ok, thank you, now just one more thing. I have to remove the previous sd-ext partition and I can't do that on PC cause disk managment doesn't recognize it, it shows 6.87GB free, I think it should be about 7.3GB cause its 8GB SD. Can EXT4 recovery do that or should I find some program on PC?
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In 4ext, there is an option to "Remove all partitions and start from scratch". Im guessing that deletes/wipes your fat32 partition as well, so back your files up.
If you want to delete it without the fat32 being formated too, you can use gparted. But thats a bit time consuming and a hassle.