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Been reading through the root guides and notice all the gfree topics. I got perm root using the rage method months ago and was wondering if there were any advantages to the gfree method and if so can I still do the gfree
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Yes, you can and should use gfree, see the Wiki for details.
The Wiki also has a good explanation of why the S-OFF you have from the eng hboot is effectively only a "fake" S-OFF, and it is much safer to have the full radio S-OFF via gfree.
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steviewevie said:
Yes, you can and should use gfree, see the Wiki for details.
The Wiki also has a good explanation of why the S-OFF you have from the eng hboot is effectively only a "fake" S-OFF, and it is much safer to have the full radio S-OFF via gfree.
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So I read the wiki and I see what you mean now between the fake s-off and full s-off.
I too did the rage method months ago and am wondering if there are any advantages of using gfree to get the true s-off, besides the safety issue. I have successfully unrooted my G2 using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 so I am pretty sure that I will not have any troubles if I need to revert to stock in case of a warranty issue.
If I do end up doing a warranty exchange, I will reroot using gfree, but should I run gfree now regardless?
Also, will doing gfree make this process easier of reverting to stock? From reading the wiki, it doesn't specify if I have permarooted using rage if I need to unroot to do the gfree way or if I can just do it over my currently rooted phone.
Or maybe it did and I just missed it XD
Sorry for the length and barrage of questions, but I don't wanna screw this up!
Also, sorry if I thread jacked, didn't mean to, but I didn't see the point in starting a new thread for the same question, just a bit more detailed in questioning.

I went through the whole wiki and had the same questions you saved me a whole lot of typing.
G2 cm6.1.1

tazz9690 said:
I too did the rage method months ago and am wondering if there are any advantages of using gfree to get the true s-off, besides the safety issue. I have successfully unrooted my G2 using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 so I am pretty sure that I will not have any troubles if I need to revert to stock in case of a warranty issue.
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The advantages are that full radio S-OFF can help you recover from certain conditions. e.g. on the Desire Z, some users flashed the 1.72 OTA update and found then that they couldn't root it. But those who had radio S-OFF were able to downgrade back to 1.34 and root again. Those with the "fake" S-OFF lost their S-OFF because a stock hboot was flashed, and they couldn't downgrade so are currently stuck without root.
If I do end up doing a warranty exchange, I will reroot using gfree, but should I run gfree now regardless?
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Yes, I highly recommend that you do.
Also, will doing gfree make this process easier of reverting to stock? From reading the wiki, it doesn't specify if I have permarooted using rage if I need to unroot to do the gfree way or if I can just do it over my currently rooted phone.
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It doesn't really make any difference to going back to stock. You can undo gfree with certain options to the command (see the Wiki for details). Downgrading with the full radio S-OFF is safer too, because you keep the S-OFF (until you remove it via gfree).

Thank you for the explanation, you sold me on gfree, but I'm not 100% sure on that last part steviewevie. So you are saying that I can run gfree in my current permrooted state with the fake s-off that I have with the hacked hboot? I do not need to unroot first and can just run gfree on top of what I already have?
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tazz9690 said:
Thank you for the explanation, you sold me on gfree, but I'm not 100% sure on that last part steviewevie. So you are saying that I can run gfree in my current permrooted state with the fake s-off that I have with the hacked hboot? I do not need to unroot first and can just run gfree on top of what I already have?
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Yes, you can run gfree on top of your already permrooted and ENG Hboot. That's exactly what I did.
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Thanks for all the help guys it is appreciated
G2 cm6.1.1

Agreed. I appreciate it as well.
So, I'm looking at the wiki right now, and I don't need to start from the beginning of the process, or do I?
Where exactly did you begin the process joemm?
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Got it if already permrooted and running a custom kernel you have to flash an older kernel for it to work I had a backup of the stock rom I flashed then push the gfree to data/local ran the commands given and am good to go now thank you all for the help
G2 cm6.1.1

Ok so I ran gfree and it worked great. I just restored my backup of CM6 that I had and everything looks good.
Now final question, do I have to reflash the hboot now that I have true s-off?
I know flashing hboot is unnecessary, but I do use fastboot flash from time to time.
Also, I downloaded the hboot, but when I do a md5 checksum of the extracted file like it does on the wiki, it says md5sum not found. Any reason as to why?

tazz9690 said:
Agreed. I appreciate it as well.
So, I'm looking at the wiki right now, and I don't need to start from the beginning of the process, or do I?
Where exactly did you begin the process joemm?
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Start from here:
"gfree version 0.02 and its options
Since the current version 0.02 gfree supports the following options:
Code:
gfree usage:
gfree [-h|-?|--help] [-v|--version] [-s|--secu_flag on|off]
-h | -? | --help: display this message
-v | --version: display program version
-s | --secu_flag on|off: turn secu_flag on or off
-c | --cid <CID>: set the CID to the 8-char long CID
-S | --sim_unlock: remove the SIMLOCK
-f | --free_all: same as --secu_flag off --sim_unlock --cid 11111111
In the following steps the -f will be used to mimic the behavior of the original gfree version that will do radio S-OFF, Super-CID and simunlock in one go.
If you are only interested in permanent root you only need radio S-OFF and then it is sufficient to use
Code:
# ./gfree -s off
instead of
Code:
# ./gfree -f
in the following commands.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON by using the "-s on" option and to change the CID back to the original value be using i.e. "-c T-MOB010" if you want or have to go back. In addition since version 0.03 gfree can also be used t just to remove the write protection from the emmc and remove the kernels write filter to the radion partitions by using the "-w" option. This is handy if you want to restore your partition 7 backup.
ON YOUR PC:
Unzip gfree_02.zip to a place on your computer. Navigate to where the files are on your computer, and type:
Code:
$ adb push gfree /data/local
Gfree should now be in your phone at /data/local
ON YOUR PHONE:
You should still have terminal emulator up, at a root prompt from earlier.
Now run:
Code:
# cd /data/local
# chmod 777 gfree
# ./gfree -f
# sync
You now have read-write access to your /system, hboot, and recovery partitions. But you still need to "lock in" root, and give you 'su' access in the future. So just do:
Code:
# /data/local/tmp/root
# sync
Wait a few seconds for the changes to "take".
Now reboot your phone.
Congratulations! You're perma-rooted, radio S-OFF, and should have read-write access to your /system! But more than that, your phone should also be SIM-unlocked, so that you can use a SIM card from any carrier (T-Mobile, AT&T, Vodofone, etc.) See below for more info about that.
At this point you might consider downloading the 'Rom Manager app from the Android market and using it to install the Clockwork recovery and back up via the nandroid "backup" option should things go terribly wrong for you in the next (optional) step.
Also, gfree created a backup of your original partition 7 at /sdcard/part7backup-<time>.bin -- You might consider copying this to a safe location on your computer!"
For those who want to know where this info comes from its here at the HTC Vision Wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Thanks, yeah, I bit the bullet and thankfully started from there.
But now I have a new question.
Do have to reflash the hboot now that I have done the gfree method and now have true s-off instead of the fake s-off and the hacked hboot?
Do you know?

tazz9690 said:
Ok so I ran gfree and it worked great. I just restored my backup of CM6 that I had and everything looks good.
Now final question, do I have to reflash the hboot now that I have true s-off?
I know flashing hboot is unnecessary, but I do use fastboot flash from time to time.
Also, I downloaded the hboot, but when I do a md5 checksum of the extracted file like it does on the wiki, it says md5sum not found. Any reason as to why?
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No you dont have to reflash the ENG Hboot, turn your phone off, then volume-down+power and on the first screen with the skateboarding andriod it will tell you on the first line "ENG S-OFF" which means you still have your ENG. Hboot, so you will be able to use fastboot.

Yeah I saw that but I just wanted to double check my assumption. Thank you for your help! I am all set now and worry free!
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tazz9690 said:
Yeah I saw that but I just wanted to double check my assumption. Thank you for your help! I am all set now and worry free!
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Yes you are , have fun flashing.

Thank you I will. Now say, that I have to return my phone for warranty, I no longer have to change the version number of the pc10img.zip to revert back to stock like I used to have to do in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
since I have true s-off now. I can just flash the pc10img.zip and not have to worry about any repercussions by doing this, correct?

I just ran an experiment on my phone. Even if you rooted using Rage, gfree will still unlock everything.

tazz9690 said:
Thank you I will. Now say, that I have to return my phone for warranty, I no longer have to change the version number of the pc10img.zip to revert back to stock like I used to have to do in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398
since I have true s-off now. I can just flash the pc10img.zip and not have to worry about any repercussions by doing this, correct?
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I would say yes, you can just flash the pc10img.zip if you have gfree'd your phone with true radio s-off. I have not personally tried it myself, so again this is just my assumption, but found a few other post to agree with this:
Weaseal said:
If my understanding is correct, none of this matters if you did scotty2's gfree app to get S-OFF, since it doesn't muck with the hboot (rather, it modifies the radio config [NOT the radio]). So if you did that method to root/s-off (as opposed to the 'old'/alternate wpthis-eng-hboot method), you should be safe to flash PC10IMG without bricking. Can someone else sanity-check my logic?
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steviewevie said:
You are correct. I think the OP is going to try and get this guide updated when he has the time.
Not sure this needs to be sticky at the moment, perhaps until it's been updated ?
Those who only have the eng hboot and not full radio S-OFF via gfree do need to be aware of this though.
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Found these quotes here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484&highlight=gfree&page=6
And heres a quote from someone who said they did flash pc10img after gfree with no issues:
luis86dr said:
I'm gfree'd and have flashed pc10img with no issues. If you have the hacked hboot that's different ballgame.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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And when he says if you have a hack hboot, he means if that's all you have just root with ENG. Hboot, and not gfree. So it sounds like you should have no problems.
Found this quote from here Post #47:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484&highlight=gfree&page=5

You are a great man joemm. I appreciate the time you took to find that information.
I also appreciate everyone else who has helped me out in this thread.
Just makes me appreciate this forum even more!

Going from Virtuous Unity to Stock everything

So I recently put Virtuous Unity on my unbranded Desire Z and now I'd like to go back to stock and unroot the phone.
Wiping the system with Clockwork Recovery and flashing my backup stock ROM created by ROM Manager.
After that I'd probably have to replace partitions 7 and 17 with the respective stock versions and finally make it S-ON only since the phone came unlocked anyway. Flashing the recovery image may come last.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that work and once the stock ROM is on there again it should be plain sailing. No?
EDIT: Before anyone mentions using the wiki unrooting guide, I'm probably missing something here but the the PC101IMG.zip files I can get from there may not be of any help.

I would say pc10img it back, then temp root with the included psneuter on the wiki and use gfree to turn s back on. All done.
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xsteven77x said:
I would say pc10img it back, then temp root with the included psneuter on the wiki and use gfree to turn s back on. All done.
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Isn't there a potentially high chance that I might brick it if the wrong PC101 is used though?

Finally managed to unroot it, temp root just wasn't doing it for some reason so instead of running around in circles I tried this.
Involved
1. Re-flashing the Stock ROM provided in this guide.
2. Following the WHOLE guide linked above.
3. To make it S-ON again we do this:
Code:
adb shell
/data/local/tmp/gfree -s on
exit
adb reboot bootloader
Should now say 'S-ON' at the top of the bootloader.
4. (Optional)
Covering up the evidence with one last flash.
The CID still shows up as "super CID" when I run 'fastboot oem boot' via ADB, but its the next best thing if you want to squeeze a free warranty repair out of HTC.

[Q] Htc G2/Vision/DZ

so i have been using temp root on my htc g2 forever now and i wanna be perm rooted the problem is (im using visionaryr14 and adb is not an option) i go through the thses commands using android terminal emulator
su
cd /sdcard
insmod /sdcard/wpthis.ko
i get an error saying function not implemented which is what you want
then i type
dd if=/sdcard/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
it takes .2 sec when it should take .5ish
so i was trying to use hboot .76 (which is a file needed to permroot) and when i went to bootloader my hboot is .82.0000
I CANNOT FIND AN HBOOT THAT IS .82.0000
someone plz send me a link to the download
thanks in advanced all feedback is helpfull

Here is the standard disclaimer: using Visionary is very dangerous. It has a high brick rate. Finding a way to use ADB is always recommended.
Are you running Froyo or Gingerbread? Visionary will only "work" on Froyo.

TheEndlessBlade said:
so i have been using temp root on my htc g2 forever now and i wanna be perm rooted the problem is (im using visionaryr14 and adb is not an option) i go through the thses commands using android terminal emulator
su
cd /sdcard
insmod /sdcard/wpthis.ko
i get an error saying function not implemented which is what you want
then i type
dd if=/sdcard/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
it takes .2 sec when it should take .5ish
so i was trying to use hboot .76 (which is a file needed to permroot) and when i went to bootloader my hboot is .82.0000
I CANNOT FIND AN HBOOT THAT IS .82.0000
someone plz send me a link to the download
thanks in advanced all feedback is helpfull
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Go back to the guide where it told you how to temp root, It should tell you the next step/steps to perm root.

beefynick said:
Here is the standard disclaimer: using Visionary is very dangerous. It has a high brick rate. Finding a way to use ADB is always recommended.
Are you running Froyo or Gingerbread? Visionary will only "work" on Froyo.
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i am using froyo

tarroyo said:
Go back to the guide where it told you how to temp root, It should tell you the next step/steps to perm root.
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could you post a link?

Use the instructions here. This is the best way to gain root/s-off. Visionary has a high brick rate. In fact there is a sticky about why not to use it in one of the sections.
EDIT: Noticed you are going through terminal on the phone. You may ignore my post.

TheEndlessBlade said:
could you post a link?
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I don't know what guide you used, only you would know that.

biohazrd51 said:
Use the instructions here. This is the best way to gain root/s-off. Visionary has a high brick rate. In fact there is a sticky about why not to use it in one of the sections.
EDIT: Noticed you are going through terminal on the phone. You may ignore my post.
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okay but the guild doesnt show a link to the hboot with .820000
it only shows a .76 and at .84

just follow the guide and dont worry about your hboot. get visionary off your phone and the follow the wiki step by step, youll be fine, youll be happy, youll be rooted

TheEndlessBlade said:
okay but the guild doesnt show a link to the hboot with .820000
it only shows a .76 and at .84
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.76 is the G2 ENG hboot. Unless you want to run a Sense based ROM, that version will do everything you need (fastboot commands). If you do want to flash a Sense ROM you can convert to the DZ hboot (.84) using this method here: http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html

How do I tell if my G2 is rooted?

Hi,
I have a g2 that I bought off eBay. I messed around trying to follow the rooting/s-off guide here but kept getting the error about not downgrading enough (the one where md5-1 and md5-3 are the same). I somehow managed to get CM9 on to it (Mimcry 1.3.2) and its running all good. I have superuser as an app on my menu.
However when I try to get superuser to gain temp root access or I type su into the terminal emulator I get an error. If I click on temp root in the superuser app it crashes and the terminal emulator gives me
reloc_library[1314]: 30857 cannot locate '-mktemp'…
CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE
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My bootloader says
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.82.0008
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.13.04.19_M
eMMC-boot
April 13 2011, 14:51:54
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Is my device rooted or not?

yea I believe you are but you had a bad download of the rom, try wiping and flashing it again with a fresh download. or you may be able to just wipe cahce and data and then fix permissions
there is an app in the market that will check root for you
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While you may have the superuser app, did you ever push the su and busybox binaries to the phone? What guide did you follow to root the phone? If I were to go by just the hboot alone I would say it looks like it was never downgraded and exploited, since typically you'd see S-OFF, or an engineering rom if someone has downgraded and rooted it.
What's the recovery you are using? what guide are you using for the rooting part? etc. If you flashed mimicry then it should have come with su/busybox/etc unless the phone prevented the flashing of the boot/kernel (Which would be typical with a stock bootloader).

kbeezie said:
While you may have the superuser app, did you ever push the su and busybox binaries to the phone? What guide did you follow to root the phone? If I were to go by just the hboot alone I would say it looks like it was never downgraded and exploited, since typically you'd see S-OFF, or an engineering rom if someone has downgraded and rooted it.
What's the recovery you are using? what guide are you using for the rooting part? etc. If you flashed mimicry then it should have come with su/busybox/etc unless the phone prevented the flashing of the boot/kernel (Which would be typical with a stock bootloader).
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I followed the guide on the xda wiki. In another post I made when I was having trouble downgrading, you told me that I shouldn't have to because of already having s-off and the radio was on. (heres the op - thanks for your advice by the way).
I got all of the files (busybox/su etc) for the tutorial onto my phone using adb but could not execute the
./gfree -f -b hboot-eng.img -y recovery.img
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command successfully in the rooting tutorial on the wiki.
I somehow managed to get clockwordmod on as my recovery but cannot access it without using adb; my hardware buttons dont seem to do anything in the bootloader menu so I have to run "adb reboot recovery" to get into clockwork mod, which then allows me to use the optical trackpad to navigate.

[q] s-off reroot...

Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!

jay-walker said:
Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!
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You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.

ssooo bananagranol...
bananagranola said:
You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.
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tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!

jay-walker said:
tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!
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You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.

OK - kewl!
bananagranola said:
You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.
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I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!

GuyInTheCorner's ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF
jay-walker said:
I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!
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For anyone else interested in S-OFF REROOT...
GuyInTheCorner gives instructions on how to do this... ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF (with no custom recovery)
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair! Its a relatively easy fix, all you need is a little time. . Now you'll have to have a card reader for this part. Using a card reader, place a PD198IMG.zip on the root of your SD Card (this means directly onto the SD Card, NOT IN A FOLDER) that contains a custom recovery. What you want to do now is to boot into HBOOT (Volume up+Power). Once you've done that it will automatically try to detect a PD198IMG.zip (which is already on your SD Card). It will flash it and you'll have yourself a custom recovery. Now using the volume buttons to navigate up and down respectively navigate to the RECOVERY option and press the power button. Now you're in your custom recovery, open the mounts section and mount your SD Card to your PC. Now download a SuperUser.zip and flash it in recovery. Congrats! You've flashed a custom recovery and are now rooted! Enjoy
If I helped, hit that thanks button!
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37500024&postcount=1349

jay-walker said:
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair!
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You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.

HTCDEV...
bananagranola said:
You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.
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banana g.... point taken!
I didn't use HTCDEV to unlock the bootloader I used AAHK to achieve S-OFF! So, I should be OK with the procedure you and GuyInTheCorner refer to - yeah?

Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.

glevitan said:
Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.
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easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
etc, etc,

jay-walker said:
easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
etc, etc,
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if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI use 4ext updater.

use 4ext updater...
glevitan said:
if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI .
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tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I flash CWM or install SuperUser?

jay-walker said:
tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I install SuperUser - anyone?
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What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.

What happened?
bananagranola said:
What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.
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I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!

jay-walker said:
I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!
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ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.

glevitan said:
ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.
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I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?

bananagranola said:
I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?
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Yeah, that is one of the possiblities. However, he should be able to flash CWM in fastboot, SU and then flash 4ext as he is S-OFF.