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[Q] ENG HBoot = S-OFF?

Does flashing Eng hboot turn Secure off permanently? I can't seem to S-on anymore. This only things I ever did to my phone before was... flashing clockwork, flashing godspeed's overclock module and flashing a new radio.
Thanks!

n3ph said:
Does flashing Eng hboot turn Secure off permanently? I can't seem to S-on anymore. This only things I ever did to my phone before was... flashing clockwork, flashing godspeed's overclock module and flashing a new radio.
Thanks!
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It depends.
How did you root your phone?
Gfree+ENG HBoot or rage/visionary then flashing the HBoot?

1) Visionary r14
2) Gfree
3) Eng hboot

n3ph said:
1) Visionary r14
2) Gfree
3) Eng hboot
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You can re-run gfree again with the -s option, this will turn S-on.
Code:
gfree usage:
gfree [-h|-?|--help] [-v|--version] [-s|--secu_flag on|off]
-h | -? | --help: display this message
-v | --version: display program version
[COLOR="Red"]-s | --secu_flag on|off: turn secu_flag on [B][COLOR="Lime"]or[/COLOR] [/B]off[/COLOR]
-c | --cid <CID>: set the CID to the 8-char long CID
-S | --sim_unlock: remove the SIMLOCK
-f | --free_all: same as --secu_flag off --sim_unlock --cid 11111111

Does "gfree -s on" turn on S-ON even if you've still got the eng hboot ? I've not tried it. That will set S-ON in the radio config partition, but I think you will probably have to dd back the stock (ship) hboot too.

steviewevie said:
Does "gfree -s on" turn on S-ON even if you've still got the eng hboot ? I've not tried it. That will set S-ON in the radio config partition, but I think you will probably have to dd back the stock (ship) hboot too.
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Your probably right, hopefully he tries -s option first and let's us know.
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n3ph said:
Does flashing Eng hboot turn Secure off permanently? I can't seem to S-on anymore. This only things I ever did to my phone before was... flashing clockwork, flashing godspeed's overclock module and flashing a new radio.
Thanks!
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Don't do that.... s-on = bad.

dhkr123 said:
Don't do that.... s-on = bad.
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umm...it's good if he doesn't want to PAY for out of warranty replacement. Where can I find stock HBOOT? I rooted by:
1. Visionary
2. ENG HBOOT
3. gfree
gfree did not, I repeat DID NOT restore S-ON. I restore part7 and all that to get CID and SIMLOCK back to stock, but all that remains is the original HBOOT file. Also, I would like to know how to remove any custom kernels...like the overclock one on my signature.

Flash the PC10img.zip to restore to a fully stock rom, kernel, and hboot.
Since you used the gfree method, you should have no problem with just flashing the zip without modifications. Best to double check with someone else to confirm though.

Hi guys! Sorry for my laziness in replying the thread.
@joemm: Yes I did s-on. The flashing went ok (at least the log says it) but when I reboot, it still shows S-OFF
@steviewevie: You may be right.. I was able to s-on and s-off freely when I still had the stock HBoot. I got the ENG HBoot in hope to customise more of my phone, but I still want maintain its security against rogue programmes
@dhkr123: I only wanna S-ON when I'm not modding the phone. Security, ya know. I wanna have the option to turn it on or off
@DJAeroX26: Head over to the official radio and BL thread in the G2 sub-forum. The stock HBoot ROMs are there.
@tazz9690: Only problem is I cannot find an exact RUU of my software. 1.34.707.5

[Q] Difference between rage and gfree root?

So this morning I decided to root my phone after being a little hesitant at first, I used the rage/hboot wpthis method (from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228). Later today I came across what looks like another method, with gfree with the hboot being optional.
Now I'm worried I might have used an outdated method perhaps. Is that the case? What are the differences between the two methods, and would it be advisable and possible to reverse my previous root and do the new method? How would I go about doing so?
Thanks for any help...

You should do the gfree method, *but* you don't have to reverse your previous work. Just follow the steps for gfree rooting, and skip the steps for temp rooting.
Here's why you should use gfree instead of the rage method:
Gfree actually sets the phone's radio to s-off. So if you ever decide to go back to stock, you can just flash a stock rom right over it. If you tried that with the rage method, you would brick your phone.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

Actually, the full rage guide set my phone to S-OFF as well, but I still installed gfree on my phone just in case.

ibemad1 said:
You should do the gfree method, *but* you don't have to reverse your previous work. Just follow the steps for gfree rooting, and skip the steps for temp rooting.
Here's why you should use gfree instead of the rage method:
Gfree actually sets the phone's radio to s-off. So if you ever decide to go back to stock, you can just flash a stock rom right over it. If you tried that with the rage method, you would brick your phone.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
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Ah okay, though would doing the gfree method with the hboot previously still give me issues if I ever wanted to go back to a stock rom in the future?

Well never tried rage but the gfree method is the safest. Any how i did the first prem-root and s-off method useing visionary and using terminal. The only down side of it is if you wanna go back to stock rom you need to do some hex editing to downgrade and stuff like that.
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Okay so what could I do at this point to get the gfree radio S-OFF on my phone, and so that there is no risk of bricking with putting on official ROMs due to the hboot method?
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blackknightavalon said:
Actually, the full rage guide set my phone to S-OFF as well, but I still installed gfree on my phone just in case.
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This is not true S-Off. It is a fake S-Off achieved through the used of a hacked eng hboot. The Gfree method gives you true RADIO S-Off.
Like ibemad1 said, if you tried to go back to stock by flashing a PC10img with just the rage method, it would brick your phone because it would remove your hacked bootloader, and it would fail to fully revert to stock, leaving you with a nice paperweight.
The Gfree method prevents this from happening and you can flash the PC10img without worries of bricking. In addition, gfree gives you supercid, as well as sim unlocking your phone.

tazz9690 said:
This is not true S-Off. It is a fake S-Off achieved through the used of a hacked eng hboot. The Gfree method gives you true RADIO S-Off.
Like ibemad1 said, if you tried to go back to stock by flashing a PC10img with just the rage method, it would brick your phone because it would remove your hacked bootloader, and it would fail to fully revert to stock, leaving you with a nice paperweight.
The Gfree method prevents this from happening and you can flash the PC10img without worries of bricking. In addition, gfree gives you supercid, as well as sim unlocking your phone.
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So if you used Rage first then ran the last part of Gfree to turn Radio S-off would that make it okay to flash stock without bricking
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Yes ,if you only have the "fake" S-OFF via the eng hboot, I strongly recommend you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF. This is a *lot* safer, because if you flash a stock ROM with only the "fake" S-OFF you can easily semi-brick your phone.
It is a lot harder to mess things up with full radio S-OFF via gfree. See the Wiki for full details.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z

Just to ease my mind....
I used the rage method to root my phone in december. I can now use gfree to get true s-off by simply installing it on my phone and running it?
Is this correct?

Lol i used the very 1st method by unforgiven and for month i have no issue
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Going from Virtuous Unity to Stock everything

So I recently put Virtuous Unity on my unbranded Desire Z and now I'd like to go back to stock and unroot the phone.
Wiping the system with Clockwork Recovery and flashing my backup stock ROM created by ROM Manager.
After that I'd probably have to replace partitions 7 and 17 with the respective stock versions and finally make it S-ON only since the phone came unlocked anyway. Flashing the recovery image may come last.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that work and once the stock ROM is on there again it should be plain sailing. No?
EDIT: Before anyone mentions using the wiki unrooting guide, I'm probably missing something here but the the PC101IMG.zip files I can get from there may not be of any help.

I would say pc10img it back, then temp root with the included psneuter on the wiki and use gfree to turn s back on. All done.
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xsteven77x said:
I would say pc10img it back, then temp root with the included psneuter on the wiki and use gfree to turn s back on. All done.
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Isn't there a potentially high chance that I might brick it if the wrong PC101 is used though?

Finally managed to unroot it, temp root just wasn't doing it for some reason so instead of running around in circles I tried this.
Involved
1. Re-flashing the Stock ROM provided in this guide.
2. Following the WHOLE guide linked above.
3. To make it S-ON again we do this:
Code:
adb shell
/data/local/tmp/gfree -s on
exit
adb reboot bootloader
Should now say 'S-ON' at the top of the bootloader.
4. (Optional)
Covering up the evidence with one last flash.
The CID still shows up as "super CID" when I run 'fastboot oem boot' via ADB, but its the next best thing if you want to squeeze a free warranty repair out of HTC.

[Q] Htc G2/Vision/DZ

so i have been using temp root on my htc g2 forever now and i wanna be perm rooted the problem is (im using visionaryr14 and adb is not an option) i go through the thses commands using android terminal emulator
su
cd /sdcard
insmod /sdcard/wpthis.ko
i get an error saying function not implemented which is what you want
then i type
dd if=/sdcard/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
it takes .2 sec when it should take .5ish
so i was trying to use hboot .76 (which is a file needed to permroot) and when i went to bootloader my hboot is .82.0000
I CANNOT FIND AN HBOOT THAT IS .82.0000
someone plz send me a link to the download
thanks in advanced all feedback is helpfull

Here is the standard disclaimer: using Visionary is very dangerous. It has a high brick rate. Finding a way to use ADB is always recommended.
Are you running Froyo or Gingerbread? Visionary will only "work" on Froyo.

TheEndlessBlade said:
so i have been using temp root on my htc g2 forever now and i wanna be perm rooted the problem is (im using visionaryr14 and adb is not an option) i go through the thses commands using android terminal emulator
su
cd /sdcard
insmod /sdcard/wpthis.ko
i get an error saying function not implemented which is what you want
then i type
dd if=/sdcard/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
it takes .2 sec when it should take .5ish
so i was trying to use hboot .76 (which is a file needed to permroot) and when i went to bootloader my hboot is .82.0000
I CANNOT FIND AN HBOOT THAT IS .82.0000
someone plz send me a link to the download
thanks in advanced all feedback is helpfull
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Go back to the guide where it told you how to temp root, It should tell you the next step/steps to perm root.

beefynick said:
Here is the standard disclaimer: using Visionary is very dangerous. It has a high brick rate. Finding a way to use ADB is always recommended.
Are you running Froyo or Gingerbread? Visionary will only "work" on Froyo.
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i am using froyo

tarroyo said:
Go back to the guide where it told you how to temp root, It should tell you the next step/steps to perm root.
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could you post a link?

Use the instructions here. This is the best way to gain root/s-off. Visionary has a high brick rate. In fact there is a sticky about why not to use it in one of the sections.
EDIT: Noticed you are going through terminal on the phone. You may ignore my post.

TheEndlessBlade said:
could you post a link?
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I don't know what guide you used, only you would know that.

biohazrd51 said:
Use the instructions here. This is the best way to gain root/s-off. Visionary has a high brick rate. In fact there is a sticky about why not to use it in one of the sections.
EDIT: Noticed you are going through terminal on the phone. You may ignore my post.
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okay but the guild doesnt show a link to the hboot with .820000
it only shows a .76 and at .84

just follow the guide and dont worry about your hboot. get visionary off your phone and the follow the wiki step by step, youll be fine, youll be happy, youll be rooted

TheEndlessBlade said:
okay but the guild doesnt show a link to the hboot with .820000
it only shows a .76 and at .84
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.76 is the G2 ENG hboot. Unless you want to run a Sense based ROM, that version will do everything you need (fastboot commands). If you do want to flash a Sense ROM you can convert to the DZ hboot (.84) using this method here: http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html

How do I tell if my G2 is rooted?

Hi,
I have a g2 that I bought off eBay. I messed around trying to follow the rooting/s-off guide here but kept getting the error about not downgrading enough (the one where md5-1 and md5-3 are the same). I somehow managed to get CM9 on to it (Mimcry 1.3.2) and its running all good. I have superuser as an app on my menu.
However when I try to get superuser to gain temp root access or I type su into the terminal emulator I get an error. If I click on temp root in the superuser app it crashes and the terminal emulator gives me
reloc_library[1314]: 30857 cannot locate '-mktemp'…
CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE
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My bootloader says
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.82.0008
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.13.04.19_M
eMMC-boot
April 13 2011, 14:51:54
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Is my device rooted or not?

yea I believe you are but you had a bad download of the rom, try wiping and flashing it again with a fresh download. or you may be able to just wipe cahce and data and then fix permissions
there is an app in the market that will check root for you
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While you may have the superuser app, did you ever push the su and busybox binaries to the phone? What guide did you follow to root the phone? If I were to go by just the hboot alone I would say it looks like it was never downgraded and exploited, since typically you'd see S-OFF, or an engineering rom if someone has downgraded and rooted it.
What's the recovery you are using? what guide are you using for the rooting part? etc. If you flashed mimicry then it should have come with su/busybox/etc unless the phone prevented the flashing of the boot/kernel (Which would be typical with a stock bootloader).

kbeezie said:
While you may have the superuser app, did you ever push the su and busybox binaries to the phone? What guide did you follow to root the phone? If I were to go by just the hboot alone I would say it looks like it was never downgraded and exploited, since typically you'd see S-OFF, or an engineering rom if someone has downgraded and rooted it.
What's the recovery you are using? what guide are you using for the rooting part? etc. If you flashed mimicry then it should have come with su/busybox/etc unless the phone prevented the flashing of the boot/kernel (Which would be typical with a stock bootloader).
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I followed the guide on the xda wiki. In another post I made when I was having trouble downgrading, you told me that I shouldn't have to because of already having s-off and the radio was on. (heres the op - thanks for your advice by the way).
I got all of the files (busybox/su etc) for the tutorial onto my phone using adb but could not execute the
./gfree -f -b hboot-eng.img -y recovery.img
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command successfully in the rooting tutorial on the wiki.
I somehow managed to get clockwordmod on as my recovery but cannot access it without using adb; my hardware buttons dont seem to do anything in the bootloader menu so I have to run "adb reboot recovery" to get into clockwork mod, which then allows me to use the optical trackpad to navigate.