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Hi all ,
in my country HTC Distributor has no android phones yet and HTC Hero in some unique places is very expensive with no warranty , also any HTC with windows mobile is already exiest so what is more right decision if i want to develop for android :
1- buy HTC Hero , expensive and no warrenty
2- buy Any WindowsMobile HTC , with warrenty , and install android on it ?!
if ur answer is 2 , what is the best htc model for that ?!
Thanks Alot
I'm not a developer but I've read somewhere that you can install an immulator on your PC and run your applications on it as if it was running on a specific device. I think it also comes with a list of predefined devices, like Hero for example.
And it's FREE I think!
it's great to find some one to answer me , thank u
am already using the emulator but when u have real device it can make a difference
You won't get Android working perfectly on a Windows Mobile HTC Phone, the experienced wasn't specifically designed for that device therefore, you should get ALOT of force closes etc. I recommend investing in the Hero.
I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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Do note that the GSM version of HTC Vogue, which is known as the HTC touch is not able to run on android. ( I used to use a HTC Touch)
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why don't you get it online? eBay for example..
Thanka alot for all answers ,
MysteryHero said:
You won't get Android working perfectly on a Windows Mobile HTC Phone, the experienced wasn't specifically designed for that device therefore, you should get ALOT of force closes etc. I recommend investing in the Hero.
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i thinks it will be my choice
craig0r said:
I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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jeremy89632 said:
Do note that the GSM version of HTC Vogue, which is known as the HTC touch is not able to run on android. ( I used to use a HTC Touch)
For more details, visit my Elf guide on my signature.
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In my Country Egypt only HTC Touch here with GSM
slovoflud said:
why don't you get it online? eBay for example..
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eBay will not ship it to egypt !!
Any android phone will be the best option.
DO NOT get a WM phone instead, hoping that it will give you a perfect Android experience. That will just not happen.
I refuse to believe you cannot get your hand on a HTC android phone way one or the other.
And in regard to your signature:
It should be "learning" not "leraning".
salahag said:
I'm not a developer but I've read somewhere that you can install an immulator on your PC and run your applications on it as if it was running on a specific device. I think it also comes with a list of predefined devices, like Hero for example.
And it's FREE I think!
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It comes with the Android-SDK by default.
For Me... I use HTC WM it's good no problem but when I test htc android phone things change to me htc hero is my current phone and many apps and things you can explore and learn from it... it is depends on you if you like to try and htc will update htc hero rom this coming march for free to download trust me you will amaze and know the difference of the program of it
All opinions say : Hero will be more realistic !! So i think i will buy it
Thanks for all
Also Thanks for Uniqron for Correction , it's only typo error
I wanted to buy the tilt 2/Rhodium but now since windows phone 7 is ditching basically every phone on the market and really the progress of android on the Rhodium isnt as far along as my Kaiser yet (which is understandable)and ive pretty much seen all there is to see with Winmo6.5.5 on my Fuze should i just wait until android is a little more funtional on the rhodium or wait until the At&t android devices come out later this year
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I wanted to buy the tilt 2/Rhodium but now since windows phone 7 is ditching basically every phone on the market and really the progress of android on the Rhodium isnt as far along as my Kaiser yet (which is understandable)and ive pretty much seen all there is to see with Winmo6.5.5 on my Fuze should i just wait until android is a little more funtional on the rhodium or wait until the At&t android devices come out later this year
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Android is a very nice OS with a lot of functionality. Haven't used it beyond basic usage, but it seems very responsive. If you like the android look at this option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578071
i'm testing it right now on my tp2 i'll let you know my thoughts.
rsmith675 said:
I wanted to buy the tilt 2/Rhodium but now since windows phone 7 is ditching basically every phone on the market and really the progress of android on the Rhodium isnt as far along as my Kaiser yet (which is understandable)and ive pretty much seen all there is to see with Winmo6.5.5 on my Fuze should i just wait until android is a little more funtional on the rhodium or wait until the At&t android devices come out later this year
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It all depends on what you want out of your phone. For me personally, I really like a full keyboard plus a touch screen. From what I've seen, WP7 is just a touch screen and no keyboard. Also, the whole layout of everything does not look that enticing to me. But that's just my opinion, like I said, it's just whatever fits your needs.
I would personally wait to see atleast more detail on WP7S. MIX is this month, which will give a clearer picture for developers and thus what 3rd party applications and hubs are gonna be like. Also you should see more hardware prototypes, like the LG that did have a keyboard (so that shouldn't be a concern).
Then if you decide to get a Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2, the deals should be better. Or honestly you would probably prefer to move to an OS that will be supported in the future, regardless of it is Android or WP7S. There should be several WP7S devices to choose from in the Holidays. Atleast 2 (one with and one without keyboard) from HTC, and atleast one from LG, Samsung, and SonyEricsson.
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Android is a very nice OS with a lot of functionality. Haven't used it beyond basic usage, but it seems very responsive. If you like the android look at this option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578071
i'm testing it right now on my tp2 i'll let you know my thoughts.
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let me know how this turns out?
apax said:
let me know how this turns out?
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I really like it up until I flip it to landscape. starts looking like this:
If I were in your position, I would personally wait for awhile. AT&T typically offers their standard HTC Windows Mobile smartphone with sliding keyboard for a year since its release, so you should have until around mid-October 2010 before they'll stop stocking it, and you can still buy it for awhile after then until they completely sell all their inventory. If you don't like the other Android devices on AT&T, you can still buy the Tilt2. If you buy the Tilt2 now, you'll still have to deal with Windows Mobile for awhile since porting takes a long time for a fully working build, and even longer for a native ROM. So unless you REALLY want a new Tilt2 right now, I'd wait and see if any superior options enter the market beforehand, since you have quite a while before you are stopped from buying the Tilt2.
There's ALWAYS going to be the 'next best thing' right around the corner.
Who knows, maybe WM7 gets delayed a year. Maybe by the time WM7 is out, they've already announced plans for 7.5 or 8.0 or whatever.
My suggestion is ... if you need a phone now, the TP2 is a GREAT option. If you dont need a phone, then wait until a better option comes along and reassess.
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let me know how this turns out?
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I've abandoned the other sense UI, I am now using the following, landscape mode works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146
Make sure when you install to keep it on sense UI, i've tried clicking espresso and I got install errors. Haven't tried the Omnia setting on install yet either, I might give it a go later. All of the installs were done on clean SPB 3.5/Win 6.5.
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I've abandoned the other sense UI, I am now using the following, landscape mode works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146
Make sure when you install to keep it on sense UI, i've tried clicking espresso and I got install errors. Haven't tried the Omnia setting on install yet either, I might give it a go later. All of the installs were done on clean SPB 3.5/Win 6.5.
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how about Androkkid app....i that good
apax said:
how about Androkkid app....i that good
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Have you worked it in landscape mode?
I might give it a go later today, but so far it just doesn't seem as polished as spb + mobile sense.
burtonsnow8 said:
Have you worked it in landscape mode?
I might give it a go later today, but so far it just doesn't seem as polished as spb + mobile sense.
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question if i intsall the spb+mobile sense, will i lose my touchflo3d or can i switch back and forth on these apps?
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question if i intsall the spb+mobile sense, will i lose my touchflo3d or can i switch back and forth on these apps?
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androkkid does not support landscape mode either it seems.
If you install both of those there is a program which allows you to switch between all of them. Shell TF3d Titanium switcher:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602568
Does exist WM ROM for Desire Z?
No, try this if you want a similar experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20549065
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demkantor said:
No, try this if you want a similar experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20549065
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He meant Windows Mobile, found in HTC Diamond or Xperia X1. And no, I don't think this kind of ROMs exists. If they would exist, I would try these! I live Windows Mobile.
huh, thought window 7.x was just a step past windows 6.x
i guess windows mobile only refers to windows phones prior 2011 and the newest are just called windows phones? semantics sorry
For WM to exist on the DZ is very tough actually. To begin with, someone has to develop a bootloader for WM, and that itself is tough, because WM is closed sourced. The bootloader has to be placed in the DZ, and cracking the boot sequence of the DZ and placing it to function correctly in the DZ is more tough :/. The most tedious part is porting the drivers for it to function well. I think you might be better off with a WM phone actually haha.. the HD2 is actually the best and the last WM phone..
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demkantor said:
huh, thought window 7.x was just a step past windows 6.x
i guess windows mobile only refers to windows phones prior 2011 and the newest are just called windows phones? semantics sorry
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Windows Mobile was discontinued in 2010 around there. Windows Phone 7 was completely rewritten based on Win CE 6, while Windows Mobile 6 was based on Win CE 5. Their completely different actually, based on coding.
Fair enough, I'll stop saying windows mobile for all windows phones I guess, never got a correction from my windows friends, thanks for the clarification
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Course my general thinking is... why would you want to? The hardware isn't designed for it and to make it work would require a lot of reverse engineering even into the most basic of things like the boot loader. Android still seems like the best fit for the likes of something like the DZ/G2. (and even if you could get it to boot, what of the camera, wifi, gps, radio, physical keyboard, SD slot, LED etc )
But the battery could stay in a week or so.
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why wm? i had a cellphone with wm but in compare with android that is not good .
Windows mobile was easily one of the worst phone OS's to be released, it was slow, unreliable and full of bugs. I had one of the last WM phones, the Sony Xperia X2 running win mobile 6.5 and it was a very unpleasant experience. The phone crashed at least once a day, using a stylus only was tedious and it used to love to hang for no apparent reason. The syncing capabilities for exchange were no better then my Nokia E71 which is why I upgraded to the X2 in the first place. Personally I could not wait to get rid of that POS.
Windows Phone on the other hand, could be fun to see on a DZ.
jessv3 said:
Windows mobile was easily one of the worst phone OS's to be released, it was slow, unreliable and full of bugs. I had one of the last WM phones, the Sony Xperia X2 running win mobile 6.5 and it was a very unpleasant experience. The phone crashed at least once a day, using a stylus only was tedious and it used to love to hang for no apparent reason. The syncing capabilities for exchange were no better then my Nokia E71 which is why I upgraded to the X2 in the first place. Personally I could not wait to get rid of that POS.
Windows Phone on the other hand, could be fun to see on a DZ.
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Xperia X2 wasn't bad, but the ROM Sony Ericsson made. On Xperia X1 it wasn't laggy.
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vaderx10minipro said:
Xperia X2 wasn't bad, but the ROM Sony Ericsson made. On Xperia X1 it wasn't laggy.
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The X2 had really nice hardware, the physical qwerty was better built then the the desire z, but the OS was such a major let down, I still think that if SE released the X2 with Eclaire or Froyo it would have been a huge success.
I think WM ins't better than android... WM has too much restrictions and is so simple..
kbeezie said:
Course my general thinking is... why would you want to? The hardware isn't designed for it and to make it work would require a lot of reverse engineering even into the most basic of things like the boot loader. Android still seems like the best fit for the likes of something like the DZ/G2. (and even if you could get it to boot, what of the camera, wifi, gps, radio, physical keyboard, SD slot, LED etc )
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Cos my DZ is younger brother Kaiser which was best PDA ever I had - and it was Windows.
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Cos my DZ is younger brother Kaiser which was best PDA ever I had - and it was Windows.
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Huh?
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Huh?
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He had a Kaiser, which was a very popular winmo phone from HTC. He has fond memories and would like to recreate the experience.
lol
WM was terrible lol android is way better
It depends on which windows mobile. Before android was out i had an HTC Dash. I still say it was the best phone ive has so far. Had a blackberry style keyboard and WM5 or something like that. super durable and bug free.
there was no reason to root or mod it because it was completely open looked kind of like windows xp.
It would do anything it was fast enough to.
I remember the first time someone showed me their rooted doid. I was baffled, like you had to go through all that to be able to modify your root files. You meen to tell me you dont have access to all the files and settings on the phone that you own.
The second best, or if you never had a htc dash, The best. is the HD2.
released 2009 still goes pretty strong. They just dont make phones like that anymore. I dual boot an android rom and WP7.
You could run windows 95 or ubuntu if you wanted.
I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
causeandeffectt said:
I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
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Honestly, at this time, no. I may be mistaken, but I think porting Ubuntu Touch to phones other than the GNex and N4 might be a ***** within itself, much less getting them halfway functional. But the guy at talk to for this would be @xboxfanj. Dude is a God when it comes to Android.
I would suggest the MIUI ROM floating around the forums for a different Android experience, but I think that build had some issues, mainly data. Not too sure.
iamterence said:
Honestly, at this time, no. I may be mistaken, but I think porting Ubuntu Touch to phones other than the GNex and N4 might be a ***** within itself, much less getting them halfway functional. But the guy at talk to for this would be @xboxfanj. Dude is a God when it comes to Android.
I would suggest the MIUI ROM floating around the forums for a different Android experience, but I think that build had some issues, mainly data. Not too sure.
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causeandeffectt said:
I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
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Thanks for the kind words, @iamterence. It really means a lot.
Anyway, to answer the original question: the only major barrier to us having a (mostly) working Ubuntu Phone ROM is the fact that their telephony stack (the part of the OS itself that deals with all phone operations, and communicates with the RIL (Radio Interface Layer), which communicates with your hardware and software radio/modems) does not support CDMA yet. Even if everything device specific is in place, the OS itself does not support CDMA yet, which is possible to fix, but is something that would have to be done by people much smarter than me. Part of the reason that CDMA is not supported is that most of the development of Ubuntu takes place in Europe, which banned CDMA, as it didn't want the competing standards mess we have in the United States, meaning that the core team would be unable to test it and likely wouldn't want to focus on it yet. Verizon is on the Carrier Development Committee, so that should mean we'll get some CDMA support relatively soon (next Spring maybe).
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Thanks for the kind words, @iamterence. It really means a lot.
Anyway, to answer the original question: the only major barrier to us having a (mostly) working Ubuntu Phone ROM is the fact that their telephony stack (the part of the OS itself that deals with all phone operations, and communicates with the RIL (Radio Interface Layer), which communicates with your hardware and software radio/modems) does not support CDMA yet. Even if everything device specific is in place, the OS itself does not support CDMA yet, which is possible to fix, but is something that would have to be done by people much smarter than me. Part of the reason that CDMA is not supported is that most of the development of Ubuntu takes place in Europe, which banned CDMA, as it didn't want the competing standards mess we have in the United States, meaning that the core team would be unable to test it and likely wouldn't want to focus on it yet. Verizon is on the Carrier Development Committee, so that should mean we'll get some CDMA support relatively soon (next Spring maybe).
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I too am interested in this. Sounds like we're pretty much stuck until official CDMA support is rolled in. Hopefully this will happen sooner than later (spring isn't too far away, but sooner would be nice ) I'm not at all trying to pin you down or make you commit to anything, but I am curious if this is something you'd consider taking up when CDMA support does become native? Just curious if I should be hopeful to see Ubuntu Touch on our phone or not. I for one am pretty excited by their OS thus far, at least from the things I've seen. Haven't held one in my hands or anything.
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I too am interested in this. Sounds like we're pretty much stuck until official CDMA support is rolled in. Hopefully this will happen sooner than later (spring isn't too far away, but sooner would be nice ) I'm not at all trying to pin you down or make you commit to anything, but I am curious if this is something you'd consider taking up when CDMA support does become native? Just curious if I should be hopeful to see Ubuntu Touch on our phone or not. I for one am pretty excited by their OS thus far, at least from the things I've seen. Haven't held one in my hands or anything.
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Absolutely. I really like the OS, but can't run it for more than five minutes considering the lack of CDMA, although, I heard from GEEB users that they also don't have service. Not sure why that is, since mako and us use the same radio libraries.
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Absolutely. I really like the OS, but can't run it for more than five minutes considering the lack of CDMA, although, I heard from GEEB users that they also don't have service. Not sure why that is, since mako and us use the same radio libraries.
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Very nice. Hopefully things will move along quickly. I also hope that the OS matures at a rapid rate so that it will meet a reasonable user's needs in the near future.
From what I've read/seen, the operating system IS able to boot on our phones, but as xboxfanj said, the lack of cdma support is what kills us. If we were on a gsm network (or once everything moves on to the lte network) , as is the rest of the world, it would hypothetically be non-issue. However, it is still in development preview regardless, so features haven't necessarily been fully implemented. Regardless, I like to break things, so I'm eventually going to see if I can't get it to boot, just to see how it feels if it ever does gain cdma support, or I just happen to eventually upgrade
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Hey guys, if your still interested, you may want to take a look at my post on dual-booting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48890845
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Hey guys, if your still interested, you may want to take a look at my post on dual-booting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48890845
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That was a bit fun having a go on. It definitely feels early in maturity. Hopefully the development community will move it along quickly.
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That was a bit fun having a go on. It definitely feels early in maturity. Hopefully the development community will move it along quickly.
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Yeah I never got around to messing with the dual boot yesterday but the OS is pretty smooth. Navigation may take a bit to get used to(Im so used to the home and back capacitive buttons) but it does still feel early in maturity. I would like to get a running version of this simply because it's so completely different from our other choices currently. AOSP roms are obviously going to have a lot in common so this would be a nice change.
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Yeah I never got around to messing with the dual boot yesterday but the OS is pretty smooth. Navigation may take a bit to get used to(Im so used to the home and back capacitive buttons) but it does still feel early in maturity. I would like to get a running version of this simply because it's so completely different from our other choices currently. AOSP roms are obviously going to have a lot in common so this would be a nice change.
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I agree about the navigation bit, definitely feels like it will take some getting used to, however I must say that swiping up from the bottom of the screen (brings up the back button and what should be the rest of the navigation ) does seem fairly intuitive for the OS. I am going to miss the home and back buttons being so quick to access. It is certainly the biggest digression from the normal stuff around here. With the fact that it can be dual booted with Android, I think there is a lot of potential down the road for this. Especially since that way users can experience and dabble with it while it gains maturity and has kinks worked out, but a simple reboot takes brings back full functionality. Seems like the best of both worlds honestly.
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I agree about the navigation bit, definitely feels like it will take some getting used to, however I must say that swiping up from the bottom of the screen (brings up the back button and what should be the rest of the navigation ) does seem fairly intuitive for the OS. I am going to miss the home and back buttons being so quick to access. It is certainly the biggest digression from the normal stuff around here. With the fact that it can be dual booted with Android, I think there is a lot of potential down the road for this. Especially since that way users can experience and dabble with it while it gains maturity and has kinks worked out, but a simple reboot takes brings back full functionality. Seems like the best of both worlds honestly.
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Yeah I totally agree - and I do like the swiping up bit. It's how I have PIE controls currently enabled. Being able to dual boot in and of itself would be awesome. I would also like this to gain some traction. I can run a full ubuntu desktop on my lgog now(via terminal emulator and androidvnc), its much smoother than my old evo, but still far from perfect. It's funny seeing someones face the first time they see me use GIMP or vlc on my phone. I understand why ubuntu touch/phone is a bigger priority for Canonical though.
EDIT: Just read an article where Mark Shuttleworth (CEO of Canonical) stated that Ubuntu for TV,Tablet and Android will be available in Ubuntu 14.04 (Next LTS version due this April), so hopefully he isn't bsing.
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Yeah I totally agree - and I do like the swiping up bit. It's how I have PIE controls currently enabled. Being able to dual boot in and of itself would be awesome. I would also like this to gain some traction. I can run a full ubuntu desktop on my lgog now(via terminal emulator and androidvnc), its much smoother than my old evo, but still far from perfect. It's funny seeing someones face the first time they see me use GIMP or vlc on my phone. I understand why ubuntu touch/phone is a bigger priority for Canonical though.
EDIT: Just read an article where Mark Shuttleworth (CEO of Canonical) stated that Ubuntu for TV,Tablet and Android will be available in Ubuntu 14.04 (Next LTS version due this April), so hopefully he isn't bsing.
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That's pretty cool running the full desktop. I remember seeing that back when it was announced. I think it would be really neat. I mean it makes a lot of sense to me as phones become increasingly more powerful. It seems like ARM support is still needing some refinement. I've been running xubuntu in a chroot on my Samsung Chromebook. While it does work not everything does as smoothly as x86 and 64 hardware.
Is androidvnc a VM app? Sounds pretty interesting. I have free access to VMWare for PC, because of my major, but have yet to mess with it. Yeah I can see why Canonical places so much importance on the touch version, I mean the mobile market is exploding.
I really hope the information in your edit comes to pass. Hopefully that means they're focusing on improving ARM support.
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Is androidvnc a VM app? Sounds pretty interesting. I have free access to VMWare for PC, because of my major, but have yet to mess with it.
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VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing but not the same as VMWare. Think "remote control" for a pc. So basically you use Terminal emulator to install Ubuntu and run it, then you use vnc to remotely control it by connecting to whats running in the terminal. It will bring up the OS when connected. It's meant to control the computer remotely, but in this case it's the only way I know of to use the Ubuntu thats running in the terminal(at least graphically). I have both Oracle Virtualbox and VMWare on my computer because I only use Linux. So if I REALLY need something windows based(Like LGNPST for our phone) I'll use VMWare. The wine frontend for Linux is pretty hit or miss so I never use it(I dont even have it installed anymore), I just load Windows virtually. Normally I use WindowsXP on Virtualbox but LGNPST doesnt play well with Virtualbox(USB isnt handled the same way as VMWare).
If you see an app in the play store called Complete Linux Installer, that's what it does. It installs the ARM version of Ubuntu(or whatever distro you pick), then runs it in terminal emulator. But to see the GUI you then have to log in via AndroidVNC(or a similar VNC program, only ever used AndroidVNC though).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that their are some other requirements, like a kernel that supports loopback devices.
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VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing but not the same as VMWare. Think "remote control" for a pc. So basically you use Terminal emulator to install Ubuntu and run it, then you use vnc to remotely control it by connecting to whats running in the terminal. It will bring up the OS when connected. It's meant to control the computer remotely, but in this case it's the only way I know of to use the Ubuntu thats running in the terminal(at least graphically). I have both Oracle Virtualbox and VMWare on my computer because I only use Linux. So if I REALLY need something windows based(Like LGNPST for our phone) I'll use VMWare. The wine frontend for Linux is pretty hit or miss so I never use it(I dont even have it installed anymore), I just load Windows virtually. Normally I use WindowsXP on Virtualbox but LGNPST doesnt play well with Virtualbox(USB isnt handled the same way as VMWare).
If you see an app in the play store called Complete Linux Installer, that's what it does. It installs the ARM version of Ubuntu(or whatever distro you pick), then runs it in terminal emulator. But to see the GUI you then have to log in via AndroidVNC(or a similar VNC program, only ever used AndroidVNC though).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that their are some other requirements, like a kernel that supports loopback devices.
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Oh okay, actually can't say I've ever heard of that before. Sounds pretty interesting really. I always love tinkering with things. Honestly I need to spend more time in Linux so I can become a CLI ninja master. I originally added it to my chromebook so I could use Open/Libre Office for when I needed a more complete experience for things like papers which are a bit hellish to format properly in GDrive (one of its weakest aspects honestly). Does the stock CM11 kernel have the loop back support? Is it much work to remote in? I've only used Chrome remote before.
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Oh okay, actually can't say I've ever heard of that before. Sounds pretty interesting really. I always love tinkering with things. Honestly I need to spend more time in Linux so I can become a CLI ninja master. I originally added it to my chromebook so I could use Open/Libre Office for when I needed a more complete experience for things like papers which are a bit hellish to format properly in GDrive (one of its weakest aspects honestly). Does the stock CM11 kernel have the loop back support? Is it much work to remote in? I've only used Chrome remote before.
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Yeah cm11 kernel should. My experience has been that most non stock kernels should have it. And by non stock I mean the exact kernel that came with your device, both the lgog and my old evo wouldnt support loopback until I either flashed something like CM or in the case of my lgog flashed viper kernel(still running stock). It's not hard to do at all, but if you want the easiest quickest method here is the play store link for Complete Linux Installer. Even the free version has step by step instructions on what you need and how to use it. It will also download some of the distro images for you thru the app. They are big images obviously so Wifi is recommended.
On Canada E973 post they have rom for ubuntu touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600702
[ROM] Ubuntu Touch [Jan-8-2014]
Sent from my LG-E977 using xda app-developers app
Hi, I dare to ask this question since the threads I can find on this dates back to 2013
So I like to try android on my HTC Touch Pro 2 Rhodium 100 phone with English WM 6.5 (Hard SPL'ed unlocked), but what I rather would like is that the phone ran only android. And a newer version than the ones presented in the 2013 threads, it seems the last one there would be 2.3.7.
Is that possible and do you have some suggestions?
With kind regards
JBJ
insomniacno1 said:
Hi, I dare to ask this question since the threads I can find on this dates back to 2013
So I like to try android on my HTC Touch Pro 2 Rhodium 100 phone with English WM 6.5 (Hard SPL'ed unlocked), but what I rather would like is that the phone ran only android. And a newer version than the ones presented in the 2013 threads, it seems the last one there would be 2.3.7.
Is that possible and do you have some suggestions?
With kind regards
JBJ
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Possible yes, done nope.
What I meant by that is that the latest fully (as much as it can be) working android version for this device is 2.3.7 and the most stable ROM being CM7.
Hardware wise the phone should probably be quite able to run android 4.0 and there is a ROM built but most things are not working so you would need to either learn how to build an android ROM/kernel and fix missing things (which would be a lot of hard work) or find a developer that is willing to do it for you, which would probably be impossible so I'd say just run CM7 or you could sell your device and buy some other ultra cheap device that has a newer android version.
Ranomez said:
or you could sell your device and buy some other ultra cheap device that has a newer android version.
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I did just that. I can recommend A Droid 4, mine is running CM13 Remarkably well, their cheap now but still have a good key board.
kzin42 said:
I did just that. I can recommend A Droid 4, mine is running CM13 Remarkably well, their cheap now but still have a good key board.
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Well I will certainly always miss the hard keyboard on the TP2 but I did jump on the high end wagon, good luck with your phone.
Hello, (sorry my English is bad) I also have a HTC Touch Pro2 Win 6.5. I want to flash the Phone, but there is no Download for a Flashing/rooting -Program. Is hire anyone who can give me a active Download? Another Question: is there also a CUSTOM ROM with Android Nougat 7.0?
Many Thanks for Your Help
Gallea said:
Hello, (sorry my English is bad) I also have a HTC Touch Pro2 Win 6.5. I want to flash the Phone, but there is no Download for a Flashing/rooting -Program. Is hire anyone who can give me a active Download? Another Question: is there also a CUSTOM ROM with Android Nougat 7.0?
Many Thanks for Your Help
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Late reply but read this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049567
While downloading the files from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566955
Also dude this phone is really old it obviously would be impossible to run any version of android newer than 4.0 on such low specs and no one made a version of 4.0 that has enough working to be usable as a phone or under any other usage case.