Which one do you like better? I'm not necessarily looking for best over clock speed, but actually better battery life. Any ideas?
I prefer kings kernels.. I haven't had good results on nets kernels lately.. cpu stayed at 100% a lot for me..
Kings scales just fine for me and provides great battery life.. I use his bfs #4 kernel.
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I've used nearly every one of netarchy's kernels, but am now using King's. My battery life is awesome on BFS #4, and everything is very smooth.
I actually prefer hero's baked snack kernel 1. It also has HAVS like king's kernel. Standby time battery life is about the same between king's and hero's, but for me hero's battery life is better when actively using the phone.
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Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?
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Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?
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exactly my thoughts.. which is better?
WutTheHeezy said:
exactly my thoughts.. which is better?
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Google is your friend. But basically, BFS is supposed to be faster, while a little less stable, while CFS is supposed to be a little more stable (its older), but the trade off is the speed. I personally dont see much of a speed difference, but I still usually use BFS.
netarchy. Never had any problems with his kernels. Haven't tried King's yet, but the way I look at is, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Kings
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
I'm sure KingxKlick is a great guy and knows what he's doing, but I avoid his kernel because he doesn't actually own an Evo. I stick with netarchy because he's someone I trust.
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Unistall voicemail from Titanium backup. Then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7749762&postcount=44 That is the updated Apk for the voicemail. Hope that helps man. And for me I use Kingz and love it. Been getting some very good battery life out of it. And its smooth even when running @ 1.17 oc.
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.
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Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.
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hmm, thats weird. I didn't have the problem before i flashed it with the kernel. any info on the 4g issue? if thats rom as well, then netarchy kernel is fine.
edit: just did a quick flash of king's kernel. seems like the 4g issue is rom issue as well.
Kings has been amazing so far, i'm very satisfied!
I have used both and get better battery out of kings by a large margin. I am using the BFS #4 and couldn't be happier. I had the 100% CPU issue on nets last update.
Here is a simple thing for me: When I am running Kings, my phone seems cooler to the touch, no matter what I'm doing. On nets, it get warm, then cools, then warm. Heat is wasted energy.
I think lots of the meat and cheese in Kings kernel came from net anyhow, but I no longer has a need to flash a new kernel. Sticking with kings.
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Like said above, if it isn't broke, I don't fix it. I'm using Netarchy's 4.18 and I'm not having the 100% cpu issue at all
Ok, figured I'd contradict myself and flash king's #4 bfs and test benchmarks against net's 4.1.8 bfs. Here are my results:
Fresh 3.1.0.2 / novatec 0003 / setcpu @ 1152 performance
fps2d:
net's - 54/2.69 attempt 2 of 3
king's - 54/1.84 attempt 3 of 3
linpack:
net's - 37.029 attempt 4 of 5
king's - 37.661 attempt 4 of 5
Nena Mark: Only ran once
net's - 15.7
king's - 15.5
Neocore: Only ran once
net's - 31.4
king's - 31.7
Quadrant:
net's - 1496 attempt 1 of 2
king's - 1513 attempt 2 of 2
Looks like king won this round. Gonna keep running it to see what battery life is like.
Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron
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Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron
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Lol or Ford vs. Chevy
anyone know a good kernal to use for overclocking along with redemptive revolution rom?
Thanks
Does the leaked HTC kernal that Lou built into 1.8 not fit your needs?
Sent from somewhere in NH.
is it overclockable?
Not yet. It's leaked, not official.
What do you gain by over clocking? This kernal charges faster and battery life is better. Others have posted results in the Redemptive thread.
Sent from somewhere in NH.
nothing really, just impressive benchmarks. I just like pushing my phone past it's normal limits, even if i get no noticeable gain
I know this is a really noob question, but what is a kernel? I see them all over the developer section when i look for roms, but i have no clue what it is (sorry if this is a bumped thread).
I also wanna know cuz i would like to use the right kernel to my incredible....
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A kernel is the bridge between the hardware (for example processor, memory, nand) and the software (the ROM). This is why changing the kernel can have such a huge impact on battery or speed. For example, one kernel can tell the processor to work its butt off, which decreases battery, while another will tell the processor to relax, increasing the battery life but decreasing speed. Since every processor is made from different silicon, not every kernel fits all phones.
Also, in kernels another important thing is the task scheduler. The Brain **** Scheduler (BFS) basically has ups and downs in performance but the Completely Fair Schedulare (CFS) is pretty much consistent in performance. It's hard to explain. I personally prefer BFS over CFS. Also, if you want higher quadrant scores, use BFS.
Hope this helps.
Thank you so much!
AOSP or Sense - it matters to the kernel
Noteworthy when flashing a kernel -
AOSP ROMs require AOSP kernels, Sense requires Sense kernels.
Same story with Froyo or Gingerbread ROMs, either AOSP or Sense.
Bootloops happen when they get mixed.
Great explanation, thanks- I was too embarrassed to ask, so I used the search...and here it was! finally I have a clue
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Noteworthy when flashing a kernel -
AOSP ROMs require AOSP kernels, Sense requires Sense kernels.
Same story with Froyo or Gingerbread ROMs, either AOSP or Sense.
Bootloops happen when they get mixed.
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Except that i have used ziggys latest bfs wo havs on cm7 an z roms
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hey guys. i'm trying to find the kernel review thread with no luck.
I switched roms (i'm on MetroPCS so using the latest MetroDroid rom) and Im finding the kernel slow. I use setcpu profiles and I notice a slight delay in response that wasn't there before.
I also benchmarked using Quadrant and setcpu set to performance at 1190/1190 and got 1083! much lower than any score i've had in the past.
what's the newest and greatest sense kernel for improved speed and performance? I have the seidio battery and always near a charger, so i'm looking for snappy performance over squeezing 15 minutes more out of the battery.
thanks!
P.S. this is a Sense-rom but 90% de-Sensed. I just prefer the look and feel of Sense after I modify my way over others.
Ziggy's (ziggy471.com) always run faster than Netarchy's for me, but you're going to have to try a few for yourself as every phone reacts differently to diff kernels.
Netarchy's Kernels & Ziggy's Kernels
nets out with his 4.3.4 and has hdmwin built in also has the kernel guide in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
Ok so I'm currently running cm7 on my newly rooted HTC evo 4g. I was wondering if there are Roms that run as smoothly as cm7 and which roms have the most energy efficient os ?
Well most energy efficient would have to be myns warm 2.2.
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i love cm7 and if you couple that with tiamat, you will get the best battery life. i can easily get 18-35 hrs easily. unfortunately, there is no kernel for gingerbread on sense yet. so looks like you would have to go with any froyo roms or any aosp roms, since they have plenty of custom kernels for you to choose from.
Mik roms. Froyo. G. Z.
Or warm 2.2.
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thanks guys
I'm now running the new cm7.1 coupled with the tiamat kernel so my android is now up to 2.3.4 and I'm running the smartass CPU governer and its working amazingly. Very smooth and very efficient. Tommy I also tried your Rosie mod for unrooted phones before I got my replacement and dude that's a great idea for those who don't want to root for whatever their reason. Keep working on those bro. I need to take some programming classes and whatnot so I can learn to write my own mods. As well I've got a couple of ideas but i don't exactly know how to do it lol take care guys and thanks for the help
Decks is very energy efficient once you flash a custom kernel. Decks is cm7 just stripped down. I have my EVO running tiamat 4.0.5 overclocked to 1228 and underclocked to 128 while utilizing the performance governor. Smartass governor saves more power, but my extended battery can handle it. SV kernels are very good as well. SBC helps out a lot.
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