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Just a forum tip

I think the development section after selecting it should then have sections for EACH version rom. ie. Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS.
So that when you are looking at what is being developed you are not diluted with newer releases of older versions when you are really trying to find the best of a specific version.
This would allow it to be more organized.

+1 Would save a lot of confusion for noobs as well. Specific mods for specific version go in that section and so on and so forth .. yeah. Like it.

well there is only gingerbread and ICS, some mods are universal so you would have to post twice? and would you split up the theme and apps section too?

Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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This
People have trouble following the current organizational scheme

shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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Like how this topic is in the wrong section.
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This idea is irrelevant because all people have to do is read. Even if the Title doesn't say the firmware version, the OP will 9 times out of 10.
The thought is good, but in reality.....nah bro
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Why the hell not? Even if the
OP does contain the firmware version, it would stop a lot of the confusion for the noobs that don't read. As for people that DO read, it would be convenient to go in a section with, say, just ICS ROMs, to check out the latest goodies instead of having to look through all the GB ROMs and other things that aren't ICS related.
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If people don't read And flash and destroy....it's their fault.. There are already "please read if you're new" posts or "if you're new to ICS" posts. If people are lazy and disregard proper guided precautions to help inform everybody before they start messing with expensive phones....then a bricked phone is what you'll get.
I don't cater to the weak and lazy.
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If this was implemented does anyone want to start a pool on how long it will take before a dev gets flamed for not posting in the right section

Funny thing is the noob want to jump straight in and flash and screw things up then freak out then read lol
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This Nobama entitlement mentality gets old.....fast!
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Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.

Jester6 said:
Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.
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Oh god this is so true.

Now girls
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I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
my .02

Oh boo hoo those poor noobs we need to hand them step by steps and make sure that everyone has the opportunity to flash rooms! Rom flashing is a basic human right and every American should get it free of hassle!
I say the free account registration inhibits minorities like the computer illiterate and old people, we should abolish this account registration so everyone has the opportunity to post anything!
In fact those poor souls who brick their phones should get new ones for free, I mean the developers get donations so they should spread the wealth around it would be better for everyone!
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Darmokk said:
I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
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I find it hard to believe clutter is the reason dumb threads are started.
Raise your hand if you have seen someone post a question or news item that has already been posted less than 5 threads down in the first page of general at the time of posting.
*raises hand*

Forums sections are well explained and disclosed, even if people rant and flame at noobs, it is still a noob friendly atmosphere here, the problem also is that devs and senior members still repeat themselves overe and over trying to help noobs and besides alot of members on xda are just too lazy to read, only screwing up people learn to either not to touch or mess with something they shouldn't have mess with in first place, nobody was born knowing all, yet nobody was born brainless, if people screw up after so many threads of guides and how to's lost in limbo around the forums, let them screw up, imbeciles only see the finger that is pointig the right direction.
If stickies, guides and bibles haven't helped, it is useless to clutter this forums with more subforums
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Bottom line is everyone here was a noob...somewhere at sometime. All everyone needs to do is read people with respect and not flame.
"f_ing noob, learn to search" I'd not the way to fix things
Would you yell at a child for doing something when its an innocent mistake. I'm not saying all noobs are innocent...but you catch more flies with honey then vinegar
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My experience in Q&A

So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

Yeah, I could have given it a little bit more time but without a status bar I didn't want to wait...
I guess instead of complaining about it, I will take the initiative to contribute my experience with the E4GT to the community. I'm no developer but I will try to help as best as I can.
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Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.

someguyatx said:
Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.
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I flashed the odexed theme... I also thought it was a bad flash. I usually read most of the thread and the comments.
I just didn't read enough to see that there was a problem flashing over stock.
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This time it was buried and as dumb as I felt flashing a theme that said deodexed over a stock rom it worked.

Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.

You must realize that we all have lives outside of this forum, I too try to help out as often as I can with what little knowledge I have. Its the only way I can give back but I also work full-time and go to college full-time. So there are a few days where I can't find the time to post or help out. I'm not by any means saying that this is the case for everyone here, just simply giving you an example that may or may not be the case for some of us here.
I can almost promise you, however, if you give it enough time, someone WILL come to your aid.
I just hope you realize this and don't think any less of these people here. They really do put a lot of time and effort into helping and developing for all of us in hopes of getting nothing more than a simple "thanks".
I also hope that your next experience is nothing like the previous one.
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dev_man77 said:
Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.
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I agree with the backup idea, but I'm not touching the backup restore functions on an ICS kernel until it has been fully tested and determined to be safe to use.
I thought I had backups of the SystemUI on my SD card but they were for earlier builds and would not work. I realize that everyone has their own life outside of XDA. That is why when I saw that my question didn't even have one reply when several other questions had new comments, I decided to just flash a new ROM.
The reason I have started this thread is because I am not the first user to be ignored when asking a simple question to ask if someone could help with such a simple issue.
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Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Early on I used to answer every question I could but eventually most threads were answers before I even got there so slowly I stopped going to the q and a sec
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I live in the q&a section. Sorry I didn't see your post lol. I try and help out as much as I can
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jayharper08 said:
I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT
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Restored a lot of faith for me...patience is a rare commodity. Thank you sir
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Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.

akarol said:
Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.
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In theory, yea. But a lot of those answers you "searched" for are found in the Q&A section.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

I admit I don't frequent Q&A as much as I do General and Development, but if I see something I feel that I can answer then I always try to contribute. If it's something completely out of my league but I know someone who might know the answer then I will, occasionally, post that information.
While I understand OP's need for a quick resolution (although most questions in Q&A need the same) I agree with those who have advocated allowing a little more time for people to respond.
I know it can be frustrating (and intimidating) to be stuck on a problem with no answer but again, as stated in the posts above, sometimes people who can help simply aren't online at the time the problem is posted. Though I'm here a lot during the day (from work, shhhh) in the evenings my time is a bit more sporadic and I've come back to the computer with PMs from people who asked me something but thought I was ignoring them, that bothers me because I would never willingly ignore someone.
So I think Q&A definitely has its uses and maybe this post should be our tap on the shoulder to peruse it more often and see if there is something we can help answer.

To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....

Compusmurf said:
To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....
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When most roms here are 1 click executable files its not so easy to extract the apk...
And with most of the roms that are zipped, they are already themed...
I have resolved my own issue by flashing a new rom, that was not the point of this thread... the point I wanted to bring up with this thread is that it is apparent that 95% of the users here only frequent General and Development. If more users just checked Q&A once and a while to see if there is anyone needing help with something that they have already experienced, they could easily reply with what they did to resolve the issue.
Let's all stop pointing the blame and help to better the community... we all can help in one way or another.
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Moderator Help

Can someone please sticky this to all E4GT Forums. At least general, Q and A, and Dev sections. I am sure everyone is tired of seeing threads on Help how do I go back to stock gingerbread. I guess some people just don't get it, so please be as descriptive and simple as you can be in your sticky.
How to return to stock rooted Gingerbread EL29 the best way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
I guess maybe one for ICS as well.
How To return to stock rooted Ice Cream Sandwich FF18 the best way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Once again thanks to sfhub
Hopefully the stickies will catch someone's eyes.
Thanks

Bump maybe
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I have the welcome to et4g sticky in general, I'll edit it to add this info, for what its worth I'm pretty sure the people who start threads like this don't read stickies much less bother searching as I see posts all the time asking how to do things covered in various stickies, never hurts to try though...
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I kinda figured they didn't read the stickies either, your guide is great by the way I just think some people are not willing to absorb all your valuable information or take the time really its kind of sad.
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riggs170 said:
I kinda figured they didn't read the stickies either, your guide is great by the way I just think some people are not willing to absorb all your valuable information or take the time really its kind of sad.
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Thanks, I basically just tried to condense what was already out there in a noob friendly manner to save the people much smarter than me who do the actual development around here from being pestered by easy questions, I learned by reading and searching, not posting, hell I used this site for like 2 years before even registering, like the intro video used to say "you're not special, the question you have has already been answered,just search"... hah if you look at my profile you'll see that's the only thread I've ever actually started...
edit: edited my guide to reflect requested info, if there is anything else you guys think should be added just post or shoot me a pm or something ,id be happy to do it if it helps cut down on repeat questions around here
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cp320703 said:
Thanks, I basically just tried to condense what was already out there in a noob friendly manner to save the people much smarter than me who do the actual development around here from being pestered by easy questions, I learned by reading and searching, not posting, hell I used this site for like 2 years before even registering, like the intro video used to say "you're not special, the question you have has already been answered,just search"... hah if you look at my profile you'll see that's the only thread I've ever actually started...
edit: edited my guide to reflect requested info, if there is anything else you guys think should be added just post or shoot me a pm or something ,id be happy to do it if it helps cut down on repeat questions around here
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Just noticed this thread. OP, I'll look over everything tomorrow to see what the best course of action should be. Thank you for the input guys. Greatly appreciated.
---Jay--- From the GNex

Please read people holy cow!!!

To all xda-ers
Read read read and read again.....then search....and read some more holy crap people the CALL ECHO ON JELLYBEAN ROMS WILL BE PRESENT UNTIL WE GET AN OFFICIAL ROM FROM TMOBILE OR UNTIL SOMEONE FINDS A PERMNANET FIX FOR IT UNTIL THEN STOP ASKING ABOUT IT JEEZE... I don't know how many times I've seen this question but I've seen it one too many.
Theirs small things like make sure noise suppression is checked in your call settings or someone else stated that turning the volume down a bit fixes it. And or flashing another radio could cause a temp fix for it...but please read and or search before asking questions......
Number one rule here guys search before asking questions as your question may have been answered already and 95% of the time IT HAS!!!
Im done ranting now thanks for READING! And have a wonderful afternoon
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Cool story bro.
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I've never had a call echo complaint on AOKP JB, and have been running it for months.

I hope you feel really good about yourself, starting this thread all over such a small issue.

The irony of this post is that now when people search up "call echo" on the search bar now, this is the first thread out of several dozens of other threads that shows up and mentions this issue.
What's worst is that the post doesn't solve anything at all, lol. If it really bothered you, you could have simply provided links in your post to the particular threads where those who are actually looking will know where to search for prior answers.
In that way it will save you time and others... additionally, your rant wouldn't be another waste of space in these forums and instead actual be of some use to people... just a thought.

In the second paragraph I clearly stated the little things that people have found to temporarily fix the issue
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I hope you feel really good about yourself, starting this thread all over such a small issue.
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And its a small issue that every one keeps asking about Instead of searching or reading thru the forums I've seen it asked at least 10 times or more in multiple threads I myself don't have the issue and why even post in here saying This is a waste of space when your reply was also a waste considereing none of you posted anything to help with the issue either but clearly just posted to flame
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What kind of responses were you expecting from your post? Obviously since you emphasized greatly that people need to use the search bar more there is no need for us to add more to the minor information you already posted other than proper links... which then again contradicts using the search bar. As much as it is a nuisance, there are always going to be people on these forums who will ask old questions... don't let it be your problem, you're not obliged to answer the questions all the time. There are actually some bright people on the forums that enjoy the idea of helping someone (even if it's a common question), cheers!

Yeah I'm aware of that I've been trying to help people out all day myself
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Not all chip sets are equal and perform the same with custom kernels remember that.
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Y MY PHONE ECHO? SAMSUNG AND XDA Y U NO FIX??? ERMAGHEEEERD
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You guys can criticize this post all u want but he's right.. People suck..
Kind of like how Mohan asked people not to post in his Dev thread unless they have logs. And to use the embryo general thread instead yet people still fill his thread with the same few questions... It's crazy..
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FineTalent said:
...As much as it is a nuisance, there are always going to be people on these forums who will ask old questions... don't let it be your problem, you're not obliged to answer the questions all the time. There are actually some bright people on the forums that enjoy the idea of helping someone (even if it's a common question), cheers!
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^^^ This ^^^
I understand your wanting to rant and I feel your frustration (Believe me when I say this. You should see some of the stuff that comes our way). Like FT said above, there is always going to be someone that asks the same question over and over and over, sometimes the same question in multiple threads. These people will never learn. But they are becoming more and more predominate in the forums lately.
We have 4.8m users and anywhere from 36-50k users online at a time. That type of userbase is fantastically hard to comprehend when it comes to things like this. Few want to learn anymore and many just come here to make their phone/tablet cool looking and could care less about smali hacks, de/compiling apks (what apk means for that matter), Android.policy.jars,...
Best answer I could give you now is to simply ignore those posts and move on to the next relevant post. If you want to answer, then by all means. Users should help each other when possible. But that doesn't mean spoonfeeding either.
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I'll leave this thread open until 11am est if anyone else want to respond but after that it is getting Closed Closed Closed Closed Closed

He's absolutely right about the post but unfortunately it was a waste of time and effort because most of the people that ask the same questions over and over are never gonna take the time to read this
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He's absolutely right about the post but unfortunately it was a waste of time and effort because most of the people that ask the same questions over and over are never gonna take the time to read this
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This is true and hilarious..
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[Q] ROMS

Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?

Have you even looked through the forums!!! Stop asking about ETA'S!!!
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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From what I've been told we they are really close, but again they aren't going to put anything out that doesn't work fully so as for a real time frame, when everything works and they feel it's ready for mainstream consumption

Why don't you look in the dev forums. That's where it'll be posted
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...

Enzopreme said:
dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...
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It's nice to know that you guys are hear to help. I posted this in the Q&A you know since it is a question. It seems that you have forgotten you were once new at this as well.

Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.

[READ] Stop asking about JB ROMs and anything related to JB updates..

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Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.
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questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem

Dqm56 said:
questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem
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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.

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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.
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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.

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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.
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Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.

jbrooks58 said:
Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.
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Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses

Haha...
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Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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I see both sides of this coin, since i kinda just went through the same thing. I understand that he was just asking a question, but on the other hand there are probably over 10 discussions with the answer he is looking for.
But on the other hand, you are newer than me even, so welcome to the community, try to read and search before asking questions, and try not to double post either, just edit your last post if no one has replied.

Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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The name calling is uncalled for, especially when you're taking advantage of the work that these people are putting in. This community has enough negativity as it is, and we certainly don't need any more.
Egos aside we're all on the same team here. Either appreciate the work or give constructive advice/suggestions. Enough of the insulting.
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Also, alot of the reason we only have 2 roms was because we were stuck on ICS. Not many people want to develop on an older OS, expecially when we knew there was an update right around the corner. So it was the waiting game. Now that JB has been released, and the source code has been dropped, this place will start lighting up. This is one of the best phones out right now, and it will start getting attention. So for now, research, read, contribute what you can, and enjoy the ride.

In all honesty none of those thread touch on how close we are to being AOSP, so his question is relevant. In every thread you get the same answer, either "we have already answered that question", "when it is fully ready to go", "were still testing things so it's going to be a few more weeks". I want to make it clear that I'm not complaining, And am very happy with what you guys are doing, but if we had a little better information about what is going on and what the problems are maybe people would stop posting so much.

If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.

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If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.
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Do that, or msg me at [email protected]. I have most of the Debs contact info, and I usually stay up to date.
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