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Just a forum tip

I think the development section after selecting it should then have sections for EACH version rom. ie. Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS.
So that when you are looking at what is being developed you are not diluted with newer releases of older versions when you are really trying to find the best of a specific version.
This would allow it to be more organized.

+1 Would save a lot of confusion for noobs as well. Specific mods for specific version go in that section and so on and so forth .. yeah. Like it.

well there is only gingerbread and ICS, some mods are universal so you would have to post twice? and would you split up the theme and apps section too?

Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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This
People have trouble following the current organizational scheme

shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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Like how this topic is in the wrong section.
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This idea is irrelevant because all people have to do is read. Even if the Title doesn't say the firmware version, the OP will 9 times out of 10.
The thought is good, but in reality.....nah bro
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Why the hell not? Even if the
OP does contain the firmware version, it would stop a lot of the confusion for the noobs that don't read. As for people that DO read, it would be convenient to go in a section with, say, just ICS ROMs, to check out the latest goodies instead of having to look through all the GB ROMs and other things that aren't ICS related.
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If people don't read And flash and destroy....it's their fault.. There are already "please read if you're new" posts or "if you're new to ICS" posts. If people are lazy and disregard proper guided precautions to help inform everybody before they start messing with expensive phones....then a bricked phone is what you'll get.
I don't cater to the weak and lazy.
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If this was implemented does anyone want to start a pool on how long it will take before a dev gets flamed for not posting in the right section

Funny thing is the noob want to jump straight in and flash and screw things up then freak out then read lol
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This Nobama entitlement mentality gets old.....fast!
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Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.

Jester6 said:
Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.
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Oh god this is so true.

Now girls
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I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
my .02

Oh boo hoo those poor noobs we need to hand them step by steps and make sure that everyone has the opportunity to flash rooms! Rom flashing is a basic human right and every American should get it free of hassle!
I say the free account registration inhibits minorities like the computer illiterate and old people, we should abolish this account registration so everyone has the opportunity to post anything!
In fact those poor souls who brick their phones should get new ones for free, I mean the developers get donations so they should spread the wealth around it would be better for everyone!
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Darmokk said:
I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
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I find it hard to believe clutter is the reason dumb threads are started.
Raise your hand if you have seen someone post a question or news item that has already been posted less than 5 threads down in the first page of general at the time of posting.
*raises hand*

Forums sections are well explained and disclosed, even if people rant and flame at noobs, it is still a noob friendly atmosphere here, the problem also is that devs and senior members still repeat themselves overe and over trying to help noobs and besides alot of members on xda are just too lazy to read, only screwing up people learn to either not to touch or mess with something they shouldn't have mess with in first place, nobody was born knowing all, yet nobody was born brainless, if people screw up after so many threads of guides and how to's lost in limbo around the forums, let them screw up, imbeciles only see the finger that is pointig the right direction.
If stickies, guides and bibles haven't helped, it is useless to clutter this forums with more subforums
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Bottom line is everyone here was a noob...somewhere at sometime. All everyone needs to do is read people with respect and not flame.
"f_ing noob, learn to search" I'd not the way to fix things
Would you yell at a child for doing something when its an innocent mistake. I'm not saying all noobs are innocent...but you catch more flies with honey then vinegar
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Xda members read!!!

I am dissapointed to say that xda has fallen off, it used to be a great community where people could come and learn and others share their knowledge. Now its just a bunch of snobs not willing to help someone instead just bash someone for being a "NOOB" thats just b.s and i didnt pay for something to get bashed on buying this app is contributing to android. Its just embarrasing being part of a community like this idk what happened or when it happened but i wish people would get off the rag and reach out to others in time of help instead of being arrogant pricks about simple things, this isnt a rant its just a persons opinions on whats been happening if you dont like it then f**** off im only trying to figure out why, with that being said
WHATS THE DEAL XDA????
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You're always going to have ass holes making ass hole comments. I remember it going back to when I joined. As xda gains in popularity you get more and more people a certain percentage of those people will be ass holes......
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bfranklin1986 said:
You're always going to have ass holes making ass hole comments. I remember it going back to when I joined. As xda gains in popularity you get more and more people a certain percentage of those people will be ass holes......
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Well of course, and you'll also get a higher percentage of people that don't give two ****s to spend five minutes searching for an answer to their problem and just want to ask away. In the galaxy nexus forums it's the worst because people will ask questions that have been answered when they're on the SAME PAGE as the question they're asking.

most aren't A Holes just because they like to be, almost half of them are fed up and tired of lazy people. It's like working on the same exact issue over and over and over... Unfortunately both parties are right when there are always going to be lazies, and the A Holes. If it's that simple of an answer and I know has been answered/discussed about 5 times or more, I'll just ignore as most will do, or answer by linking them to all the threads about the same topic. Ya it's a little on the A Hole side, but it also answers their questions and tells them how easy and informative searching can be.

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What's the deal with people that post questions that are often posted already? Or even Googling answers? WHATS THE DEAL THERE TOO???
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This story will never end. It's just the way it is. Either you ignore those who bash and move on or do a little hw before posting a question that has been answered multiple times. The G2x section was filled with repeated questions. Personally I get annoyed and irritated after a while.
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As do I! More irritating is when you try to help them help themselves and they think you're slamming them for being a noob.
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my favorite part is how everyone is bashing people who don't use the search function, yet there's like 90 threads that talk about how XDA isn't how it used to be and here is yet another thread about it
The reason everyone thinks XDA is "not like it used to be" is because the developer to user ratio has been diluted as XDA gains popularity. There are the same number of devs on this site as there's always been (probably more, actually), but there's waaaaaaay more users interested in rooting their phones and flashing custom firmware.
No internet community is perfect, and gigantic ones like this are going to have their problems...but the true XDAers suck it up, move on, ignore the jerks, and do what they came here to do. they certainly don't sit and complain about it.

@sisekickSquad817, It can be tough to get answers to your questions at times, and there are definitely users that are nicer about it then others. Here's my suggestion, send a couple of friend requests to the users that you speak with the most. Send me a friend request, and while I'm no developer, if I can't answer your question then I'll probably be able to point you in the direction of someone who can. Just PM me with your question, and as soon as I have a free moment then I'll do my best to help. Soon you'll find you have a few solid friends, and those friends will have a few solid friends, and the answers will be at your finger tips with a little patience. I know things can be frustrating, but threads like this can bring unwanted attention from the not so nice users, and then the mods get involved. Its probably best to avoid situations like that, or at least that's my opinion. Good Luck and I look forward to hearing from you

I've noticed this as well and I've been wondering when someone was going to make a thread about it.
I'll just add my plea for civility. Everybody was a noob at one time.
Back in the vibrant forum everybody tended to be very friendly. Let's try to keep it friendly here too.

You can't change anything, so why ***** about it, just give help to the users who have at least tried to read. Most ALL the answers are there anyway. If you watch, the people who are just looking for a quick answer post the same thing over an over. And in different forums. Saw one idiot post the same post in 5 different forums. 3G user asking questions in the mt4g forum. Moron.
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Good response to the ops question. I'm here too for anything I can help. But all users in xda must really understand that if your going to participate you need to read and and comprehend basic terms or follow instructions. Now sometimes you won't find something and that's ok you can ask. But there is a section for everything and many users don't care enough to see that. This is why the majority of people will be d**ks with you.
Not mainly because you ask a question in the wrong sectionbut because if the answer is obvious to the majority of users than it must be something you are missing. If you know android think of this like your debugging something. The error is clear just for back and start slowly this time.
There's a place for everything. Including xda.
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I've noticed this too. I originally joined about three years ago ( this is a new account because I hated my old username) and have noticed both an increase in noobs and assholes. However, it isn't as bad as some of the Mustang forums I lurk. Most of those guys are total douches.
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jnewman1991 said:
I've noticed this too. I originally joined about three years ago ( this is a new account because I hated my old username) and have noticed both an increase in noobs and assholes. However, it isn't as bad as some of the Mustang forums I lurk. Most of those guys are total douches.
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As a former camaro owner, I completely agree that mustang owners are douches
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This topic has been discussed one million times. Stop creating useless threads covering issues that have been beaten to death. If you would bother to search, you'd find that this topic has been discussed countless times already, noob. Go post in one of those threads instead of wasting space here.
This thread doesn't even ****ing belong in this forum section. It has nothing to do with the SGS3. NOTHING.

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This topic has been discussed one million times. Stop creating useless threads covering issues that have been beaten to death. If you would bother to search, you'd find that this topic has been discussed countless times already, noob. Go post in one of those threads instead of wasting space here.
This thread doesn't even ****ing belong in this forum section. It has nothing to do with the SGS3. NOTHING.
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I think you just perfectly made the OPs point.......
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Exactly, no point in posting if ur just gonna be a **** about it, if it doesn't belong in this area *****ing about it won't move it. I got my point across so that's all I have to say about it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982&page=5
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34664900
Look before posting.
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Im reporting you for consistently making worthless threads. This is called trolling and is against the rules.
Not only do you post worthless topics but you also post things that are not safe to flash in these forums. You have done this in the past and I will let the moderators deal with you
If you do not understand what is going on or do not understand english DO NOT POST THINGS THAT CAN DAMAGE OTHERS PHONES OR PROPERTY
I mean why are you posting stuff like this?
You were posting roms for other phones in here a couple weeks ago! Get out
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ssCISengineer said:
Im reporting you for consistently making worthless threads. This is called trolling and is against the rules.
Not only do you post worthless topics but you also post things that are not safe to flash in these forums. You have done this in the past and I will let the moderators deal with you
If you do not understand what is going on or do not understand english DO NOT POST THINGS THAT CAN DAMAGE OTHERS PHONES OR PROPERTY
I mean why are you posting stuff like this?
You were posting roms for other phones in here a couple weeks ago! Get out
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What are you talking about? This has been tried an tested on the T-mobile Note 2. Is it really necessary for every single one of your posts to be negative? It seems to me that you have some real life self esteem issues and come online to be billy bad ass to make up for it.

What im talkimg about is that you need to see his post history. And youre only saying that because I hit the button on you too...for spamming private message boxes....remember?
The fact of the matter is not that I made a negative post. Its that this is a forum for development of software for mobile devices and he repeatwdly posts either nonsensical or meaningless threads.
But YOU always show up trying to save someone. VIIRUS, and now this guy.Why dont you just check his threads and every single person says the same thing.
But it seems you suffer from the same affliction as he. You are incapable of investigating anything before you go tap tap tapping on that keyboard.
Do I need to post the links for you?
You guys just dont want to hear the truth because you know ill get around to one of you later on and it scares you.
You need to focus more on the galaxy note 2 in these forums, and less on spamming mailboxes, trying to save people on these forums, and way way less on psychology.
Or if things like 'feelings' and other people 'emotions' are really of interest to you there are certainly forums that you can register to be a part of that community. Here are some I found for you
www.depressionforums.org/forums/.../ ...
www.pmscentral.com/forum
What you are missing is that this is not the post whatever you want forum. Do you really want to sift through crap like that when you come to xda? I mean he posts in the development forums sometimes....ugh im done trying to explain anything to you. Check those links out
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Spamming private messages? You'll get around to me too? You are a nutcase. You pm'd me. You are like that whiny little **** that begged the teacher to be a hall monitor. You aren't a mod and you don't have to post your dumbass comments to report a thread. And yes, I know. You are going to report this post. Good for you buddy.
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ssCISengineer said:
Im reporting you for consistently making worthless threads. This is called trolling and is against the rules.
Not only do you post worthless topics but you also post things that are not safe to flash in these forums. You have done this in the past and I will let the moderators deal with you
If you do not understand what is going on or do not understand english DO NOT POST THINGS THAT CAN DAMAGE OTHERS PHONES OR PROPERTY
I mean why are you posting stuff like this?
You were posting roms for other phones in here a couple weeks ago! Get out
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No my friend as a matter of fact you are the troll. You "troll" this forum looking for people who make stupid posts and try to call them out. Instead of trying to monitor what everyone is doing why don't you just let the idiotic posts bury themselves. This is what we have been doing for years here on XDA. A "forum vigilante" such as yourself isn't going to change things. So take a moment, relax, and move on
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[Off-topic] If you see a member of higher ranks, do you instantly have more respect?

Hey guys.
I've been thinking about this, and it got me wondering..
If you see someone with a Recognized Contributor title, Recognized Developer title, or anything else higher than 'senior member' do you find yourself having more respect for those types of people versus a senior member telling you something? This applies to questions being answered, opinions, or any other given situation. If this thread gets 'popular' I'll throw up a poll.
Also, please do us all a favor and elaborate on the reason(s) why you said yes, no, or anything of the like.
Thanks!
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So long as the answer applies to the question asked, no

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So long as the answer applies to the question asked, no
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What do you mean by that, and why?
Also forgot to mention people should elaborate. My bad, editing the OP now..
Edit: OP=edited
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Basically, if someone posts a question and it's answered properly I don't care if the answer came from a n00b or an RC. I'd be more inclined to accept an RC answer than a lesser rank if there was some doubt, though

EddyOS said:
Basically, if someone posts a question and it's answered properly I don't care if the answer came from a n00b or an RC. I'd be more inclined to accept an RC answer than a lesser rank if there was some doubt, though
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Okay, your last sentence was the initial I was looking for. You make an awesome point though man!
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MBQsniper said:
Hey guys.
I've been thinking about this, and it got me wondering..
If you see someone with a Recognized Contributor title, Recognized Developer title, or anything else higher than 'senior member' do you find yourself having more respect for those types of people versus a senior member telling you something? This applies to questions being answered, opinions, or any other given situation. If this thread gets 'popular' I'll throw up a poll.
Also, please do us all a favor and elaborate on the reason(s) why you said yes, no, or anything of the like.
Thanks!
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I find myself looking at that a lot, actually. Especially if there are conflicting answers from different ranks.

EddyOS said:
Basically, if someone posts a question and it's answered properly I don't care if the answer came from a n00b or an RC. I'd be more inclined to accept an RC answer than a lesser rank if there was some doubt, though
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Exactly what he said. *footnote being there are lots of senior members that if you look at their info have been members since 2007 but have very little posts and thanks. And their questions or answers very often reflect that. So I tend to look at that as well when trying to decide if I'm going to take their opinion seriously or as pertinent as someone else.
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02ranger said:
I find myself looking at that a lot, actually. Especially if there are conflicting answers from different ranks.
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It seems like the higher ranks get more respect
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Interesting question..
Usually respect comes out of combination of their rank, number of posts and thanks.
Also when you follow particular threads like a hawk, the members worth respecting are visible on every next page.
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I will say, I never look at the 'Thanks Meter'. If you need a signature with 'If I've helped, click thanks' then you're just out for the numbers...

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I will say, I never look at the 'Thanks Meter'. If you need a signature with 'If I've helped, click thanks' then you're just out for the numbers...
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Hahahah, that's so true.
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I mostly always use xda app so ranks/posts/thanks aren't readily visible, but even when they are known I simply respect those that are respectful. On my last phones forum I lost quite a bit of respect for some of the devs actually just for their portrayed superior attitudes. If you don't like someone coming in and asking a repeat question (which I do understand can be frustrating) just ignore them, all the flaming just intensifies the problem.
I also agree about signatures asking for thanks, while I enjoy seeing my thanks meter go up it doesn't actually mean anything in the grand scheme of things. And while I'll still give a thanks if I appreciate the post, I'm less inclined too when the person asks for it.
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Hell no thanks don't matter. Anyone who's ever been to OT knows that the number of thanks a member has doesn't have anything to do with how knowledgeable they are.
As far as a contributor or dev, I don't judge somebody by the color of their name, I'm not a namecist.
Anyways the majority of posts and questions are more user related, so they do not require someone with vast knowledge of coding/themeing/etc. Anyone can answer a thread like HLP BATTRY FUUUU!, not just a "higher ranked user".

Having all of the requirements and becoming recognized should grant that user immediate respect. Devs too.
Users with hella post and thanks have probably seen a thing or two so they get respect but you gotta watch some of em lol

I wouldn't "instantly" respect anyone. Respect isn't something that should be just given away, people who actually deserve it get it.

Well yeah I guess. Only higher than me is RD, RC and Moderator. Senior Member status is earned by such a small amount of posts that I think it should be raised to 1,000 posts. It should be something that takes longer to achieve.

Thanks for all of your responses guys!
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i look at EVERYTHING. sig, info in the sig, posts, thanks(meaning what you were thanked for), join date and then i'll also look at past posts ... ESPECIALLY if the person is trolling. even if it wasnt intentional trolling.
there are some people tho that have 10k posts because all they post is "SEARCH" ten times or bump their friends threads all the time. and then thats why they have 100k thanks. that person i will flame til deaths end and its because they are the people that are detrimental to this community. I admit my stats arent the greatest here but mostly because i have been using forums for the past ten years and have decided I have better things in my life to pick on people that are on the internet. I am here to help people out.
thanks mbq likin this post

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I don't necessarily automatically respect them, I just use the title and post count as a quick gauge of whether I should trust their opinion. That being said, I've seen a lot of people (like ben.nesheim said) that pad their post count with useless crap. There are a lot of people here that I know have high post counts that I don't trust on anything, and dread seeing their name in a thread. Then there are others that only have hundreds of posts (sometimes less) that are the most helpful and knowledgable people you'll find, they just don't post drivel. I think the title and post count are great quick indicators, but nothing more. Once you get into recognized developer or contributor territory, I give them a little more credit right off, but to me the respect still has to be earned.
And like EddyOS said, the signature tells you a LOT about a person. I make it a point not to hit the thanks button if your signature asks for it. We all know why its there, you don't need to remind me.

To all devs

I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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djtheraven said:
I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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djtheraven said:
The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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djtheraven said:
I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?

algorhythm said:
Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Very well said
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.

So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.