A friend has had the Incredible since release. I have the EVO (also since release) and I rooted mine the day I got it. Since that time I've been attempting to convince my buddy to root his phone. I've almost got him to agree to do it (actually, I'll be doing it for him) so I've been doing a bit of research on the Incredible. I got the root method down http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-incredible-hacks/102748-how-root-stock-2-2-using-unrevoked-3-3-a.html if anyone has a different suggestion, please let me know.
I've also looked through the roms available and there is a very good selection but I think that SkyRaider Sense 3.5 probably looks like the best option for him. I know the suggestion of "try a few and see what you like" but the problem with that is that he just wants something that works and he doesn't have to mess with. His biggest complaint is battery life and I'm sure, just as with my EVO, that any rom would be an improvement over stock in that respect.
What I'm looking for is the closest to the stock experience with a focus on stability. For anyone familiar with the EVO roms, I've been primarily using Fresh (although, currently running CM7 )since I got my phone and I'd like to find something along the same lines.
I know this was long, I hate reading long posts, but thank you in advance to whomever could give a bit of advice.
P.S. He was all excited with the iPhone announcement and I'm doing my best to show him the benefits of Android over iOS.
Edit: I also noticed that there is a leaked kernel running around. I noticed that the most recent OTA was in November and I was thinking that there might be another fairly soon. Considering that he doesn't want to have to mess with things and update things, I was thinking that it might be better to wait till after the roms get updated to the next OTA before flashing one for him. Does anyone have any information on if and when a new OTA for the Incredible might be released?
In my opinion, you're right. SkyRaider Sense 3.5 would be great, that's what I'm running and it is unbelievably stable.
setexascustoms said:
In my opinion, you're right. SkyRaider Sense 3.5 would be great, that's what I'm running and it is unbelievably stable.
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Thanks for the reply. 2 questions: 1) how's the battery life? 2) I noticed in the screen shots that the 3G Mobile Hotspot app was still in there. Did he mod it to work without any extra fees? Is there a benefit to using it over using Wireless Tether (which is what I use on my EVO)? I noticed that as late as v3.3 he included Wireless Tether.
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Thanks for the reply. 2 questions: 1) how's the battery life? 2) I noticed in the screen shots that the 3G Mobile Hotspot app was still in there. Did he mod it to work without any extra fees? Is there a benefit to using it over using Wireless Tether (which is what I use on my EVO)? I noticed that as late as v3.3 he included Wireless Tether.
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This is pretty good too. It gets pretty good battery life (although I am on an extended battery so your results may vary)
The main draw there is all the optimizations on it, the thing is fast.
It's also been very stable for me.
I haven't really liked the built in 3g hotspot, Wireless Tether has been faster and more reliable for me
Battery life is very good, and it actually doesn't include mobile hotspot. He includes WiFi tether, but it has the mobile hotspot icon.
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Battery life is very good, and it actually doesn't include mobile hotspot. He includes WiFi tether, but it has the mobile hotspot icon.
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Thanks. I know someone on the EVO section cracked the Sprint hotspot app so I wasn't sure if it was the same deal. Personally, I think wireless tether is better anyway.
Yeah, there's a work around for the Verizon Mobile Hotspot. However, wifi tether works great and I'd rather just avoid verizon all together.
It always starts out peaceful enough....
@ OP: The reason we close what's referred to as "Best ROM Threads" is because the vast majority of the type end up a nasty flame fest. The reasons should be obvious. It's really a matter of opinion, and then you get the fanboys of certain devs chiming in, and well, you get it. You did nothing wrong. My advice is to read, try a few, then make that decision for yourself. It's easy to find the most popular ATM, because they stay on page 1 of the dev sub. That doesn't necessarily make it the best, however. Give some a shot and see what's best for you. Enjoy the forums.
@ OPX2: Got your PM. I'll reopen and give it a chance. Let this serve as a warning as to the future of this thread.
Thread reopened.
@ OPX2: Got your PM. I'll reopen and give it a chance. Let this serve as a warning as to the future of this thread.
Thread reopened.
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I appreciate it and I am aware of the issues in threads titled like this, that's why I fully explained the situation in the OP.
SkyRaider 3.5 Sense, with my theme of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919027
ACD168 said:
SkyRaider 3.5 Sense, with my theme of coarse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919027
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I actually really do like that, very nicely done. Still has that stock feel but just tastefully modified. First thing I noticed was the Gingerbread feel to the status bar and then I read the OP and saw that's what you were going for. I'm currently using CM7 on my EVO and one of the things I really like about it are the green accents.
Question though: I know the power control widgets in the notification tray can be modified, would it still keep the same theme if I were to change them up? (something like the orientation button, I think a flashlight or bluetooth button might be more useful in that spot)
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I actually really do like that, very nicely done. Still has that stock feel but just tastefully modified. First thing I noticed was the Gingerbread feel to the status bar and then I read the OP and saw that's what you were going for. I'm currently using CM7 on my EVO and one of the things I really like about it are the green accents.
Question though: I know the power control widgets in the notification tray can be modified, would it still keep the same theme if I were to change them up? (something like the orientation button, I think a flashlight or bluetooth button might be more useful in that spot)
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Thanks man! I really appreciate it. You can change the toggles no problem and the theme will stay, let me know if you don't know how to change them
Bad News on the Skyraider front
Sorry to be the bearer, but the developer of SR has posted that he will no longer be developing the ROM. No further updates... He has done an amazing job, but unfortunately, personal issues stepped in the way.
drtomc said:
Sorry to be the bearer, but the developer of SR has posted that he will no longer be developing the ROM. No further updates... He has done an amazing job, but unfortunately, personal issues stepped in the way.
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That is unfortunate, thanks for the info. It does look like a good rom but I would be looking for something that was actively being updated so thanks.
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That is unfortunate, thanks for the info. It does look like a good rom but I would be looking for something that was actively being updated so thanks.
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Right here I'd say Magnolia would probably be your best bet, even if only because it's being actively updated; it's fast, it's stable, and the time I've spent with it gave the impression of giving good battery life
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Right here I'd say Magnolia would probably be your best bet, even if only because it's being actively updated; it's fast, it's stable, and the time I've spent with it gave the impression of giving good battery life
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yeah, I definitely might be leaning more toward that. 2 questions though:
1) Do you know if the 2.6.32.17 kernel is the latest official? I was looking at the list of kernels and it was dated from October. I know there was an Incredible OTA in November, just wondering if you knew if that was the same kernel in that OTA. Just wondering in case I want to revert to stock from the modified version that's included with the ROM.
2) I noticed in the screen shots there was a notification bar power and control widget with a planet for it's icon, is that mobile data? From left to right they are WiFi, Bluetooth, I believe mobile data, GPS, screen brightness, and sound control.
Not sure about the first one but the second is correct
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Incredibly re-engineered 2.2 or 2.0 ROM is great for me....
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Due to a recent little issue I am having I am doing a clean sweep of my HTC Incredible.
I am currently on CM7, with radio .28 , rooted , unrevoked forever, busybox... you know... things and stuff and things...
I am looking for suggestions for what I should do next.
What ROM?
What Kernel?
What Radio?
I am going on a LONG plane trip very soon so maximizing battery life would be nice without sacrificing too much in the way of power. Or heck, go for max power and show me how to REALLY crank this thing up. Just go with what you feel is the optimal setup so I can give it a try. Thanks for your input!
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Due to a recent little issue I am having I am doing a clean sweep of my HTC Incredible.
I am currently on CM7, with radio .28 , rooted , unrevoked forever, busybox... you know... things and stuff and things...
I am looking for suggestions for what I should do next.
What ROM?
What Kernel?
What Radio?
I am going on a LONG plane trip very soon so maximizing battery life would be nice without sacrificing too much in the way of power. Or heck, go for max power and show me how to REALLY crank this thing up. Just go with what you feel is the optimal setup so I can give it a try. Thanks for your input!
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Rom-Incredible Reingeneered Z
kernel-Whatever comes with the rom
raido-stock
JoelZ9614 said:
Rom-Incredible Reingeneered Z
kernel-Whatever comes with the rom
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*points at* Stalking me! But... With your input, I kinda like it... lol
I wasn't aware of the fact that ROMs actually flashed the kernel as well. I thought that the kernel was something lower than the rom. As for "stock" radio, I can only seem to find posts on modded ones. Any idea as to where I can snag the original one? Thanks!
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*points at* Stalking me! But... With your input, I kinda like it... lol
I wasn't aware of the fact that ROMs actually flashed the kernel as well. I thought that the kernel was something lower than the rom. As for "stock" radio, I can only seem to find posts on modded ones. Any idea as to where I can snag the original one? Thanks!
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lol you could call it stalking i call it the droid incredible forums are getting kind of quiet i can even hear an echo in here lol. It doesn't matter what radio but now that i think about it you should try the new evo leaked radio its sumwere in the developement thread search the first two pages and you'l find it as for incredible reingeered z v1.2 http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=449
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lol you could call it stalking i call it the droid incredible forums are getting kind of quiet i can even hear an echo in here lol. It doesn't matter what radio but now that i think about it you should try the new evo leaked radio its sumwere in the developement thread search the first two pages and you'l find it as for incredible reingeered z v1.2
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Huh , I'm only seeing the reingeered z v1.1 at their site/forum. Is your 1.2 a typo or am I at the wrong place (theMikMik.com ) ?
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Huh , I'm only seeing the reingeered z v1.1 at their site/forum. Is your 1.2 a typo or am I at the wrong place (theMikMik.com ) ?
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link in the post above yours.....^
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link in the post above yours.....^
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035955 <--- That be the link of which you speak?
Should I do the ROM first or the Radio? Or does it really not matter?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035955 <--- That be the link of which you speak?
Should I do the ROM first or the Radio? Or does it really not matter?
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yea dat raido but i dont much care for flashing radios i still have stock.
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What Radio?
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I'm basically gonna give you my set up because it works for me and I'm all about stability
CM7
Incredikernel
2.15.00.09.01 (Works for me around Greater Los Angeles Area)
Hope this helps
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I'm basically gonna give you my set up because it works for me and I'm all about stability
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2.15.00.09.01 (Works for me around Greater Los Angeles Area)
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^ ^
This is a popular setup because of how smooth chad's kernel and CM7 works together.
9.01 is better on the battery, however 4.08 provides faster 3G speeds (in my numerous testing between them)
WWW.dougpiston.com for your radio needs. I believe he has all of them on the site. Or his app, I think its called Inc bits?
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Well i'm surprised at the amount of replies this has gotten. I've already done the first guy's suggestion and I will say it's pretty snappy. I am doing backups of each setup idea and will post my thoughts on each one.
The first one with Rom-Incredible Reingeneered Z is really quick to respond and has lots of nice features. I'm just not crazy about sense is all. I'd like to smash this with an AOSP ROM for the gallery, launcher, and graphical effects that something like CyanogenMod has. However... I suppose the "Pretty effects" are what causes it to not respond AS quickly. For sure it's being saved away for further toying with ( yay for 16gb memory card! lol )
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Well i'm surprised at the amount of replies this has gotten. I've already done the first guy's suggestion and I will say it's pretty snappy. I am doing backups of each setup idea and will post my thoughts on each one.
The first one with Rom-Incredible Reingeneered Z is really quick to respond and has lots of nice features. I'm just not crazy about sense is all. I'd like to smash this with an AOSP ROM for the gallery, launcher, and graphical effects that something like CyanogenMod has. However... I suppose the "Pretty effects" are what causes it to not respond AS quickly. For sure it's being saved away for further toying with ( yay for 16gb memory card! lol )
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great it worked i've heard its pretty good i need to try it out sometime because warm z is getting a little to slow for my liking. I personally love sense because of all its features.
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Well i'm surprised at the amount of replies this has gotten. I've already done the first guy's suggestion and I will say it's pretty snappy. I am doing backups of each setup idea and will post my thoughts on each one.
The first one with Rom-Incredible Reingeneered Z is really quick to respond and has lots of nice features. I'm just not crazy about sense is all. I'd like to smash this with an AOSP ROM for the gallery, launcher, and graphical effects that something like CyanogenMod has. However... I suppose the "Pretty effects" are what causes it to not respond AS quickly. For sure it's being saved away for further toying with ( yay for 16gb memory card! lol )
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I'm not sure what graphic effects you're looking for, but Cyanogen has the fancy TV-off animation and when paired with ADW EX, you have fancy screen transitions as well. BTW, CyanogenMod 7.0.2 just came out, I'm flashing it now, I'll see if it's as stable as the latest nightlies.
EDIT: Seems that video recording isn't working on 7.0.2, I'm going with nightly #56.
Hey can anyone post a direct link for mik froyo incredibly reinginerred rom z v1.2 beta because when i go to the site it take forever to load even though i have already made an account.
great it worked i've heard its pretty good i need to try it out sometime because warm z is getting a little to slow for my liking. I personally love sense because of all its features.
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I feel used! I'm not your guinea pig! lol XD I thought that was a setup you liked/used! LMAO
I'm not sure what graphic effects you're looking for, but Cyanogen has the fancy TV-off animation and when paired with ADW EX, you have fancy screen transitions as well. BTW, CyanogenMod 7.0.2 just came out, I'm flashing it now, I'll see if it's as stable as the latest nightlies.
EDIT: Seems that video recording isn't working on 7.0.2, I'm going with nightly #56.
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Check this out, it MAY help ( not sure ) http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/19681-video-recording-function-crashes-phone-solved/
I'm assuming 7.0.2 and 7.0.0 aren't THAT different that the solution wouldn't work anymore. However, I've been wrong before. I am flashing 7.0.2 and trying the second suggestion's setup and seeing how that goes for me. I will keep you posted!
Hm, it seems weird that the radio would affect the camera but hey if it works! Also I know some people use the MIUI camera, perhaps video recording works on that? Let us know how 7.0.2 works out. I rarely ever record video but like to have it available if needed.
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I feel used! I'm not your guinea pig! lol XD I thought that was a setup you liked/used! LMAO
Check this out, it MAY help ( not sure ) http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/19681-video-recording-function-crashes-phone-solved/
I'm assuming 7.0.2 and 7.0.0 aren't THAT different that the solution wouldn't work anymore. However, I've been wrong before. I am flashing 7.0.2 and trying the second suggestion's setup and seeing how that goes for me. I will keep you posted!
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not really my guinea pig cause i have used it but not really extensively for a long period of time so i didn't know how people did with it for a long period of time. This was my setup for like 2 hours a week ago. I just didn't enjoy all the theming but im going to try to untheme everyhting and make it an odex theme. sorry if you felt used.
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not really my guinea pig cause i have used it but not really extensively for a long period of time so i didn't know how people did with it for a long period of time. This was my setup for like 2 hours a week ago. I just didn't enjoy all the theming but im going to try to untheme everyhting and make it an odex theme. sorry if you felt used.
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Oh no hard feelings, just thought it was funny is all. Literally it made me LOL a little bit. Just like "Really? REALLY now?" I suppose since you didn't brick my phone with this, I can trust any further ideas or suggestion's you got.
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Oh no hard feelings, just thought it was funny is all. Literally it made me LOL a little bit. Just like "Really? REALLY now?" I suppose since you didn't brick my phone with this, I can trust any further ideas or suggestion's you got.
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Lol sorry my current setup if you want to try (if you still trust me) lol is in my signature. and would you happen to have a direct link to the incredible reigninedd z because i deleted it off my laptop and when i try to load up the site it just takes ages.
I was watching a review today of Paranoid Android for the i9300 & it looked amazing! I've been enjoying the new TW ui, much to my surprise, so I've been taking advantage of its many new features, but tablet mode was looking so great on the 4.8 inch screen! I've only ever really tested it much on my old Sensation, but the smaller screen with the lesser resolution made it seem not so ideal. I really think it could take advantage of the beautiful bigger screen of the T999! It's so unique and it would give us a whole new way to use our phone. Does anyone know how to port this to our phone? Maybe someone here is friendly with the Paranoid Roms development team? Any ideas or insight?
PS: I've tried playing around with the dpi without much success . I couldn't seem to get the phone to behave as a tablet like with some other devices, and it didn't seem to be very stable after modifying it...
Hello, I too have a sensation and have just ordered the s3. It it a big improvement over the sensation?
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bobby915 said:
Hello, I too have a sensation and have just ordered the s3. It it a big improvement over the sensation?
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Oh God yes, lol! I was using the Sensation quite a bit before the gs3 was released because there's a lot of development & it can be a fun device to play with, but it's not worth comparing to the gs3. I'll probably always keep my sensation because I don't like to get rid of any of my phones, and I'm kind of a phone junkie, but it's been on loan to a friend for a few weeks now. The Gs3 will be a huge upgrade if the Sensation is the only phone you've been using.
It probably will get ported I also can't wait I used it on my galaxy nexus and love the Rom, the tablet ui is amazing and makes thin easier IMO
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Oh God yes, lol! I was using the Sensation quite a bit before the gs3 was released because there's a lot of development & it can be a fun device to play with, but it's not worth comparing to the gs3. I'll probably always keep my sensation because I don't like to get rid of any of my phones, and I'm kind of a phone junkie, but it's been on loan to a friend for a few weeks now. The Gs3 will be a huge upgrade if the Sensation is the only phone you've been using.
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Thanks! I look forward to getting the S3. sense is Eh.. i agree the development on it is great but i quickly got bored of it. Can't wait for something new !
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From what I have heard it should be a pretty easy port seeing as it's based off of cm9/10. I 'll probably give it a try tomorrow and upload a test build for you to try out, but im not making any promises because this week is busy for me.
EDIT: what one would you like me to try JB or ICS?
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From what I have heard it should be a pretty easy port seeing as it's based off of cm9/10. I 'll probably give it a try tomorrow and upload a test build for you to try out, but im not making any promises because this week is busy for me.
EDIT: what one would you like me to try JB or ICS?
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Well, if your asking what I personally would like, then you freakin" rock sir! I suppose if I were to choose which I'd like to see first it would be a cm9 base, simply because odds are it would be the most stable. A jb build would be incredible, but I generally only flash roms that are fully functional & can be used as a daily driver. I'm not the flashaholic I once was mostly because I don't have the time to be. If your able to get it booting & its stable that would be fantastic! I've personally always looked at PA as a rom that's more for something like the Note, but I think the gs3 is just large enough that I want to run with it & reinvent how I use my primary phone. If we get a 100% functional build, I may never look back, but like I said above, I've never really driven it hard before?
I got it booting but I have no signal wifi works though. I'm no dev so maybe someone can help me.
I have no signal cause it made me lose my IMEI
OK so I restored my Nandroid and I have my IMEI back. My IMEI said unknown in phone settings so im guessing that it was just the roms fault not a wiped IMEI? anyway here are some pics and I will upload the build. Root doesn't work as well as pad control but it's a start. Any dev is welcome to take this and use it to try and make it more functional.
DOWNLOAD LINK: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/91676924/PA-1.9.3a-20120801-UNOFFICIAL-d2tmo.zip
FLASH WITH CAUTION!!!!!
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PS: I've tried playing around with the dpi without much success . I couldn't seem to get the phone to behave as a tablet like with some other devices, and it didn't seem to be very stable after modifying it...
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Im pretty sure it's because the permissions aren't properly set for the pad.prop among others. I will have a look at the updater script tomorrow.
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OK so I restored my Nandroid and I have my IMEI back. My IMEI said unknown in phone settings so im guessing that it was just the roms fault not a wiped IMEI? anyway here are some pics and I will upload the build. Root doesn't work as well as pad control but it's a start. Any dev is welcome to take this and use it to try and make it more functional.
DOWNLOAD LINK: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/91676924/PA-1.9.3a-20120801-UNOFFICIAL-d2tmo.zip
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Wow Bro, that was fast! I know nothing about developing or porting, but I've just been starting to look into a few threads on the 101. It's definitely nothing that I'll pick up overnight, lol! Maybe if you post the build in development someone will work on it with you? I never thought I'd say this, but TW is running so smooth & has so many nice touches on FreeGS3 that I probably won't flash anything until this is running strong or a super stable Jellybean Rom of any flavor drops.
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Wow Bro, that was fast! I know nothing about developing or porting, but I've just been starting to look into a few threads on the 101. It's definitely nothing that I'll pick up overnight, lol! Maybe if you post the build in development someone will work on it with you? I never thought I'd say this, but TW is running so smooth & has so many nice touches on FreeGS3 that I probably won't flash anything until this is running strong or a super stable Jellybean Rom of any flavor drops.
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Ya I'm kind of a noob myself learning as I go.
I love PA! Hope you get some other devs to help you get this fully functional.
Once they finalize CM10, a port of JB PA would be awesome!
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OK so I restored my Nandroid and I have my IMEI back. My IMEI said unknown in phone settings so im guessing that it was just the roms fault not a wiped IMEI? anyway here are some pics and I will upload the build. Root doesn't work as well as pad control but it's a start. Any dev is welcome to take this and use it to try and make it more functional.
DOWNLOAD LINK: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/91676924/PA-1.9.3a-20120801-UNOFFICIAL-d2tmo.zip
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You should post this in the development section so you can get some developer help. :good:
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You should post this in the development section so you can get some developer help. :good:
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+1! When we get PA stable, that will get me away from FreeGS3 to check it out. Every day that I use FreeGS3 I fall more I think love with Red's tweaked TW build! I would run this on any device, there are alot of great features in TW now, & Red added even more. I love the tablet style apps though, they are so much more funtional. If I could keep a TW base, but get tablet mode for all my apps then that would be the perfect rom for me. I don't think that'll ever happen, so I'll have to run PA for a week once it's finished & see which I prefer.
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You should post this in the development section so you can get some developer help. :good:
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+1...pretty please
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Yes! Please keep working on this! I've been waiting for this ROM I used it on my vibrant before and loved it even on a small screen. This would be so much better! Thanks
Hit me on gtalk. Let's make this thing work.
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I see a few things that aren't perfect just looking through the zip. Wont know more until i get it flashed but this shouldn't be too difficult.
I fixed ril. But it broke boot.
Ril paths in build.prop should be
rild.libpath=/system/lib/libril-qc-qmi-1.so
rild.libargs=-d /dev/smd0
But somehow that breaks boot.
During my brother's birthday our parents offered us our very first android and smartphone, he took the HTC one X and I got the Samsung Galaxy S3 since both of us wants variety and preference and they both have excellent performance since they are on the top of the market but recently he has lag/slow issues with his HoX and I can't help but just watch from a distance (literally since he lives in the middle-east and I'm in south-east asia atm) since he is using Sense UI and I'm stuck with TouchWiz UI I can't help him anymore further than this so I'm making this thread.
I admit the SGS3 had lag and sluggish issues too at first that's why I got it fixed when I asked for help from the SGS3 forums section, where I removed S voice and turned off some unnecessary options that I never use (kies, nfc, account sync, motion activation, etc). Remember we both have the international versions of our respective phones and we both use SIM - free from any carrier and we are also non-rooted users. Is there any tips to make his phone faster? All I could do was to constantly advice him to keep clearing the ram and turn off apps he isn't using in the task manager since clicking the home button hides the apps in the background.
Even then he is having lag/slow issues, please get back to me asap so I can relay the necessary information to help him enjoy his HoX. Please do not make this into a SGS3 vs HoX comparison thread, please. I am sick and tired of fanboys from both sides debate endlessly. I am just here asking for help since he's 16 and never used an online forum before so I'm here on his behalf. I also told him to read and follow up this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603360 but is there anything more we can do?
Your first sentence made it a comparison thread. You could have gotten better responses without the needless SG3 promo.
On the unlikely chance that you are up to something other than an attempt at another comparison thread, I would say that he should flash a Rom with less Bells and whistles.
I don't seem to have this magic lag that only SG3 folk keep talking about.
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Rooting and flashing a ROM might do it, there is an add on called Ultra Smooth Rosie (its included in the ViperX ROM) that eliminates the micro lag generated by the Sense 3D animations.
However, before doing that (not sure if your brother doesnt want to mess with rooting/custom ROM s) ask him to install Apex Launcher from the Play Store as well as Home Switcher app.
With Apex Launcher I felt an increase in speed and completely eliminated the small lag I had with Sense. You might want to try it with your SGS3 as well.
Home Switcher app lets you switch between lauchers easily, in a way that you can use Sense or Apex at your convenience.
apallohadas said:
Your first sentence made it a comparison thread. You could have gotten better responses without the needless SG3 promo.
On the unlikely chance that you are up to something other than an attempt at another comparison thread, I would say that he should flash a Rom with less Bells and whistles.
I don't seem to have this magic lag that only SG3 folk keep talking about.
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I wasn't making a comparison thread and I had no intention to do so, I felt compelled to add a background story since most people on this part of the forum will acknowledge that I am an S3 user since my forum signature states so and they would think that I am lying about my brother's HoX which I am truthfully not however I appreciate the honest remarks but I do not want to start anything with you. The second paragraph was a hint to the other readers if there is anything similar that I can do for my brother's HoX like what I did with my SGS3 like turning off some settings that are factory default on which might cause the lag/slow issues.
Garoto1973 said:
Rooting and flashing a ROM might do it, there is an add on called Ultra Smooth Rosie (its included in the ViperX ROM) that eliminates the micro lag generated by the Sense 3D animations.
However, before doing that (not sure if your brother doesnt want to mess with rooting/custom ROM s) ask him to install Apex Launcher from the Play Store as well as Home Switcher app.
With Apex Launcher I felt an increase in speed and completely eliminated the small lag I had with Sense. You might want to try it with your SGS3 as well.
Home Switcher app lets you switch between lauchers easily, in a way that you can use Sense or Apex at your convenience.
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I am using the Nova launcher with my S3 will the Nova run with his HoX as well? since I'm not familiar with the Apex launcher but do thank you for the advice however if the launchers don't work I'll try to look up the roms you mentioned via root and I will ask him if he is willing to root regarding the risks of it. If anyone else has any ideas please do post further, thank you now all I can do is wait for him to get back from school since there is a 4 hour difference in time zones
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I am using the Nova launcher with my S3 will the Nova run with his HoX as well? since I'm not familiar with the Apex launcher but do thank you for the advice however if the launchers don't work I'll try to look up the roms you mentioned via root and I will ask him if he is willing to root regarding the risks of it. If anyone else has any ideas please do post further, thank you now all I can do is wait for him to get back from school since there is a 4 hour difference in time zones
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apex works fine. nova as well, tell him to try it. sense is heavy. if he still wants sense, tell him to try a few roms
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apex works fine. nova as well, tell him to try it. sense is heavy. if he still wants sense, tell him to try a few roms
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Can you please elaborate by what do you mean sense is heavy?
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Even then he is having lag/slow issues, please get back to me asap so I can relay the necessary information to help him enjoy his HoX. Please do not make this into a SGS3 vs HoX comparison thread, please. I am sick and tired of fanboys from both sides debate endlessly. I am just here asking for help since he's 16 and never used an online forum before so I'm here on his behalf. I also told him to read and follow up this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603360 but is there anything more we can do?
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The performance has greatly improved in the soon to be released 2.xx roms, tell him to wait a few weeks until the update is released
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Sense needs a lot of power and lags because the CPU (on stock ROMs) doesn't ramp up fast enough.
I'd just flash a ROM onto it. Mine runs 100% lag free now and smooth like the iPad, iPhone 4S and SGS III
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The performance has greatly improved in the soon to be released 2.xx roms, tell him to wait a few weeks until the update is released
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Is that the stock rom or the flash rom which requires rooting?
Flo95 said:
Sense needs a lot of power and lags because the CPU (on stock ROMs) doesn't ramp up fast enough.
I'd just flash a ROM onto it. Mine runs 100% lag free now and smooth like the iPad, iPhone 4S and SGS III
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You mean root it? which rom are we talking about?
P.S. thank you everyone for so much help, now all I have to do is wait for him and damn it I haven't seen him online yet due to time zone difference. Going to wait on the replies for the quotes I did then going to call it a day
As others have said, other launchers are lighter than sense, so will give a percieved speed boost. You will not be able to use the sense widgets though. They only work with sense.
This may get him through until the 4.0.4 updates start rolling out - hopefully just a few weeks.
I'd avoid killing background apps and trying to manage things manually. Android is very good at managing stuff itself - you can't do better. If you are always trying to close/ kill apps the.phone will just start them up from scratch when it needs them - which takes more power and battery. Leave them alone!
If you go down the root/ Rom route - please be careful. You can break the phone if you make a mistake. You will also lose access to official updates - you will need to rely on xda for roms and updates (though this is likely to be faster!)
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Flashing a rom is not extremely complicated but one needs to be sure to understand all the steps needed and why they are needed coming from a galaxy s2 myself it took me a week to read all the relevant threads as it needs some extra steps compared to flashing a Samsung phone.
If your brother is not into getting technical I would recommend he install apex or nova launcher (they are basically the same). The difference was amazing for me. In this way you he can wait for the next official update. It's true he will lose the ability to use sense widgets but there are very good alternative. There is even an app in this forum that enables you to use the iconic htc clock widget with apex or nova. Also, htc wallpapers are still available.
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Is that the stock rom or the flash rom which requires rooting?
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If you want it now you will need to root but the update will be released around aug 18th for international roms, so you won't need to root then and keep your warranty
i know the answer already.....depends on what u want.
but i want to know which is better for the following:
good battery life
great speed (the stock phone is already snappy enough...i dont see how that can be improved really..)
better volume
alot of customization (nav buttons, fast usb charge, etc..)
very stable in every for all the options...like stable wifi, bluetooth, gps and everything.
i noticed some of the ROMs have complaints on network speeds. i dont know enough about this whole thing to understand y the rom would effect that. but i would like to know which ones are best for a phone thats been purchased straight from the play store. right now i have liquid smooth rom. its pretty good. cant complain. but i dont think it has the increased volume option.
if all this has been discussed b4, im sorry but i couldnt find it.
also, some of the roms keep stating how they improved scrolling or made it any faster...i dont understand this....with stock JB rom just straight out of the box....how can u make it any smoother or faster....its practically at top speed limit. and smoother than this and ur gonna break some sort of laws of physics...i cant even tell the difference but my greedy side wants the best and fastest...just so my mind is at ease. lol anyway, any input would b greatly appreciated. thanks
Well stock rooted with tweaks is prolly the best look for a non themed debloated from with ram/build prop/ and unit.d tweaks
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You answered your own question. There is no best. So why again did you make this thread
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Zepius said:
You answered your own question. There is no best. So why again did you make this thread
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because i hate pandas.
some roms are less stable than others. maybe u know which combo would fit my needs best.
sigh another one of these...
stock is most stable
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because i hate pandas.
some roms are less stable than others. maybe u know which combo would fit my needs best.
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give rasbeanjelly a try. btw, i hate those pandas too
Yeah, what Darunion said, stock is most stable. If you want tons of customizations options try AOKP.
Yes stock is the most stable. But I can suggest you Paranoid Rom.
Like you said, there's no best. But here's a little list of ROMs that I would like to shout out.
AOKP- Most customizable imo. Also unicorns!
Codenameandroid- Also another very customizable ROM.
CM10- Really stable and fast.
Paranoid Android- Hybrid mode. Makes the apps of the phone super customizable
Baked- Inverted. Theoretically gives more battery life, because of the black theme.
Stock- Most stable.
Have a good day
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sigh another one of these...
stock is most stable
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take it easy brah
and to everyone else, thank you very much. u have been MOST helpful. saved me a ton of time on research with trial and error, which would have wasted a ton of my time. better to get the info out of people who have first hand experience in that. instead of researching for hours, i instead went and killed a few more pandas. again, thanks guys. seriously.
im gonna assume that the roms that u listed at the bottom are probably the "gooder" ones of the rest. so i wont bother with anything else...im gonna give these a try.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6Cw_3q1Pg&feature=player_detailpage#t=8s
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Give Liquid a try.
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Give Liquid a try.
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thats what im using now. its not bad at all. the only issue i have i guess is that i dont think that rom has its own volume mod. so i flashed a seperate kernel that had that. other than that i havent found anything wrong with it. its pretty good.
OP why do you want others to do your work for you? In most cases all the features are listed in the OP of the ROM. SO if you are looking specifically for the volume mod, find one that has it, back up your phone and flash it.
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Paranoid android because its basically cm10 but with hybrid mode for tablet/phablet an stock look.
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OP why do you want others to do your work for you? In most cases all the features are listed in the OP of the ROM. SO if you are looking specifically for the volume mod, find one that has it, back up your phone and flash it.
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thanks for the title change. noticed that.
the reason is because im fairly new to this phone. i know for SURE that this phone has TONS of devs working on it. and im pretty dam sure it has just as many ROMs. which is great lol. and alot of people who have been with this phone since the beginning and have probably used almost every ROM and know all the roms and which ones are best. so instead of me trying to do what they did from the start, i wanted to take the short cut and learn from everyone elses errors and experiences. i dont mean to offend anyone or speak out of place. but you gotta admit, flashing every single rom in a row to test it out for myself would take a long time. i can just ask people who have already done all that and theyll tell me. which is what happened. and once again im very grateful for everyones help so far. even though im still flashing most roms one after another just to check which is better. lol. but you guys steered me in the right direction.
Flashing several different ROMS and digging through threads is part of the fun.
I am personally using Affinity with Franco's kernel and love this combo. I have tried about 6 or 7 different JB ROMs and find Affinity to be my favorite. It has some customization but not an overwhelming amount and it's stable. I have had this setup for about 3 weeks and have had zero issues.
Try quite a few but I would tell anyone to start with AOKP and CM10 and branch out from there.
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Flashing several different ROMS and digging through threads is part of the fun.
I am personally using Affinity with Franco's kernel and love this combo. I have tried about 6 or 7 different JB ROMs and find Affinity to be my favorite. It has some customization but not an overwhelming amount and it's stable. I have had this setup for about 3 weeks and have had zero issues.
Try quite a few but I would tell anyone to start with AOKP and CM10 and branch out from there.
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i have black bean running right now (AOKP) and man am i loving the UI.....amazing. now, u mention francos kernel....i tried it. it kind of seemed...unstable at 1.8ghz....is it worth getting that one to replace the one that comes with it? what does that one do better than the one that comes with AOKP? im only curious...
OMG! What have we done to deserve another best Rom thread!
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donavo said:
i have black bean running right now (AOKP) and man am i loving the UI.....amazing. now, u mention francos kernel....i tried it. it kind of seemed...unstable at 1.8ghz....is it worth getting that one to replace the one that comes with it? what does that one do better than the one that comes with AOKP? im only curious...
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I would think that it would be unstable at 1.8ghz. Try it at 1.2ghz.
I use it at its defaults except I change color calibration and sometimes mess with governor.
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pardon me if this had been asked recently. while the roms out there are top notch, I feel like im getting bored. why is there never new roms or updates? is it because we still have 4.1.2?
I bought this phone because its the greatest phone for me. battery life. size. power. etc. thought it would be one of the better supported.
dont get me wrong. I love the rom im using. its flawless. so I shouldnt complain. but it also has a feature to use torch on lockscreen by pushing the home button. love it. but I cant find it as an add on. so im stuck on this rom.
and im nervous about aosp roms. I love them. I really do. but battery life decreased by about 50% during the week I had an aosp rom installed. so im partial to touchwiz.
I have a great set up now. its just discouraging to think people are giving up on the note 2. which imo is still the best phone you can buy. not over the top on specs but good enough. huge battery. screen res that is not beyond what my eyes can see. and a cpu that doesnt have to blsze at 50 million mhz to run the phone and every app I need. enough ram. etc
This is the same song-and-dance that Samsung has displayed since they started making flagship Androids. They promise timely updates, and not a single one of their phones has ever received an update that can even be conceived of as "timely."
The way Samsung treats their customer base is exactly why TW ROM development has grinded to a halt. People are sick of it. There is nothing new that can be done/added to 4.1.2, so TW devs are waiting for 4.3 to drop (if and when it ever does) to resume TW development.
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pardon me if this had been asked recently. while the roms out there are top notch, I feel like im getting bored. why is there never new roms or updates? is it because we still have 4.1.2?
I bought this phone because its the greatest phone for me. battery life. size. power. etc. thought it would be one of the better supported.
dont get me wrong. I love the rom im using. its flawless. so I shouldnt complain. but it also has a feature to use torch on lockscreen by pushing the home button. love it. but I cant find it as an add on. so im stuck on this rom.
and im nervous about aosp roms. I love them. I really do. but battery life decreased by about 50% during the week I had an aosp rom installed. so im partial to touchwiz.
I have a great set up now. its just discouraging to think people are giving up on the note 2. which imo is still the best phone you can buy. not over the top on specs but good enough. huge battery. screen res that is not beyond what my eyes can see. and a cpu that doesnt have to blsze at 50 million mhz to run the phone and every app I need. enough ram. etc
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s,
you're not seeing the writing on the wall, bro
it's been about a yr since this came out.
It's a dead device. Glamour is gone. ppl moved on
sale it on move on to a better device
i sold my dinosaur, moved on, and couldnt be happier
qkster said:
s,
you're not seeing the writing on the wall, bro
it's been about a yr since this came out.
It's a dead device. Glamour is gone. ppl moved on
sale it on move on to a better device
i sold my dinosaur, moved on, and couldnt be happier
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Or, the devs have done as much as possible with what's been released of TW thus far.
To the OP: The pinnacle has been achieved. Go forth and use your phone and not be bothered by the lack of dev lately: there's nothing left to do until more TW is released by Samsung
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Search before asking. Someone has likely already asked.
Spell your words completely, and use punctuation. It confuses people when you use "u" and "ur" and "dat", or when you wrongly use "there/their/they're/your/you're".
Be nice. Don't be rude, just move on to another post without leaving a comment. We are not 7 years old.
And PLEASE, do not ask for the "best" anything. We all have our preferences.
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This is the same song-and-dance that Samsung has displayed since they started making flagship Androids. They promise timely updates, and not a single one of their phones has ever received an update that can even be conceived of as "timely."
The way Samsung treats their customer base is exactly why TW ROM development has grinded to a halt. People are sick of it. There is nothing new that can be done/added to 4.1.2, so TW devs are waiting for 4.3 to drop (if and when it ever does) to resume TW development.
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Agreed my HTC one went from 4.1.2 to 4.2 to 4.3 already while my note 2 has yet to get an update.
That is sad lol
We should not complain. This is nothing compared to the wait i had to endure with my x10
Because AOKP rules and I get over 6 hours of screen on time with the stock battery/kernel
You said your nervous about AOSP roms because of the battery drain......I was always told the Rom needs to settle and drain all the way down and charge all the way up a couple of times before it settles and you will see the buttery smooth stuff....lol...(Great Battery Life)
Once a month, I let my battery completely die and charge it all the way up (while phone is off)....
I have great battery life on all the roms I try. I can make my phone last 4 days doing regular stuff most of the time before a charge...
I do always come back to Jedi X19....Its just more my type. Beanstock, PACMAN, and others are good too...I just have better experiences with multiple apps while working with TW roms. On the other hand, all the customization you can do with an AOSP rom is insane and I miss it......
To each is own......Battery life sucks on stock roms...Even with freezing apps, its nothing compared to a custom rooted rom.
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Because AOKP rules and I get over 6 hours of screen on time with the stock battery/kernel
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Agreed
qkster said:
s,
you're not seeing the writing on the wall, bro
it's been about a yr since this came out.
It's a dead device. Glamour is gone. ppl moved on
sale it on move on to a better device
i sold my dinosaur, moved on, and couldnt be happier
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Hilarious. Dead device lmfao.
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4.3 TW rom for the Note 2 should be out in a month or so. Development will increase again since they will actually have something new to work with. Unless you are looking for a TW rom that gets updated weekly and the only changes made is the style/size/color of the font.
AOSP development tends to slowdown (almost to a halt) everytime a new version release draws near, as developers don't want to spend countless hours making a new feature that might very well not work in the new version. Once the source code is out development will skyrocket for AOSP devices, while our forum may take a few additional weeks to actually start seeing any action.
Last, I don't consider this device to be stale and dead, I just think that it's in a limbo of some sort. Since I only run AOSP roms I'm not mad at Samsung support, but I am very intrigued of the way samsung has ingnored it's MOST EXPENSIVE phone. I really expected a lot more from them. But as I said I'm runnig 4.3 (AOKP) and I'm extremely happy with my Note 2. Don't see any other device out there that would make me ditch the Note 2. (well maybe I'm a little curious of the Oppo N1).
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Hilarious. Dead device lmfao.
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+1:thumbup::thumbup:
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mindmajick said:
Hilarious. Dead device lmfao.
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at least someone appreciates my humor (and subtle trolling)
anyone complaining about lack of rom and and not wanting to flashing anything else...should move on, imho
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so I shouldnt complain.
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^
But you can always pick-up Development yourself and provide to the Community. BTW Thread Closed.