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Hey ho fellas ,
I was working on adding power management + initialisation/de-initialisation sequence for rhodium´s lcd panel. Till now rhodium´s panel was always on ( initialised ) in deep-sleep aswell those meaning that the display was never de-initialised and was consuming more battery then normal.
I would like that all of you users that are willing to help to test the kernel ( zImage+modules + latest commits included ) and give some feedback.
Test the power on/off sequence, leave it sleeping for ~30mins and unlock it,...then give me here some feedback on your lcd panel behaviour.
zImage + modules ( mediafire or attachment ):
http://www.mediafire.com/?ny18wpc3z8utxrf
Prerequisites:
- Backup your data.img if you have some valuable data on it ( anyway it should not affect it )
- Delete pm_sleep cmd from your startup.txt
What do you mean by this?
Till now rhodium´s panel was always on ( initialised ) in deep-sleep aswell those meaning that the display was never de-initialised and was consuming more battery then normal.
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Do you mean that although the display is off, the panel is still on? Or am I getting this the wrong way? If you could explain this to me then I am willing to test
Lennyz1988 said:
What do you mean by this?
Do you mean that although the display is off, the panel is still on? Or am I getting this the wrong way? If you could explain this to me then I am willing to test
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yeah im curious as well because the only time the lcd is on even when the screen should be sleeping is when its in autobacklight in wm.
lilchicano said:
yeah im curious as well because the only time the lcd is on even when the screen should be sleeping is when its in autobacklight in wm.
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I think that even though it looks like the screen is turned off it still draws power, so this should eliminate that issue allowing better battery life
Yea the way it was explained to me (by the OP on IRC) is that you can't really tell necessairly that the panel isn't being properly de-initialized... I questioned that at first as well.
I played with the new zImage, seems pretty smooth. Had a few hiccups on wakeup, but nothing crazy. Test it out guys, let the OP know how it worked!!
uub11 said:
I think that even though it looks like the screen is turned off it still draws power, so this should eliminate that issue allowing better battery life
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Yeah, its a little bit hard to explain, but its like you said.
arrrghhh said:
Yea the way it was explained to me (by the OP on IRC) is that you can't really tell necessairly that the panel isn't being properly de-initialized... I questioned that at first as well.
I played with the new zImage, seems pretty smooth. Had a few hiccups on wakeup, but nothing crazy. Test it out guys, let the OP know how it worked!!
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Yeah, test it out and post your feedback
ReWind402 said:
Yeah, its a little bit hard to explain, but its like you said.
Yeah, test it out and post your feedback
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I'm at work and can't download off mediafire can anyone either upload here or on rapidshare.
uub11 said:
I'm at work and can't download off mediafire can anyone either upload here or on rapidshare.
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I uploaded it here on xda, check the 1st post.
uub11 said:
I'm at work and can't download off mediafire can anyone either upload here or on rapidshare.
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Ha, responded a little late. I removed it...
Does it matter for the testing if you use pm sleep 2 or 1? Just curious. Testing now
Lennyz1988 said:
Does it matter for the testing if you use pm sleep 2 or 1? Just curious. Testing now
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It would better that pm_sleep has the default value.
Will give this a try as I go about my day today. I don't OC and use pm_sleep=1 yet still get terrible battery life (b/c I'm a power-user, on e-mail constantly). Any positive change will be wonderful We'll see how it goes.
My findings:
- Device does not go into standby, but I used sleep 2, maybe that is the cause.
- The Led keeps blinkin red. (never seen that before on android)
- The device reboots itself.
and a really negative effect is that I lost all my settings... My launcher pro settings, setcpu, whatsapp...
Hi,
As far as i understood there is no way to know exactly is display in standby mode or not?
I did some tests for now with light sensor ON and OFF (in WM) so here we go (PM is set to 2).
With sensor turned ON in WM:
After going standby screen gone completely off, no glow from backlight in dark environment like it was in previeous kernels and here is an answer to my guess above, screen IS truly going into standby. Also I've noticed some strange behaviour, the debugging led which was intended to go green in standby, randomly (i guess) flashes in around 2 Hz frequency with amber and then stays for 3-4 secs and cycleing like this, no green at all. Returning from standby is not OK, after pressing end button screen is not turning on as expected BUT, after touching at the place where unlock or mute sliders should be screen wakes, so i can assume that after pressing end button screen is just not turning on but touch panel does. Wake on call works as before, as like as wake from HWkeyboard slide (both with 2-3 sec delay). Shutdown actually turn the phone OFF.
It seems With sensor turned OFF in WM, phone acts same way.
I was testing with Matthew's RAR - Android v2.2 Froyo: BLAZN from Aug 30, 2010
Lennyz1988 said:
My findings:
- Device does not go into standby, but I used sleep 2, maybe that is the cause.
- The Led keeps blinkin red. (never seen that before on android)
- The device reboots itself.
and a really negative effect is that I lost all my settings... My launcher pro settings, setcpu, whatsapp...
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1. Try deleting pm_sleep from your startup.txt ( then the default value will be used - i recommend that ) or put 1
2. never seen that on android
Anyway i am really sry for the inconvenience regarding launcer pro, kernel change should not affect those kind of settings :s
solevi said:
Hi,
As far as i understood there is no way to know exactly is display in standby mode or not?
I did some tests for now with light sensor ON and OFF (in WM) so here we go (PM is set to 2).
With sensor turned ON in WM:
After going standby screen gone completely off, no glow from backlight in dark environment like it was in previeous kernels and here is an answer to my guess above, screen IS truly going into standby. Also I've noticed some strange behaviour, the debugging led which was intended to go green in standby, randomly (i guess) flashes in around 2 Hz frequency with amber and then stays for 3-4 secs and cycleing like this, no green at all. Returning from standby is not OK, after pressing end button screen is not turning on as expected BUT, after touching at the place where unlock or mute sliders should be screen wakes, so i can assume that after pressing end button screen is just not turning on but touch panel does. Wake on call works as before, as like as wake from HWkeyboard slide (both with 2-3 sec delay). Shutdown actually turn the phone OFF.
It seems With sensor turned OFF in WM, phone acts same way.
I was testing with Matthew's RAR - Android v2.2 Froyo: BLAZN from Aug 30, 2010
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Yeah its a common problem for now we are investigating this.
So i have a confirmation that the screen is really powered off?
Anyway guys try putting 1 into pm_sleep or deleting it from startup.txt (i recommend the 2nd choice ).
I ran into an interesting problem however I did not see the previous post...
Several time it went into standby (I assume) and the screen was pitch black meaning the backlight was not on. To get it out of standby, I woul click the end button like normal. after a couple of hours I pulled the phone out of my holdster, and it was abnormally hot. I do not have an overclock and my pm sleep is set to 1. I did not press the screen to see if it would respond so maybe that is what was being mentioned in the last post. None of the buttons would bring it back to life and the LED was amber and solid, where typically it would flash with this new zimage and modules. I will try to get it back to that state and see if I can click the screen even though it is dark. One thing that worries me is the battery though. Could this be damaging to it? Even when I did have it overclocked it never reached that temperature.
Anything else I can do to help troubleshoot?
EDIT: Sorry, forgot to mention I am on a Sprint RHOD400
I'm on the RHOD400 model, no OC, pm_sleep=1
Couldn't really get it to be stable, had to switch back to WinMo for the day (and trust me, that's desperation ). Once restarted in my pocket without any interaction on my part. I would press the end key to turn on screen, and had it auto reboot at that point as well. Also got a "sleep of death" twice and had to restart. While in your kernel I didn't have notification LEDs as well (not even for power events), vs the guy above that had blinking red.
I'm sure you'll get it eventually, keep up the hard work!
Hi!
Any news? Are we gonna wait for new kernel with committed code or it development is stalled?
Hello,
I recently bought an Incredible for my girlfriend on craigslist. It was only 2 months old (in great condition to boot). Either way after flashing CM7.0 I noticed that the automatic backlight setting did not work. I just set it to around 25% and figured I would figure it out later. After 7.0.2.1 came out I flashed that and no change. I then decided to figure it out. It seems that after waking the sensor doesn't work unless really flooded with direct bright light (such as the flash light from my incredible). After that it works mostly as intended.
Here is how I tested it. I lock the phone when in the custom light levels screen. When unlocking the Sensor (filtered / raw) is at 10/10 and will not change no matter what I do until I hit it directly with a bright light. I believe that it will also change eventually letting it just sit. Most of my tests involved using bright light sources. After that the sensor works just fine and changes almost instantly when I cover it with my hand and then move it into regular room light. Is this a known issue? I checked the bug tracker briefly but did not see anything. I have had two others test. One had fine light sensor response the other had the same issue as me.
Anyone have any idea?
I've noticed that the automatic brightness does work, but at the default levels its way too dark. Had to go info the menu and bump up all the levels and it's alright now. Doesn't seem like it works quite as smoothly as it does on sense roms but I haven't gone through and tweaked everything perfectly, I honestly don't understand all the adjustments that are available.
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I've noticed that the automatic brightness does work, but at the default levels its way too dark. Had to go info the menu and bump up all the levels and it's alright now. Doesn't seem like it works quite as smoothly as it does on sense roms but I haven't gone through and tweaked everything perfectly, I honestly don't understand all the adjustments that are available.
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It does work but the sensor doesn't respond in a timely fashion.
Have you tried changing the sample interval?
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What settings are you using? I.E. do you have filtering enabled? What is your window length? Sample interval? Etc.
I've never seen anyone discuss this as a CM7 bug. Based on the way you are describing it, it sounds like you might just need to tweak your settings.
For example, if your window length is very long and sample interval slow, that might be why your readings are taking so long to update. As for why the reading changes as soon as you hit it with a bright light, you could be tripping the reset threshold.
Just in case you haven't checked it out already:
Numerical explanation of the CM7 automatic backlight settings
I will check when she gets off work. All I did was flash cm7. I didn't mess with light sensor settings.
Ok... I have checked it... Not good. Sample intervals were set to 1s. Even still they were not enabled. Messing with the settings didn't yield any results either. It was still sluggish until hitting it with bright light...
I would search, there are multiple threads around where people have posted their settings, I would try those then tweak it to your liking. Also check out byrong's thread, the man knows his stuff.
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The automatic brightness sucks on stock as well. Just turn it off. You can't see the screen in bright sunlight no matter what the setting is, and you can see it just fine at 64/255 inside. All the automatic brightness does is give you a headache.
I installed cm9 after using cm7 and cant get the four buttons on the phone to light up. They are accessible but not illuminated. has anyone else encountered this problem.
Also I was wondering if the Cm7 uses more battery than cm9
You have to use auto brightness.
cm9 illumination
If you mean display auto brightness ok but when I'm outside I can't see the screen...guess ibhave to toggle back and forth. I had switched back to cm7. In your opinion is 9 worth changing to. It seems like in 7 everything is working pretty well.
Thank you for the reply
pmpic said:
I installed cm9 after using cm7 and cant get the four buttons on the phone to light up. They are accessible but not illuminated. has anyone else encountered this problem.
Also I was wondering if the Cm7 uses more battery than cm9
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Toggling auto brightness on and off solves it. Just tinker with it..
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cm9 illumination
Thank you....I appreciate it
Menu keys...
Ive been using the dinc2 since last July and I got used to the buttons to the point that I noticed they didn't light up, but until I saw this post, I never considered it a "problem". Since I knew where they were and didn't need to see them to use them. If they ever do "fix" this issue I hope they allow for a settings option to keep them turned off. I actually enjoy them off, in my mind its just one more security feature. I know when my wife tries to use my phone she needs to see them, and since recently rooting to CM9 I don't want her bricking my phone. Because of the unlit buttons she has stopped using my phone (she uses some cheap AT&T phone, refuses to switch to Verizon). Just throwing my opinion in the mix. Thanks for the post as well I wasn't sure it was intentional or not.
atomwes said:
Ive been using the dinc2 since last July and I got used to the buttons to the point that I noticed they didn't light up, but until I saw this post, I never considered it a "problem". Since I knew where they were and didn't need to see them to use them. If they ever do "fix" this issue I hope they allow for a settings option to keep them turned off. I actually enjoy them off, in my mind its just one more security feature. I know when my wife tries to use my phone she needs to see them, and since recently rooting to CM9 I don't want her bricking my phone. Because of the unlit buttons she has stopped using my phone (she uses some cheap AT&T phone, refuses to switch to Verizon). Just throwing my opinion in the mix. Thanks for the post as well I wasn't sure it was intentional or not.
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I believe in the advanced brightness settings under CMSettings you can do just that. Whenever I run a CM rom, I always go to the brightness settings under edit Other Levels and set all the softkey values on the far right column to 255 so they're always the same brightness and look nice. I like the sheen they have, but I can only see it when they're close to full brightness.
If you did the opposite, set all the values to 0 and then click Save and Apply Values at the top of that screen, they should, theoretically, never turn on.
Thank you ....as I am new to a rooted phone and this forum I didn't know those adjustments were available...learn something new everyday ......
Does cm9 drain the battery alot quicker or is it unnoticeable
pmpic said:
Thank you ....as I am new to a rooted phone and this forum I didn't know those adjustments were available...learn something new everyday ......
Does cm9 drain the battery alot quicker or is it unnoticeable
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Unfortunately, I can't answer that question for you, as my phone doesn't like our ICS builds. Until we get a leaked official kernel and some source, I'm SOL.
RegnierD said:
I believe in the advanced brightness settings under CMSettings you can do just that. Whenever I run a CM rom, I always go to the brightness settings under edit Other Levels and set all the softkey values on the far right column to 255 so they're always the same brightness and look nice. I like the sheen they have, but I can only see it when they're close to full brightness.
If you did the opposite, set all the values to 0 and then click Save and Apply Values at the top of that screen, they should, theoretically, never turn on.
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Where exactly are these settings? Running CM7 with the same problem as the OP and can't find it anywhere. Edit: found the settings and putting them all at 255 didn't do anything. Any other ideas?
Hey all,
I experienced something a few mintues ago. I installed a new rom, Blissdroid. I 'discovered' that the backlight of the touch input (under the screen) was reacting dynamicly to sunlight. It went off in full sun. I couldn't find a setting to let it lighten up all the time.
I went back to Virtuous Unity, 2.35. It seems like the same thing is happening. I don't know if it's just normal (and I never discovered it before) or is there a setting I have to change (because I can't find one)?
Someone who can help me?
Thanks!
Settings>Display>Brightness and turn off automatic brightness and set it to a value manually see if that works for you.
dstylazz said:
Settings>Display>Brightness and turn off automatic brightness and set it to a value manually see if that works for you.
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I tried that, didn't work.
For you it is always lighten up, even if you are outsise/inside where it is really bright? When I go outside, full sun, those 4 touch inputs will stop shine. It seems there is something wrong with my DHD? Or Am I mistaken? Someone who can confirm it is always lighten up?
Nahsen said:
I tried that, didn't work.
For you it is always lighten up, even if you are outsise/inside where it is really bright? When I go outside, full sun, those 4 touch inputs will stop shine. It seems there is something wrong with my DHD? Or Am I mistaken? Someone who can confirm it is always lighten up?
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When inside those buttons will be on. When you go outside they will turn off. They don't have a setting to turn that off
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trh1341 said:
When inside those buttons will be on. When you go outside they will turn off. They don't have a setting to turn that off
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Oh, so it is just a normal feature of DHD? Weird that I just discovered that yesterday
rcmix 4.0 and roms that use rctweaks have settings for this. alternatively you can set it to your exact preference if you edit framework-res according to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034743&highlight=systemui+apk
the link is manly aimed at tweaking your autobrightness, but it has info on butons too
Thank you. I only feared a problem, caused by changing ROM, as I never saw that before. I Thought those inputs were always lighten up, in every dark/bright situation.
depends on rom authors preference i suppose
if you are using sense 3.5 runnymede port, you can also flash tweaks as addon. some very nice features in there
Thank you all. I'm not great in flashing ROMs, certainly nog all those tweaks. I tried Virtuous Affinity and Blissdroid, but in both I heard a pop sound after playing music, sound, ringtone,... It seemed like I was not alone.
So I went back to Virtuous Unity 2.35, which doesn't give me any problem, except for a random bootloop from time to time (for example after playing Angry birds and once just after sending a message) what I can fix by replacing the battery. This happens 1 time in 3 months or so.
I just don't want to brick my phone, so I don't experiment much. Maybe one day, when I've got a new phone, I can use my DHD to experiment more.
Now you can enjoy SGS3 Smart Stay funcionality in HOX too. Download ISeeyou app from Play Store to get the feature.
razzil.com/get-smart-stay-feature-any-android-phone.html
Works perfect . Whether it drains battery.
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Thanks. It works, now just have to monitor on the battery life.
Btw, would like to ask on the notification icon, is it possible to set it to show only when the "smart stay function" is activated during looking at screen?
Nothing happens on my one!!!!
shtipu1111 said:
Nothing happens on my one!!!!
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Haha. You have to stare really really hard at the front camera. I kid
What's your screen off time? If you set it to the lowest for the screen to turn off after 15 sec, it might not work since the free version of the app detects your face every 20sec by default.
Get the paid version and you can set face detect time and scan time
it works quite well I must say
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shtipu1111 said:
Nothing happens on my one!!!!
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As @samuelong87 mention buy Premium version so that you can customize the time. It works perfectly at my side.
Smart Stay would be a nice feature to have but I would like to think that the app would somehow drain lots of battery.. abusing the front camera every half a minute or so would somehow have an impact I'm sure.
I wonder if the S3 would have enhanced battery life if they disabled the Smart Stay option.
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Smart Stay would be a nice feature to have but I would like to think that the app would somehow drain lots of battery.. abusing the front camera every half a minute or so would somehow have an impact I'm sure.
I wonder if the S3 would have enhanced battery life if they disabled the Smart Stay option.
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i am wonder the same thing.
but i just purchased it and i will test
this is not interfering in any way to the auto brightness settings in in display as far as i can see.
it would be more than interesting to have an option to auto power off display after no face detecting (with customizable timing of course)
regards
Oh got it..thnx
andreipga85 said:
i am wonder the same thing.
but i just purchased it and i will test
this is not interfering in any way to the auto brightness settings in in display as far as i can see.
it would be more than interesting to have an option to auto power off display after no face detecting (with customizable timing of course)
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Well, first impression on this app is that it's not really battery friendly, but it does what it is supposed to do very well. Maybe next releases will be better from this point of view.
Regards
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Well, seems i will use it just from time to time
But is indeed an app that does well what is meant to do.
Regrads!
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Regards
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This app appears not working when device is on horizontal position
It works here when I'm switching to landscape mode, maybe you're blocking the front camera with your finger a little bit ?
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Now HTC One X is the best phone. This was the only feature missing
ISeeYou Causing Issues On My HOX
I have the HOX International. I used this app, and though it's a great concept, I was left largely dissatisfied by it.
While it works as advertised, I'm peeved with a couple of issues:
1) It blocks BOTH the front and back cameras. Try accessing the camera app while the service is ON and you only get a black screen.
2) It seems to hog battery occasionally (although this happens rarely).
3) I had the service to autostart, and received the shock of my life when around 1 hour into my day, I found that the rear camera was heating up. This might be a direct consequence of point 1 above.
I am on Stock and have the latest firmware update.
I don't know if any of you are facing these issues, but I've uninstalled the app ever since I started facing it.
Just a friendly heads up!
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I have the HOX International. I used this app, and though it's a great concept, I was left largely dissatisfied by it.
While it works as advertised, I'm peeved with a couple of issues:
1) It blocks BOTH the front and back cameras. Try accessing the camera app while the service is ON and you only get a black screen.
2) It seems to hog battery occasionally (although this happens rarely).
3) I had the service to autostart, and received the shock of my life when around 1 hour into my day, I found that the rear camera was heating up. This might be a direct consequence of point 1 above.
I am on Stock and have the latest firmware update.
I don't know if any of you are facing these issues, but I've uninstalled the app ever since I started facing it.
Just a friendly heads up!
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The camera works well here! But, when I launched it from lock screen, it was blank. After unlocking properly with the secure path I use, both front and back cameras worked! (Newest wwe firmware.)
BUT: it DOES brake Face Unlock! I already sent a bug report e-mail to the dev
Used to work ok,then stoped without reason and I got blank screen with stock and other camera app(FV 5 and ics+).Unistalled it,but still had to reboot phone to get camera working properly.Installed it again,it works now,stock camera is working as well as FV5,with ics + , it gets FC sometimes...very nice idea,needs some polishing.
argetlam1 said:
I have the HOX International. I used this app, and though it's a great concept, I was left largely dissatisfied by it.
While it works as advertised, I'm peeved with a couple of issues:
1) It blocks BOTH the front and back cameras. Try accessing the camera app while the service is ON and you only get a black screen.
2) It seems to hog battery occasionally (although this happens rarely).
3) I had the service to autostart, and received the shock of my life when around 1 hour into my day, I found that the rear camera was heating up. This might be a direct consequence of point 1 above.
I am on Stock and have the latest firmware update.
I don't know if any of you are facing these issues, but I've uninstalled the app ever since I started facing it.
Just a friendly heads up!
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I had haven't any problem as you wrote.
And also battery brain is normal from the moment front camera open for checking every 20". But no something special.
Anyway I think we dont need so match this future. At smartphones screen is so small, so when you read anything you need to scroll down. It's meaning if you touch the screen will continue to stay wakeup. I would like to have something like that in my iPad.
I can't get this working