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hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
X-Kenshin-X said:
hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
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Yeah the batteries that do not require a bigger back door are all going to perform the same oem or worse. So you can get a cheap charger and and extra oem battery and do that,or say **** it and get the big ass battery
X-Kenshin-X said:
hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
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ahhh the eternal quest for the holy grail of batteries. nope, it's not possible. not until battery technology improves. If it was possible to have a better performing battery that was the same size HTC would of put it in their to begin with. check out batteryboss.org for proof.
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ahhh the eternal quest for the holy grail of batteries. nope, it's not possible. not until battery technology improves. If it was possible to have a better performing battery that was the same size HTC would of put it in their to begin with. check out batteryboss.org for proof.
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I did check it out! What's wrong with the 2150mAH TP2 battery as an option? I ordered one. Thanks for the link.
Here's one: Mugen Power Extended Battery 1800mAh for HTC Evo 4G
However, the reality is that Manufacturer claims a 20% improvement in battery life. Depending on your use that may or may not be significant enough. I'm just running stock battery w/ custom ROM (Damage Control) and some system tweaks which significantly improved battery life (errr, at least resulted in less battery drain
-kp
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I did check it out! What's wrong with the 2150mAH TP2 battery as an option? I ordered one. Thanks for the link.
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The 2150 OEM TP2 is the official HTC extended battery, its thicker and requires a extended battery door.
kperry1911 said:
Here's one: Mugen Power Extended Battery 1800mAh for HTC Evo 4G
However, the reality is that Manufacturer claims a 20% improvement in battery life. Depending on your use that may or may not be significant enough. I'm just running stock battery w/ custom ROM (Damage Control) and some system tweaks which significantly improved battery life (errr, at least resulted in less battery drain
-kp
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The "1800mAh" Mugen tested identical to the 1500mAh OEM battery.. save your money. http://batteryboss.org/results/NewMugen1800mAh_vs_NewOEM1500mAh.png
IMO the best option is to tweak your settings.. Im getting as much as 30 hours out of my OEM 1500 battery now. I also have 3 spare
batteries in case I ever need more juice. they are quite small and fit in a wallet fine. i've yet to actually need one. You could also try
this, which was told to me by an HTC Rep (and it for real almost tripled my battery life!)
"To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well."
you only need to do it once, and then again each time you flash a new ROM or do an OTA update.
did this method of turning the phone on and off and charging the battery for another hour improve battery life for anyone?
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The 2150 OEM TP2 is the official HTC extended battery, its thicker and requires a extended battery door.
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OOPS! Time for a new door.
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IMO the best option is to tweak your settings.. Im getting as much as 30 hours out of my OEM 1500 battery now. I also have 3 spare
batteries in case I ever need more juice. they are quite small and fit in a wallet fine. i've yet to actually need one. You could also try
this, which was told to me by an HTC Rep (and it for real almost tripled my battery life!)
"To ate.
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30 hours? you joking right?
If you getting that much why in the world would you have the need for an extra battery let alone three?
I call BS
That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
I am waiting on a 1750mAh spare battery that fits with the standard back plate. If it works well, I will advise.
what is your up time though. i have an 3500mah extended battery and i don't get 30 hours still
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That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
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I keep 4g on
I keep data always enabled too.
Do you?
I get over 9 Hours with BT, and data on all day. I have a task manager that shuts things down every 30 mins "IGNORE LIST messages, gv dialer, clock, task manager" Without it I was getting 4 hours. I make calls and surf the web and watch my porn clips during the day, so it does get used. I sent for the 1750 yesterday so I will update this after I get it that thing going. And the new batterys do have to be charged and discharge like 20 times before the hold a charge as well as they say it can.. Batterys on ebay=joke, buy the name brand ones. I used to make r/c battery packs and they have a peak run time in life, and its not the first time you charge them. It takes time..
I went to eBay and bought the "HTC EVO 4G BATTERY 1800+Dock USB CHGR SPRINT TOUCH PRO2" from vendor Chichitec. Vendor is located in California, so no sketchy chinese vendor, high ratings and fast delivery.
I haven't really timed how much more usage I'm getting with this new battery, but it does last longer, trust me.
The separate wall charger also seems to charge the OEM battery better than just by using the usb cable on the phone.
Not a bad deal for $19.98 at your door.
~fb
topdnbass said:
That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
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Sadly, for people who actually turn on their phone this is somewhat unrealistic.
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Sadly, for people who actually turn on their phone this is somewhat unrealistic.
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I turn mine on quite frequently and posted my build below.
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30 hours? you joking right?
If you getting that much why in the world would you have the need for an extra battery let alone three?
I call BS
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I get anywhere from 20-40 hours on a single charge(OEM battery) depending on my usage running Damage Control 3.2.3 with netarchy's 3.7.5 kernel, setCPU and Advanced Task Manager. I have setcpu keep the CPU @ 245mhz when the screen is off and 245mhz-1113mhz(on demand) when the screen is on.
I also use Advanced Task Manager($0.99) to kill out the programs I'm using with a widget/button. Whenever I'm done using the device I quickly hit the kill button(which doesn't kill the normal essentials) and shut the screen off which down-clocks the proc to 245mhz.
Today for instance:
-unplugged at 07:00
-GPS on, Wifi Off unless needed, 4G Off, Bluetooth On during travel
-beautiful widgets updating weather every hour via cell triangulation
-stock weather updating every hour
-used for slacker via the AUX jack for 45mins-1hr on the way to work
-1 bluetooth call in between listening to slacker on the car
-about 10-15 calls today while at work
-about 10 emails came in and I read them
-browsed web for prob 20mins during lunch on office wifi
-used for slacker via the AUX jack for 45mins-1hr on the way home
-rebooted device
-made 1 non-bluetooth call, sent a few text messages, and then posted this
I'm now at 61% battery remaining and probably won't charge this until lunch or on the way home from work tomorrow. I would give my up time vs awake time but I restarted the phone an hour ago so those figures aren't there anymore.
So, BS? I think not.
I have read what batteryboss has said but I can tell you I get 3-4 hours longer use from my 2000Mah battery. Now I am seeing a big drop off with Froyo but it is on all my batteries, even the OEM.
clayginn said:
I have read what batteryboss has said but I can tell you I get 3-4 hours longer use from my 2000Mah battery. Now I am seeing a big drop off with Froyo but it is on all my batteries, even the OEM.
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I hear that, I probably lost 20% or more with froyo and immediately reverted back to my DC 3.2.3 build.
This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....
i think you need to charge it for 12 hours first.
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Thanks,you were right! An overnight charge of around 12 hours did it.This is the first phone battery I had to do that with to get them to just work at all.Seems to work just fine now Again,thank you!
Let us know how long the battery is lasting once you get a few cycles please!
Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.
Will do,just need a few days to do it,its lasting a looooong time!
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Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.
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NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.
I am having a similar issue with a battery that I ordered off of ebay. It's 3500mah.
When I plug it in it will turn off and get stuck in a boot loop on the vibrant screen, but if it is off then it won't turn on at all when plugged in. It has been plugged in for 9 hours so far and it doesn't even show the charging animation or anything.
Normal? Or is the battery defective?
Thanks.
Ok. After charging it overnight and still nothing, I'm going to assume its broken. Thanks.
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This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....
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Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?
it fits good...
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Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?
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...and it does get a bit bulky,weight goes up to about double the amount,but it is so worth it,and then some!!I went from 6 hours on the stock battery to over 18 with the Mugen,and thats with heavy use(full brightness/live wallpaper,etc.).If you dont have access to a charger outside your home,this is a great buy,and you know the quality is there,unlike the uncertainty of the cheep chinese ones.Highly recommended!
The OS needs to learn your new battery. Just takes time and usage.
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just bought 3000 mah
just bought one from accessory geeks, it came 70% charged, and am updating battery stats after a full charge, during stat recalibration, power is iffy. will update, and am considering mugen. any suggestions?
I am not so sure about your information
Mannymal said:
NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.
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I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby
roby5167 said:
I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby
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No controversies at all. Your info from the link is outright wrong.
Mannymal is correct on this one.
I also have this battery. By the time I got it, Team Whiskeys roms had gotten good enough to where I didn't need an extended battery for day to day use (stock battery usually has 30-40% when i go to bed), but I do use it when I travel, so I don't have to worry about using it like crazy. The battery lasts a long time, probably like 2 or 3 days if I actually tried to drain it, at least. And it's definitely adds bulk, but it's reasonably well made and feels sturdy.
My only complaint is that I sometimes cover the speaker with my finger when I want to silence it real quick, and it doesn't work with this because the cover's so far from the speaker. But that's just my weird thing.
Also, yeah, don't kill your battery. No es bueno.
What is this? How do I read?
What is this? How do I read?
I use a seido innocell battery and it works great after a few over night charges. I get about 8 hours average of talk time. The battery is pretty small compared to the one accessory greeks sell. Even though the ah battery ia twenty five dollars, that is like the entry level name brand battery, it will lady you a while longer than the cheap ones on ebay, but I don't knower about the ones on ebay although I do know about the one ag sells skies down charging after about 45 percent charging. The seido is charging pretty fast for me and is half the price of a mugen, the next battery I'm going to buy will be the nugent, not because I need it, just
Cause I want to enjoy it.
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All batteries are so used it. . . .
All batteries are so used it. . . .
My old battery was dying after 10 hours of use. So I bought 2 more batteries. I was wondering how I would use the 2 batteries efficiently and deal with the battery stats.
Should I break in each battery?
provoko said:
My old battery was dying after 10 hours of use. So I bought 2 more batteries. I was wondering how I would use the 2 batteries efficiently and deal with the battery stats.
Should I break in each battery?
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Well you'd basically have to re-calibrate each time you switched ; charge to 100% > let it fully discharge > charge back to 100% again, to be truly efficient.
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Well you'd basically have to re-calibrate each time you switched ; charge to 100% > let it fully discharge > charge back to 100% again, to be truly efficient.
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Well, they are identical batteries, so they should discharge at the same rate.
I'm going to try just breaking in both once and i'll post my results.
If anyone has already done two batteries before, please post.
2 identical batteries won't ever be identical. You could get 20 of them, and no 2 would actually be identical. To do it "properly" there is a file that records the battery stats, but I can't remember wtf it is right of the top of my head. What you do is calibrate the 1st battery, then rename the file to whatever.one. Then calibrate the 2nd battery. When you go back to the first battery, change the current file to whatever.two, then change whatever.one to the proper file name.
That said, even though the 2 batteries won't be identical, they will be close enough not to make it worth all that work.
After a month of using this method, I can say it's been GREAT! I can't remember the last time I plugged my phone in to get it charged. =)
not sure if its the best way, but what I do is I have my original battery which I charge within the phone and then I have a 3rd party cheap battery I got. Got a cheap charger for the extra battery and rotate them in use every so often. Seems to get me pretty good battery life, haven't messed with the battery states either.
I always had this question in my head and i think its time to ask. All android phones i had does this and i wanna know if this does harm in somehow the battery.
When i plug the phone to the PC to transfer some files it recharges the battery too, sometimes depending how big are they, the phone stays connected for longer. I want to know if it harms the battery doing this small, medium charges while transfering files.
Doesn't harm the new batteries.
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Ok, thanks.
... what Flo95 said.
More specifically, lithium-ion batteries don't develop the 'charge memory' older battery technologies like NiCad do if not allowed to fully run down before a charge.
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... what Flo95 said.
More specifically, lithium-ion batteries don't develop the 'charge memory' older battery technologies like NiCad do if not allowed to fully run down before a charge.
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Can you please explain a little, I didn't really understand what you said here bro
Sorry about that.
DeepUnknown said:
Can you please explain a little, I didn't really understand what you said here bro
Sorry about that.
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Older batteries suffered from "memory effect", meaning that if you charged them before they were empty and until they were any less than full, soon enough their capacity would deteriorate.
New batteries don't have that problem. You can charge them any time you want for as long as you want. In fact, it's advisable to not let them discharge completely and charge them often.
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Older batteries suffered from "memory effect", meaning that if you charged them before they were empty and until they were any less than full, soon enough their capacity would deteriorate.
New batteries don't have that problem. You can charge them any time you want for as long as you want. In fact, it's advisable to not let them discharge completely and charge them often.
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Thanks for explaining it for me
It seems a bit ironic, previously we had to be aware from charging at any time and it was stronly recommended to charge only when battery is completely dead.
While these days it's better if we not let the battery completely discharged
I'm not up-to-date on battery etiquette, so thought I would check with you chaps. I should be picking my One X up from Carphone Warehouse tomorrow or Wed, but wanted to know whether it was considered better to charge immediately, or to use the battery until the phone dies, then charge fully, or some other third option. Want to make sure I get the best out of the battery, obviously.
Thanks!
wilkomints said:
I'm not up-to-date on battery etiquette, so thought I would check with you chaps. I should be picking my One X up from Carphone Warehouse tomorrow or Wed, but wanted to know whether it was considered better to charge immediately, or to use the battery until the phone dies, then charge fully, or some other third option. Want to make sure I get the best out of the battery, obviously.
Thanks!
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What you really want to do is condition your battery. You don't need to do it immediately but in the first week or so of having the phone. By conditioning, I mean... Charging it until it's full, then using it until its fully discharged, then charging it again. Repeat this cycle ("fully discharged when charging") for 3 to 4 times... after that, you'll notice that your battery lasts longer than usual. It's what I've done with all my phones, seemed to work pretty good.
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What you really want to do is condition your battery. You don't need to do it immediately but in the first week or so of having the phone. By conditioning, I mean... Charging it until it's full, then using it until its fully discharged, then charging it again. Repeat this cycle ("fully discharged when charging") for 3 to 4 times... after that, you'll notice that your battery lasts longer than usual. It's what I've done with all my phones, seemed to work pretty good.
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But were you using Lithium-Ion batteries? From what I have heard, completely depleting the power of the battery actually damages its health.
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But were you using Lithium-Ion batteries? From what I have heard, completely depleting the power of the battery actually damages its health.
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I think you are right.
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A lot of the time android will shut down just before your battery is 100% empty, you will find if you try to turn your phone on after its shut down it will still boot and run for 15 - 30 mins, depending on battery age and condition ofcorse. And if you keep on turning on the phone when its battery is very low/empty you will then start to damage it.
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Some one posted this website before:
http://batteryuniversity.com/
It also has a nice table about how to look after your battery:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
How to Prime Batteries
...Rechargeable batteries may not deliver their full rated capacity when new and will require formatting. While this applies to most battery systems, manufacturers of lithium-ion batteries disagree. They say that Li-ion is ready at birth and does not need priming. Although this may be true, users have reported some capacity gains by cycling these batteries after long storage....
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Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prime_batteries
Charging the battery
Before you turn on and start using HTC One X, it is recommended that you charge the battery.
Only the power adapter and USB Cable provided in the box must be used to charge the battery.
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Source: HTC One X Manual as pasted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572581
However there seems to be a common agreement that over the first week / two weeks of usage the battery will improve...
Last quote from MaDaCo review comments from Paul when asked how does he condition his battery:
I don't really condition it tbh, I just find it takes a few charges to get 'up to speed'.
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Conditioning the battery was needed with old style batteries.. new Li-xxx batteries don't need one.. and what does an extra 30mins actually mean to you ...
now you can buy original replacement batteries for 20-30$, so if it loses it's capacity after some time you can easily buy new one...
LorD ClockaN said:
Conditioning the battery was needed with old style batteries.. new Li-xxx batteries don't need one.. and what does an extra 30mins actually mean to you ...
now you can buy original replacement batteries for 20-30$, so if it loses it's capacity after some time you can easily buy new one...
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and how do we fit it ???????????????
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wilkomints said:
I'm not up-to-date on battery etiquette, so thought I would check with you chaps. I should be picking my One X up from Carphone Warehouse tomorrow or Wed, but wanted to know whether it was considered better to charge immediately, or to use the battery until the phone dies, then charge fully, or some other third option. Want to make sure I get the best out of the battery, obviously.
Thanks!
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I'd use the battery as soon as you get it until completely drained.
Then perform a full battery charge without use, its best to do this to ensure a full 0%-100% charge.