Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel
Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.
You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.
Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
steve228uk said:
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers
Hi, im a bit stuck here, I have a telstra desire with their 2.1 rom, and a hboot of 0.83.0001 it seems to be able to install clockworkmod ok, and I can get into it but when I install a custom rom, after the reboot, it sticks on the telstra splash screen and vibrates 7 times. at this point if I try to boot into recovery it also does the same thing, the only way to recover is to go into fastboot and update the official telstra RUU again.
I have tried the latest Modaco rom and the latest Leedriod rom, both same effect.
this is exactly what I did to install Leedriod:
install clockworkmod from unrevoked3
copied these 2 files to SD:
32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2.zip
LeeDrOiD_V2.1a_NoA2SD.zip
boot into clockworkmod, Erased Data, into advanced, erased davlik cache
install from zip > choose zip to install > chose LeeDriod > installing......
once that finished, I installed the radio, then chose reboot from the clockworkmod menu.
it rebooted and got a little picture of a box and an arrow coming out of it for a few seconds, then I got the telstra spash screen and 7 vibrates.
has anyone got any idea where im going wrong? I cant seem to find any information and im a bit of a noob to android, just defected from the world of WM (Tytn2)
ok so I have done a little bit of trial and error, turns out my problem is the radio.
Tried 2 different radio roms, both end up stopping the phone from booting at all. must be something different to the hardware in this new desire that needs a special radio rom maybe?
jayme,
You've likely hit the nail on the head with your issue. Telstra models of the Desire (8183) use a different set of radio hardware. Telstra runs their own 'Next G' network, which is a different frequency network to the rest of the world.
This frequency (850Mhz) requires different hardware to be installed on the phone, which is why the Telstra version of the phone will only ever work on the Telstra network.
My suggestion would be to find a rom that supports the 850Mhz network, using a compatible radio module. Failing that you may have to learn how to build your own.
Good luck.
I actually installed the leedriod froyo rom fine and it works as long as I leave the original radio module untouched, but then I get the stability issues associated with running earlier radios on froyo. what im wondering is what are all these other telstra users running custom froyo roms using for their radio. ive read guides taht say which radio to install on a telstra desire and mine just doesnt work with those versions.
I may have to wait for the official telstra 2.2. update and the compatible radio rom that comes with it
Waiting sounds like your only option. I bought an unbranded phone to use on the Optus network. Thankfully Froyo 2.2 came out a few weeks back, and I'm quite happy with it.
Waiting can be a pain in the arse and considering how long this country has to wait for things from Telstra, getting 2.2 might be a belated Christmas present next year...
Good luck with whatever you chose.
Try teppic74's Rom here <forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997>.
I had full success and converted my Telstra branded Desire into generic HTC Desire.
NextG functionality was not affected by flashing teppic74's Rom with the Radio.
Cheers
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
Hi there. Another telstra desire user here. I've had mine since July, amoled and hboot 0.83. I rooted soon after getting it and have run roms from t-mod and cyanogen from whirlpool.net.au. it's. A great place to start and lots of awesome advice too. I wouldn't be here if not for muskier, Bog, and s-murphy. They have links to radio and roms there. Good luck.
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Sorry I meant to spell muskie and Bof.
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well turns out the 2 radios I flashed happen to be the 2 radios my phoen wont boot with. both of them have _2 at the end. all the rest seem to work fine, I have since updated to the latest radio and im a happy froyo user. as for t-mod, wtf is the point of it lol, my UAstring is not the special telstra one and everything works fine, even data usage
talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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What radio are you running?
How did you do the S-OFF hack? I really want to get rid of the splashscreen...
talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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+1 to talkiet...
I've had about 15 different ROMS and maybe 8 radios on my telstra desire, never had a problem. (mine is the AMOLED version originally HBOOT .75 now .93 version). The only thing that sometimes goes wrong is the APN settings and thats easy to fix.
I'm not sure how all those UA strings work, but to be honest i've not bothered checking my data usage or so on for a fair while, and the Bigpond unmetered sites are pretty worthless anyway. I never go over and I play around with the phone a lot. So, you can put pretty much any ROM on and just tweak the APNs a bit and no worries!
concerning S_OFF,
its not hard to do at all. just follow the instructions on the alpharev site to the letter, I was worried about bricking my phone, same as the first time I put a custom ROM on there, but if you do your homework, you'll be sweet. When you think about it, the S-OFF process is pretty safe as so many people do it and have a look about, there's not many saying they have ruined their phone using the S-OFF program.
The only thing i've actually broken on my phone over the last year is the sd card (very recently), trying to reformat it for data to ext ROM. Of course it was a cheap one and the card that came with the phone (samsung brand i think) worked fine when i formatted it and stuck it in.
Phone: Desire A8183 AMOLED S-OFF
HBOOT .93 and CWM 3.x
ROM: Crystal Kingdom v0.2 D2EXT+ (damo is a legend!!)
htc a8183 show welcom and vibrating
how to s-off this phone
hboot-0.75.0000
radio-4.50.00.11
any one help me
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
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nlooooo said:
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
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lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
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jmcclue said:
lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
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For me it's the easiest way to upload radio and hboot, get s-off with revolutionary then root and you're open to all possibilities...
That RUU is simply made for all Desires, no brick issues, no radio compatibility issues...
So, after finding some amazing Black Friday deals (Inc and Fascinate for free, no activation fee!) I finally decided to get off my 6 month expired t-mobile contract.
Already rooted my girlfriends Galaxy S Fascinate (wow easiest root i've done... also what a beautiful screen.)
Than came all of my confusion regarding my inc.
I upgraded to the latest November update (I know, bad Embrace!) than realized I could not easily root it. It is the SLCD version
After hunting around all of my favorite phone forums I have found a few downgrade guides, and a lot of warning about a screen brick on the SLCD inc.
I have also read that you can downgrade an SLCD with certain rom and recovery packages(amon_ra). But I can not seem to find any clear instructions or any confirmation of what roms work and what do not.
I'm slightly OCD and the VZ bloatware is murder.
I am aware that Unrevoked is working on a fix but I would love to root this thing asap.
Thanks XDA... Second post after many years of lurking.
TL;DR: SLCD Inc, Nov OTA, Need Root.
I would suggest trying to reflash an older 2.1 or 2.2 RUU then root that.
From what I understand using the downgrade methods out there will brick an SLCD screen.
Am I wrong? I would like to think that as long as I am flashing a stock rom it won't brick anything, but If I flash the wrong recovery I will brick it.
Does anyone have any experience downgrading the latest ota with an slcd inc?
I've never had a problem rooting a phone and I rooted at least 20, but for some reason this one scares me D:
I don't have an SLCD so you'll have to wait for somebody else to chime in. As far as I know, the RUU should be fine and flashable in even an unrooted stock HBOOT since it is signed.
I would just make sure that the RUU you are using came from an SLCD phone. An older 2.2 RUU should be fine. Perhaps there are no 2.1 RUUs for the SLCD? I don't really know. But flashing a stock ROM is not going to brick a phone if it came from that phone.
So I cheated.went to Verizon told them I was having random reboots after the latest update... replaces it
Now I'm rooted
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Embrace said:
So I cheated.went to Verizon told them I was having random reboots after the latest update... replaces it
Now I'm rooted
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Whatever works works, but in case anybody else is wondering, it has been confirmed that it does indeed work if you have the latest OTA to simply flash an older RUU through HBOOT, root it and turn S-OFF, and then you can flash whatever you want on it.
I bought my HTC Desire HD a several days ago and it was T-MOB001. When I checked for updates it offered me 1.75. However later I downgraded it and applied radio S-OFF + SuperCID. The only update it offered me was 1.32.405.6 (from 405.3), which I installed. Even 1.72 was not offered to me. Why is there such a difference, 1.32 vs 1.75? After reading some forum posts I was under impression that HTC ROMs are supposed to be more up-to-date since carriers need to apply their customizations. I remember I read somewhere there were some serious bugs in 1.72 and that's why HTC pulled the update, but can't find it anymore. :-/ So is that true? Was 1.72 buggy and is HTC working on fixing it?
Also, does anyone know how update check is performed? What information is sent to HTC servers, what are urls, etc.?
Hi,
I just got a new Verizon HTC One off contract from Best Buy when they were clearing them out for $200 off contract. I'm coming from a Droid 4 running CM 11, so this will be a major speed update for me.
The device is in the original factory state (with the version 10.1.605.8 software) and I have a few questions. I've done some browsing of the forums, but I'm not sure entirely of the current state of things (since a lot of the posts are quite dated at this point).
1. Are there any working method to unlock the bootloader and get S-OFF other than sunshine? This keeping in mine that I'm on the original firmware the phone shipped with and I can basically go up to whatever version I need to. (When I set my wife's phone up, it did every update pushed by Verizon/HTC in order of release until it was current.) I figured I needed to find this out before I did any updates just in case.
2. Are there any potential downsides to obtaining unlocked bootloader and S-OFF other than warranty issues with Verizon (which I won't have any way)?
3. If I do achieve an unlocked bootloader, would I be able to install/run the "HTC One Developer/Unlocked Edition" rom from the HTC website?
4. And would all the component firmwares (HBOOT, radio, etc) be updated auto-magically by running a newer rom? Or would I have to manually update all those myself?
5. Is there any other currently working method of gaining root other than unlocking the bootloader and flashing?
Also, any other suggestions you have would be welcome.
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2875695
Rumrunner will work for you. There is more common questions answered there.
You can ruu and "lock" the bootloader and turn s-on for warranty purposes.
Your warranty is valid for one year with HTC as you bought it brand new. HTC advantage also covers one broken screen for the first 6 months of owning the device.
After you s-off, run the exe ruu for the latest update and you will be on the latest firmware and radio.
Edit: our phone has different mount points so you cannot flash an ruu for a different device (dev edition as well).
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