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[Q] Issues with Unrooting and Updating Kernel, Radio, OS, EtC

I was rooted with Unrevoked forever and running Caulkulins EVio 2.
Ran the unrevoked s-on tool from the How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS thread.
Attempted to run the PC36IMG but it won't load as I get a notification stating that it is older than the 2.2 the phone came with.
I do now have S-On
Did full wipe and factory restore.
I am unable to update radio, Wimax or Kernel.
Downloaded the 2.3 update and it loads about 1/3 of the way and then hangs, giving me a triangle with a yellow exclamation point next to the little green android guy.
I'm thinking that perhaps I am not totally non rooted but I'm not convinced this shouldn't allow me to update from the 2.15.00.09.01 or allow me to replace the 2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e htc--kernel and 18-12#11
Build# is 3.29.651.5CL252548 Release Keys and Software Number 3.29.651.5
Any thoughts or help you could give me?

I guess I must be a problem with no answers?

For one, you don't need to unroot to flash radios.....

This I was aware of but as I am due for an upgrade in three weeks and I was trading the phone in at RS, it made sense to do so.
This still doesn't explain why I can't upgrade, why the radio flash doesn't take, etc

jfenton57 said:
This I was aware of but as I am due for an upgrade in three weeks and I was trading the phone in at RS, it made sense to do so.
This still doesn't explain why I can't upgrade, why the radio flash doesn't take, etc
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Since you are rootless, flash the 3.70.XX RUU and then run update. That should get all updated ...
Although why bother with a trade in?
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Thanks for the RUU recommendation. I tracked down the original non rooted version and it solved all my problems

Downgrading 2.50.405.2 to 1.32 ?

Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks

i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait

I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50

Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long

Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?

+Nybras+ said:
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205

So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD

dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?

Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD

dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0

Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !

Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..

I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome

Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!

gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.

Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!

I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?

Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong

giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread

Incredible 2 Preloaded with 2.3.3

I received an Inc 2 as a replacement phone and it came preloaded with the gingerbread ota.
I have researched various forums and have found some conflicting information. Mainly, this thread serves as a clarification for myself and those that also have gingerbread preinstalled.
1. Is it possible to downgrade to froyo in order to root when the phone comes preinstalled with gingerbread?
2. Is there currently a way, software wise, to root the 2.3.3 gingerbread update?
3. If the answer to the previous questions is no, is it ever going to be possible to install a custom rom and/or gain root access ?
Basically I am trying to decide if I should attempt to exchange it for an Inc2 with the old froyo software installed.
Thanks in advance.

I got lucky, I already replaced fascinate with dinc2 and got it today, however I had froyo on it.
1. no
2. no
3. Wait for an exploit or buy XTC clip.

No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....

AT&T did that with My ARIA when I ordered it it was supposed to have 2.1 (Eclair) on it that was rootable, but by the time I got it they had released 2.2 (Froyo) and they shipped it that way.
I didn't have to wait very long before S-OFF was achieved though.
I imagine some Dev will stumble onto a way to S-OFF the latest OTA.
But If its the latest version I as far as I know you will need an XTC-Clip to get S-OFF.

I had miui on my fassy and miss it greatly
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Guess I can deal with stock for a while, if it becomes too unbearable I'll cough up the money for a clip.

haha you'll have the official MIUI with dinc2. check miui-us's post

deaffob said:
haha you'll have the official MIUI with dinc2. check miui-us's post
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Drooling over that currently haha
At least sense is better than touchwiz

I saw a few guys on here claim to be able to downgrade, but I don't know the truth to that statement. If I was in your position I would look into it, though.
Sent from my ADR6350 using XDA App

From what I can gather, you can only downgrade if your phone was rooted and s-off applied before the gingerbread update. In the case of phones with the preinstalled gingerbread ota it is not possible. Again, I am basically guessing but I believe this to be the case.
If it's true that you can downgrade and root, please correct me immediately lol

I think you're right, if you're S-OFF you can restore back to froyo with an RUU, but the whole point of having S-OFF is to be able to flash unofficial firmware, so if you're already on gingerbread and S-ON you're out of luck for now.
Has anyone confirmed that the XTC clip works for S-OFF on gingerbread?

dogshmog said:
No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....
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There aren't any good roms yet? Really I guess omgb omfgb miui and cm suck lol

dogshmog said:
No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....
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You're right there sent any 'food's roms there are 'great' roms. CM and MIUI are completely stable and considering the fact that software root was just released I would say that's a great sign of things to come. Plus we have some great sense 3.0 roms that are being worked on as we speak. Bottom line is if you want to harness the best of your phone's hardware you'll need s-off.
Software s-off is not yet possible but an xtc clip definitely works. It is a hardware unlock so it doesn't matter which rom you have installed as it does its process in hboot before the rom even loads. The reason software s-off for gb isn't possible yet is because the exploit alpharevx used is patched in gb. I'm sure they'll find a way sooner or later but patience is the key.
This post is not meant to demean anyone just putting nlmy thoughts out there. Oh and by the way this thread probably belongs in the general section
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[Q] Help, please. Need to Root 2.3.4 DINC

Ok, a few users here have offered advice/assistance, but I fear this problem has been forgotten.
I am stuck with an S-ON, 2.3.4 Droid Incredible, and am looking for a way to acquire root again.
This happened a few weeks ago, with the leak of the 2.3.4 OTA. Flashed S-ON via CWM (not aware I would permanently lose Root), then flashed the OTA as PB31IMG.zip in HBOOT.
Now, Unrevoked no longer roots the device. HBOOT will not allow downgrading to a 2.2 IMG, nor will it flash any downgraded Radio/HBOOT versions. I've tried them all from Dougpiston.com, even the signed ones.
I've attempted to contact the folks at Unrevoked about this issue on IRC, but I can't ever get a reliable dialogue going with anyone, and I believe they are busy working on Revolution, for Incredible 2/S & Newer devices.
Throwing my hands up, I even called Verizon, gave them an excuse to send me a replacement, just so I could start fresh with a 2.2 phone, but I am out of warranty.
I really want to enjoy Sense 3.0/MIUI, even Cyanogenmod, but the outlook is not so good.
Is there any solution I haven't tried yet? Please help.

Unless Unrevoked or someone else finds a new root method you're pretty much out of luck.
Sent from my Droid Incredible 3D using XDA App

Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4

resyek83 said:
Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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That's most likely true. 2.3.4 is being pushed out to the Incredible now, so they would probably run the newest RUU on their Incredible devices.

I feel your pain deadsoulboy, and I've seen your posts lamenting your situation on other threads. Only solace I can offer you is that generally the source code and RUU are made available within 30 days of the OTA, at which point the developers are completely free to tear into them with reckless abandon and hopefully the folks at unrevoked figure things out.
It's also distinctly possible that HTC will unlock the bootloader the way it has with others of its handsets, in which case you'll be back in business.
Until then, my friend, I believe you are rootless.

i have the same problem. its been a couple months.... am i still hosed?

Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400

I used Scotty1223's instructions a few weeks ago and it worked like a charm.

So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.

alexyaz said:
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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Check this out. http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html

[Q] n00b wants root - has latest ota.

I'm late on the bandwagon.. my first android phone, Evo4g running GB.
I've had it a few weeks now and also accepted the latest ota a week or two ago.
Hboot 2.16.0001, radio 2.15.00.0008, broadband 2.15.00.0808, kernel 2.6.35.10-g13578ee (or was it cc). Sw 4.53.651.1
what are my chances of rooting and putting on CM71? Base.d on the wiki, it looks like I'm out of luck, even with unrevoked. What about htcdev.net for obtaining s-off?
I'm also confused on how to get back to stock if I ever need to take the phone back (yes, I've read the readfirst doc), including getting rid of cwmod - back to 100% stock. Is there a way to backup my existing rom/kernel/?? and using that as opposed to an older img?
There's just too much info and old threads saying 'latest' to make it confusing. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
As far as what mod to use, I'm anticipating cm71 basically because it looks about the most full featured and stable. I have no idea what 'sense' is other than being htc's launcher. I prefer goLauncherEx so if there's something that sense provides that my underprivileged mind doesn't know about feel free to enlighten me.
thanks tons!!

I second this question, I was given a HTC Evo 4g as a replacement phone from sprint after having 3 Epic 4g's and 2 Nexus S 4g's in 7 months. I would like to root this because it has so many unwanted apps.

Noob wants root? Noob should do some searching first. Answers to literally every question up there are already asked and answered 500 times.

Gusmode said:
I'm late on the bandwagon.. my first android phone, Evo4g running GB.
I've had it a few weeks now and also accepted the latest ota a week or two ago.
Hboot 2.16.0001, radio 2.15.00.0008, broadband 2.15.00.0808, kernel 2.6.35.10-g13578ee (or was it cc). Sw 4.53.651.1
what are my chances of rooting and putting on CM71? Base.d on the wiki, it looks like I'm out of luck, even with unrevoked. What about htcdev.net for obtaining s-off?
I'm also confused on how to get back to stock if I ever need to take the phone back (yes, I've read the readfirst doc), including getting rid of cwmod - back to 100% stock. Is there a way to backup my existing rom/kernel/?? and using that as opposed to an older img?
There's just too much info and old threads saying 'latest' to make it confusing. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
As far as what mod to use, I'm anticipating cm71 basically because it looks about the most full featured and stable. I have no idea what 'sense' is other than being htc's launcher. I prefer goLauncherEx so if there's something that sense provides that my underprivileged mind doesn't know about feel free to enlighten me.
thanks tons!!
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If you have 4.53.651.1, then UnrEVOked should work... not sure on 4.54.651.1, which was the latest OTA security update package, though.
Have you even tried UnrEVOked, yet? Or HTCDEV.com? I would imaging that there is always a way...

ok first of all there are a lot of people here willing to help, but first you need to help yourself. do the research, and find out what method will work to root your phone. then read it at least 3 times. then when you start rooting your phone and get stuck people will be more willing to help. i personally rooted my phone a while ago so i have no idea as to what method would even work for you. second make sure you do a nand back up from your recovery when you get one. that will at least take you back to your stock rom, and to get back to s-on well like i said do the research and read read read. good luck and happy flashing

Here's a hint: WWW.revolutionary.io
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Revolutionary works and will get you rooted, s-off and install a custom recovery in less than 5 min
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Revolutionary is the cat's ass
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With latest ota, use revolutionary like a couple has posted. Unrevoked will not work on the gingerbread firmwares for the EVO. You need revolutionary.
It's simple and straightforward.
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Thanks to all!
The issue was the overabundance of information and trying to weed out the non-current... not that I wasn't searching and reading.
I'm now up and going with synergy RLS1 (non-godmode)+chopsuey9.2.7+Amon RA Style Supersonic recovery 3.07.
Again, thanks for the assist!

right on glad you made it even if you were late to the party have fun and remember to make a back up and wipe wipe wipe happy flashing