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Hey, I'm looking to take some notes on my tab and was looking for some suggestions. I've found a couple cool programs but need a pen.
My noted are almost all math related so equations and such.
Any advice would be very helpful.
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When it comes to capacitive stylus, I believe price is a good signal of quality. I have tried both high end (e.g., boxwave) and low end (generic, bundled with other accessories), and the difference is very noticeable. Good luck taking math notes.... I am an economist and my note-taking involves math too. You are going to have a hard time getting good results. I tried doing this, but had to go back to my clunky convertible tablet to get the results I needed. Unless you get a slate with a digitizer (like the Flyer or the Thinkpad), you are pretty much out of luck.
Your not out of luck... just need this!!
As u guys know capacitive stylus have a very wide point so that it can be recognized by the device, therefore affecting precision. Thankfully some people already came up with a solution. U have to options.
1) DIY fine ponit stylus with materials u can find in ur house... for FREE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM
I found a blog where someone made a more precise intructions .... but I don't
remember the site!
2) Someone took the idea to kickstarter and now they are commercializing there
version of a fine point stylus.... only that it cost around 20-30 bucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpwfoEk0-bY
http://adonit.net/product/7
I just pre ordered one of these bad boys!!!
Hmm, looks intriguing. I'm not holding my breath until this type of technology is proven and reviewed thoroughly. Thanks for sharing.
Edit; Here's the blog with the detailed instructions:
http://tumblr.kinglau.co/post/6442455519/ipadstylusdiy
Will take a look. Still in the market for a tablet. I like tthe 10.1 but would be better if I could take notes.
I find the flyer too small for me and the one that att has is like $800 so I'd rather use paper than that lol.
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check out this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057JAA54
i just ordered one, i guess for $8 it is worth trying
The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x
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Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x
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But its $800 lol
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Doesn't the Lenovo Thinkpad tablet also come with a digitizer and pen?
I'll try the DIY out and let you know how it goes, looks easy enough and I have everything needed. I paid one looks great as well, but I'll wait fir the reviews to roll in. Thank you for showing this to us.
How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.
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How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.
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The Dagi came first than the one i showed u guys... but I've read some reviews and they say that it's hard to get used to because w this one u have to write w a certain angle for it to work at its best.
That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.
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That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.
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You can probably do that using Sketchbook Pro. Just import the image, zoom in on where you need to write, merge the layers when done and save.
I too am looking for something to take notes on. I bought a Flyer and it was pretty inaccurate. This is one of those things where if it isn't done right it will be horrible experience. My best suggestion would be to wait for the Samsung Series 7 Slate. I know its pretty expensive but look at like this it can replace your laptop.
The 12.1 Asus eePad slate (Windows-based) gets good reviews on the note-taking area.
first of all: out there are a varaity of stylus for your tabs and phones. the regular capacitive pens you'll find for a buck or two on ebay are the same as the ones cellphone companies sell for like $20, does are just like using your finger and are only good for people with big/fat fingers since they cant type on keyboard well and other stuff like that without hitting the wrong key. but some genius chinese guy invented this wish you can make at home by yourself without any money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&NR=1&feature=endscreen
but also two companies took this idea and patented it, and here are the results
Dagi:
P501 and P502 (old method with just stylus)
P601 (old method with ink pen in one end and stylus in the other)
P504, P505, P506 and P507 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil)
(the P504 comes in 9 different colors)
P602 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil- and also an ink pen in the other end)
Adonit:
Jot and Jot Pro (The best out there)
I have a Dagi P504 and an Adonit Jot Pro. I use the on my Tab on Sketchbook Pro and other Drawing and Note-Taking apps. They both are very good but the dagi does not have a cap so the point can bend in a backpack or something and the adonit jot pro is very sleek in desing and has a cap. Its up to each ones likes. I paid $18 for the P504 and $30 for the Jot Pro. I bought them on ebay. You can find all of the styles on ebay.
You can find all of the styles on ebay.You will find The Dagi from $15-$30 depending on styles and the Adonit from $25-$45
The idea from the guy on the vid works great too
NOTE: I have the Galaxy Tab 10.1 Galaxy 10.1 owners: You must have root on your device and use TouchScreenTune (free app that fixes your touch screen sensitivity). Otherwise the writing will lag. Link below:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital
i bought dagi p601 from ebay 27$ get conf.email from dagi
The stylus, P602, had already been sent to you by post in Taiwan. The tracking number is. The website for tracking .Please enter the item of International Letters Tracking Service for the tracking. Normally, it takes 7~12 days for the delivery. We will keep following up the delivery process until you get it.
We have uploaded the related demo videos on YouTube and you can search them by the key words of "dagi stylus". Also, welcome to visit our website www.dagi.com.tw for our products in detail.
By the way, we have provided another stylus, P204, to you. It's the gift for you. If you have any comment on the stylus after getting it, please kindly let us know. We will always do our best for the improvement.
Last part i like very much hope one of them will work.I hope ill get it next week and write here if they are good.sorry for bad english
Motorola Stylus pen with Precision Tip
On Motorola site, it says that a Stylus pen with precision tip is becoming available soon. By its picture, it seems that it is indeed precise. On the compatibility tab, it says it is compatible with XYBoard only. Is XYBoard touchscreen different from Xoom? In my opinion, if it is compatible with Xoom, it is compatible with the SGT 10.1, isn't it?
Here's the link for the pen: http://goo.gl/1y6Pb
Hello
I'm using Scetchpad a lot and are now waiting for Photoshop Touch. I see the need for a stylus in the near future.
Anyone know of a good one?
(i've heard the cheap ones have to much friction and have to much resistance)
Thinking of buying this one..
http://www.amazon.com/Newest-Generation-Capacitive-Stylus-Warranty/dp/B004HO86P6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
And here is another thread you can find other opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984096&page=2
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Thinking of buying this one..
http://www.amazon.com/Newest-Generation-Capacitive-Stylus-Warranty/dp/B004HO86P6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
And here is another thread you can find other opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984096&page=2
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I have it. It's fine...nothing earth-shattering, but solid.
I use a Wacom Bamboo, not cheap but bloody good IMO.
Ostylus
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i am using targus.
Works great...
I just ordered an Adonit Jot Pro. I'll let you know how well it works when I get it.
http://adonit.net/product/jot-pro/
I ordered a cheap set from ebay and they were ****, ends were too rubbery and marked the screen protector so be careful which ones you get.
The Adonit Jot Pro is easily the best stylus. It has a clear plastic disc on the tip (instead of a dollop of rubber), so the user can write defined points and lines. It also has good weight to it, which aids in control (better than writing with a hollow plastic).
Also, it comes in a gunmetal gray color-- which kinda matches the xoom.
It is very expensive, though. I ordered mine with fast delivery (because I was so eager to try it). My cost: $46
The Targus is pretty cheap and works great. I got mine from Best Buy.
Stylus
Rocket Fish brand is junk. I had one for about three weeks. Even though I keep the screen clean with a microfiber cloth, the tip got glingy after a while from picking up the grease from my finger tips.
I'm on a Targus now. Had it for three weeks, and it's still working well, though it's starting to get glingy as well.
Interested in hearing how the Adonit Jot Pro works out.
BTW-- Definition of Glingy. Not able to scroll anymore. When you touch the screen and slide, it just selects the first thing it comes across.
Adonit Jot
Ok. For those of you interested in the Adonit Jot....
I have looked at several reviews on youtube about it, more paying attention to the quality and accuracy of the writing, then the opinion of the reviewers. Finally decided to give it a shot. I ordered one of the Adonit Jot's last night, should be here tomorrow. I will post my opinions Saturday night.
I did the Adonit Jot instead of the Jot Pro. Its $9.99 cheaper, allowing me to use the
difference to purchase a package of replacement tips as well. I have already tried a Rocket Fish and a Targus. The Targus is best so far for daily use, for swipping and such. Basically things that don't require a high degree of accuracy. The Jot should be much finer, for writing and drawing. B
UPDATE...
Amazon dropped the ball. It didn't ship until today and won't arrive until Monday. At least I got my shipping charges refunded.... Disappointed though, as I was looking forward to playing around with it this weekend.
Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I am going to surprise the wife with the Adonit Jot Pro and see how she likes it. She wants to start getting away from using the laptop for notes and such when traveling so this should work out well. I will post how it worked once it is in hand.
I wanted a different name, and had to create a new account. Bobbydiv is no longer used. Update, the adonit arrived this morning. It's awesome so far, but only been able to play with it for a few minutes. Will post my opinions tonight.
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Adonit Jot
So, as promised. The Adonit Jot is awesome. Though I'm still getting used to using it, it writes as smooth as butter. There is a little bit of getting used to just how much pressure to apply, but it doesn't take long. One thing that I did notice though. As smooth as it writes, you quickly get used to it as if your writing on paper, and start to let your hand settle like you would on a paper.
It's not a replacement for an everyday stylus. For scrolling, selecting, etc... I still recommend the Targus stylus. For writing and drawing however, I have found no equal. It truly is an amazing stylus. Check out YouTube for some user reviews and video's of people using it, and you'll quickly see.
Hmmm... I've been looking, and I'm not a huge fan of using those massive rubber tips. I was thinking something like this one.
http://ostylus.com/
Has anyone had any dealings with this one?
I just want to say that I purchased the Adonit Jot stylus and it's awesome. It gives the closest approximation to using a pen that I have experienced on a tablet, and is much more enjoyable to use than any other stylus or my fingertip for drawing. I recommend it. I didn't get the Pro version...don't see a need.
I have tried at least 6 different rubber tipped styli out there and they're all about the same. Nothing compares to the iPad Eco Stylus or Sylus Socks Pro from ShapeDad.
I'm new here so I can't post the link but just search on Google for iPad Eco Stylus Shapedad and you'll find his Esty store site.
These are handmade and I have converted seven coworkers to them. Once they tried mine they all went out and bought their own.
I would highly recommend them!
Is anyone using a stylus with the A100? There are times I would prefer writing or tapping things out with a stylus instead of my finger.
I tried this stylus because it actually claimed to work with the Iconia Tab when I bought. But it was unusable and I sent it back. (I could pretty much get a lighter touch and more accuracy with my fist.)
So is it the nature of the screen that a stylus won't work well? Or did I just pick a bad stylus?
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So is it the nature of the screen that a stylus won't work well? Or did I just pick a bad stylus?
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My experience with two different styluses (neither of them is your model) is that they are:
1) - inaccurate - impossible to hit a precise point on the screen.
2) - choppy - cannot draw a continuous straight line in a drawing program.
So for me, a stylus is a complete waste of money. $40 in my case
Personally, I think it's the screen.
I bought a $10 stylus, and it sucked on it.
Then I helped fund the "Cosmonaut" stylus on Kickstarted, so I got one of those for free, and it is absolutely incredible, but it doesn't work on the A100. It is choppy when I draw, like it isn't always conducting.
But when I use it on my phone, or on my sister's iPad, it works flawlessly.
That's why I think it is the screen.
anyone find a working one?
Hi all curious if anyone found a working stylus? I use adobe touch and a working stylus would make my life tons easier? Can anyone confirm if the screen is the real issue? Thanks!
I purchased the Acer stylus official, I must say it is quite accurate, and with the right pressure can make almost a straight line. But the screen is a bit 'too sensitive, should be calibrated.
RangerJay said:
Is anyone using a stylus with the A100? There are times I would prefer writing or tapping things out with a stylus instead of my finger.
I tried this stylus because it actually claimed to work with the Iconia Tab when I bought. But it was unusable and I sent it back. (I could pretty much get a lighter touch and more accuracy with my fist.)
So is it the nature of the screen that a stylus won't work well? Or did I just pick a bad stylus?
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I haven't used many. Most look very bulbous and are enough money that I haven't been willing to try one. The only Stylus I have purchased are the cheap little ones for the Nintendo DS. I payed $4 for a 3 pack of them. They are TINY, but they telescope so you can have one in your change pocket and forget its even there. They have a fine tip but not all that soft. what I like is I can use it to pin-point click small buttons and links easily with them. For less then $1.50 each I like them allot.
I use a cheap Inland Bluetooth mouse at home. It was less then $15 at Fry's and works fine with our device. It makes a nice sort of a remote when watching movies on the TV and the mouse pointer works great for controlling the interface. The scroll wheel works wonders to navigate lists. It also has yet to use up the first pair of AAA batteries I put in it a few weeks ago.
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I haven't used many. Most look very bulbous and are enough money that I haven't been willing to try one. The only Stylus I have purchased are the cheap little ones for the Nintendo DS. I payed $4 for a 3 pack of them. They are TINY, but they telescope so you can have one in your change pocket and forget its even there. They have a fine tip but not all that soft. what I like is I can use it to pin-point click small buttons and links easily with them. For less then $1.50 each I like them allot.
I use a cheap Inland Bluetooth mouse at home. It was less then $15 at Fry's and works fine with our device. It makes a nice sort of a remote when watching movies on the TV and the mouse pointer works great for controlling the interface. The scroll wheel works wonders to navigate lists. It also has yet to use up the first pair of AAA batteries I put in it a few weeks ago.
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Hi sudo
Do the styli from the 3ds actually work with the A100 then? I tried my DS lite styli but they didn't work at all, didn't think they would, I sld my 3DS a long time ago so can try with one of them at the moment
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I bought one at the source for 10$ works great on all my devices
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Hi all,
I'd like to start a bit of a revival in this thread as I'm really craving a decent stylus right now, for a long time I was an expensive fountain pen and notebook guy, still am for some things, but since ICS and me being used to my tablet on my person it's so useful, but I can only type so quickly on a touch screen that I miss shorthand.
Here is a link that surfaced for the iPad, it has a great gamut of styli, http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2925937/best-stylus-ipad-review
I'm wondering what the cosmonaut is like with ICS and build.prop modifications, have you tried this mitch?
For writing consider Adonit Jot - it has some problems (skipping) but they are easy to fix (free replacement discs or conductive greas or... toothpaste) - you will find more on Asus Transformer forum, there is a guy from Adonit answering all questions too.
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For writing consider Adonit Jot - it has some problems (skipping) but they are easy to fix (free replacement discs or conductive greas or... toothpaste) - you will find more on Asus Transformer forum, there is a guy from Adonit answering all questions too.
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Thanks for the tip, I've read that the adonit is the most precise by far, so perhaps this could be a good choice, I can buy them over here in the UK too
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It's from the same seller that sells the Poetic cases so customer service should be stellar if there are any problems. And their keyboard for the 1st gen N7 gets pretty decent reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/Exact-Bluetoo...=8-1&keywords=exact+google+nexus+7+2+keyboard
Here are the reviews for the 1st gen:
http://www.amazon.com/Exact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Rubberized-Non-Slip/dp/B00AD9RLJ6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_2
This is exactly what I came here looking for: a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my Nexus 7. For $10, I think I'll pull the trigger. The reviews of the first-gen aren't too promising, but it seems like they took care of a few of the concerns voiced in those reviews (the Tab key, etc.). I guess I'll find out whether or not I like it when it gets here. Again, for $10, why not?
I figured the same. I've spent 10 bucks on dumber stuff than this...let's give it a try.
Wow... $10 looks like a steal for that keyboard; I bought what looks like the same one for 3 times as much off ebay.
If it is the same one, I like it a lot less than the model for the original Nexus 7. The ridge around it (the silver part) is actually taller for some reason -- though the entire thing is still slimmer thanks to the nexus 7 itself being slimmer -- but the worst part is the fit; it's loose, the tablet slides around (horizontally if you are reading the nexus logo straight on.) (If the "Exact" model DOESN'T have that issue please let me know so I can get one. )
None of that is a deal breaker for me though; I still like the case enough to use it. Keeps the screen protected and clips in and out, then lets you type when you need to.
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If anyone who gets this case can post some pics and reviews, that would be much appreciated. I'm looking for a good, no frills keyboard, and this could be it.
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By the time someone gets it and posts a review, they're probably going to raise the price. They always start off with an introductory promo price like they did with the Poetic case. FWIW, the same keyboard for the old N7 is $18.95.
I should've bought it last night. The price has already doubled & jumped to $19.95.
Damn, I wanted it for 10 bucks. I'll wait for it.
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See edit; the issue outlined in the following paragraph has been remedied:
Well I got mine today, and I have to say, I'm kind of disappointed. It fits the tablet perfectly when closed, but it JUST misses the mark when standing it up. It seems like the lip where the bottom part of the tablet hits, to prevent it from falling over, is around half a millimeter too long, the tablet almost catches, but doesn't quite do it. I think just a little bit more of the tablet needs to get underneath it, and it'll catch. I have some pics that I took; I'll upload them later tonight or early tomorrow (I don't usually post from the mobile app).
That aside: I really like this case. It fits the N7 snugly when closed, the keyboard part works well, and it seems like it would protect the tablet if one should need it. I would be extremely satisfied with this keyboard/protector if only the tablet stood in it. I'll try to contact customer service and let them know the critical design flaw so they can remedy it ASAP.
EDIT:
OK, never mind the first paragraph. Figured it out. The little rubber strip down in the groove where the tablet sits to stand up wasn't fully glued down so the tablet was sitting higher than it should have been. After pressing the strip down to be flush with the bottom of the groove, the tablet now stands up. I'm happy now. After using it this weekend I'll edit this post with a review after using it a few days.
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Hmm it looks like a nice keyboard but is it stable? Like it looks like a small tap and Itll come off and fall off ...which wouldn't be nice for my Nexus
I ended up getting this Logitech keyboard from Ebay. It doesn't function as a case like the Exact keyboard but it's longer so typing should be more comfortable. Won the auction for $16 including shipping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
Mine showed today as well. Very happy for 10 bucks. Works a treat.
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I ended up getting this Logitech keyboard from Ebay. It doesn't function as a case like the Exact keyboard but it's longer so typing should be more comfortable. Won the auction for $16 including shipping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
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I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I'll let you know when I get it and try it out.
how much battery does a bluetooth keyboard drain off the tablet?
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how much battery does a bluetooth keyboard drain off the tablet?
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Directly? None.
Indirectly (meaning requiring the Bluetooth antenna be on at all times)? Very little in the grand scheme of things.
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I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I received it today and briefly tested it. Didn't experience any repeated inputs.
I really like it so far. Very comfortable to type on and the function keys work well except for the browser key which kind of sucks. I'm wondering if there's any way to map that key to open a 3rd party browser.
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I received it today and briefly tested it. Didn't experience any repeated inputs.
I really like it so far. Very comfortable to type on and the function keys work well except for the browser key which kind of sucks. I'm wondering if there's any way to map that key to open a 3rd party browser.
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Thank you for your input, I might go ahead and buy that
I purchased this keyboard because for $10 why not. The build quality is nice, connecting to bluetooth is simple and it works, it functions well, the rechargeable battery is nice and everything. I especially like that it clips on to the N7 but that's also the 2 issues I have with the keyboard. 1 being it's a bit too small for my comfort and 2 being that the clip right by the space bar makes it difficult to hit the space bar. It's not really the keyboard fault I guess, those 2 things are sacrificed for the convenience of having it clip onto the N7 (though I do have a case already, it makes it easier to be able to carry the KB together with the case, haven't used my N7 outside the house yet however). For what I paid it's great, I wouldn't send it back but it still doesn't make typing that much easier for me. Trust me I'm trying to get better with typing on it, I've typed about those damn quick brown foxes so many times but I just end up making so many typos.
The only other keyboard I was looking at was the $40 Logitech one but it's pretty bulky for a 7 inch tablet (though that's probably the smallest it can get without sacrificing functionality) , it takes 4 batteries and I hear it has issues with the latest Jelly Bean. So whatever, for $10 I'll take what I can get.
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The only other keyboard I was looking at was the $40 Logitech one but it's pretty bulky for a 7 inch tablet (though that's probably the smallest it can get without sacrificing functionality) , it takes 4 batteries and I hear it has issues with the latest Jelly Bean. So whatever, for $10 I'll take what I can get.
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I think you're referring to this Logitech keyboard I posted above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
I haven't had any issues with it. I wouldn't necessarily call it bulky but yea, it's nowhere close to as compact as the Exact keyboard. I was willing to sacrifice a little size for typing comfort though. Got it for $16 on an Ebay auction.
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I think you're referring to this Logitech keyboard I posted above.[/url]
I haven't had any issues with it. I wouldn't necessarily call it bulky but yea, it's nowhere close to as compact as the Exact keyboard. I was willing to sacrifice a little size for typing comfort though. Got it for $16 on an Ebay auction.
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Nice, that's a steal at $16 and it looks like it actually functions as a great keyboard. I personally love Logitech products, I haven't seen much negative about that keyboard (aside from the batteries imo, is it 4 AAA? Some reviews said only 2 but some say 4)and I'd probably buy it also if I could find it for around that price. Bulkys not the word so much as not as convenient relative to the Exact.. I originally wrote too big for a 7 inch tablet, carrying it around and everything, though it really needs to be that big for functionality but yea, if you need to actually write some lengthy stuff on the go then it's worth the trade off.
Hello Everyone,
I am going to be getting a Nexus 7 for Christmas this year with plans to use it at the office, particularly to take to meetings for note-taking and sharing PDF's of plans and reports (I'm a civil engineer). I've been doing some research on gear and believe I'm going to want an external keyboard, but don't know exactly which way to go. I've read lots of mixed reviews on the keyboard cases such as this one. Some say they're great, others say they're too small to be useful (and I have pretty big hands).
I've read awesome reviews on this keyboard as well as this one. But I'm not sure how I would easily transport the tablet and keyboard.
In addition, I'll need some sort of case I would imagine. I've got all these thoughts going through my head and would like some advice from you guys on things that have worked for you
Don't buy the keyboard cases if I were you. It's pretty hard to type on I have big hands and was just not comfortable at all to type on it. Ended up returning two keyboards very similar to those. I guess they can't really make a very comfortable keyboard in a7 inch form factor so can't really blame them. I'm in the same boat as you I would like to get some sort of case what the keyboard so that I can carry my tablet with me all together. I'm still on the quest to looking for a nice keyboard case. But if you really want to be comfortable and typing something thats really usable then get just a normal Bluetooth keyboard full-size.
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you Might be best to go for a case like this http://www.xtremecables.net/7inchneoprenecase.aspx so you can carrry KB too if it fits or even a larger 10" neoprene case. I really like the neoprenecases myself. Man purse
I've been looking at the Stealth Pro case by M-Edge, but only because I have a ridiculous discount; the cost would be prohibitive otherwise.
Trouble is, no one seems to have reviewed it. The feel of a keyboard is personal but crucial, so I hesitate to experiment (even at $40) when I'm fairly sure I'd like the Logitech 760.
Pity the Microsoft Wedge Mobile is said to have connection issues. It seems like the best ergonomic compromise (the slant of the raised keyboard looks perfect for typing) and comes with a useful case that "powers down the device when attached," doubles as a tablet stand and adds a lovely silver border around the relatively large keys.
I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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joelcripes said:
I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
Reignogleph MMXI said:
As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
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Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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joelcripes said:
Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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Nice. How's the typing on it?
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joelcripes said:
Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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joelcripes said:
Nice. How's the typing on it?
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
So here's another question. Has anyone used a stylus to write notes on their Nexus "by hand"?
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
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I own devices which run on four platforms at the moment: Windows, OX X, Linux and Android (though you could argue I've only listed three platforms, since Android = Linux).
Since Logitech is the only option with a lit keyboard, I might get one for home use at some point.
Logically, the Anker is the one to get for the road and for everything but Windows 8.
That said, I was able to use a discount code on the Mobile Wedge (W8) from Office Depot and thought I'd try it, since the price has only climbed everywhere else. Some people have complained about connection issues; I'll let you know how it fares.
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
I also think that users' idiosyncrasies and abuse-case scenarios are too disparate for keyboard generalizations to ever prove universal. Sparksd makes a fair point, but it isn't always applicable (though it might be to the OP's concerns).
In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
I'm sure I'll find the Wedge Mobile and the Anker infinitely more intuitive than SwiftKey (which I also own). The only thing I'm unsure of is whether the Wedge will disappoint in terms of holding its bluetooth connection.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
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In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
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Quite the contrarian!
I learned initially on a mechanical typewriter that weighed more than I did (or so it seemed). I type over 100wpm when I'm copying text or writing something I've pre-composed in my head, and 80+wpm if I'm composing while I write.
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard. Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions. Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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Quite the contrarian!
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If I'm the contrarian, then why are you the one who posted on a thread asking for the best scaled-down keyboard just to say they're all useless?
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard.
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You're presupposing that every user expects the same experience from a smaller keyboard as a larger one -- as opposed to an improved experience for an individual with specific preferences.
Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
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Your extended use of the second person implies you feel that your optimal experience is normative. And while I appreciate the specificity of your preferences, and don't doubt that many people would agree with them, I have to point out that your preferences aren't mine, which is an indication that you don't speak for everyone.
What I'm after is stochastic precision of thought as opposed to pure speed. I revise heavily, so there are times when haste is actually a deterrent. When I write, I feel most alive not when thought is quickest but when word alchemy is purest.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions.
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The entire experience of SwiftKey is predicated on the ease of use afforded by predictive text. The idea is that it learns what the user does repeatedly, which is fine if one's intention is to repeat oneself and if one's style is not felicitously idiosyncratic.
Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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Whereas my experience is that SwiftKey's substitutions are almost never correct. Google's were actually more accurate, but neither VK is satisfactory when I'm writing fiction.
I don't mind lingering over text while I'm writing. The speed afforded by the keyboard needn't be Andretti-fast. What must never happen is for the AI to insert banal words and syntax continuously while I'm confecting sentences deliberately.
Everyone has their own preferences when seeking tools for specific work. I picked up my Mobile Wedge two nights ago and, so far, it's been aces. No bluetooth dropouts, perfect form factor, extremely useful keyboard cover / tablet stand and very reasonable output. The Anker has more versatile keyboard mapping (separate maps for android, windows and mac; the home button really takes you to the home page, unlike the Wedge's), but I bought a keyboard for writing, not navigating the desktop.
Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
joelcripes said:
Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
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I could probably get used to Anker's right shift key, eventually, but not comfortably. The Lumsing looks so nice that I'm tempted to get one. Overall I think the relatively few reviews are still pretty good.
Not related to office but I find at home, I use a case to stand it up then fire up my PS3 controller and rock on emulators and play the classic games, plenty of games on the Market but there's something special about playing nostalgia games. Just another use for the tab if your into gaming.