What should I know before root? - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What should I know before I run z4root? What will I loose? What should I backup? Where do I need to look to find progys that need reinstalled.
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you might find your answer here. there is a 7 minute video about it.

Rooting wont cause you to lose any apps or data.

What root is.
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All root does is give you the ability to change things you couldn't change otherwise. You won't lose anything by rooting. No reinstalling necessary.
If you get the oneclick 2.5.5, it will root AND give you clockworkmod recovery which will allow you to do full back ups of your phone.

To use oneclick 2.5.5 I would need a pc correct? I currently don't have access to one so I was hopeing to use the z4root app and be able to install clockwork is this possible?
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Troubleshooting z4root

I have an Evo and tried to use z4root to temporarily root it so I can use Titanium Backup. z4root says it is rooted, but TB says it cannot get root permissions.
How can I troubleshoot z4root to see why it's failing?
I don't want to do a factory reset to use z4root, because the point to using it and TB is to backup my phone the way it is so if I ever DO have to do a factory reset I don't have to reconfigure/reinstall everything from scratch.
Do you have busy box installed? It's available in titanium backup and that might help.
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I had the same exact issues.
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are you using any kind of antivirus on your phone? You could also try using a task killer before hand
Busybox is installed. No antivirus. I did a reboot, which should kill any tasks not normally running on the phone.
I'm not familiar with how z4root works so maybe it doesn't give enough permission for titanium backup to work. I really don't know why that wouldn't work though.
When it fails you have to restart you're phone before trying again or it is guaranteed to fail.
If you post your logcat it may show something
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Quick root and unroot

Is there a way to root the phone, and so I could delete all this verizon bloatware, and then unroot without any restoration of the original ROM? If so please let me know!! Thanks!
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Once you root just remove bloatware using something like Titanium Backup. Once rooted you do not have to modify anything else with roms and etc., your phone will be the same setup as your used so now you can remove bloatware.
Is there any reason you need to unroot?
I was just curious if it could happen... But now searching XDA about info on the new gb update I wouldnt need to unroot so just disregard that lol.

Temp root 2.3.4/hboot .98?

My wife allowed the 2.3.4 update to run before letting me root for her. Now, she desperately wants root, but doesn't want to lose her application data (mostly she's concerned about Angry Birds I think).
I tried the temp root for the Rezound which uses zergrush and was able to get SU access via ADB and was able to momentarily install su, busybox and SuperUser, however, TiBu had a bunch of problems. A few times is wasn't able to get su access. Others it reported no hypershell. I did get everything going once, but the batch backup died at the first application.
Has anyone found a method that allows temp root on the dinc2 2.3.4? I'm perfectly willing to do the downgrade to get s-off/unlock the phone, but the wife wants her data.
Why don't you just back up the entire sdcard? My wife was big on plantz vs zombies and a couple of other games.. I just copied the whole Sdcard.. downgraded and rooted.. replaced everything back into the Sdcard once it was rooted and all I had to do then was redownload the application. All the save data was still there..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13573633
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faehsemc said:
Why don't you just back up the entire sdcard? My wife was big on plantz vs zombies and a couple of other games.. I just copied the whole Sdcard.. downgraded and rooted.. replaced everything back into the Sdcard once it was rooted and all I had to do then was redownload the application. All the save data was still there..
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To my knowledge, .android-secure doesn't just copy to a fresh ROM. If I can't find a way to temp root, I may have to try that though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13573633
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Thanks, I've been through that thread several times and the old method doesn't work on 2.3.4.
Bump once more in the probably vain hope that someone has been successful.

"S-On?"

I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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HTC devices. Do a little more reading and you'll find the difference, I find Sammy devices are a lot easier to play with compared to HTC, having owned several of both.
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There is no such thing as S-on and S-off on Samsung devices as they already ship with an unlocked bootloader. If you are doing a factory reset on any phone, all of the system apps should be wiped as well, so I don't really understand your question.
odrecords said:
I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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Don't worry, I understand what you're talking about.
Started happening with the Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile as well since the most recent JB update
You "freeze" an app in Titanium Backup, and it freezes just fine, but after the very next reboot that app is back in action and active in the background. Very frustrating, I know.
The two apps I noticed this with were T-Mobile's My Account app and Zynga games (really??)
Here's the solution - uninstall the offending apps. That'll teach em!
Uninstalling works just fine, but for example when I install the older version of YouTube (which I prefer over the new) and restart my phone, the version it ships with is reinstalled.
Also, when I flash a zip that installs the apk into the system app folder, it gets wiped after a reboot.
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I know that there were two files you had to remove to prevent reboots from reflashing stock recovery, I would imagine this is the same thing - problem is, I don't know what files to remove (I don't have the Note 2 yet so I can't go poking around to look for them)
But I am sure you can find/remove them.
This is why I stick with CM10, I can't stand the control T-Mobile and Samsung try to maintain on our devices
I can't find the info! BTW, the search function on the mobile app is not very good. Haha
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odrecords said:
I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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there is no s-on or s-off for samsung, thats just a htc thing. you root, install cwm w/ Su and you're done.

[Q] Need help since I'm new to Sammy

Earlier this week my Sensation 4g died. I bought a Note 2. Little did I know that there were issues with it that I and others have with it, ie: no easy immediate way to do app to sd for instance. Another thing I wanted was to be able to add or take away data from installed apps by connecting the phone to a computer via usb and accessing the files that way, which again doesn't happen without some work.
Since then I have rooted the phone (according to the download mode screen, which says: current binary and system status is custom.
I have left everything stock except for the rooting part and installed Superuser and SuperSU and then tried to run Titanium Backup (free) when it said 'could not access root using \something\something\su command".
I have tried several other apps and methods of trying to do what I want (from the first paragraph) but none have succeeded either due lack of documentation (and I didn't know how to do a certain step or fix something) or it just didn't work.
So where am I at now? I have factory reset my phone and am now honestly not sure where to go or what to do from here. I've Googled and Googled but nothing quite seems to be able to fix what I need and if it does then it has the lack of documentation and can't help me.
Any thoughts or guides or something that anyone could post/link to? Thanks.
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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funziebear said:
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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If I'm not mistaken but kernels don't deal with being able to save apps to sd. I could be wrong since I don't dabble in android dev. Thanks though.
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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PhxDroid86 said:
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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Thanks. I did answer that I am running everything stock at the moment, just rooted, no kernel or rom. I have an 8gb class 4 microsd card. My root method was cf auto root. I also stated what I was hoping to achieve also (in my first paragraph). Hopefully this helps.
Oh, if possible I'd like the easiest way to remove or disable system apps like chat on or some of the tmobile stuff. I tried a couple different methods with that too but couldn't quite get it all to work.
I tried the qtadb app but couldn't get my device to be seen by the program on the computer and i tried that app because I had no idea where to start with regular adb, its been a long time since i've done any of this stuff.
To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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Hmm ok thanks. I'll try those out when I get a chance. Thanks.
I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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Doesn't that just lead back to my first problem of not being able to get Titanium Backup to run on my phone?
Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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PhxDroid86 said:
Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
CTR01 said:
Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Much easier to use odin from mr robinson. Its already been prerooted
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