Is apps2[ext]sd only for G1 users?
I am running virtuous rom and i'd love to move my apps to my 16gb sd.
Any thoughts on this?
garz said:
Is apps2[ext]sd only for G1 users?
I am running virtuous rom and i'd love to move my apps to my 16gb sd.
Any thoughts on this?
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Apps2sd and Apps2ext are two diffrent things. Froyo has apps2sd built into it, under applications/manage you can change the stroage location on apps that allow it, also there are some rooted apps2sd apps that allow you to move apps to the sd card, but all of these methods store the apps on the FAT format of the sd card. The old style apps2ext is only avalible on Enoms rom, it stores the apps on the ext. partition, so the ext. partition is mounted by the system and the phone see's it as internal storage. I was running Enoms rom before I flashed Gingerbread, and it worked great, just partition your sd card with a ext. file partition.
I'd love to see the real A2SD (not the Fat32 version) incorporated into the cooked Gingerbread builds.
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blackknightavalon said:
I'd love to see the real A2SD (not the Fat32 version) incorporated into the cooked Gingerbread builds.
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Sweet! Somebody brought this topic back up. I've tried every style of a2ext, edited some, and nothing seems to work except Enom's rom. I love his rom and it's my main one but I hate not having the desire to switch due to the lack of a2ext for this phone. With other phones you just flash a package (like Darktremor) type a couple commands in terminal and you're done.
There's this stubborn concept about this phone - we have ~2GB of memory, why would we ever need a2ext? Well because those 2 gigs are not a full 2 and, well, because we can. If that's not what android and xda are about then why do they even exist? I'm not advanced enough to create the package but I have some skill, I'd jump right in with the right help... any takers?
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So i know on my magic i always had a Swap partition, EXT, and fat32...
Seems like when i got my Evo, the SD card only had a fat32 and no EXT.
When installing custom roms, Should i just go ahead and reformat the card with EXT or do we not need it on the Evo. From what i know of the EXT partition and working with my magic for so long, i would assume it still needs to be there but it was just odd that it wasn't there from the factory when i got my phone.
TIA
IMO, a2sd isn't necessary on this one
I have almost 60 apps installed (including the behemoth Google Earth), yes I know how ridiculous that is, and I still have over 200MB internal storage free.
The EXT2/3 and Swap partitions didn't come stock on your Magic, either.
It's up to you. Like nebenezer said, it's really not necessary on this device. The only reason I'm running a2sd is so that I don't have to mess around with reinstalling all my apps when testing out new ROMs. That's really the only reason at this point why a2sd would be an advantage. In fact, unless you're using a class 6 SD card (which the provided card is not), it actually probably slows down the phone a bit when launching applications.
Ahhh.. So EXT is pretty much only for A2SD? Thought there was some other info on there...
And i know what swap is..
Cool. THX
frettfreak said:
Ahhh.. So EXT is pretty much only for A2SD? Thought there was some other info on there...
And i know what swap is..
Cool. THX
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pretty much, you can move dalvik to sd and I think data/data too but like CentroniX said unless you have a c6 or greater card your better off skipping a2sd on this phone.
Not having to reinstall your apps is convenient but when I flash a new rom I wipe EVERYTHING anyways. I always like to start with a clean flash so if there are any problems I know its not one of my apps. Plus titanium backup makes it very easy to restore everything.
For the App2sd function of Froyo 2.2, I had set default to install the applications to SD card and all the "Move to SD" button can work. However, I find that some application still use up the internal memory, e.g. 10Mbs application can only move 5Mbs to SD card.
May I know any different between the 2.2 App2sd and that of custom Rom?
Is the App2sd of custom Rom (i.e. the one need to create ext2/3/4 on SD card) can move all the whole application to SD card and will not use up the internal memory?
Thanks!
There are essentially 3 forms of A2SD:
1. Froyo A2SD - moves the application (from /data/app) to the FAT32 partition of the SD card. Does not touch the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) or the application data (/data/data).
2. Legacy A2SD - moves the application (from /data/app) to an EXT partition of the SD card. Does not touch the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) or the application data (/data/data).
3. Legacy A2SD+ - moves the application (from /data/app) and the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) to the EXT partition of the SD card. Does not touch the application data (/data/data).
Options 1 and 2 should be pretty much identical in terms of internal storage usage, and option 3 should save the most space.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that any attempt to move /data/data to SD card causes a lot of instability, which is surprising because I would have thought that the Dalvik cache would have been more problematic.
The long and short of it is that there is no way to stop applications from consuming storage if they use /data/data. A prime example is Google Earth, which still consumes a lot of internal memory regardless of A2SD because of the data in /data/data.
Personally, I use Froyo A2SD, with the fusecompress mod to compress the Dalvik cache in internal memory.
Regards,
Dave
kitkit1981 said:
For the App2sd function of Froyo 2.2, I had set default to install the applications to SD card and all the "Move to SD" button can work. However, I find that some application still use up the internal memory, e.g. 10Mbs application can only move 5Mbs to SD card.
May I know any different between the 2.2 App2sd and that of custom Rom?
Is the App2sd of custom Rom (i.e. the one need to create ext2/3/4 on SD card) can move all the whole application to SD card and will not use up the internal memory?
Thanks!
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legacy apps2sd that comes native in froyo, just moves the .apk to the sd card, and not all apps can be moved. apps2sd+ that comes with custom roms, creates a parallel file system identical to that of androids but on your sd card, then points your device to the sd card as the install location, this means alot less space is taken up on your device, some install data is sometimes still stored on your device but for example i have over 200 apps on my desire and some of them are quite large, rockplayer/nfs shift/ 5 or 6 gameloft games ect and i still have over 50mb free
Thanks for your reply, I have a clear concept of these two app2sd now
So i just root my unbranded HTC Desire with Android 2.2 (from holland)
I rooted with the unrevoked method. Link here
I wanted to root because i was in need of ROM, only had 15MB left and everything was already on my SD card installed the normal way.
also with the "forced install to sd" method i was still in need of more ROM.
Like in the post above i just want to have 400 apps installed.
So i need a custom rom.
Now i have notes that if i install a custom 2.2 froyo rom i may have difficulties with bluetooth or fm-radio and maby other problems.
I have also heared about htc releasing source codes and now it should be possible to work around or fix those problems i just mentioned.
anyways I am still n00b in this all and doing allot of research for now. I just want to have a rom that would be the same as what i have now(WORKING WITHOUT PROBLEMS AND NO BUGGES) but with the app2sd in it so that i can have 300 apps and still have free memory.
so could somebody tell me what to do? is there already a custom rom out that works perfect, or i should stick with my rom, or what about OpenDesire
Well hope somebody can help me out with some wisdom.
Cheers and thanks in advanced.
DesireDroid
nobody can help me out?
is there an custom rom that works with fm radio and bluetooth and camera and all and has the htc sense in it?
or should i figure out to make my own custom rom?
DesireDroid said:
nobody can help me out?
is there an custom rom that works with fm radio and bluetooth and camera and all and has the htc sense in it?
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Most custom Sense ROMs are fine.
The "issue" I think you are referring to is that Sense ROMs do not support the Bluetooth HID profile so cannot utilize a Bluetooth keyboard, whereas AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod do support Bluetooth HID but the FM radio doesn't work.
Having said all that, I'd imagine that 300+ apps is probably an unrealistic target on any ROM due to the data stored in /data/data. It might be possible if the specific apps don't have much of a /data/data requirement, but in general I'd say it was unlikely.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Most custom Sense ROMs are fine.
The "issue" I think you are referring to is that Sense ROMs do not support the Bluetooth HID profile so cannot utilize a Bluetooth keyboard, whereas AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod do support Bluetooth HID but the FM radio doesn't work.
Having said all that, I'd imagine that 300+ apps is probably an unrealistic target on any ROM due to the data stored in /data/data. It might be possible if the specific apps don't have much of a /data/data requirement, but in general I'd say it was unlikely.
Regards,
Dave
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k having that said, i was thinking of buying a 16gb microsdhc class 6 card.
but, well i didn't know about the bluetooth HID , still is it hard to build up my own custom rom?
I mean, getting for example my current rom and modding things. or getting an official rom from htc and modding that?
try different roms and see which one is the best. Defrost, Opendesire, Aurax, or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
all of them are great but the best depends on your taste and expectatives.
k making a backup now.
I think i go try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
I have a 4gb microSD card, so i read that to enable a2sd+ i need to repartition the sd card. can this be done from the phone? i got the clockworkmod recovery.
and shall i make it 1GB so i can install more apps? just thinking crazy.
"is this Rom Manager in the android market?"
Hi,
I have rooted froyo 2.2 with App2Sd enabled and always move everything that possible to the Sd card. In spite of that, I have only 20Mb free space left (I use Android System info app). I have 8GB 6class samsung Sd card and did the partitions as said in guides.
how can I have more space to install more apps or I stuck and just have to decide what important and what not ?
Thanks.
what App2SD?
The native Froyo one or the App2SD+?
The native Froyo one does not move the whole app. Just take a look in the app listing and you'll see how much space it occupies on the internal RAM and how much it occupies on the SD card. You also can't move every app, e.g. no widgets.
The App2SD+ moves all apps to the SD-Card, including cache. But even then the more apps you install the less internal memory is available. That's because of a process I don't exactly remember Some apps unpack stuff which gets copied to the internal data partition, and I don't talk about the cache. Don't know for sure, but you should find it with the search.
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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Lior84 said:
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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?? how shall you check the App2SD Version. You either use the + one, by using an EXT2/3 partition and a proper ROM and not moving the apps manually, it gets done automatically, or you use the Froyo one, by moving each app manually to the SD card in the app settings.
To get APPS2SD+ you need a properly set EXT2/3 partition and then flash a ROM supporting it (like Leedroid if you like a Sense ROM, or DeFrost, Opendesire if you like an AOSP ROM), that's it.
..available for download in the market. App size reduced to 10,96 Mb (before:12,39)
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Grabbed this - its nice its smaller than the last release, but I still think it'd be nicer if they could have shipped off the 4.5mb(?) apk to the sd card... I am still teetering on the edge of having the annoying 'you are low on space' message everytime my cache on maps/facebook gets too large.
Yeah.. It downloads at 4.5Mb but installs at 16.34MB. It's annoying How phone manufacturers missed out on giving us more internal memory or providing complete App2SD thing
Thanks for the heads-up.
BTW guys, I just installed a custom ROM that had A2SD+(LeeDroid), and I've never had to worry about the low disk space error. I hope you could try it too.
You would get decreased performance and it would not work when SD card is mounted on your PC if placed on SD card with froyo apps2sd
_Dennis_ said:
You would get decreased performance and it would not work when SD card is mounted on your PC if placed on SD card with froyo apps2sd
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been using A2SD+ for awhile now (which is different from froyo A2SD) and i don't notice decrease in performance at all
Stock FroYo A2SD won't allow it to be moved as it's a system app. only using A2SD+ in a custom ROM will move it (and it has no affect on performance)
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Stock FroYo A2SD won't allow it to be moved as it's a system app. only using A2SD+ in a custom ROM will move it (and it has no affect on performance)
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FWIW, I'm using "Stock Froyo A2SD" on a custom ROM (MCR9) and I've moved Flash to SD card (i.e. on the FAT32 partition) without issue and there's no performance penalty.
I can't see any reason why I'd want to use Flash whilst my SD card is mounted on my PC, so this has never been an issue IMHO.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for this but I was forced to revert back to the prior version. It took up a whopping 12Mb storage space and there's no way I can afford to lose that. As I'm all Stock Froyo I cannot move anything to do with Flash .
My phone then starting complaining that it's run out of space. Grrr.
can any1 please upload this exact version on 4shared / rapidshare ?
thanks in advance
Here is my backup.
Thats the only app I cant move to my sd card .... I have added the tweak ... so by default eveything installs to the SD card .. bar it looks like .. preinstalled stuff... I have not got root yet ...
Do any of the 3 "major" AOSP ROMs (Deck, SM, CM7) fully support ext3 partitions on MicroSD cards "out of the box" without any mods? I know Deck & CM will allow for moving any apps to SD, I just want to know if they'll move them to the ext3 partition or to the FAT32 partition.
No, CM7 doesn't have ext support built in. Since deck is based on it, i doubt it does either. SM i'm not sure about, but I don't think so.
Add-ons like Dark Tremor do work though.
Thanks a bunch! As soon as I get around a computer I'll thank you via the button. I just wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if I should partition my SD card. Guess not.
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mike.r.olson said:
Thanks a bunch! As soon as I get around a computer I'll thank you via the button. I just wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if I should partition my SD card. Guess not.
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I wouldn't say you shouldn't. If you need more space than you can get with any other method, it's a good way to go. I'm an apps junkie and I've got about 400 apps installed. You just have to do some extra steps to add it.