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Hi all,
I got my Desire HD about 4 weeks ago, and used it quite a lot, with barely any apps installed. (I never use app killers by the way) Over time i realised it was actually acting quite slow for a phone with it's spec, so i asked Vodafone and they sent me another one.
My new one, that i've had for 2 weeks now is still slow for what i would expect from a phone like this, and i'm not just being fussy either.
My friend has an X10 mini, and was showing me the other day, and i was shocked at how much more responsive and faster it is than my Desire HD, so i looked up lag issues and found xda developers.
I tried enabling USB debugging, checked for the latest update, rebooted etc.. it feels like i'm only getting, what... 25 frames per second at best? usually looks about 20 (in menus) when compared to my friends X10 mini, his looks as if it's easily scrolling up and down the drop down or popup menu with all of your apps in it, at 60 frames, (something above 30 anyway with NO lag whatsoever) and i have yet to flick my menu without seeing some degree of jitter while scrolling. I downloaded the Quadrant Benchmark and found I got 2002 Points, which when looked at in the graph.. there is no way the x10 mini could even scratch the DHD's score... so...
WHY does my phone feel sluggish? Is this normal or should I be concerned?
Thanks
-J
Here is what i did:
- Install ES Task Manager and add the widget and run it often. (Make sure to add the apps to the ignore list that you do not want to close)
- Remove as many widgets as possible from screen
- Install LauncherPro (It speeded things up a hell of alot for me)
- And most importantly, if your SD Card has a lot of stuff on it (Music etc) then delete as much as you can. The less on your SD Card the faster it will be.
I've Tried that...
Hey, before I wrote this, I tried formatting the phone and did a factory reset, the menu STILL lags and jitters quite a bit. Surely this isn't supposed to happen on a fresh version of the phone with NO user junk on there? and I've heard that task kilelrs are bad for the system, usually doing more damage than good.
Do you have anything on the SD Card?
I am not sure about that, the task manager on mine seems to be very good, i have stopped it from closing important apps which need to be open though.
Hmmm
No i don't have much on the SD, olny the files that the phone adds itself, i tried removing all of my user data already, still no sucess.
Try the task manager if you wish. It works perfectly fine for me and i have been using it for months.
OK
I just tried the task manager... made a little difference, but the menus still lag!
Try turning Auto Sync off for a while too... I am unsure why the menus are lagging. Mine seem fine. What menus lag?
The one where you tap the arrow in the bottom left, and all of your apps are on one page lags the worst. sometimes scrolling on the home screen too.
install launcherpro!!! the menu will ALLWAYS be laggy on ****ty HTC Roms..
brugernavn said:
install launcherpro!!! the menu will ALLWAYS be laggy on ****ty HTC Roms..
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Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
dr.m0x said:
Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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What sort of setup do you have on your phone? What apps etc?
I don't have any performance issues with my stock DHD. I even have a bunch of widgets too.
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Why would htc release a laggy OS? surely that isn't a very good selling point for their top device?
I don't think they did.
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Jord-22 said:
Why would htc release a laggy OS? surely that isn't a very good selling point for their top device?
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Yes, I have seen the lags in my 3 weeks old DHD. It is very annoying and I don't understand why HTC doesn't address the issues and only focus on new product development.
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dr.m0x said:
Untrue. I don't have lag except in the first min our so after the phone boots.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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same here, i`m using stock rom 1.72 flashed via RUU, OP maybe try to back`up your rom and flash a custom rom like revo or leedroid and see how it is...
ok try watchtower
and see how much RAM is used.
try to use another ROM, not sure if your service provider accept it.
i am sure it is a software added by your provider, or some settings needed.
i would go to:
- format the SD card - don't forget to back it up
- full reset my phone
still same problem ..... find a clean ROM and flash it.
jmohik said:
ok try watchtower
and see how much RAM is used.
try to use another ROM, not sure if your service provider accept it.
i am sure it is a software added by your provider, or some settings needed.
i would go to:
- format the SD card - don't forget to back it up
- full reset my phone
still same problem ..... find a clean ROM and flash it.
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That is what I thought too! I think its your provider. Especially when getting new phone from the same provider and the laggs are still there. I would suggest to try another Rom. Clean from such ****ty provider Stuff.
Sent with my DesireHD using my Brain
Jord-22 said:
Hi all,
I got my Desire HD about 4 weeks ago, and used it quite a lot, with barely any apps installed. (I never use app killers by the way) Over time i realised it was actually acting quite slow for a phone with it's spec, so i asked Vodafone and they sent me another one.
My new one, that i've had for 2 weeks now is still slow for what i would expect from a phone like this, and i'm not just being fussy either.
My friend has an X10 mini, and was showing me the other day, and i was shocked at how much more responsive and faster it is than my Desire HD, so i looked up lag issues and found xda developers.
I tried enabling USB debugging, checked for the latest update, rebooted etc.. it feels like i'm only getting, what... 25 frames per second at best? usually looks about 20 (in menus) when compared to my friends X10 mini, his looks as if it's easily scrolling up and down the drop down or popup menu with all of your apps in it, at 60 frames, (something above 30 anyway with NO lag whatsoever) and i have yet to flick my menu without seeing some degree of jitter while scrolling. I downloaded the Quadrant Benchmark and found I got 2002 Points, which when looked at in the graph.. there is no way the x10 mini could even scratch the DHD's score... so...
WHY does my phone feel sluggish? Is this normal or should I be concerned?
Thanks
-J
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I have 1 month old DHD, no lag so far on ordinary use.
But i notice 1 think that make it lag.
When i browse internet, HSDPA & 3g signal no problem, but when Edge signal, than lag start to happen, some time its hang few second!! & my DHD start heating warm under battery..
Even tho i click usb debug, stil lag.
Only way to make sure its not lag is to use only HSDPA & 3g signal while browse..
I use stock rom, no root.
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I (still) love my Desire, unfortunately after two weeks of usage or so the screen starts annoying me! Any live wallpaper is unusable due choppy home screen scrolling and some menus like "All Apps" or "Customize" become very slow at the bottom. At first I thought it was problem of custom ROM, but this is happening even on stock ROM, so it's probably a HW problem (GPU maybe?).
Can someone help me?
Thanks.
HW problem? Don't think so. However, can be, but it's not likely.
I suggest to try a different kernel and if that not helps do a full wipe & reflash.
I see, that we use the same radio & kernel (except that I'm on LeeDroid) - but i never experienced that slowdowns.
Nah, coutts, CM, HTC, ziggy... All the same.
Try changing your governor
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Maybe a ram thing .... i use (i know not all think this is good but) a taskmanager with a auto close apps widget
with kind regards...Alex
Still the same and I have plenty of free RAM.
If your device can still play 3d intensive games without slow downs or errors then I doubt it's a hardware problem. So...Does it play games properly?
Recommend such game that is OK on your Desire, so we can compare.
Try nenamark (1.5 free in the market). I get 20.9 FPS with the stuff in my signature. So if you get more than 15 then I think it won't be a hardware problem.
Also I noticed the lag when something is installing. So can be the a2sd+ slowing down your phone.
It can't be due A2SD (read OP).
Btw, I got 18,6 FPS.
Hmm, then the gpu/cpu seems to be fine. Must be a software error.
But what SW? Every ROM and every kernel behave in the same way.
That's what I try to figure out. So if you do a full wipe & changing ROM - Lag remains.
Changing kernel - lag remains.
Seriously, I have no idea. Usually a full wipe & reflash helps (ROM+kernel).
Can't it be the radio?
Can't be, this problem started in virgin stock ROM (I have copyright on that ).
Have you tried aosp roms its probaly a HTC sense issue
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AOSP ROMs have the same issue.
maybe your NAND got corrupted in some way?
maybe after you install new ROM try not to restore your previous apps or system setting with neither titanium backup or mybackup, whichever you use.
however,i would assume you tried that already.
also you could try going back to stock ROM and or even HD rom which fits on NAND and try booting without SD card which maybe trying to read something and it cant.
so was your phone branded?
and when did you noticed this performance issue?
Unbraded. And I noticed it during using stock ROM.
Don't know if its just imagination but i think my desire has also gotten more laggy lately.
My phone has definitely slowed down LWPs are pretty much unusable & Sense always slows right down at the bottom of some menus, including the app drawer.
It's a good time to be a desire owner these days.
The roms just keeps popping out day after another.
Question is, which one is the fastest, most stable, best one?
I think a poll is in place.
Please only vote if you've actually tried them all.
ROM Links:
InsertCoin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
RCMix S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570
Ace/Vision S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018843
Also, if you found one not listed here, please elaborate.
And I think replying to this thread with your personal reviews of your favorite one with pro's and con's against the others would be appreciated too.
Happy flashing!
Tried 2 of them robo and Baadnewz v similar but TBH no video camera,no trackball wake then none of them is the ****
InsertCoin v1 was running very sweet for me but for some reason updated versions caused problems,probably my fault couldn't be bothered with a full wipe currently using RCMix Sv08 very happy with that apart from the 2 points mentioned above and the lack of a menu function to swap from 2G to 3G easily signal,GPS,battery life all great compass i think borked but i never use it
I selected the rcmix S, because for now it's the only one I tested, and what I can say is that it is really fast for normal use. Compared to version rcmixHD
For other ROMs, they seem to be all good as each other. The developers follow the well updated and are listening to users. The user feedback at speed and bug are equivalent for all roms.
You guys did a great job! Thank you for all your work for our small desires.
ziggy1001 said:
Tried 2 of them robo and Baadnewz v similar but TBH no video camera,no trackball wake then none of them is the ****
InsertCoin v1 was running very sweet for me but for some reason updated versions caused problems,probably my fault couldn't be bothered with a full wipe currently using RCMix Sv08 very happy with that apart from the 2 points mentioned above and the lack of a menu function to swap from 2G to 3G easily signal,GPS,battery life all great compass i think borked but i never use it
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Camera is fixed in both, lag is fixed in insertcoint.
There are solutions for both roms to get the extra settings working in quick menu. (use search in thread)
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
-video rec. still down
-compas still down
anyhow, my 2 cents.. their both great! I picked insertcoin, not alot of difference between the 2 roms.. but in time that will change imo..
but for now, both very viable! havent tried ace & vision roms yet
In general I agree on:
skippy68220 said:
You guys did a great job! Thank you for all your work for our small desires.
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Srkineo said:
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
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Interesting i have home& menu wake working but not reliably, but didn't see any options for trackball, looks like i'll have to spend even more time searching XDA
Srkineo said:
Camera is fixed in both, lag is fixed in insertcoint.
There are solutions for both roms to get the extra settings working in quick menu. (use search in thread)
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
-video rec. still down
-compas still down
anyhow, my 2 cents.. their both great! I picked insertcoin, not alot of difference between the 2 roms.. but in time that will change imo..
but for now, both very viable! havent tried ace & vision roms yet
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Yes, as you noticed there are almost no differences in our roms, what i can see when i diff the roms is that only thing changed is the ril and some apps removed from insertcoin... so i dont know what is causing lag in my rom :/ strange... should be the same... It can be the plurk which he removed and i still have in my rom (possible memory leak in that app), i will check that when i come back from my vacation, now i am working on A2SD version of v08.
have a nice day everyone
robocik said:
Yes, as you noticed there are almost no differences in our roms, what i can see when i diff the roms is that only thing changed is the ril and some apps removed from insertcoin... so i dont know what is causing lag in my rom :/ strange... should be the same... It can be the plurk which he removed and i still have in my rom (possible memory leak in that app), i will check that when i come back from my vacation, now i am working on A2SD version of v08.
have a nice day everyone
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well i don't know where the lag appears, i changed the rils, modded init.rc, changed all wpa related files with the ones from gb leak in an effort to fix some wifi problems, i removed some files, fonts, and moved lib_s to /system/lib.
Problem with my roms later than v01 is flash player 10.2, problem that is also on my froyo roms. and i have no clue how to fix it, thou in robo's roms the problem doesnt exists, plurk i removed from v04 so users should tell if that did the trick or not.
And as mentioned before, robocik did the hard - porting - hacking part. without this we wouldn't have a sense 2.1 rom.
btw, anyone have a clue why compass is acting strange? not that i ever use it, but some users need it
Hmmm its too difficult to compare 3 roms...coz me n baadnewz using same base even features is 100% same...only difference between tweaking n optimization...
But my vote for RCmixS coz robo is the first person who port sense 2.1 Rom...
Sent From Nokia 3310...!!!
If you look at the SuperDuperAwesomeROM v0.3 by eddyOS isn't that 2.33 Gb with an earlier version of Sense but made for the Desire, not a port and people say compass doesn't work, so maybe HTC cockup?
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well i don't know where the lag appears, i changed the rils, modded init.rc, changed all wpa related files with the ones from gb leak in an effort to fix some wifi problems, i removed some files, fonts, and moved lib_s to /system/lib.
Problem with my roms later than v01 is flash player 10.2, problem that is also on my froyo roms. and i have no clue how to fix it, thou in robo's roms the problem doesnt exists, plurk i removed from v04 so users should tell if that did the trick or not.
And as mentioned before, robocik did the hard - porting - hacking part. without this we wouldn't have a sense 2.1 rom.
btw, anyone have a clue why compass is acting strange? not that i ever use it, but some users need it
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try to take my flash player and libs... uploading my A2SD rom, i have changed some flash stuff, we'll see if it helps for the users... have not tried it myself yet.
my users are reporting some calling issues, is that caused by the ril? i am using the one from the leaked rom... i think anyway hehe dont remember anymore.
need to run now. A2SD+ is on the way up.
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If you look at the SuperDuperAwesomeROM v0.3 by eddyOS isn't that 2.33 Gb with an earlier version of Sense but made for the Desire, not a port and people say compass doesn't work, so maybe HTC cockup?
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if the compass problem is in the bravo leak then yes is a problem from HTC. But again the leak is a TEST Build so problems are expected.
robocik said:
try to take my flash player and libs... uploading my A2SD rom, i have changed some flash stuff, we'll see if it helps for the users... have not tried it myself yet.
my users are reporting some calling issues, is that caused by the ril? i am using the one from the leaked rom... i think anyway hehe dont remember anymore.
need to run now. A2SD+ is on the way up.
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i took them in v04 /lib/plugins but still nogo, will keep investigating but same as you I'm on vacation with my family. After Easter I'll have more time
I think its leedroid 2.3.3
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I think its leedroid 2.3.3
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read the thread question before posting ****! btw currently running insertcoin S v04, no problems at all, removed plurk and stocks, also thinking about removing peep but I don't know how will this affect the UI(friendswidget for example). Peep is also using a lot of memory.
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read the thread question before posting ****! btw currently running insertcoin S v04, no problems at all, removed plurk and stocks, also thinking about removing peep but I don't know how will this affect the UI(friendswidget for example). Peep is also using a lot of memory.
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if u remove peep, friend stream will stll work but it will show only facebook updates
would like to vote for
RC-MIX
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InsertCoin as both of them feel very good in allday work situation
gave my vote to I-Coin cause i used it longer but now im on RCmix V8 and think i will stay there (top)
thx to Robo for making new STUFF available for our/my Desire
i couldnt find any way to get trackballwake on gb sense roms,i searched a lot.
Would someone plz be so nice to show where to get a flashable zip for it.
Why don't you three musketeers join forces to focus on just one bad ass rom?
I experienced slowdowns when I flashed the vorkmod of rcmix s 0.7, no slowdowns anymore after going back to the original rcmix s. I suspect it's some of these extra modules added (undervolt or a different governor)
btw my compass works quite well
Is anyone having problems with autobrightness (ie brightness suddenly going up and down again?)
oh my vote goes to robocik for now
On insertcoin, the WiFi randomly disconnects when the signal is low. Does this happen on other ROMs?
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On insertcoin, the WiFi randomly disconnects when the signal is low. Does this happen on other ROMs?
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the wi-fi problem on insertcoin seems to be fixed now. check you wi-fi sleep policy. but i seem to have a little problem. from the day i got my desire i used switchpro widget. i use it now also but now i can't make the flashlight work(the flash doesn't turn on). does anyone know a fix for this problem?
hi all
I finally decided to give some new life to my HTC Desire, rooted it, S-OFFed it as well and after long search for most suitable ROM for me, flashed Cool Droid v3 Bravo on it.
ROM looks great and works fine, but it has only one big issue (so far) - I cannot turn on data roaming, it is turned off by default and tweaked to stay that way. As a noob, obviously I cannot post this question in specific thread about that ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016 so I have to ask here:
is there any fix for it, an advice or procedure how to change the script (I figured out that it's just a line in build.prop file but it doesn't allows me to change it). I'm not scared to tinker with it as long as it's not too complicated and makes sense.
I need it because I live in Europe, travel a lot and I use national roaming very often.
Please if anyone can help me, because this issue is a dealbreaker for me with this ROM and I'd hate that.
Thanks in advance
PS: the screenshot shows how the setting stays no matter what option I choose
Install a rom that hasnt got a lot of Verizon stuff in it.
I would, if I can find fast, stable and reliable ROM, based on GB and preferably with Sense on it.
I'm not into flashing new ROM every few days and trying out every custom ROM out there, I just need my phone to work well within its capabilities as I travel a lot and use it for work.
I guess that this data roaming issue shouldn't be too complicated to solve, it's a piece of cake for every developer...
NoobVulgaris said:
I would, if I can find fast, stable and reliable ROM, based on GB and preferably with Sense on it.
I'm not into flashing new ROM every few days and trying out every custom ROM out there, I just need my phone to work well within its capabilities as I travel a lot and use it for work.
I guess that this data roaming issue shouldn't be too complicated to solve, it's a piece of cake for every developer...
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Runnymede AIO v6.0.4.3 stable is probably as close as u will come.
hmm.. I'll check it out, thanks
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Runnymede AIO v6.0.4.3 stable is probably as close as u will come.
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well, I flashed this rom and been testing it last few days. It has pretty much all that I need but I find it quite heavy on my device. Too many times it slows down, lags and freezes, especially when running games and apps that need syncing. Also, quite a lot FCs. Battery drain is also significant.
I'm not sure where exactly the problem is, it just gets stuck with black screen and only notification bar is visible.
Any advice where to look at? Might it be kernel, radio or CPU issue?
thanks
A tip for ya when flashing that rom. When u first install it from recovery and reboot, when it boots past bootanimation and gets to the lockring.... Leave it settle for 15-20 mins, dont unlock. Then after 15-20 mins unlock then reboot. Then no force close, sounds mad but its true. U could try a different kernal, Droidzone has a few good 1s for sense 3.5 roms and also in settings/RCMix tweaks, u can fix permissions there, try that, it sometimes fixes force close. Im using Aurora v6 special edition, its android 2.3.5 and sense 3 and not 1 problem so far, great rom infact. Saying that, Runnymede aio s.e is my personal favourite sense 3.5 and never had any problems with it, but letting it settle for 15-20 mins is a must.
About the radio.... What do u have? Lastest is recommended.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire
Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
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A tip for ya when flashing that rom. When u first install it from recovery and reboot, when it boots past bootanimation and gets to the lockring.... Leave it settle for 15-20 mins, dont unlock. Then after 15-20 mins unlock then reboot. Then no force close, sounds mad but its true. U could try a different kernal, Droidzone has a few good 1s for sense 3.5 roms and also in settings/RCMix tweaks, u can fix permissions there, try that, it sometimes fixes force close. Im using Aurora v6 special edition, its android 2.3.5 and sense 3 and not 1 problem so far, great rom infact. Saying that, Runnymede aio s.e is my personal favourite sense 3.5 and never had any problems with it, but letting it settle for 15-20 mins is a must.
About the radio.... What do u have? Lastest is recommended.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire
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I followed that flashing procedure pretty much, I was gentle and easy going right after flashing it, not rushing anything, left it to settle (maybe not 20 mins) and rebooted it again. Actually, FCs are not such a big issue like freezing. Usually 1fc comes on 5 freezes. My radio is 5.11.05.27, I haven't touched it since rooting the phone with Revolutionary. I kinda hesitate to flash it, I don't want to brick my device because I'm not sure about the right procedure.
As my name says, I'm just an ordinary noob, not too experienced with all this.
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Did u do a full wipe before flashing.
Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
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Did u do a full wipe before flashing.
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I did a full wipe, formatting and partitioning SD card from the scratch (fat32 partition included), 4ext is 1GB... I did all following developer's recommended procedure step by step. SD card is brand new SanDisk 8 GB, class 6.
It works well after reboot, but after a while, as soon as several apps are opened, it lags and hangs heavily, making the phone unusable.
I'm not sure does it matter, but I moved all movable apps to "phone storage", except those that have widgets that I use. Yet, the phone still freezes even when using non-movable apps.
I'd flash it again right now but I get messed up contacts list every time because not all my contacts are on google and I have 1000+ in total, so after every restore I get many duplicates and triplicates, so I'd really like a solution that doesn't include another flashing.
Here is a better tip. Don't use sense 3+ if you want reliability. I recommend cool bravo s, but change the kernel.
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Here is a better tip. Don't use sense 3+ if you want reliability. I recommend cool bravo s, but change the kernel.
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Iv no problems at all, using sense 3.0 right now, 1 of the best roms iv ever used.
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Iv no problems at all, using sense 3.0 right now, 1 of the best roms iv ever used.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire
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So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
cronus101 said:
So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
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I'd like to stick with this rom.. I do have lags but not when receiving a call, that's why I suppose that I just have to do some detailed tweaking and that's where I need help as I'm not experienced with it. FCs are actually not so bad, pretty much the same as I had them on my stock froyo so I can live with that. Battery drain is there though, but I've been using the phone intensively since flashing RM AIO, trying to set it up.
Can maybe someone post here proper radio/kernel/CPU settings please?
My device is amoled version, with 5.11.05.27 radio and 2.6.35.10 [email protected] #11 kernel
CPU settings are untouched after flashing the rom, so they are "default".
thanks
cronus101 said:
So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
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Aurora v6 special edition. No lag, no fc, battery is great, obviously its not as good as AOSP. And yes i use my phone, im using it now writing this
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Aurora v6 special edition. No lag, no fc, battery is great, obviously its not as good as AOSP. And yes i use my phone, im using it now writing this
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How long have you been using it?
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How long have you been using it?
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Lol not long but plan on sticking with it. Im using a Droidzone kernal, OC set to min 245 and max 998 Smartassv2 and cpu set to the same with ondemand. Like i dont play games on my phone, i just use it for phone calls msgs and internet (usuall stuff) i charged it to 100% yesterday and iv now still 53% which is pretty good going.
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Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
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If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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