Related
Hi all,
Just wondering what you guys use to keep your contacts in Sync with multiple devices (PalmOS, WM6x, Android)
Personally now I use Google Apps Contacts, however Google Contacts lacks some features and it doesn't sync fully some extra fields.
Before I started using Google Contacts, I was using a mix of several applications like SwitchSyncEX and other alikes.
so i was wondering if there are some sort of apps for Android that can do cross platform contact sync-ing keeping all the fields, instead of chopping off whatever it doesn't understand (Google Contacts)
i would like to know this as well as I'm in the same boat (palm desktop, outlook/wm 6.5, and soon to be android)
I keep my master copy of contacts in Mac OS X address book which syncs with Google Contacts which I then use from remote devices (iPhone, Android, whatever)
I keep hearing about Plaxo, no idea if it's any good or available for Android.
I've used GooSync earlier. It did the job, but then you are still dependant on Google Contacts, which seems to be where you're missing some features.
igniztion said:
I've used GooSync earlier. It did the job, but then you are still dependant on Google Contacts, which seems to be where you're missing some features.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
exactly!
i like google contacts, is great, but it's missing features i got used to since PalmOS and WinMobile
i keep using both my old HTC Athena and SGS i9000, so Google Contact is the best one out there at the moment, unfortunately those extra fields from Outlook doesn't get sync-ed over.
and or if i create them in Google, there is no way to map it back to Outlook.... it's a bummer
Try mIQLive.com
Had all my HD2 Contacts, etc., synced with Exchange Server. Go to above Site, Download & Install the App on your current Device.
You can then upload all Contacts; Calendar; Texts; Call Logs; Bookmarks; Photos & Videos onto their "Cloud" server
Then on the new or 2nd phone, Download & Install the App. Sign in using the same Credentials. The mIQ Cloud Server will then Sync all of the above items with your new Device
I've used this recently to Sync up both Windows and Android Phones. Runs in a very similar manner to Dropbox, if you're familar with that for File Sync across mutliple PC's
Two other nice little bonuses IMHO
a) As the mIQ app runs in the background on your Phone, it maintains a "Push" type connection with your phone (not too dissimilar to a connection to Exchange Server) This will then automatically Sync New Texts; Photos; Contacts and Call Logs onto the Cloud Server for access thru a PC
b) This same connection allows you to send & receive Texts on your PC Browser, with the phone remaining in your pocket the whole time. Very handy at times
I should emphasize that BOTH my HD2 and Galaxy have their "Master Sync" with Exchange and I haven't noticed any abbreviations on the Outlook Contact Fields to date. And I use Outlook Contacts extensively for adding extra Contact Info etc. Your mileage may vary though!!!!
Oh and by the way, this is Free. So, hard to beat the price!!!
but google does that already for free, why i'd switch to a paid service when it does the same thing?
1) First of all, the mIQ Service is FREE, so no harm to try it
2) Secondly, mIQ is a “Live, Constantly On” service, so any Contact Changes; Texts; Call Timer Logs; New Photos etc. Are automatically backed up to the cloud. Handy in the event of disaster. Gmail Backup is far more intermittent
3) Thirdly, Google does NOT offer Auto Backup of the following items (which mIQ does)
a) Call Timer Logs (handy for business logs, if that’s important to you)
b) Photos, Files & Videos Backup
c) Browser Bookmarks (as far as I know)
4) Fourthly, Google Sync does NOT allow the feature I described above, of being able to Send and Receive Texts from your Desktop, while your phone remains in your pocket
If you run two phones (as I do) it can be very handy to move from one phone to the other and know that a new Bookmark you may have added on one phone; or a Text you may have received is Automatically on the OTHER phone by the time you pick it up. All happens within 10 seconds or so
now that sounds much more interesting, i'll give that a go
You can also try syncfriend Also free
sync
I use funambol sync, 90 days free on WInmo and free on android.
So I made a sync on my winmo to the funambol server and then when I got the SGS I installed Funambal and synced the contacts back to my SGS.
For me it worked fine!
AllGamer said:
Hi all,
Just wondering what you guys use to keep your contacts in Sync with multiple devices (PalmOS, WM6x, Android)
Personally now I use Google Apps Contacts, however Google Contacts lacks some features and it doesn't sync fully some extra fields.
Before I started using Google Contacts, I was using a mix of several applications like SwitchSyncEX and other alikes.
so i was wondering if there are some sort of apps for Android that can do cross platform contact sync-ing keeping all the fields, instead of chopping off whatever it doesn't understand (Google Contacts)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As far as WinMo 6x and android devices are concerned, no need to buy any third party app. This is what i do. The only pre condition is that your primary server should be gmail(google) not hotmail. Then all you got to do is add gmail server as exchange server in WinMo device. Thereafter both WinMo & android will always be in sync simultaneously.
As you know, we have two different email program in stock rom. "Mail" and "Gmail".
You have to be a google account for to use market and other stuffs. If you add a gmail account to your device your mails checking by "Gmail". You cannot add any POP3 account to Gmail. You should use for stock "Mail" Program for this.
It's look like to for every account we need a different mail program. It's boring and stupid idea. Yes we can add gmail acc. to stock Mail program but this solution is not good, either. Because we are using same account with different programs.
There is a mail program called K-9, we can install this and transfer all account the this program but basic problem is continuing: We must continue to use for "Gmail". We cannot remove gmail acc from this program and to use mail we need 3 different programs
I find this really unlogic.
P.S. I'm sorry for my poor English.
Don't see the issue myself, Gmail is just that, an app for gmail, if you don't want to use gmail then don't sync gmail. I use Gmail, and Mail for a hotmail and an Exchange account. You can use Mail for gmail but you won't have the full functionality of gmail.
i use k-9 since it supports push for imap
not using gmail at all. neither for desire nor at all.
YaPaY said:
As you know, we have two different email program in stock rom. "Mail" and "Gmail".
You have to be a google account for to use market and other stuffs. If you add a gmail account to your device your mails checking by "Gmail". You cannot add any POP3 account to Gmail. You should use for stock "Mail" Program for this.
It's look like to for every account we need a different mail program. It's boring and stupid idea. Yes we can add gmail acc. to stock Mail program but this solution is not good, either. Because we are using same account with different programs.
There is a mail program called K-9, we can install this and transfer all account the this program but basic problem is continuing: We must continue to use for "Gmail". We cannot remove gmail acc from this program and to use mail we need 3 different programs
I find this really unlogic.
P.S. I'm sorry for my poor English.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello Yappay,
You seem a little confused. There are two main ways to access E-Mail on Android:
1. A dedicated app for a certain E-mail provider. The Gmail app on your phone is such a dedicated app, and offers decent background syncing because it's tightly integrated with the system and is configured to poll and receive push notifications for new mail in a way that's very efficient. The problem here is that these dedicated apps can only connect to their respective e-mail services: The Gmail app can only connect to Gmail, the Yahoo!Mail app can only connect to Yahoo, and so on.
2. A generic E-mail app that can connect to various E-mail providers through interfaces like IMAP or POP. The app "E-Mail" on your phone is one of these, as is K9-Mail or Maildroid. It's possible to add multiple accounts to these, including Gmail accounts, because Gmail supports both POP and IMAP.
If you really want to use only one app for all your E-mail, you can add all of your accounts to one of the programs from the second category. I'd recommend IMAP for the connection, because it keeps the server up-to-date with any changes you make to e-mails in the program (moving them to different folders, deleting e-mails etc.).
I've tried searching the forums for this but with no luck. I'm new to Android and one thing is irritating me about the email application on my new Desire HD.
When I view an email the phone automatically downloads any images that are required, even if they're hosted and not embedded. This means that if I accidentally open a spam email, the phone displays it in full HTML format with the images included. I want to block those images completely (for all emails).
Is that possible with the built-in mail application? I can't find a setting that controls this, and yet it seems like such a fundamental principle on a mobile phone that the user should have control over which images are downloaded. Windows Mobile - for all its faults - did this perfectly.
I don't want to download another mail client yet - the built-in one works fine for me apart from this (and the fact that deleting emails on the phone doesn't delete them on the server - but that's for another thread).
Can I get a bump here? Please?
I'm not sure which email prog you are using.
But if you use Gmail rather than DHD phones email app, you can have all your email accounts go through the one Gmail account, which filters spam mail, and has settings for what type and size of mail you receive.
Plus all your phones emails are backed up on your google/android account.
I'm with SiliconS on this...
All mail clients (malex1 gmail is not a mail client it is a mail service)... all mail clients except androids give you the option of whether or not to download images embedded in the email.
This has a number of benefits, not least of which it prevents spammers from identifying which email addresses they spam to are actually active.
I do not want to use gmail, that is not a viable option.. I just want a good email client.
Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
ok I know when to shut up
androidtapp.com/4-best-android-apps-for-email-android-app-recommendations-from-the-experts-at-androidtapp-com/
I've added a Google account to my WP7 (Using the Google, not Exchange/Outlook method). Emails sync to it fine but when I delete them from the phone: they aren't getting deleted in Gmail itself. I've waited maybe 30 minutes... Is this normal and I have to use Exchange/Outlook or what?
Edit- Ahh never mind. Apparently the "Delete" function does not trigger a sync... I manually sync it and they go away.
Yah it won't sync and delete off server right away. I'm pretty sure its based off the account sync setting. If you have it receive mail every 30mins, maybe thats when it will sync the deleted items as well. I just tested it, and it took about 1 minute for it to delete off server (mine is set to receive mail as it comes in). That way it doesn't sync every time you delete one email, then again when you delete another, it waits a certain amount of time then sync's the changes.
With my Yahoo, which can only be set for every 15mins as the fastest, I think thats when it does it.
That's exactly how mine's set, too, but since I didn't have any emails come in after I deleted it- it never sync'd.
GMail on Android didn't act like this- it'd go ahead and process item moves, deletes, etc... right away.
Yah I remember that on my Android as well. It was nice, but not really necessary to be instantaneous. Maybe they will implement that in the future?
You said yours wouldn't even sync the deleted items at the chosen sync interval because there was no new mail? Mine deletes from the server, new mail or not.
No, I meant mine is set to push. No new mail = no sync trigger.
If I set it on an interval it would but then it's not push.
For me i always have to tap the sync icon before quitting the mail ...
.... and so far its going good.
edit....running some tests
Deleting email messages from your phone does not delete them from Gmail (it does not move them to the Trash folder/label), even after syncing. If you log in to your Gmail account online, you will still find all of the "deleted" messages in All Mail.
This is due in part to the way the WP7 client works, but also because of the way Gmail implements folders as labels. Basically, all the WP7 client does is tell Gmail to remove the Inbox label from the message. In Gmail, that is not the same as deleting it. The Trash label is special in Gmail, and applying that label causes all other labels (including the All Mail label) to be removed, and the message gets flagged for permanent removal after 30 days.
If you delete messages on your phone, you will need to periodically log into your Gmail account through a browser to purge the old mail from All Mail, or it will continue to sit there. It's actually pretty easy to tell which messages in All Mail have been deleted by phone, because there will be no Inbox label indicator on them.
Well it's working at me..
You have to config imap at your wp7. That is the only way to sync correctly
RoboDad said:
Deleting email messages from your phone does not delete them from Gmail (it does not move them to the Trash folder/label), even after syncing. If you log in to your Gmail account online, you will still find all of the "deleted" messages in All Mail.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not complaining about the Delete vs Archive thing. I actually like the way that works.
I'm complaining that when I Archive, Delete, Move, whatever... On Gmail on Android... The function gets synced. It doesn't want until a new sync, like on WP7.
OK, that makes sense. When I first set up my Google account on my phone, I used the as items arrive sync setting, and deletes were synced immediately. I'm not sure why it didn't work for you. But that was a while ago, so maybe something has changed.
TexUs said:
No, I meant mine is set to push. No new mail = no sync trigger.
If I set it on an interval it would but then it's not push.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only PUSH for GMail is using Google Sync, which is ActiveSync, which means you have to set it up like an Exchange Server. Using IMAP is not PUSH, and POP3 certainly isn't.
RoboDad said:
Deleting email messages from your phone does not delete them from Gmail (it does not move them to the Trash folder/label), even after syncing. If you log in to your Gmail account online, you will still find all of the "deleted" messages in All Mail.
This is due in part to the way the WP7 client works, but also because of the way Gmail implements folders as labels. Basically, all the WP7 client does is tell Gmail to remove the Inbox label from the message. In Gmail, that is not the same as deleting it. The Trash label is special in Gmail, and applying that label causes all other labels (including the All Mail label) to be removed, and the message gets flagged for permanent removal after 30 days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has nothing to do with how WP7's client works. It works like any other IMAP client. Yahoo! tried the "WP7 Client" excuse and lost that battle. It's 100% due to Google's folder implementation. Most IMAP clients have to be coded specifically to work with Google's servers, because they use basically a proprietary label/folder structure due to their Label system (which is designed first and foremost for browser use, not client use).
GMail is a nightmare to work with in an IMAP client (many people agree, those who are used to it won't really care to agree or disagree).
If you delete messages on your phone, you will need to periodically log into your Gmail account through a browser to purge the old mail from All Mail, or it will continue to sit there. It's actually pretty easy to tell which messages in All Mail have been deleted by phone, because there will be no Inbox label indicator on them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's cause All Mail is your real inbox, and Google does nothing but adds flags to mails. These flags correspond to labels and the only thing you see in the other folder are really copies of the other mail. When working with GMail through a web client it doesn't copy anything, it just sort of links everything, so if you delete a mail it simply removes the labels and moves the real item from All Mail to Trash.
Since standard IMAP clients do not support labels, they have to create a folder for each label and download a copy of that message in each of those folders. Furthermore, since they don't support the labels (again), when you delete an email from Work the IMAP client is dumb and has no clue that Work is only a Label and that same mail is also flagged for "Marketing" and "Travel", as well as "All Mail."
So, you end up with the Work copy going to your IMAP client Trash (not the Gmail Trash), and a copy still sitting in "All Mail", "Marketing", and "Travel."
When you perform a sync/reconcile the GMail servers may see the "Work" email is gone, but it doesn't mean delete this mail to the Gmail Servers. It means "Remove this Label from this email." And going by that statement, I can confirm that your information is wrong about knowing which mail was deleted. For people with Filters on their Gmail Account and nested Labels (Social Networks/Facebook etc.) it will only remove the Label that corresponds to the folder you deleted the email from in MOST IMAP clients (some code to work with Google's service in a specific manner). Most IMAP clients (even Microsoft Outlook, and IIRC Mozilla Thunderbird as well) had to push out major updates to their apps to cope with GMail's IMAP implementation (or rather, the Folder to IMAP coupling of GMail).
They have to map the IMAP Trash Folder to Gmail's Trash folder and make sure the emails are properly linked so that when one is deleted, everything goes to trash which stops the user's All Mail folder from growing to a ridiculous size (and is terrible for Junk Mail that gets through the Junk Filter and may be labeled). Should not have to jump into two clients just to delete an email
That is why you have to do twice the work.
Gmail is terrible for IMAP because it forces most IMAP clients (unless specifically coded to handle Google's service) to download a ton of redundant data and the folder structures are terrible.
It has nothing to do with WP7's client...
POP3 with GMail in Outlook, etc. with a fast (i.e. 5-10min) Poll Time is great (their servers are stable and fast). IMAP? Terrible...
Use AIM with IMAP and that's the way most services work. When you delete the mail, it actually deletes, and the folder structures are uniform and pretty much standard.
Google does this because they datamine emails (they don't personally read them, but they data mine them for targetted advertising, etc.). It's also why they had to make a specific GMail app for Android, even though Google Mail supports POP3, IMAP4, and ActiveSync (with HTML Mail support).
So, to end this long boring post... That's why I find it better to use POP3 or ActiveSync for GMail. IMAP with Gmail forces your phone to download a lot of redundant data which ups the battery life implications of GMail IMAP compared to i.e. AOL/AIM Mail IMAP (Yahoo! is terrible, and I haven't used it in ages so I cannot attest to how well theirs is implimented even without the data leak issue).
I know how Google handles it. I like how they do it. It fits in with their philosophy of, "Archive, don't Delete"... So for me, if using another client- clients don't have an "Archive" button, just a "Delete" button.
If I'm using Gmail in another client, I want my emails Archived, not Deleted (current behavior). I'd be pissed if Delete actually moved them to Trash.
So my gripe is not Google in that regard at all. I both like and understand why they do it.
N8ter said:
The only PUSH for GMail is using Google Sync, which is ActiveSync, which means you have to set it up like an Exchange Server. Using IMAP is not PUSH, and POP3 certainly isn't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The downside to that is you lose your calendar, right?
I think I could manage that. I don't need Calendar SYNC (I never refer to it on a desktop or anything)- I just need it backed up. So I can add my Calendar via my Live account.
I might do this method. It begs the question though, what method does the "Google Account" use in the background?? Something like IMAP?
Edit- well shoot... The Active Sync Google connection syncs the calendar, too. What the hell is the "Google Account" advantage, then?
I all,
I search to set up my inbox for delete really delete my mails, no archive.
My account was set up as a "GMAIL account", I have tried with activesync account too since I have read this thread but ... it's the same problem
No "Archive" menu, juste "delete", and no way to really delete ?
Is somebody have a solution?
Thanks.
See my post over on Microsoft Answers for a solution/workaround. Duplicated below as I am unable to post links due to being a new member!
The problem is with Gmail not MS, although MS could probably implement a 'fix' to workaround the problem that is Google's making, as some have suggested Apple may have done, but I have no experience of this as I do not use Apple products full stop.
Anyhow, there is a way to get this to work simply and reliably, although it does not work via Exchange ActiceSync, or at least I have not figured out a way of doing this yet.
If Gmail is set up via the WP7 inbuilt Exchange ActiceSync, uncheck email synchronisation under account settings, but leave Contact and Calendar checked if you use these. You will lose the Gmail Inbox.
Now, create a new account and enter the IMAP settings for Google and set your synchronisation interval as required. Your Gmail Inbox will reappear.
However, you're not done yet. You now, need to go into the Web interface for Gmail, go to Settings/Labels and untick Show in IMAP next to All Mail.
Now, goto Forwarding and POP/IMAP. Ensure IMAP is enabled, select Auto- Expunge off and then Move the message to the Bin, below it.
Now when you delete a message on WP7 they will appear under the Deleted Items label, but can easily be cleaned up to the Bin periodically via the web interface. Playing around with these settings will hopefully get you the behaviour you require. This particular way works well for me, as I it still gives me a recovery option if I accidentally delete something on my phone. The downside is that you essentially get two Recyle Bins in the web interface.
If someone works out how to do this via Exchange ActiveSync, or manages to refine this further, please let me know.
It's not perfect, but it does work. I hope this helps someone...
Guys
I am using an Android phone. I have the stock email program and I have also K9 and Enhanced Email all running at the same time.
I have an Gmail account but don't use it for email or for nothing really dont trust the cloud/google.
My problem is all the email apps work great BUT when I open outlook then they all get removed form my phone. So basically the only emails I am left with are the send ones(in my phone). This happens with my POP and exchange accounts.
My question:
1) is there a Mail App that will make a copy of the email in my phone so when I open outlook they wont get sync and disappear?
2) If number 1 is no then is there a easy way to full your phone to keep the emails.
Thank you
Tungsten c said:
Guys
I am using an Android phone. I have the stock email program and I have also K9 and Enhanced Email all running at the same time.
I have an Gmail account but don't use it for email or for nothing really dont trust the cloud/google.
My problem is all the email apps work great BUT when I open outlook then they all get removed form my phone. So basically the only emails I am left with are the send ones(in my phone). This happens with my POP and exchange accounts.
My question:
1) is there a Mail App that will make a copy of the email in my phone so when I open outlook they wont get sync and disappear?
2) If number 1 is no then is there a easy way to full your phone to keep the emails.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A properly configured Exchange server usually doesn't allow the local device to retain the message data, it's all accessed real-time from the server. Its possible you have what I call a Half-Ass Exchange, which means you have a central address directory, but the IT department set up Outlook and Exchange to store messages locally on the PC rather than on the server. This would lead to what you are experiencing... Outlook takes all the messages off the server, leaving your phone with nothing to see when it connects. There's not a whole lot you can do about that unless your IT guys will move your email data to the Exchange server. Or maybe they have an IMAP access option. (See below)
With pop3 accounts... You have a similar problem, except there is no way to for two different devices to access the same data. The closest you can get would be to configure both devices to leave messages on the server after downloading them. Any emailed replies then can only be accessed from the device from which you sent them.
If you have the option, switch your pop3 accounts to IMAP. All user data is kept on a server (just like GMail), and any device that is connected to that account automatically syncs with the server, including access to deleted messages and sent messages sent from any other device.
All that being said... The stock email program kinda sucks. I would stick with the 3rd party apps like K9.
This is a new issue to me. I came from a PRE WEBOS and i did not have that problem. I believe the problem is in the way ANDROID OS handles emails. Basically all its changed is the device all else remained constant. I believe but not sure that if i was run all my mail thru gmail this will not be an issue. Its that true?
Thanks
Tungsten c said:
This is a new issue to me. I came from a PRE WEBOS and i did not have that problem. I believe the problem is in the way ANDROID OS handles emails. Basically all its changed is the device all else remained constant. I believe but not sure that if i was run all my mail thru gmail this will not be an issue. Its that true?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I access my pop3 mail just fine using K9 (again, I don't like the stock email program). Downloaded messages remain on my phone after they've been downloaded by my Thunderbird installation on my PC.
My current company doesn't have an Exchange server, so I can't speak to that with direct knowledge... My lat experience with Exchange was about two years ago, so its behavior could certainly have changed! My current company has 10 locations, and they are content to use a 3rd party pop3 solution for email. As an IT man, that annoys me, but then, I don't write the checks!
If you haven't changed any settings in your Outlook, then I would look closer to your settings in the email programs. K9 specifically has a setting that you need to check in order to download the messages to your phone (as opposed to just reading them off the server). I don't remember if it came checked by default...
Check to see if your phone email programs are set to actually download entire messages from the server, or just the message headers. In K9, there is a specific setting under account
Dalmus said:
I access my pop3 mail just fine using K9 (again, I don't like the stock email program). Downloaded messages remain on my phone after they've been downloaded by my Thunderbird installation on my PC.
My current company doesn't have an Exchange server, so I can't speak to that with direct knowledge... My lat experience with Exchange was about two years ago, so its behavior could certainly have changed! My current company has 10 locations, and they are content to use a 3rd party pop3 solution for email. As an IT man, that annoys me, but then, I don't write the checks!
If you haven't changed any settings in your Outlook, then I would look closer to your settings in the email programs. K9 specifically has a setting that you need to check in order to download the messages to your phone (as opposed to just reading them off the server). I don't remember if it came checked by default...
Check to see if your phone email programs are set to actually download entire messages from the server, or just the message headers. In K9, there is a specific setting under account
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't see that option on my Enhanced Email program nor in the stock email program and I can not use K-9 because y does not support outlook 2010 exchange yet.
thank you