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[Q] run ota while rooted

Any consequences other than losing root? I'm not too concerned about getting it right this second since I know these devs at xda will cook somethin nice up in a few days. Just want to know my options. THanks
EDIT: im running dc 3.2.3 (2.1)

It should just flash the new ROM. Yes, you'll lose root and it probably replaces the bootloader so you can't boot into recovery either, but it should be just another stock phone after that.

So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...

yourfriendwayned said:
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
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I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up

SantinoInc said:
I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
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hmmm yup I have the same root method - great I thought it would just write over...

Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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Im pretty bummed, also in the same boat.

jahnile said:
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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some of us dont care about loosing root, and as far as i knew i could at anytime upgrade to something sprint put out and all that would happen is i would loose root.

I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3

SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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It doesn't matter what you did to root it, you can un-root the same way

I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...

yourfriendwayned said:
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?

SantinoInc said:
Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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hmm is this a trick... do I have to trade my soul?

SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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This is my position aswell. Im sure i read pleanty of people saying unrevoked would have no effect on future updates, and the worst that would happen was loosing root.

eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...

cardiox said:
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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Can you please list your steps for unrooting? I want to add the ota and reroot later.
Thanks,
Ian B

I had the june update so i was 1.47 but either way this is the program to use...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This in my opinion is the way to go...make sure you use the 1.47 one and you are good to go...then get the OTA FROYO...I did it this way.

I had Unrevoked3 on mine for wifi tethering..and did the manual leaked update (update.zip on sd card etc) and it worked just peachy, if you wanted to go that route. I did lost my root but none of my data (even superusers is still installed lol)
From what I read there isnt much of a difference between the .3 and .6 versions anyway
Maybe if you did that, then waited to see what HTC comes up with for us "early adopters" to get us up to speed lol

Best way to root

Hey guys,
I just got my replacement phone yesterday and wanted to root, my old launch phone was rooted using toast method. I want to be fully rooted with nand unlock. Is the "how to root Android 2.2" on the development forum the best way to do this? If not what it? Thanks in advance guys.
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search for the Unrevoked, "One Click root"

I used the unrevoked method but as always follow it to a t. And make sure you get the s-on zip just in case you need to get another replacement
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I rooted my evo today using unrevoked. It was very simple and quick. Perfect for someone new to Android and rooting such as myself.
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I rooted my EVO today using the unrEVOked3 one click method....and I'm guessing it's rooted. I tried on "several" occasions to use the shootme app when not rooted and it did not work, however it does now.
On the flip side....I can not tether, as it says I do not have root accsess. Also holding down the volume button and power button, it goes into the white screen and when I hit fastboot it "I'm guessing" scans and comes back saying 'no image found' a bunch of times and returns to the main menu.
When I tried to hit the "recovery" button it went to a blackscreen and showed a picture of my phone with an exclamation point over it. No buttons did anything....pulled the battery and all was well again.
So I went back to the unrEVOked (as I am assuming I have no recovery image on my phone - and I tried to put on on the root of my card and see if fastboot would find it....it did the same scan "no image found" and I wasn't going to try to go into recovery again, lol)...so I went back to UnrEVOked and tried that all over again with the phone pluged it, it found my phone and said pushing recovery 'clockworkmod' and then all of a sudden - failed....terminating push.
I did that twice and I now have no idea how to get a recovery onto my phone.
Could it possibly be that I am rooted and not NAND? How can one tell if they are not NAND (I have no superuser icon)
If anyone has had this issue or is way more experience in this unrevoked one click root thing.....I would much appreciate the help

I recommend against unrevoked because it seems like more problems or steps are needed to get it running smoothly.
Use this guide paired with simple root.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...34-how-rooting-htc-evo-froyo-2-2-windows.html
Worked like a charm on my replacement evo.

Thanks man....you have answered a question that has been going around in my head for a little while now. There is no way to root 2.2 yet....one has to root from 2.1 and use rooted 2.2 ROMS.
Well it's good to know that there "IS" a way to revert to 2.1 should I want to root that badly....now that I know I have to go back to eclair, I'm not so sure I want to root.....I love 2.2 Froyo!!!
Thanks, I'll keep doing more research as to if it's worth it....and or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether

asbessette said:
Thanks man....you have answered a question that has been going around in my head for a little while now. There is no way to root 2.2 yet....one has to root from 2.1 and use rooted 2.2 ROMS.
Well it's good to know that there "IS" a way to revert to 2.1 should I want to root that badly....now that I know I have to go back to eclair, I'm not so sure I want to root.....I love 2.2 Froyo!!!
Thanks, I'll keep doing more research as to if it's worth it....and or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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Once you downgrade to 2.1 you can root with the 2.1 simpleroot. Then you can flash any rooted Froyo ROM you want. You do not stay at 2.1, unless you flash a 2.1 ROM.

i cannot speak for the unrevoked forever as i have not implemented it and do not plan to.
the unrevoked team has been known to put out a couple products that perhaps were not as fully tested as they should have been. but then again, this is a dev site...it's all use at ur own risk. that being said, unrevoked3 has been out for a while and seems to be ok. i have used it to root phones for friends.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install

or if someone has found a way to root 2.2 altogether
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There is a way to root 2.2, it's called Unrevoked. The latest version 3.21 works great. I used it to root 3 EVOs and had no problems at all. It takes 5 minutes.

So i rooted with Unrevoked3 the other day.. Note that im a noob with android. Ive only had my Evo for 2weeks. It was easier than i thought. Im running Myns warm two point two rom and ive customized launcher pro plus, its awesome. So my question is... am i fully rooted now? Cause i was told to download and install Unrevoked Forever after i used Unrevoked3???

tbgreen89 said:
So i rooted with Unrevoked3 the other day.. Note that im a noob with android. Ive only had my Evo for 2weeks. It was easier than i thought. Im running Myns warm two point two rom and ive customized launcher pro plus, its awesome. So my question is... am i fully rooted now? Cause i was told to download and install Unrevoked Forever after i used Unrevoked3???
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yes. you have full root + NAND is unlocked. as per unrevoked3
you do not need to run the UnrevokedForever. i have not and do not see myself running it. if more of the devs whom i have technical respect for start recommending it, then perhaps.
you only really need if 1) you a dev and are playing around with some new update for some reason or 2) ur impatient
for example...there is a new update hitting shelves. folks that are impatient will want to load up the latest and greatest...and will often loose root. rather than wait for Myn to release their updated ROM. personally, i would suggest just waiting for Myn to update.
until you have a better feel for how things work. stick with the 'name brand' Rooted ROMs. they will be updated pretty quick. you can see how many posts some of them have...might be a good indicator of activity.
enjoy you new device.
don't forget
- ALWAYS read the first post all the way thru
- to copy a nandroid over to your computer once in a while. (sux if you have a nandroid from yesterday..but your phone is lost or card melted)
- backup your launcherpro settings
- something like smsbackup+ may be helpful
- titantium backup. the paid version is very much worth it if you plan to play with your build a lot. faster and easier by and far. (look into making the update.zip from within titanium as a backup option)

[Q] Has Unrevoked stopped supporting the EVO??

They have not updated there root tool to crack the new HBOOT 2.02. Are they done with the EVO and moving on to other newer devices? I have a few friends that just got EVO's and they cant root them now because of the HBOOT version they have. Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Josh

Im sure they are working for an easy new root method patience man should be up soon
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forget unrevoked, use this method...it works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045

Ditto the above recommendation.
... worked for me.

Im just glad i rooted my phone just in time w toast method before this fiascal blows up.. Sorry peeps. Wish everyone Luck!
Sent from my phone.. I think using EViO???

That's weird... Unrevoked couldn't root my phone but I used their Unrevoked forever to do the NAND unlock... I have the 2.02 HBOOT...

yeah, i rooted 2.1 style, i keep kicking myself for not rooting my wife's phone at the time and then leaving it alone, now i don't know what way to go, as i never trusted the GUI methods
luckylui said:
Im just glad i rooted my phone just in time w toast method before this fiascal blows up.. Sorry peeps. Wish everyone Luck!
Sent from my phone.. I think using EViO???
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xlGmanlx said:
yeah, i rooted 2.1 style, i keep kicking myself for not rooting my wife's phone at the time and then leaving it alone, now i don't know what way to go, as i never trusted the GUI methods
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Why dont you like the GUI Method? It seems to be the safest hands down. Less steps = less problems. Unless unrevoked does something i dont know about, but its worked flawless for me the last 10 times i used it. Did it the old toast way 3 or 4 times, i prefer the ease of unrevoked... not that it was hard the other way. Definitely doesn't require being kicked though lol

when i was trying to root under 2.1 version, the GUI methods didn't work, and i jacked some **** up too. i had to go all the way back with a RUU. Plus using manual method gets you used to ADB/Fastboot commands etc. If a lot more people started out that way, lot less simple questions probably wouldn't get asked. Nothing against that team, just my personal preference, when you do GUI, you don't get all the principles behind what your doing, so you just expect everything to work.
nugzo said:
Why dont you like the GUI Method? It seems to be the safest hands down. Less steps = less problems. Unless unrevoked does something i dont know about, but its worked flawless for me the last 10 times i used it. Did it the old toast way 3 or 4 times, i prefer the ease of unrevoked... not that it was hard the other way. Definitely doesn't require being kicked though lol
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wrong forum

Useless post
Rakeesh_j said:
wrong forum
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xlGmanlx said:
when i was trying to root under 2.1 version, the GUI methods didn't work, and i jacked some **** up too. i had to go all the way back with a RUU. Plus using manual method gets you used to ADB/Fastboot commands etc. If a lot more people started out that way, lot less simple questions probably wouldn't get asked. Nothing against that team, just my personal preference, when you do GUI, you don't get all the principles behind what your doing, so you just expect everything to work.
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I must admit I am happy as hell as well that I got my phone when I did.... I rooted with Simple Root and have not looked back since. I rooted my phone with Unrevoked 3.21 and honestly it was the easiest thing I ever did. All you do is click a button and flawless...
I wish these new guys luck as well, oh well off to flash Caulkins 1.6

I'm totally new to Android and Rooting. But I just got my EVO 10/10 and rooted it with Unrevoked last night and installed FreshRom a few minutes ago. I had all the latest updates. Am I missing something?

KB112 said:
I'm totally new to Android and Rooting. But I just got my EVO 10/10 and rooted it with Unrevoked last night and installed FreshRom a few minutes ago. I had all the latest updates. Am I missing something?
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What HBOOT version do you have? Is it below 2.02? That would be the reason unrevoked worked for you.

I loaded the recovery screen and it said HBOOT was 0.94.0000 Does that sound right? I just did everything I saw in a How To video. Downloaded necessary drivers etc and then did everything in order. Worked just fine. Mine didn't exactly look like the walkthrough though. It didn't say Android 1 on my Device Manager it said Android phone and to update the drivers I had to expand the Android Phone selection. Just a few minor things, otherwise it all went smooth.

[Q] anyone got an update on unrevoked

anyone got an up date on the unrevoked update?
im itching to root
rob

nope still waiting.lol
Im still waiting also. But also know it will be done when its done.. Just sit back and wait it out like the rest of us.. and enjoy what i consider to be the best phone out there atm..

I hear ya ....
Bloatware is killin me
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

I returned my Incredible after the first week due to this stupid OTA update, and got a new incredible. Rooted it soon as I got home. Screw that update and waiting for a fix!

what did u tell them to get a new one?

First I called tech support and said it rebooted and was force closing. They had me do a factory reset.
Next day I went to store and told them about previous tech support, but told them it hadn't force closed anymore, but it continued to randomly reboot.
The tech guy asked if I had accepted the update, and I stated I had. He immediately said that was the cause of my problems, and swapped out the phone.
He said his girlfriend had an Incredible from day one, and when she accepted the update the other day, it would reboot at least once a day!

Sooo current new dincs can't be rooted yet? I've had mine since day one and rooted. Is there no root for the latest ota? Asking for my friend who just got one.
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You can't root the latest ota
KGBxxx said:
Sooo current new dincs can't be rooted yet? I've had mine since day one and rooted. Is there no root for the latest ota? Asking for my friend who just got one.
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who says he is lying?
luvit said:
sir, lying is against the rules.
Just so you know next time.
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It's only against the rules if you get caught.
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KGBxxx said:
Sooo current new dincs can't be rooted yet? I've had mine since day one and rooted. Is there no root for the latest ota? Asking for my friend who just got one.
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The NOV OTA can't be rooted yet. The Unrevoked3 tool doesn't work on it yet, they are working on an update for their tool, but no eta yet.
There are instructions to downgrade, use Unrevoked3 to root and install ClockworkMod, then use UnrevokedForever to get S-OFF, update to the OTA, and re-install CWM Recovery and SU to gain root.
Take a look at the discussion in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776481&page=13

Check out my thread, its being packed now, confirmed on the unrevoked twitter.
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Pkmn760 said:
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Exactly! It was force closing, but no rebooting More like stretching the truth.

i just got a brand new inc thru insurance (cracked my old one) and i activated it, booted up, and it i know it said 2.2 was installed. i said what the hell, tried to root it, and it worked. it must be an SLCD, becuase i got white bars, so im installing the modded recovery for SLCD now.

Exactly what I did when I got my new one. You just have to do it before you, or a vzw rep, accepts the update right after activating.

that must be why, the update did keep popping up lol. i guess it works on 2.2, but not if you go the Nov OTA. there is a guide to downgrade though so all phones can be rooted currently (not sure about SLCD that got the Nov. OTA though)

luvit said:
sir, lying is against the rules.
Just so you know next time.
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he is not lying he is merely leaving out the fact that his droid was rooted and is no longer...lol

ufvj217 said:
that must be why, the update did keep popping up lol. i guess it works on 2.2, but not if you go the Nov OTA. there is a guide to downgrade though so all phones can be rooted currently (not sure about SLCD that got the Nov. OTA though)
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Yes all phones can be downgraded even if they are completely stock..you can re-flash signed RUUs no problem from within HBOOT.
This really isn't that big of a deal that everyone is making it out to be, but it would be a "nice" feature once you are able to root the latest OTA directly especially for the very few who just leave their phones completely stock and do nothing but root it.
If you use custom ROMs none of this matters.

Just thought I'd mention that the 3.22 update was just posted on their site.

good to go!
http://www.unrevoked.com/recovery/
3.22

EVO software 3.70.651.1 Any 1 click root methods?

I have never rooted my phones (HTC Hero now HTC EVO) but after I the update on my phone, it added Blockbuster and Nova to my phone and I can't delete either. And Nova is not even the full game, its a limited version and asks me to buy the full one.
So I would like to root my phone if possible to remove this bloatware crap.
Do I have any options via a one click method that will allow me to root and do this with a permanent root effect?
Thanks,
Whiteice

no one clicks. look in the dev forum for the fly like a kite method though. easy enough.

UnrEVOked is releasing their new version for hboot 2.02 versions very soon.

heh and we just got the new 2.10 hboot. are they compatible? probably not. if htc is going to take the time to update, it is going to have some new features.

Ack! I didn't know that updated the HBOOT too.... *grumbles about accepting update*

Unrevoked 3.21 is not working for the evo's latest release. Gotta hold tight untill some one can root this build

Looks like unrevoked has version 3.22 out. Any word on that?

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Looks like unrevoked has version 3.22 out. Any word on that?
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3.22 has been out for a few weeks. It only fixed things for the incredible, not the evo.

WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I have never rooted my phones (HTC Hero now HTC EVO) but after I the update on my phone, it added Blockbuster and Nova to my phone and I can't delete either. And Nova is not even the full game, its a limited version and asks me to buy the full one.
So I would like to root my phone if possible to remove this bloatware crap.
Do I have any options via a one click method that will allow me to root and do this with a permanent root effect?
Thanks,
Whiteice
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Me too. Sprint is getting to high on them selfs...

not a one click root but many including myself have confirmed this to work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045

Man I feel so lame and old now..I used to be able to hack all sorts of phones when I was younger..I havent done it in a while now. I have a EVO 4G and I want to root and add the 2.3 ROM but I don't even know where to start..all this kernal and clockwork etc etc is so confusing to me x_x

boywonder23 said:
Man I feel so lame and old now..I used to be able to hack all sorts of phones when I was younger..I havent done it in a while now. I have a EVO 4G and I want to root and add the 2.3 ROM but I don't even know where to start..all this kernal and clockwork etc etc is so confusing to me x_x
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i second that im coming from a iphone and i was sick at jalibreaking and unlocking iphones even repairing them but android is like German cars their confusing to do work on them

oxclusiivexo said:
i second that im coming from a iphone and i was sick at jalibreaking and unlocking iphones even repairing them but android is like German cars their confusing to do work on them
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^Seriously...I've been trying to find a quick root guide, but the quick root guides are not so quick lol. In order to know what you are doing, you have to do so much research to know what the heck they are talking about. I used to do customer ROMs and crap all the time with my Touch Pro 2 Windows mobile phone, it was SOOO much easier. And this is coming from a Sprint Service Tech, I've been messing with phones for quite awhile...

Personally, i just started all this root & mod stuff recently. Its interesting but very time consuming. Like you said the method may be quick but we have to do an hr's worth of reaseach to make it make sense 1st....
**Headache.....i know**

Again, i am offering a step by step walkthrough. Macs too in case those pc methods have you stumped. People deserve root! Heh. No but seriously, I will help...

Hi i have a mac with HTC evo 3.70 need root please help
I need some help in how to root HTC EVO please someone that did it , i dont want to brick my phone is the first time i am doing this. I have search in the internet but almost everything is in PC and not on a mac

i second that also i need to know how to root android 3.70 there has to be an easier way to do it than doing it the old fashion long way, help! thanks in advance!

I HAVE A THEORY THAT REQUIRES NO ADB WHATSOEVER AND I NEED TESTERS! pm or email me and i will tell you what i plan. it is as simple as using rom manager to pull a fast one on z4root then using unrevoked forever. PLEASE HELP MY CAUSE...

Have no fear guys...the new Unrevoked should be out soon. The developers have been updating their twitter page daily...and their updates look promising
www.twitter.com/unrevoked
This new update is said to work with software version 3.30 as well as the new OTA 3.70.
I'm also too chicken to try the multi-step method so I'm just patiently waiting for the new Unrevoked to be released

I'm right up there with you. Successfully rooted my hero (adb) although I'm still not sure what I was doing. I'm still trying to get all the clockwork, RA recovery stuff clear in my head, and now I'm trying to root my new evo with 3.70 ota. The new headache begins!