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Dev. Opinions Wanted: Is the Hero *actually* a good candidate for Eclair

This is a question for all, but primarily for the devs who have been working with the various Android 2.1 builds.
I have been silently playing with many of the Android 2.1 flavours offered by the various developers posting here at XDA, and have been suitably impressed with all they have managed to accomplish, especially in the absence of the kernel source.
That said, most of the 2.1 ROMS are lacking in some manner (GPS tweaks required, battery life, bluetooth on calls, etc.) and all are slower than the optimized Cupcake ROMS (e.g. the MoDaCo ROMS).
I understand that the performance of the 2.1 ROMS is hampered in large part to the lack of the kernel source but the consistent speed discrepancy between Eclair and Cupcake leads me to the question at hand:
Even if the kernel source were available, does the Hero actually have the horsepower to run Eclair and offer performance similar to Cupcake? Would those of us who want similar performance be best advised to look at devices with a little more under the hood (Nexus One, Desire, etc)?
Devs, what do you think?

The fact of the matter is a 2.1 rom (official) is in development it has been announced and the fact there has been leaks in the CDMA hero shows that it does really exist.
If its being built for the hero then it will work.
Kernel sources will help solve a number of issues we are currently facing in the "custom" roms.
Every phone can do things differently for example 2.1 has live wallpaper support but we will never see this in any official rom as it will not work perfectly on the hero.
With every new leak we are getting closer and closer to what an "official" gsm hero rom will be like, but it will never be the same as for example a desire 2.1 rom.

I'm no dev but if the kernel source for 2.1 was released devs would be able to overclock the Hero so 2.1 ROMs would run much smoother. Also if you look at the Hero compared to its successor (the Legend) the most significant difference is the processor 528 MHz on the Hero and 600 MHz on the Legend. So I personally don't see why the Hero shouldn't get a 2.1+ ROM.

Without any doubt, YES, it does have enough power to run Android 2.1.
From what I have experienced, Eclair 2.1 WITHOUT HTC Sense works as fast as the original 1.5. If it runs like that now, I believe it will go better with an optimized kernel - when the sources will be available. As for the overclock (I would like to add that for me OC is a very important hobby), I don't see the reason why you would like to OC a mobile phone. Overclocking would make battery life go even faster than before, and to charge the Hero everyday... I don't think many of us want something like that.
What I think is the best way to improve a mobile phone performance, considering it runs Android, is to improve the software, not the hardware. After all, it's Linux.

Eclair runs on G1 better than Hero !!
even though Hero is more powerful !!
it's a Kernel and drivers issue
anyway, the update delay probably because of 2.2 (Froyo). it'll be released in May after all..
HTC didn't say that but it'll be dump (even retarded) to give us 2.1 after 2.2 is released !!

RaduG said:
Without any doubt, YES, it does have enough power to run Android 2.1.
From what I have experienced, Eclair 2.1 WITHOUT HTC Sense works as fast as the original 1.5. If it runs like that now, I believe it will go better with an optimized kernel - when the sources will be available. As for the overclock (I would like to add that for me OC is a very important hobby), I don't see the reason why you would like to OC a mobile phone. Overclocking would make battery life go even faster than before, and to charge the Hero everyday... I don't think many of us want something like that.
What I think is the best way to improve a mobile phone performance, considering it runs Android, is to improve the software, not the hardware. After all, it's Linux.
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I already have to charge my phone everyday becaue I am always playing witht it or text or on the internet... and right now im running Kimera 1.6 Overclocked and it feels as if I get the same if not similar battery life.

The Hero shouldn't be doubted when it comes to being able to run 2.1, as previously mentioned its the other things like live wallpapers that were not developed for this type of CPU.
Whats the crack with the dream running it? did HTC release the sources for the kernel? or just plain ole group hacking?

Without any doubt, YES, it does have enough power to run Android 2.1.
From what I have experienced, Eclair 2.1 WITHOUT HTC Sense works as fast as the
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I already have to charge my phone everyday becaue I am always playing witht it or text or on the internet... and right now im running Kimera 1.6 Overclocked and it feels as if I get the same if not similar battery life.
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Same here. The Kimera 1.6 overclocked ROM is amazing. I've been using it for a few days now, and I have to agree the battery life is almost identical to stock 1.5 in my opinion.
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So other than Fresh and CM6, what were the best active ROMs?

I can't get Titanium Backup to work on Fresh 3.2.0.0 (believe me, I've tried it all) and I have wifi connection problems on CM6 with my school's network. Don't recommend DC because it is essentially dead. What's a solid, regularly updated ROM?
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i would suggest Evio. though it doesnt update constantly either.
while i disagree that DC is dead and think people are to reliant on updates to determine what a good rom is i will leave it at that.

omegasun18 said:
i would suggest Evio. though it doesnt update constantly either.
while i disagree that DC is dead and think people are to reliant on updates to determine what a good rom is i will leave it at that.
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Well when they've pushed out one measly update since Froyo was released, I would say it is fairly dead.

what would you have them update? besides some minor changes to dconfig/dc updater that could help i cant think of what they need to change to make it better. all functions work. it has all there tweaks. there hasnt been a major ota yet to add features they need to update, and it comes with a stock kernel so they dont need to re update to to put kernel fixes into it.
for me and most others i have seen post it is stable and everything works. i am jsut not sure what people feel needs to be updated with there rom. other roms use there own kernel so i can see them needing to tweak there rom for it or they are ASOP and are building things from the ground up so want to release as much as possible as the progress. for a rom based off of stock with out its own kernel that works and to my knowledge has no major rampant issues i guess i dont get why people feel they must have an update yet.

omegasun18 said:
what would you have them update? besides some minor changes to dconfig/dc updater that could help i cant think of what they need to change to make it better. all functions work. it has all there tweaks. there hasnt been a major ota yet to add features they need to update, and it comes with a stock kernel so they dont need to re update to to put kernel fixes into it.
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Maybe things like performance fixes, optimization, building off the latest HTC build (like Fresh). There are a million things you can do to a ROM. The old DC ROMs got constant updates.

TheBiles said:
Maybe things like performance fixes, optimization, building off the latest HTC build (like Fresh). There are a million things you can do to a ROM. The old DC ROMs got constant updates.
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Do you have bad performance with dc? i do agree they could make an update to the leaked ota ala fresh that would be nice to see but i wouldnt call it dead because they havent updated to using it yet (i believe only FRESH has so far) it is relatively newly leaked.
As for performance and optimization are there specifics optimizations or tweaks you feel it doesnt have that will a make big difference? I follow all the top 6-7 roms and flash each rom as a new version comes out. (i will say havent gotten to flash fresh 3.2 yet) Besides CM which is specifically built for speed i dont feel any of them currently offer a big advantage over Dc and dc HASNT updated.
i guess to each there own. i am sure they could make minor tweaks and changes and release more frequent updates. I am sure many would be much happier. For me personally i like having a steady true daily driver that doesnt change every few days with minor often unnoticeable tweaks.
I didnt object to you not liking DC each person has to find the rom they like i object to people calling it dead because they havent put out an update every week.
my recommendation on EVIO still stand of all the roms i have used (all the top name roms except the newest fresh) i find it is the only one that has made me debate switching to it as a daily driver.

omegasun18 said:
Do you have bad performance with dc? i do agree they could make an update to the leaked ota ala fresh that would be nice to see but i wouldnt call it dead because they havent updated to using it yet (i believe only FRESH has so far) it is relatively newly leaked.
As for performance and optimization are there specifics optimizations or tweaks you feel it doesnt have that will a make big difference? I follow all the top 6-7 roms and flash each rom as a new version comes out. (i will say havent gotten to flash fresh 3.2 yet) Besides CM which is specifically built for speed i dont feel any of them currently offer a big advantage over Dc and dc HASNT updated.
i guess to each there own. i am sure they could make minor tweaks and changes and release more frequent updates. I am sure many would be much happier. For me personally i like having a steady true daily driver that doesnt change every few days with minor often unnoticeable tweaks.
I didnt object to you not liking DC each person has to find the rom they like i object to people calling it dead because they havent put out an update every week.
my recommendation on EVIO still stand of all the roms i have used (all the top name roms except the newest fresh) i find it is the only one that has made me debate switching to it as a daily driver.
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Hey, I was a huge fan of the 2.1 DC ROM, and it got all kinds of update love.
So what makes EVIO different from Fresh and Ava?

TheBiles said:
Hey, I was a huge fan of the 2.1 DC ROM, and it got all kinds of update love.
So what makes EVIO different from Fresh and Ava?
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one of the big differences i like is that dalvik is on the cache partition. I like most of the tweaks he has made to the system I am not sure what all of the are but the roms seems very very smooth and i get comparable battery life to DC on battery saving profile (no other rom i have tried has given me this). With most roms i have at least 1 or 2 issues with something (though many are minor). I remove sense and htc apps/widgets usually and after doing so it seems to preform better then ava did for me.
I also believe he modifies the King kernel to tweak set cpu settings and a few other things to try to optimize it for this rom. I know he has in the past (not 100% if he changed #8 with the new 1.2 release).
overall i think it is very similar quality to Fresh. the difference for me is that my battery life is ok with fresh but good with Evio (same set up).

What's up TheBiles, I remember your thread early on about battery life improvements with autostarts and setcpu.
I'm having good results with the BakedSnack series. Currently on 1.5 using Kings BFS #6 Kernel. I would be on 1.6 right now if I wasn't doing a battery calibration for a new battery I got.
I think it's one of the most active ROM's out there, 6.5 updates since Froyo has been released and each update has been an improvement with thoughtful changes. You only need to look at the changelog, from 1.0 and on, in the thread to see what separates it from other ROM's.
Unlike some other ROM's, he isn't just updating system APK's and increasing the version number - he's really putting in the effort to balance out stability, performance, and battery life.

Philosuffer said:
What's up TheBiles, I remember your thread early on about battery life improvements with autostarts and setcpu.
I'm having good results with the BakedSnack series. Currently on 1.5 using Kings BFS #6 Kernel. I would be on 1.6 right now if I wasn't doing a battery calibration for a new battery I got.
I think it's one of the most active ROM's out there, 6.5 updates since Froyo has been released and each update has been an improvement with thoughtful changes. You only need to look at the changelog, from 1.0 and on, in the thread to see what separates it from other ROM's.
Unlike some other ROM's, he isn't just updating system APK's and increasing the version number - he's really putting in the effort to balance out stability, performance, and battery life.
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I'll have to check that out! Right now I was testing out Ava-Froyo for the sole reason that it has the same name as my daughter.

[Q] Differences between 2.1 and 2.2

To all 2.2 android rom users: I'd like to know which are the main differences between these two releases (considering an upgrade).
Sent from my MB525

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Note that certain individual features may not be supported at maker's discretion.

Thanks for the link, already saw it, but I'd like to ear direct feedback from users .
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I don't know but differences between official update with motoblur is that:
Windows vista 64 bit is android 2.1
Windows 7 64 bit is android 2.2
Hope you understand this !

Real differences I have found is speed, market downloads you can update all, flash full version for browsing, thats about it really.

shad0wboss said:
I don't know but differences between official update with motoblur is that:
Windows vista 64 bit is android 2.1
Windows 7 64 bit is android 2.2
Hope you understand this !
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Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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I had to upgrade by accident.
It's been 48 hours...
Definitely a better experience than Eclair.
You get Profiles (Like HTC Scenes) now, Flash, A2SD, Snappier performance, and probably a whole lot of other things I haven't had time to notice yet...
psixda said:
Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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adding to what was previously said:
New Gmail app
Push to phone API (chrome to phone, install from web market, etc)
Different memory/task managment
... + some little improvment overall the system.

better, yes, but worths the trouble to get it on your defy? only you can answer that.

psixda said:
Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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Totally mate, it is hell fast and 2.3 is even faster plus you get other things with 2.2 such as full flash support, better performace and speed of course. You can feel it wen playing games and when the benchmark scores double the benchmakrs when running 2.1

999phonebug said:
better, yes, but worths the trouble to get it on your defy? only you can answer that.
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That's the point. Probably I'll wait for Motorola official update, since I use this phone for work and I don't want to mess it up. Anyway glad to know newer versions are faster .
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Just to add my thoughts...
The biggest difference I have seen between 2.1 and 2.2 is a reduction in battery life.
On 2.1, both the original 2.21 that my handset came with and the 2.34 Blur-lite ROM I flashed, I could easily get 2 days of what I consider 'normal' usage between charges, 3 days if I really didn't use it much.
With 2.2, I've only seen a day or so of 'normal' use before needing to charge and that's having used Higgsy's modified build on top of the Chinese Froyo sbf and the new Orange Blur-lite ROM too.
Beyond that, the only noticeable difference IMO is the addition of flash in the browser.

So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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psixda said:
That's the point. Probably I'll wait for Motorola official update, since I use this phone for work and I don't want to mess it up. Anyway glad to know newer versions are faster .
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I didn't notice that the battery is running out faster on 2.2, I think it can last 2-day based on the remaining capacity at night (I charge every night) on normal usage.
But if you're using this for work I seriously discourage you to mess it up. Although if you flash those .sbf I suppose it's pretty simple but still... You understand.
There are some apps that doesn't support pre-2.2, BTW.

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So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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What exactly are you looking for then?

kiladubz said:
What exactly are you looking for then?
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Guys, stop flashing custom roms and confusing other people, custom rom does have 2.2 but it's custom and it prolly overclocks the cpu at high voltage which can be a reason for you to have battery drainage.
We yet can't say anything about 2.2 update because we haven't recieved it officially just yet. What i said in my previous posts is by looking at other phones such as Samsung Galaxy S (quite similar to defy cpu wise) and then when i looked at benchmakrs (performace) of it running on 2.1 and 2.2, there was a great difference and in 2.2 it performed quite well.
So don't consider custom roms as real updates, they are totally modified with tons of changes.
Right now, we don't even know if the stock speed of official update for defy is 1GHZ or 800MHZ...and if it's 1GHZ then i believe the battery will run out faster but we just can't say anything unless we get the official update OR a user who already had the official motorola update on defy (o2 germany users) can actually tell us the difference between 2.1 and 2.2

psixda said:
So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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With regards to performance, my Defy performed well enough under 2.1 that I haven't noticed any difference.
That's not to say that Froyo hasn't necessarily improved matters, just that I haven't seen any practical difference so far - benchmarks are all well and good but they don't make any difference to how a phone works on a day-to-day basis.
shad0wboss said:
Guys, stop flashing custom roms and confusing other people, custom rom does have 2.2 but it's custom and it prolly overclocks the cpu at high voltage which can be a reason for you to have battery drainage.
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You're guessing and you're wrong.
Firstly, when I did flash a custom ROM, true enough it came with the means to allow you to overclock the CPU but it wasn't automatically activated, you still had to do that yourself.
Secondly, as I said before, I've tried more than one Froyo ROM and the on I'm using now is not a custom ROM but the battery life is still just as poor.

Step666 said:
With regards to performance, my Defy performed well enough under 2.1 that I haven't noticed any difference.
That's not to say that Froyo hasn't necessarily improved matters, just that I haven't seen any practical difference so far - benchmarks are all well and good but they don't make any difference to how a phone works on a day-to-day basis.
You're guessing and you're wrong.
Firstly, when I did flash a custom ROM, true enough it came with the means to allow you to overclock the CPU but it wasn't automatically activated, you still had to do that yourself.
Secondly, as I said before, I've tried more than one Froyo ROM and the on I'm using now is not a custom ROM but the battery life is still just as poor.
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Maybe your cpu is running on different voltage? because OS has got nothing to do with battery life tbh lol
you can have millions of programs running in the background because of your custom rom?

Maybe I spoke too soon...
I don't know what's changed but I'm ~32 houes since charging my handset and have (according to DefyBatt) 55% of my battery left.
The battery's not new, so I don't get why it would need to bed in on the new ROM, yet that seems to be the key

For me, the biggest difference is the new apps that require 2.2 - primarily Chrome To Phone, which I love.
Other than that, 2.2 is faster than stock 2.1, but if you had JIT enabled on 2.1, then the difference isn't huge.
I haven't noticed any difference in battery life.
Basically, it's a minor performance boost, and the ability to use some programs which I couldn't with 2.1.

Most stable blur-less rom?

Hi all.
Just setting up a Defy for a less technical fellow and was wondering which rom you would recommend. Chief considerations are stability, battery life, and as little blur as possible. Thanks.

I have been using J boogie's Deblur Honey based on finland 3.4.2-145 sbf for about a week now. I OCed to 1000mhz, got anywhere between 1350-1500 in quadrant. Not using setCPU or set vsel, and I go through my day ~14-16 hours with moderate web surfing and checking fb and have 40-30% left. So I think that's pretty good, especially w/o setvsel/setcpu which i don't like using because im a mimimalist.

3.4.2-155 is proving the most stable for me.

I tried 3.4.2-155 and it worked great except for a lack of 3G.

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I have been using J boogie's Deblur Honey based on finland 3.4.2-145 sbf for about a week now. I OCed to 1000mhz, got anywhere between 1350-1500 in quadrant. Not using setCPU or set vsel, and I go through my day ~14-16 hours with moderate web surfing and checking fb and have 40-30% left. So I think that's pretty good, especially w/o setvsel/setcpu which i don't like using because im a mimimalist.
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running the same rom for several days, I didn't OC, still smooth, no issues, very good rom...

Barebones (by fritolays) based on 3.4.2-155 is just amazing if you're looking for speed, stability and a heavy deblur. But, pay attention to the name, it's definitely barebone, you may have to add some apps by your own.

If the owner is not very technical oriented just flash stock 3.4.2-155. I use it since it appeared and is rock stable.

I also recommend 3.4.2-155 . This one has the fastest booting time, and its solid.
Good luck

quadruple dito. I am currently using Pays ROM which is based on the 155 build and it's been amazing thus far. I flashed several other ROMs based off other builds and overall have been greatly pleased...but Pays gave me the highest quadrant score so far (1507 oc'd at 30/300, 54/700, 70/1200).

Quintuple dito.
Using deblurred rom with custom style and tweaks and I am very happy with it.
Similar in speed as my HD2 was on froyo... and much better battery live.
Defy neeeds cm7, though.

I am currently using Pays 5.0 ROM which is based on the 3.4.3-11 build and it's fast and stable. Originally 3.4.3-11 is a blur rom, but you can skip the account creation and pay removed a lot of unnecessary stuff from that.

3.4.2-155-2
1 week of use, 0 problems

Best/recomended MIUI rom?

Hello all.
I've been out the loop for a while now, still got stock sense on my DZ but have recently become very interested in MIUI roms. I have a few quick questions I hope someone can answer as after reading the various roms etc I'm a bit confused.
1. How well do MIUI roms work with the hardware keyboard? I'm seeing a few threads saying it isn't totally supported. This is a deal breaker for me really, can anyone clarify?
2. Which MIUI rom? I see there is an official one, but also others similar to official eg MIUIandroid, any particular 'best' version?
3. How is the battery life compared to sense? Does anyone have any current draw figures for screen off etc, my sense draws around 32mA screen off.
4. I assume they come with overclockable kernels, if so, is OC beater or whatever it's called still the best to use?
I'm interested to hear from MIUI users, sell it to me.

1. I've had no problems while using the keyboard with MIUI, it seems to work the same way as before. I have heard some people say that their backlights don't work but mine do. However, landscape is not supported on the homescreen but it is everywhere else.
2. I use the official english supported rom for Desire Z/G2, you can get it from ROM Manager or the MIUI website. I'm not sure about the best one because I've only used the official one.
I don't know about 3 and 4 but I do enjoy using MIUI. It was the first rom I used after I rooted my phone. I used to want sense but because of emoji support and themes I probably won't use another. I do recommend it as I have not been disappointed.

Thanks for replying.
Instead of exact current figures, maybe you could say what your typical daily use is like and what your battery level is at the end of the day?

I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.

Myrmidon83 said:
Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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good luck and enjoy. Give it a couple of charge cycles with the CPU adjusted you should see a significant improvement.
I generally run 900mhz Max with interactive governor.
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i definitely recommend the MIUIandroid version, the translation is far more complete. Miui.us just has faster servers! If you send/receive a bunch of picture messages, I suggest you download my modified Mms.apk from the link in my signature, more info is in that thread.
I've been using MIUI.au v4 for the last few days. pictures are slightly annoying, but if you take two or three, you usually get a good one, but the pictures do have to be taken in landscape.

Well I have been running it for the day and I have to say that I love it! Much better than sense, seems really stable and I love the customisation.
I was going to ask about that mms thing, I'll check the thread out.
As for the battery, it has run down quite quick today but I've been playing with it a lot and expect to need to have a few charge cycles till it settles.
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?

Myrmidon83 said:
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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Just to give you an answer, I don't know. But it's an AOSP kernel so... it should!

Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.

Take a look at the bulletproof add on pack. It includes some nice tweaks, one being a kernel that supports OCing.
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MarkyG82 said:
I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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I will like to second that! Im running a MIUI V4 port by ajhavery and lenny_kano (MIUI_Au 4.0.3 base 2.3.2) and it is working very well. Except my battery life is not as good as the official MIUI ROMS. BTW Angel Camera from the market works perfectly on this ROM with no glitches.

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Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
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Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.

Myrmidon83 said:
Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
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1. Bulletproof addon is for ANY 2.3 based miui. NOT miui v4.
2. The chip in dz/g2 is designed to run at 1ghz. Htc just UCed it to save on juice and market it as a lower spec (that's how I understood it anyway). I find at 800 it just feels a touch laggy. That extra 100 takes the edge off.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

Does installing bulletproof clear any data at all?
Is it flashed from recovery?

Shouldn't clear anything. I say shouldn't as you can never guarantee it. I've never had any issues. Always a good idea to clear cache and dalvik when flashing anything. And yes, its flashed in recovery.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

So I flashed this at the weekend and so far all is well.
Though I must admit, I'm not noticing the battery gains I was hoping for, a minimal boost is all. It does kinda seem that it uses more with the screen on than it used to, some comparison figures for those interested, taken using battery monitor widget.
Screen Off
Stock Sense: 31-34mA current draw
MIUI: 28mA Current Draw
Screen On (taken as sitting at homescreen doing nothing)
Stock Sense: 147-190mA
MIUI: 137-230mA
It's probably still calibrating and I never wiped the battery stats. Would there be a benefit in doing so?
Also, I have noticed that when charging, the light goes green when charge is only around 90% done, any news on this?

The light goes green once the battery is > 90%, this is more or less intended behaviour.
There had been a recent announcement by a Google employee that wiping the battery stats has no visible battery life improvement. All it does is wipe the statistics file that shows you what uses your battery. What you can merely do is run the battery down to 20~% (wouldn't go below that as the failsafe might go off) and then back to 100% for 3-4 times, so that the Battery Meter can become more accurate. From there it is ideal to run it down to 20-30% twice every month in order to keep the battery health in good shape.
MIUI was merely created to be iPhone-ish, cool looking, and very user friendly. It looks awesome, inarguably, but battery life isn't it's strong point. I wouldn't be surprised if it draw more than Sense itself, too. ROM's that have the best battery life are barebones. These have a lot of features suppressed in order to save up in RAM as well as battery consumption. There's also little customizing you can do to them.
However, if you want a good battery life ROM that does not cost you anything in features, you should try Tsubus' ILWT CM7 ROM. It is a CyanogenMod 7 based ROM, that has been fine tuned for speed and battery life alike. I've been a user for a long time and the phones takes me easily through a day with plenty of juice left (about 40-50%). You will have to go through the above meter calibration process again.

Yeah I know and don't get me wrong, MIUI gets me through a day no problem, maybe I was just being a bit too hopeful.
Have to say though that I have fallen in love with MIUI, I can't imagine using another rom now.

well if you are looking to use the bulletproof addon then i made a rom myself with some mods included in it... you can check it out from the link in my signature...