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I own a motorola defy and after watching this video i had a smile on my face and thought maybe if i share with some users here, it might make them happy too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IuX70jEP4A
a little quote: "lol, defy is still on 2.1. With 2.2 it will way outrun the galaxy s."
shad0wboss said:
I own a motorola defy and after watching this video i had a smile on my face and thought maybe if i share with some users here, it might make them happy too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IuX70jEP4A
a little quote: "lol, defy is still on 2.1. With 2.2 it will way outrun the galaxy s."
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Haha, outrun Galaxy S?
I think that isn't possible... in CPU maybe ( but i'm still in doubt ) in GPU, no color...
The Galaxy S have better GPU clocked to 200Mhz....
The defy GPU as underclocked to 110Mhz but at 200Mhz, Galaxy S stills better in GPU performance.
Maybe if any developer try to overclock the GPU, we can obtain some more extra graphics power.
PD: The video it's OK make me funy thanks for sharing
put them under water and let´s see the faster
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Very funny
with ultraoverclock and the water cooling system defy can beat the galaxy S which with water drown
tomeu0000 said:
Haha, outrun Galaxy S?
I think that isn't possible... in CPU maybe ( but i'm still in doubt ) in GPU, no color...
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I agree, but I think the desire is even better for CPU..
I have a galaxy s. My gf has a defy. No. It doesn't beat the galaxy. The io speed is slow because of the rfs file system that Samsung used. The defy is an awesome and very capable phone ( I envy her sometimes) but the galaxy has better hardware.
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the defy is a meaner beast then most think! especially overclocked with froyo!
gpu on galaxy is the 540 vs 530 on defy, so no defy wont win on 3d the galaxy...
well...i mean u never know because in that vid, defy hits 4x fps when galaxy hits 5x fps. I've read on forum that 2.2 froyo is twice faster then 2.1 but lets see when froyo hits defy.
I believe defy will get atleast same fps as galaxy in that game atleast with froyo
EDIT: i mean adreno 200 which is Desire's GPU, it's twice as fast as PowerVR 530 (Defy's GPU) and the CPU is scorpion 1ghz (desire) but desire has half the FPS compared to Defy...
Adreno 200 inside the QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27 (600 MHz A11+L2 cache). It offers a programmable function pipeline and streaming textures with support for OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw.
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when i heard that Defy's GPU (PowerVR SGX 530) runs at 200 mhz clock speed which is quite slow compared to adreno 200 (HTC DESIRE's GPU) so i mean, i don't think it's all about GPU or CPU ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-GLKQ2W528
I heard at some places that 2.2 update will overclock Defy's cpu to 1ghz and in this video this guy has cpu at 1ghz and it basically scores 1414 in quadrant benchmark which is above Nexus one running at 2.2
The PowerVR SGX 530 of the Defy (also iPhone 3GS) runs circles around the Adreno 200 of the Desire, Nexus One etc when it comes to 3D performance. That's why you're seeing almost double the score in neocore compared to the Desire.
The Froyo update doesn't do much to the raw 3D performance of the Defy. I'm running 2.2.1 @ 1,2 GHz and I'm "still" at 40-something FPS in neocore (1500+ points in Quadrant). It's just too dependent on GPU performance.
That's the reason why even the Nokia N8 with it's crap CPU and less RAM shines at 3D games - it's got an awesome GPU.
So for reaching the 3D performance of the Galaxy S or Adreno 205 devices like the Desire HD? No dice! (unless someone figures out how to overclock the GPU safely)
But having said that, even the arguably most-demanding 3D game for Android available, Dungeon Defenders, runs just fine on the Defy. Maybe not totally buttery smooth like on the SGS, but still very fluently. Something the Desire isn't capable of and one of the reasons for me getting a Defy rather than a Desire.
I'm starting to like the Defy more and more...
I got a SGS and my GF will get a Defy today... We might swap because she likes the looks of a SGS more (women).
I been reading on the Devy and it's puting up quite a fight against SGS so I think I won't regret trading and losing some power.
Also wanting to get into Android and customising which somehow I think I better use the cheaper Defy for.
Love the defy, my boss has a Desire HD its just a bit too big really and does not perform as well, especially if you put it under the tap!
Whn you buy defy, mak sure that the ear speaker is working properly becaue it is very common for defy to have its ear speakers stop workng.
I bought mine a month ago and after two wees, it stopped working, now i'll be getting a new defy tomorow hopefully or arepaired one :/
but just to le you know that this is the only defect in this handset.
EDIT: Samsung galaxy is running on 2.2 froyo + it has a more latest GPU and higher CPU so make sure if these things don't matter to you then you can trade your SGS for defy
Hi
Which is better? Tegra3 or Mali 400
I don't know mate, this is what my phone after the update is capable of now.
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Well it will be a race for sure
Mali might be faster (or maybe not), but Tegra 3 definitely better. Because it has better, enhanced games. Developers develop for Tegra. They don't develop for Mali or Adreno.
One guy complained that Shadowgun looks better on my phone than on his iPad3 - I had to explain that I'm running THD version, that we have those Tegra enhanced games. That makes a difference.
Tegra 3 will run all games. Adreno/Mali will require Chainfire3D with plugins to run Tegra games.
Thats my view on that.
The Mali 400 is old now, it`s not what the sg3 is getting surely.
John.
Even if SGS3 will get Mali T-604, I will stick with Tegra 3 for now. Unless I see games dedicated for T-604, and more than just one.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/20/galaxy-s-iii-leak/
according to this it will have the 400
antipesto93 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/20/galaxy-s-iii-leak/
according to this it will have the 400
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Didn't notice it mention 400. But if true people would find it disappointing, even that 400 is still serious piece of hardware. Given 720p screen, performance would be worse compared to SGS2.
The Mali's performance is the same as the Tegra 3's in graphics benchmarks I've done on my Note Vs my Prime and my One X (just goes to show how average the Tegra 3 GPU really is I think, no better than something at least 6 months older). Disappointing it's not the upgraded GPU if that is accurate, but doesn't differentiate the products at all.
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The Mali 400 is old now
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Technically, so is Teg3. S4 uses 28nm and the 4212 uses 32nm. Teg3 is two 45nm A9 chips glommed together because Nvidia wanted to be first to market with a next-gen chip. It's the least advanced of any of the three SoCs. From a GPU perspective none of the three really move the ball forward and are just evolutionary vs. revolutionary. If I had to guess best overall performance I’d say 4212, Teg3, and S4 in that order. Because S4 and the 4212 are on smaller dies they’ll be more efficient and handily beat Teg3 at battery life (except maybe at idle).
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Technically, so is Teg3. S4 uses 28nm and the 4212 uses 32nm. Teg3 is two 45nm A9 chips glommed together because Nvidia wanted to be first to market with a next-gen chip. It's the least advanced of any of the three SoCs. From a GPU perspective none of the three really move the ball forward and are just evolutionary vs. revolutionary. If I had to guess best overall performance I’d say 4212, Teg3, and S4 in that order. Because S4 and the 4212 are on smaller dies they’ll be more efficient and handily beat Teg3 at battery life (except maybe at idle).
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tegra3 is actually made on the 40nm. nvidia still has tsmc's 40nm process and is migrating towards 28nm with desktop GPUs and will eventually migrate to 28nm with the tegra3+.
i hate how people always say that its a bad thing that apple didn`t upgrade the gpu but fust added more cores or samsung didn`t change the mali 400 gpu. the fact is that the mali and sgx543mp2 were ahead when they were released. now there is actual competition like the adreno 320 and tegra 3/4. a simple overclocked sgx or mali chip is enough to keep up with the competition.
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The Mali's performance is the same as the Tegra 3's in graphics benchmarks I've done on my Note Vs my Prime and my One X (just goes to show how average the Tegra 3 GPU really is I think, no better than something at least 6 months older). Disappointing it's not the upgraded GPU if that is accurate, but doesn't differentiate the products at all.
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Mali 400/450 is a 2nd generation GPU like tegra 2, only 44 millions polygons/sec, My Adreno 205 is 41 millions & The Tegra 3 is 129 millions.
Gameloft games in the end of 2012 will need 100 millions...
The Mali 3rd generation is Mali T-604/640 & Mali say that's it is 500% the performances of previous Mali GPU's :
http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-t604.php
500% is using quad-core optimised applis (only tegra 3 will have it in less than 2 years) but it's 250% in dual-core...
As Tegra 3 is equal to T-604, Mali 400 is pawned...
-1st gen (Adreno 200, mali 200/300, SGX Power VR 520/530 & tegra 1)
-2nd gen (Adreno 205, Mali 400MP/450MP, SGX Power VR 540/554 & tegra 2)
-3rd gen (Adreno 220/225/320, Mali T604/640, SGX Power VR G 6200/6430 & Tegra 3)
Sekhen said:
Mali 400/450 is a 2nd generation GPU like tegra 2, only 44 millions polygons/sec, My Adreno 205 is 41 millions & The Tegra 3 is 129 millions.
Gameloft games in the end of 2012 will need 100 millions...
The Mali 3rd generation is Mali T-604/640 & Mali say that's it is 500% the performances of previous Mali GPU's :
http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-t604.php
500% is using quad-core optimised applis (only tegra 3 will have it in less than 2 years) but it's 250% in dual-core...
As Tegra 3 is equal to T-604, Mali 400 is pawned...
-1st gen (Adreno 200, mali 200/300, SGX Power VR 520/530 & tegra 1)
-2nd gen (Adreno 205, Mali 400MP/450MP, SGX Power VR 540/554 & tegra 2)
-3rd gen (Adreno 220/225/320, Mali T604/640, SGX Power VR G 6200/6430 & Tegra 3)
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link to your numbers about Tegra 3?
I have not used any device with Mali 400. Sorry mate~~
I think that tegra 3 is better but we have to attend the 3.x kernel to solve the battery problem properly.
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Mali-400 is good and strong and Tegra 3 might not be the fastest one there is, but it's the only one that gets best looking games. On top of that, Tegra 3 Plus is coming soon and then next year another one with direct x and supposed console-like performance. See what Nvidia does for desktops and just hope they keep the pace with mobile GPU and we will get there too. I don't really consider non-tegra device unless it amazes me with noticeably better power efficiency or optimized games start coming out for it.
Would you buy non-nvidia and non-ati graphics card for your pc?
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Mali-400 is good and strong and Tegra 3 might not be the fastest one there is, but it's the only one that gets best looking games. On top of that, Tegra 3 Plus is coming soon and then next year another one with direct x and supposed console-like performance. See what Nvidia does for desktops and just hope they keep the pace with mobile GPU and we will get there too. I don't really consider non-tegra device unless it amazes me with noticeably better power efficiency or optimized games start coming out for it.
Would you buy non-nvidia and non-ati graphics card for your pc?
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Exactly!
Given the choice, I would buy a Tegra device over anything else.
I hope this is the right forum? I've been looking for the correct GPU on the SM-T210R Wi-Fi only Tab? I've done a few searches and it comes up PXA986 1.2 GHz dual-core with the PowerVR SGX540 ??? Then it goes off and says a totally different CPU/GPU combo.. The reason is I'm trying to get a game and it has 4 different gpu's zips from Mali, Tegra, Adreno and PoverVR and I'm trying to locate the correct one.. Any help Thanks!
And RocketTab 3.1 for the WIN! (LOL)
Jami:laugh:
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T210/R and T211 use Vivante GC1000 core gpu
hamed... said:
T210/R and T211 use Vivante GC1000 core gpu
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So what digging I did that is aka PowerVR? There is 4 different Injustice Gods Among us files Adreno, Mali, PowerVR and Tegra. I know it's not Tegra that's Nvidia and some Samsung uses Mali and Adreno and the other PowerVR has a / Vivante GC1000 ... So thanks I'll give the PowerVR a go and hope it all works after all the downloading lol Thanks!!
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jkdillon627 said:
So what digging I did that is aka PowerVR? There is 4 different Injustice Gods Among us files Adreno, Mali, PowerVR and Tegra. I know it's not Tegra that's Nvidia and some Samsung uses Mali and Adreno and the other PowerVR has a / Vivante GC1000 ... So thanks I'll give the PowerVR a go and hope it all works after all the downloading lol Thanks!!
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Good luck:good:
hi
jkdillon627 said:
I hope this is the right forum? I've been looking for the correct GPU on the SM-T210R Wi-Fi only Tab? I've done a few searches and it comes up PXA986 1.2 GHz dual-core with the PowerVR SGX540 ??? Then it goes off and says a totally different CPU/GPU combo.. The reason is I'm trying to get a game and it has 4 different gpu's zips from Mali, Tegra, Adreno and PoverVR and I'm trying to locate the correct one.. Any help Thanks!
And RocketTab 3.1 for the WIN! (LOL)
Jami:laugh:
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Did it work for you ? i am trying to install real racing 3 and struck with the same reason.
Hey everyone,
As time goes by and technology is progressing our phone feels like its an ancient phone. One of the reasons for it is its processor which is dual core clocked at 1.2 GHz. A few years back to get a mobile chip to break the 1.0 GHz speed was a wonder, now its history.
To keep up with the progression, over clocking the cortex a9 chip sounds interesting. But it does have its pros and Con's. What are they?
I just read an article regarding a9 chip which was overclocked at 3.1 GHz speed which sounds terrific. Here is the link to that article.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/tsmc-ramps-28nm-arm-cortex-a9-chip-to-3-1ghz/
Can it be done for galaxy grand?
What about PowerVR 6200 GPU vs Adreno 430?
A good question!
What's actually inside these processors...
Can't post outside link... Its (8) a53 processors clocked at 2.0ghz w/ powervr 6200
The 810 being (4)a53/(4)a57 big.LITTLE combo.
Long story short geekbench says the mediatek wins in multicore barely, but is smashed in single core, because it's a true octacore, but just a midrange one severely overclocked, with last generations gpu running the blinky flashy show.
this is all based on mt6795 not sure what the (t) means...
atomikpunx said:
What's actually inside these processors...
Can't post outside link... Its (8) a53 processors clocked at 2.0ghz w/ powervr 6200
The 810 being (4)a53/(4)a57 big.LITTLE combo.
Long story short geekbench says the mediatek wins in multicore barely, but is smashed in single core, because it's a true octacore, but just a midrange one severely overclocked, with last generations gpu running the blinky flashy show.
this is all based on mt6795 not sure what the (t) means...
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So, what does this mean in real world use?
Sharpshooterrr said:
So, what does this mean in real world use?
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Last mediatek proccesors trully provide smoothness, the MTK6795T is just a flashy overclocked MTK6795, yes, it beats the SD810, even the snapdragron 805 beats the 810 in some devices, maybe is because the 810 throttles himself to the oblivion.
MediaTek SOC's are known to have crap embedded security.
Additionally if you think about the ways in which the big.LITTLE architecture works it makes a lot more logical sense than a makeup of 8 cores in a true octa-core setup.
M9+ is out, so we'll see