Hey there everyone I have a question. When reading over a forum i noticed that a user had commented this
"DJSteve had been playing with ext4 for the Dell Streak. Its not 100% reliable yet but scores in Quadrant are hitting 3000+. When added to his Froyo ROM, OC kernel and other tweaks the device is lightening fast."
Do we have any Roms that can take advantage of the ext4 file system? Because if these are the scores on a 1st gen Snapdragon imagine what we would get!
BTW I am running GingerVillian1.1 Beta
Thanks for a few minutes of your life,
macfan74318
Those benchmarking programs really don't give you much of a picture of overall performance, and things like filesystem caching can have a HUGE effect on filesystem benchmarking. Don't read too much into benchmarks, ext4 is NOT going to give you any magical new telekinetic powers. Its performance is *very* similar to ext3 (which you already are using).
The cm7 gb roms are ext4. You have to upgrade cwm if you want to back up and restore them but you can't flash back to a froyo rom from a gingerbread rom unless you flash back to the old cwm recovery. So, yes there are ext4 roms for the g2 but they aren't making the phone perform marginally better than an ext3 rom.
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Hey guys,
I've had my Desire rooted for about 2 months now, and I've tried many different ROMs. At first, as I'm sure many of you did, I installed Cyanogenmod, but I didn't like the simplistic interface. Then I decided to install experimental stuff, like the Gingerbread ones, but I soon found out that they were still too laggy and buggy to be considered as a standard ROM.
Now, I've decided to re-install Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 because people love it and it's super fast. The problem is that I don't see the speed that everyone's talking about! My Quadrant score is lower than the Nexus 2.2 score and I cannot understand why. I even installed DeFroST but the results are still the same. The phone is too laggy, much slower than the Stock ROM with HTC Sense (which was pretty damn fast in my opinion). Does anyone knows why this happens? Does this have to do with the ext partition on my 16gb memory card or something?
Thanks in advance,
Louis.
Just how the rom is built. To be honest, anything above the score or 1100 we won't really notice much difference at all. When I've used it, I really tested the balls off it and my CPU score was making the difference. There are subtle differences between roms but we can't notice it so it doesn't matter. Anyway, benchmarks arn't really reliable, just a rough estimate.
I've installed my first ROM even some days ago and I'm getting 1160 on Leedroid 2.3d with a class 4 sd card. Speed is noticeably faster compared to the stock rom, it really is.
Maybe you could try another sd card ?
Don't know if it could help, I'm all new into this too.
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Do you fell laggy or slow? Quadrant doesn't show useful statistics... IMO Cyanogen is fast enough. But, if you want you can try MIUI, especially this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957291
It is really fast and battery saving
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If you want useful statistics use SmartBench from market, I have 877 and 1114.
SmartBench is better.
And for quadrant:
I have used a ROM which gave me extremly high scores (2200+), but in real life it was laggy and slow.
Now using a ROM which is around 1700, but is super-fast and no lags at all.
The problem is it does feel laggy and it's not a placebo effect because I didn't do the test and then thought that it felt laggy; it felt laggy so I ran the test for confirmation. Froyo 2.2 with Sense was much, much, much faster than a Vanilla CyanogenMod, and even though I never ran Quadrant on it I remember that it was much faster. That is simply not right. Maybe it takes some time for the ROM to "settle" or something?
My EVO has becoming slower. This was obvious through Quadrant, but also slightly through daily use. It was snappier on the first day.
I am rooted; I'm currently on the MikG v1.0 ROM with Gingerbread 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1/3.0 . I take care of my phone: I run a cache cleaner each day for internal storage as well as the SD card. My internal storage is 45% free (194MB) while my SD card is 58% free (4.35GB). My microSD card is a Sandisk 8GB Class 4.
Now, I don't blame any ROM for my low scores / slightly sluggishness. My first ROM was Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4, then switched to RLS5 within a week once it came out. i used to get scores fluctuating near 1300, even 1400 some times. I don't think I had ever gotten a 1200 back then. I've played around with other ROMs too, including Mikfroyo's ROMs, CM ROMs, and Virus's ROMs etc.. I always properly wipe data, cache, & dalvik cache as well. I've tried custom kernels, mostly being attached to Netarchy's kernels. However, on my currrent ROM I can't use his kernels because there is a specific kernel for this ROM that prevents Wi-Fi and Sprint WiMAX 4G from breaking / being unusable. But you see, the problem isn't even the kernel, because even when I was on a Netarchy kernel on Myn's ROM, I started getting scores nearing 1000 (I've even got around a ~950).
So what's to blame for these low scores? Just the phone becoming old? I'd prefer not having to use a new kernel or ROM, because I've had this problem with most ROMs regardless of kernel. Also, what can I do to speed up my phone?
Thank you so much in advance to anyone who provides help.
I'm pretty sure quadrant scores mean jack ****. That's what all the devs say, at least.
Mik's 2.1 sense w/ some 3.0 also runs considerably slower than stock if that's what you're noticing.
Probably just paranoia and your ROM.
Hazelfoot said:
I'm pretty sure quadrant scores mean jack ****. That's what all the devs say, at least.
Mik's 2.1 sense w/ some 3.0 also runs considerably slower than stock if that's what you're noticing.
Probably just paranoia and your ROM.
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That'd make sense, but I've actually gotten slightly better scores on this ROM.
Also, I started getting lower scores on Myn's ROM first - from 1200s-1300s to 900s-1100s.
EDIT: By the way, I've seen scores in 1700s. Does this just range from phone to phone? Makes me feel like my phone sucks comparatively, lol.
Your phone is like a computer. Sometimes, you just need to start over to clean everything up.
Mine got like that a few months ago, so I ran S-OFF, RUU, re-rooted, etc and started from stock. It made a big difference.
samah said:
My EVO has becoming slower. This was obvious through Quadrant, but also slightly through daily use. It was snappier on the first day.
I am rooted; I'm currently on the MikG v1.0 ROM with Gingerbread 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1/3.0 . I take care of my phone: I run a cache cleaner each day for internal storage as well as the SD card. My internal storage is 45% free (194MB) while my SD card is 58% free (4.35GB). My microSD card is a Sandisk 8GB Class 4.
Now, I don't blame any ROM for my low scores / slightly sluggishness. My first ROM was Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4, then switched to RLS5 within a week once it came out. i used to get scores fluctuating near 1300, even 1400 some times. I don't think I had ever gotten a 1200 back then. I've played around with other ROMs too, including Mikfroyo's ROMs, CM ROMs, and Virus's ROMs etc.. I always properly wipe data, cache, & dalvik cache as well. I've tried custom kernels, mostly being attached to Netarchy's kernels. However, on my currrent ROM I can't use his kernels because there is a specific kernel for this ROM that prevents Wi-Fi and Sprint WiMAX 4G from breaking / being unusable. But you see, the problem isn't even the kernel, because even when I was on a Netarchy kernel on Myn's ROM, I started getting scores nearing 1000 (I've even got around a ~950).
So what's to blame for these low scores? Just the phone becoming old? I'd prefer not having to use a new kernel or ROM, because I've had this problem with most ROMs regardless of kernel. Also, what can I do to speed up my phone?
Thank you so much in advance to anyone who provides help.
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HipKat said:
Your phone is like a computer. Sometimes, you just need to start over to clean everything up.
Mine got like that a few months ago, so I ran S-OFF, RUU, re-rooted, etc and started from stock. It made a big difference.
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Same thing that was happening to me!! But Im gonna re-root and see what happens
HipKat said:
Your phone is like a computer. Sometimes, you just need to start over to clean everything up.
Mine got like that a few months ago, so I ran S-OFF, RUU, re-rooted, etc and started from stock. It made a big difference.
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BTW how do u run S-OFF?
zeau2004 said:
BTW how do u run S-OFF?
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I think he meant S-On,RUU then Reroot
Sent from my Synergy Powered EVO
Yeah, my fault. The S-ON tool is for use when you used Unrevoked to root your phone. You can d/l it on the unrevoked website.
Flash it in recovery before you run RUU
I am finding out from using different roms and getting a feel and see of how fast or slow the actions on my phone has not does not always agree with quadrant...if you run quadrant multiple times you will get different results....not changing anything...so is that a indicator of how good or bad your phone is? Or could it be that quadrant is flawed to use as a gauge. I don't use quadrant anymore near the frequency I did it the past...I would flash a rom every other day it seemed like and over clocked..under clocked...smart ass/interactive/ etc...every setting under the sun to make it faster...smoother and so on just for a few more bars on quadrant or speedtest...ot fps...then I realized I was just wearing out my batteries and buttons and wasting time..quadrant is not even a speed test...it is really a judge at how the darn quadrant feels like the score it wants to give you. Maintenance of the phone is needed.but a few hundred points that could vary after hundreds of hours literally of trying to max out poerformance.....ask yourself...is it really worth it...that is what I now tell myself...
Since rooting a few months ago I have been using Starburst with Data2SD. It's brilliant, I have 1gb free for apps and even loading everything I want it's still got space free. Cheers DZ and Sibere Removes my one complaint about the HTC Desire.
Anyway, quite fancy some Gingerbread and also try out some of the Sense 3.0 stuff people are porting, had a go with Supernova but it's a bit slow compared to Starburst ( not a criticism as I know it's early in development ) so looking around at others ROM's Data2SD is not very popular.
A2SD+ still is in favour but I run out of space before getting all my apps on, Data++ needs me to S-OFF, and also looks more complicated to setup, mutiple partitions etc. Can't find a good explanation of Data2ext and Data2we as yet.
Just wondered why is Data2SD not so popular? Am i missing something?
Cheers
Scoop940 said:
Since rooting a few months ago I have been using Starburst with Data2SD. It's brilliant, I have 1gb free for apps and even loading everything I want it's still got space free. Cheers DZ and Sibere Removes my one complaint about the HTC Desire.
Anyway, quite fancy some Gingerbread and also try out some of the Sense 3.0 stuff people are porting, had a go with Supernova but it's a bit slow compared to Starburst ( not a criticism as I know it's early in development ) so looking around at others ROM's Data2SD is not very popular.
A2SD+ still is in favour but I run out of space before getting all my apps on, Data++ needs me to S-OFF, and also looks more complicated to setup, mutiple partitions etc. Can't find a good explanation of Data2ext and Data2we as yet.
Just wondered why is Data2SD not so popular? Am i missing something?
Cheers
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Am not sure on this also. Using data2sd is the number one thing, that make's my desire great, without it i'll be lost.
All this App2SD+ is not really that good, you still use all your internal, befor ext3 is used.
I love the fact I have 2GB internal space and not having to worry, about not enough space. Every RoM should have this Data2SD I think
I was a big fan of DATA2SD but it lacks wide compatibility with ROMs: now I'm more than satisfied with CM7 Hboot + Dalvik on sd-ext: got to have over 250 apps installed and still 50 MB in internal.
AFAIK:
- Speed: Most of the time internal memory is faster.
- Corruption: I read that Android does not unmount /data cleanly, so there is a chance of data corruption. Am i still right on this?
I haven't managed to get data2sd working on my phone yet but apps2sd+ is working nicely.
I don't need heaps installed on my phone but have a fair few apps that I want and it seems to be working ok with a apps2sd+ setup.
I have read mixed things about data2sd regarding corruption possible, and also confused about speed as I read that the sd can be faster (probably depending on class?) than internal, and also that internal is faster than sd - so I'm confused
but my phone is working ok at the moment!
SuperNova will probably work a lot better when the official release comes out for Gingerbread
My phone feels faster using Data2sd, and certainly the quadrant scores of 2000+ are much higher than the wife's stock Desire. As for corruption, yes I have, when I have pulled the battery for some reason. Not had a problem for months though.
Regular Nandroid and scheduled titanium backups cover that off anyway.
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My phone feels faster using Data2sd, and certainly the quadrant scores of 2000+ are much higher than the wife's stock Desire. As for corruption, yes I have, when I have pulled the battery for some reason. Not had a problem for months though.
Regular Nandroid and scheduled titanium backups cover that off anyway.
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You do know that these quadrant scores are fake, don't you? I'm quite happy with a2sd and cm7 hboot gingersense roms
I don't think that I would ever sacrifice my data to get more apps
Sent from my HTC Desire
I appreciate the quadrant scores aren't accurate as they change everytime I run it, but the phone feels faster and smoother.
Any links to the fake quadrant score stuff?
Cheers
I have been using data2sd for about one year, and never had data loss or even a single force close of an app.
My phone always runs very fast and smooth, cant say its faster than stock because I wasn't on stock long enough,but I did have lots of force close's on app2sd+ leedroid
I really should read more about evo's godmode before asking. But the way I understand it they partition part of the harddrive to basically another ram partition. Will the incredible ever see this feature since partitioning seems to have evaded us
I've been wondering the same thing. I thought it was a matter of repartitioning and changing file systems. I thought it could all be handled in side the updater-script file, prior to installing to rom. I played with kingdom and tried to see how it was done, but we need a real dev to bring it to the inc.
Thanks for clearing that up cvb. I was still thinking it was gonna revolutionize the dinc. I think neo just meant someone other than himself. We all know Joelz has skills
well
1. its buggy
2. force to use amon ra
3. not really much of a performance boost more quadrant boost than anything
That reminds me of ReadyBoost for Windows, where you can use your old flash drives or SD cards as RAM... It makes a huge difference in older machines & netbooks but not so much on the newer ones that have ballsacs.
Its an interesting theory though. It would be great for a 3.0 rom if anyone wanted to perfect it.
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1. its buggy
2. force to use amon ra
3. not really much of a performance boost more quadrant boost than anything
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Here's a question for you, since you seem to have a fairly extensive amount of experience with ROM's and the Dinc. What is, in your personal opinion, going to be my best option of customization, performance and please don't use words like MIUI, lol.
***EDIT*** I should've thought to include this info, but currently these are my stats
CM7 7.1.0-RC
Kernel-Incredikernel 2.6.38.8
Radio-2.15.00series
I've flopped between this and MIUI for about a month. Tried Synergy a while back, did like it a lot. Any ideas? Some I haven't heard of ? Thanks.
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!
There's a godmode version of synergy that I've been trying to find info on what exactly it does, but I didn't find much. So godmode it just supposed to be a higher performance version of some mod due to an added swap partition and some other speed tweaks?
I've been running a ROM, Bugless Beast, but its started causing trouble lately. I'm thinking of reverting to CM7.2 and was wondering if anyone had good thoughts to improve performance. I'm thinking I may try out the mod EXT4All and perhaps even the script V6 Supercharger. Anyone had good results with these? Would switching to Incredikernel help also? Just figuring out what all I could do before breaking down and simply buying a new phone.... Thanks in advance! Hope someone has been successful in maximizing performance from this device.
just a suggestion but let me just give a plus 1 for updating to the new Tiny CM10.1 rom. it;s really breathed new life into my device. while not everything works perfectly, it is has been pretty stable for me. i have to do without a working video camera and a few other minor bugs but overall it;s been positive.
maybe it;s an illusion but what i find surprising is how long my battery lasts in standby.
plus since going this route, i haven;t had a 2am reboot.
I also have the ext4 mod installed to fix the low 149 mb application space issue(a must do for any Dinc owner as this stupid limit is about the equivalent of the old dos 640k memory limitation)-supposedly since the file system is ext4, its supposed to run things faster as well-i don;t know how to test that.
tekweezle said:
just a suggestion but let me just give a plus 1 for updating to the new Tiny CM10.1 rom. it;s really breathed new life into my device. while not everything works perfectly, it is has been pretty stable for me. i have to do without a working video camera and a few other minor bugs but overall it;s been positive.
maybe it;s an illusion but what i find surprising is how long my battery lasts in standby.
plus since going this route, i haven;t had a 2am reboot.
I also have the ext4 mod installed to fix the low 149 mb application space issue(a must do for any Dinc owner as this stupid limit is about the equivalent of the old dos 640k memory limitation)-supposedly since the file system is ext4, its supposed to run things faster as well-i don;t know how to test that.
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tiny's cm 10 (not 10.1) rom with ext4 is just about perfect, if you want something slightly more stable