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Advice needed

Hi all.
I bought my HTC Desire sometime in May. I got it from someone that brought it from UK (Orange branded).
3 months later it started showing the signs of random reboot (the well known issue), and lately they have started happening daily. What's even worse, after 1-2 random reboots, the device sticks itself at the white HTC bootscreen and does nothing. No matter how long I leave it without battery the only solution I have found to bring my device back to life is:
1. Install a generic RUU (through PB99IMG.zip)
since I need/have non-generic ROM, I continue:
2. root it with unrevoked
3. install rom manager from market
4. restore the nandroid backup.
I do this all the time, in the beginning I used to do it ~weekly, lately I do it daily. This is getting worse and worse.
Anyway, let's get to the fun part.
I have decided to buy a new one, since I don't have a warranty for this one. I am in doubt a bit, that is why I decided to ask the community. I wonder about the future support from HTC for Desire, the knowledge that I will get a device with SLCD is killing me (seeing how better is AMOLED), etc... So what do you think, should I get a new Desire, should I get another device, or should I wait for something better soon?
Thanks all.

Anyone?

sell as faulty on eBay (should get about £200)
buy something newer, not saying that the Desire is bad (cos itsw NOT!) but technology moves on quickly so getting a newer device will last longer (as in you will appreciate it a lot longer)
would recommed the Desire Z or the Desire HD, however a lot more expensive...

Touch Screen Response Problems

Hello.
I have some issues with my three day old mobile which I already changed, because my previews Desire which I bought two weeks ago had dead pixel (and this 2nd one has also a green bright pixel... but I don't bother to change it one more time because of this small error - I have to live with it - and it is a little frustrating having brand new but broken hardware).
Now my real issue... from time to time the screens are moving itself and I haven't control anymore. I don't know how to explain it.. but imagine you are dragging your home-screens continuous and in small distances really fast... it flickers... mmmh.
Is my touch screen broken or is it a software problem or.. or.. I really don't know.
I turned the device several times off but it does not really help, when I reboot the problem occurs sometimes again. And if so, I can hardly unlock the screen, because the response is so bad. Then I send it to sleep... try again, sleep, try again... sleep.. forget about it and later it is working again.
It is happening quite often.. 3-4 times this morning and in the afternoon I turned the device off completely. Now I turned it on again, and the problem occured two more times but now it's back to normal again. So ... haha... this is weird, probably I'm not using my HTC Desire right?
Since the problem comes sporadic I don't know how I should reproduce it and present a probably working device as broken to the customer service.
Any ideas? What could be a problem?
And do you have pixel errors on your Desire? I had several devices in the past (mobiles, laptop display, desktop display and so on) but never ever any pixel errors. I didn't even saw any on other devices as well. Now I had them on two HTC's in a row ...

Well,it had happened to my device two times when,after training,I tried to use it with sweaty hands.Probably sweat stayed on the screen causing false touches because the screen is so responsive.Try to reproduce it that way.If it's not that,then most probably you'll have to change to a new one again.And as for the screen problem,however small it may be you are entitled to ask for a new one as it is a factory problem and is inexcusable for a high-end 500 euro phone.

hello again..
I have still my "broken" Desire. Probably I will change it in the next days.
I made a short (****ty) video of frustration today, because it ended up not being able to response a call... (turn off the sound of the youtube-clips )
Then I shortly decided to buy a cheap ZTE Blade, but it turned out, that this device will be even more broken than my HTC Desire, which you see here:
this can't be random... three devices, and all were broken.
simply impressive.

all htc devices I've ever had have been perfect including a desire imo you should return it.
I've had bad luck with other tech before sure its annoying but all companies have dodgy units that make it through qc because they don't test every one just a random sample from each batch
What desire is it a world wide model or is it a branded one with telco software? Imo get the ruu and re flash it could be software rule that out first
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Wow, you have some bad luck! Broken any mirrors recently?
Definitely looks like a hardware fault, but the Desire in your second video looks fine. Is that the broken unit?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

[Q] Desire HD - Motherboard failure

Hello,
I have a HTC Desire HD that has just died on me, it just stopped detecting the SIM car. Everything else works just fine.
Gave it to HTC service here in India and they gave me a quote of 13000 INR ($260) to replace it. Since its out of warranty (15 days over) I'll have to bear the expense.
Now I got this phone for 25000 INR($500) it makes no sense to go for this replacement. Now my dilema here is what more can I do with this phone besides using it as a glorifed paper weight
I doubt root it would solve this issue. But would love to hear from you.
Kind regards

I'd just went out of the similar problem. One day my DHD turn off and... That's all ! It just turn of and never came back. I'd to send it to HTC support, they return it to me saying something like "we changed the motherboard".
Now I think "Whatdafuck is this phone whitch can die one day without any aparent reason !!". At it's next death I'll get a Motorola.

zorglube said:
I'd just went out of the similar problem. One day my DHD turn off and... That's all ! It just turn of and never came back. I'd to send it to HTC support, they return it to me saying something like "we changed the motherboard".
Now I think "Whatdafuck is this phone whitch can die one day without any aparent reason !!". At it's next death I'll get a Motorola.
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Atleast you were lucky that you device was under warranty. I am well and truly screwed.
cheers

Personally, I'd get it repaired, since you could easily get another years' use out of it (more, but other devices will start to make it look old).
That would then work out at $20/month, compared to say $40 ($500/12 months) for a new phone, even via an operator's subsidy.
I'd also let HTC do it so that they can respond directly, should anything go wrong.

Sorry I saw you replied.
If you pay the HTC support can repair your phone.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA

I would try to buy very cheap non working phone with broken digitizer or similar - many people (at least in europe) sell their phones when they are broken and get new ones. And I would change the mainboard myself. its not that difficult. Ive done it with my old htc topaz...

Suffering at the hands of HTC
Last week, my 1.5 years old Desire 816 was working absolutely flawlessly. 5 seconds later, I pick it up and it is dead! :crying:
The HTC Service Center guys are asking for Rs. 9,700 for changing the Motherboard and I am like WT*. I can buy a new phone at that price. A bit of research and find out that Motherboard issues are very common in HTC. This surely was my last HTC phone.
Now I have 2 questions:
1. Is there any way I can get this phone repaired in the open market?
2. I was using CDMA as my primary number. I am not finding any other reputed manufacturer who has CDMA smartphones. I am not willing to ditch CDMA as of now. Any suggestions for a good smartphone that is not HTC?

HTC Desire - Bricked? Constant Buzz.

Hi,
I had Sandvold's ICS 0.16 installed and disabled vibration when ring and my Desire reset...
Now, all it does is sit there with a black screen buzzing..
Battery out reset, removed sdcard, etc..
I've tried getting into recovery mode via power+back & power+voldn, etc.
No joy at all.
PC cannot see the phone when plugged in via USB (tried running RUU, that couldn't see it).
My main questions:
Is there any method available to recover from this? I've tried what I can (understand) but obviously no luck..
The phone's under warranty.. but guess this will be void as I'm s-off, etc etc? Will HTC be able to detect this?

See the link in my signature.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders

Thanks.. guess you meant the last link 'How the HTC works.."
If so. are you implying that my radio has corrupted and so it's shagged (or the bootloader's knackered... how could that happen?)
How can I tell which of those scenarios is the one I've got? Hpw do I know it the radio hast started?
If it is the radio that's knackered, I flashed that over a week ago and the mobiles been power-cycled many times in that period...
Or am I missing the point here?
I have another working Desire, could that help me in anyway to get the broken Desire to work....?

Oh well, with the lack of responses I guess the phone's bricked :crying:
Main question I have is if it's sent back to HTC, are they likely to fix it under warranty in its current state?
Added to this, anyone know what I did wrong, so I don't do it with my other Desire.

kevcal said:
Oh well, with the lack of responses I guess the phone's bricked :crying:
Main question I have is if it's sent back to HTC, are they likely to fix it under warranty in its current state?
Added to this, anyone know what I did wrong, so I don't do it with my other Desire.
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As I could see many users are complaining for getting a permanenr brick after installing ICS roms, and most of them after Sandvold one. Just take a look at bricked threads in the past month or so. Am I right?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders

Hadn't realised that - would have avoided the ICS route if I had.
Was happy with SuperNova until I thought Sandvold's ICS was stable
Still can't figure what actually went wrong.

It may be that it's not about rom, but you never know.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders

Well sending it off to HTC, hoping they'll fix it under warranty........:fingers-crossed:
THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT APPLY IF THE DEFECT WAS CAUSED THROUGH ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
a) the Product serial number, the accessory date code the IMEI number, water indicator or the warranty seal has been
removed, erased, defaced, altered or is illegible; or
b) deterioration of the Product due to normal wear and tear; or
c) use other than in accordance with the user manual, rough handling, exposure to moisture, dampness or extreme thermal
or environmental conditions or a rapid change in such conditions, corrosion, oxidation, unauthorized modifications
or connections, unauthorized opening or repair, repair by use of unauthorized spare parts, accidents, forces of nature, or
other actions beyond the reasonable control of HTC (including but not limited to deficiencies in consumable parts) unless
the defect was caused directly by defects in materials or workmanship. This Limited Warranty does not cover physical
damage to the surface of the Product including but not limited to cracks or scratches on the LCD screen or camera lens; or
d) the defects caused by the fact that the battery has been short-circuited or by the fact that the seals of the battery
enclosure or the cells are broken or show evidence of tampering or by the fact that the battery has been used in
equipment other than those for which it has been specified; or
e) the defect was caused by a defective function of the cellular network or other system; or
f) the Product software needs to be upgraded due to changes in cellular network parameters; or
g) the defect was caused by the fact that the Product was used with or connected to an accessory not approved or provided
by HTC or used in other than its intended use and where it can be shown by HTC that such defect is not the fault of the
Product itself.
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kevcal said:
Well sending it off to HTC, hoping they'll fix it under warranty........:fingers-crossed:
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g) the defect was caused by the fact that the Product was used with or connected to an accessory not approved or provided
by HTC or used in other than its intended use and where it can be shown by HTC that such defect is not the fault of the
Product itself.
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Reading that makes me think they won't since rooting your phone and installing custom roms is against the intended use by HTC and in this case it really wouldn't be their fault. Having said that, if you contact them and they say they will then by all means get it fixed and I hope it turns out well for you

pawan1993 said:
Reading that makes me think they won't since rooting your phone and installing custom roms is against the intended use by HTC and in this case it really wouldn't be their fault. Having said that, if you contact them and they say they will then by all means get it fixed and I hope it turns out well for you
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"used with or connected to an accessory"..
Doesn't sound like anything to do with roms to me... just unsupported hardware..?
Ah , reading the next bit I see what you mean:
"used in other than its intended use"... well I used it as a phone ...

Act dumb @ htc shop
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Exactly.

Mobile's been returned Hopefully repaired(!) - will find out when I get home..!
Still wish I knew what I did though that caused the brick - bit apprehensive about playing around with it now!
Bricks are relatively rare though I guess.
Looks to me that Radio was corrupted - ie no charging light, but it did constantly buzz...
I programmed the radio over a week before it failed.. could it have flashed badly and setting Sandvold's ICS to 'not buzz when ringing' accessed something bad in the radio ROM and caused it to corrupt??
This doesn't sound likely...?
Next question is (bearing in mind I'm gonna avoid Sandvold's ICS just in case it was that!), what do I go for.
Questions I have...
I guess for a fully functioning mobile, the only option is to stick with GB..?
Do I need to go S-OFF any more to install ROMs?
Do I need a custom HBOOT any more?
Kev

kevcal said:
Questions I have...
I guess for a fully functioning mobile, the only option is to stick with GB..?
Do I need to go S-OFF any more to install ROMs?
Do I need a custom HBOOT any more?
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1. based on your second and third questions, yes, stick with GB. 'fully functioning' definition varies between users, but the fact that the JB and ICS roms have Alpha/BETA status should tell you what you need to know. the choice is still yours though!
2. not strictly necessary, but is much more useful if things go wrong. so use revolutionary to s-off
3. if you're asking this question i wonder whether you know what the custom hboots are? you flash a custom hboot depending on the rom's system size. should be in the first post of each rom, if not search the thread for 'hboot'...strictly speaking you don't necessarily need a custom hboot, but most of the time you'll run out of space much quicker if you don't. once you understand what the hboot partition tables are it will make sense . you need s-off to change hboot, so this pretty much answers question 2.

Okay will stick with GB for now.. then again the JB roms are looking better all the time...
Okay will S-OFF again.. just wondered if it could have had any bearing on why my mobile bricked.
You're right - not really sure what a custom Hboot is.. it allocates different sized partitions for specific roms then?
Will have a read to try to understand things a bit more.
Thanks for clarification or at least putting me on the road to clarification(!)

kevcal said:
not really sure what a custom Hboot is.. it allocates different sized partitions for specific roms then?
Will have a read to try to understand things a bit more
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http://alpharev.nl/
Sent from my HTC Desire

Typical - phone worked for 24 hours...
Now, doesn't power on.. screen stays black - no vibrate when I push power button.
Green led turns on when plugged into usb, when I press the power button the green led goes off, but screen still black - nothing happening.
Power button with 'back' or 'vol-down' depressed does nothing, black screen only.
Any ideas, or do I return it (again).
This will be the 4th time - will they be amenable to giving me a replacement do you think?

Well mobile back from HTC a second time; ran fine for a couple of days, so installed Supernova and all running fine now.
Gone S-OFF but left flashing radio alone - seems to work with 5.11.05.27 fine.
So that's it, will avoid ICS, etc just in case, but have no idea whether that's why the phone got screwed...

Mmm.. have now installed Mildwild with no problems..
Really think it was something to do with Sandvold'd ICS release, but have no way of knowing..!

HTC ONE X Touch or softver

Hey evryone ... first soz , for my bad english , and second i'm here to ask you smth ...
I have a HTC ONE X i got from friend.. and now my touch work all , but mid dont respond... maybe cuz its bad put upadate ... cuz its 4.2.2 here... and main of this phone its 4.1..2 , i will post my picture and u will se... and PLS HELP : / and sorry for english , if u dont understend any of worlds , i will use google tran...

mariorazer said:
Hey evryone ... first soz , for my bad english , and second i'm here to ask you smth ...
I have a HTC ONE X i got from friend.. and now my touch work all , but mid dont respond... maybe cuz its bad put upadate ... cuz its 4.2.2 here... and main of this phone its 4.1..2 , i will post my picture and u will se... and PLS HELP : / and sorry for english , if u dont understend any of worlds , i will use google tran...
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Just so you know, HTC is a garbage company that creates good looking phones but which appear durable only on the outside.
I had an One S and after 2 months of usage The touchscreen "gave birth" of a dead spot right in the middle. It was a 1cm thick vertical line. So the phone became useless.I spend a ton of money on an "original" display+glass+digitizer (an assembly) cause I didn't choose a warranty when I bought the device, cause it was cheaper that way. after 1 month and a half month, a dead spot appeared on the new screen. This time it was a horizontal line that gave me a hard time again. I donnated the phone to some guy. I decided to buy a new HTC, but this time a ONE X. After 4 months another dead spot appeared on the touchscreen and again that area was unresponsive. I decided not to send it into warranty cause it was already enough and it's not worth it, so I sold it at a considerably lower price because of that problem. The Ironic thing is that I always tooks so much care of both devices and it still broke. If you keep using HTC, you'll only shorten your life.
I'm now a bit short on money and I'm using a pathetic Galaxy Ace 2. If you wanted right now to exchange a brand new ONE X with my Ace 2, I wouldn't make the exchange and I'd stick with the phone I have right now. Or I'd make the exchange only to sell the HTC, cause it's more expensive than the Ace 2 and after that I'd buy a Nexus 4 or a Galaxy S3, with the money I'd get from the HTC. That's how bad I hate HTC. What seems to be awesome, it's actually something that breaks with the slightest touch. Samsung, which everytime comes with the same hideous design every year, is 10 times more durable than an HTC, and also is a lot easier to root and downgrade if something goes wrong during some process.
So, my personal opinion, try to choose anything else but HTC. Otherwise you're gonna experience all sorts of problems with it even if you decide to replace the screen. When you fix a problem, another one will come out and make you be stressed. IT'S NOT WORTH IT, believe me.

Every one has there personal views of the devices they use.. I've had my One X from since it came out and it has never given me trouble.. I've never came across with the issues you are claiming.. neither my friends that use them. I have to upgrade to a new phone eventually but not because of the phone dying, but because it's just natural to upgrade to a newer better phone. I've used sammies before but have never ever come close to my comparison with the One X. I love HTC products and that remains no matter what..to the OP, your problem seems can be solved with a new screen..

How is that practical advice...uncalled for. Try a reverting phone to stock, if that doesn't help then it is a hardware fault and start looking into repair.
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