Android music player rips off Zune? - Windows Phone 7 General

or WP7.
So looking at this video from mobile tech world they walk through the new music player. Before watching look out for the pivot controls at the top of the UI that also cuts off words just like WP7. The design that so many said was stupid. Not only that but if I'm not mistaken they are also showing the artist in the background but it's to blurry to be sure. Then there is also the now playing screen that looks so similar to zunes now playing screen.
I wouldn't normally care but in this instance it bothers me because of all the bashing MS gets for the UI when it's easily the best and now there are elements being used for android after so many said things about the UI. I'm sure all the android fans will come to love their new stock music player and all of a sudden words being cut off is no longer a "problem".
Here's the vid. can't post links but this is what you need.
youtube.com/watch?v=SZGw8TxCtNg

slow android gallery + edits for music == new android music player
imho its a mess

Not really a rip of Zune UI because they had a similar style with their Gallery app. I can see the comparisons though.

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The HTC HD7 makes a fine Zune

Got the Zune software installed and my music transferred to my HD7 and am pleased the sound quality with my Shure SE530s is quite good. For lack of common smartphone features, it doesn't lack as a Zune music player. The UI is snappier and swifter than the dedicated Zunes, too.
EDIT- A feature that I encountered by accident is the volume button bringing up the mini-player controls in any screen. Very convenient when needing to tap pause or skip.
Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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air23cpt said:
Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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Nah, not on this device. But I have had that issue with dedicated Zune players in the past. I usually solved it by erasing the whole player and then it would show properly. Don't know what I would do on this fancy phone if that happened with it. Don't want to erase the data or other smartphone related stuff.
air23cpt said:
Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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you shouldn't have a prob you should be able to see how much mem you have when its plugged in, plus the hd7 has upgradable micro SD canrlt wait till Xmas
It does make for a great ZUNE PLAYER. One of the reasons why I got couldn't wait for the WP7 Phones. I am also glad the GLOBAL market gets to experience this officially. It it so much better than the ITUNEs and IPOD. Graphically it is top notch.
I signed up for the year for $149.99 which gives me two free months which in essence pays for itself with the 10 songs per month.
I also found out about the volume rocker activating the player. Very nice feature.
The sound quality out of my earphones is much louder than my EVO which is a great thing and very clear. I have several sets of earphones and they all sound great. I hated that my EVO was not very loud even with the DSP manager compared to my IPHONE or IPOD TOUCH( Ebay time ).
Have you guys tried out Shazam for WP7? It's so much better than for IPHONE and ANDROID. Nice Zune link at the bottom.
So far the APPS that I use most blows away the ANDROID or the IPHONE versions. Usually its not as good initially than the IPHONE. Two exceptions - Twitter and Facebook. They could use some tweaks
Can't wait for the Dell Venue Pro!
mrmomoman said:
It does make for a great ZUNE PLAYER. One of the reasons why I got couldn't wait for the WP7 Phones. I am also glad the GLOBAL market gets to experience this officially. It it so much better than the ITUNEs and IPOD. Graphically it is top notch.
I signed up for the year for $149.99 which gives me two free months which in essence pays for itself with the 10 songs per month.
I also found out about the volume rocker activating the player. Very nice feature.
The sound quality out of my earphones is much louder than my EVO which is a great thing and very clear. I have several sets of earphones and they all sound great. I hated that my EVO was not very loud even with the DSP manager compared to my IPHONE or IPOD TOUCH( Ebay time ).
Have you guys tried out Shazam for WP7? It's so much better than for IPHONE and ANDROID. Nice Zune link at the bottom.
So far the APPS that I use most blows away the ANDROID or the IPHONE versions. Usually its not as good initially than the IPHONE. Two exceptions - Twitter and Facebook. They could use some tweaks
Can't wait for the Dell Venue Pro!
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I have the exact same sentiment. Though this Facebook app is way better than the WinMo 6.5 version, it isn't quite to the convenience of the Android version.
MartyLK said:
I have the exact same sentiment. Though this Facebook app is way better than the WinMo 6.5 version, it isn't quite to the convenience of the Android version.
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You would think as integrated as they are with Facebook that we should have the premium version of them all. I am sure the next update will do this. Definately needs push notification as integrated as it is with WP7. They need to also provide better notifications alerts. I give Android that prop. The persistent state of notifications until you clear them or read the email or message is nice. I know the numbered visual cue in the tile is nice but you have to look at them to know that they have them. That is why they remain the theme color so you can see them better
Maybe if I put them up top I might see them better haha
Not if you need GAPLESS PLAYBACK it doesn't.
Seriously, it's like 2005 all over again.
I've got 200 or so live/concert/dj mix albums that I now can't listen to. A massive balls up by MS, and something that Apple got spot on with iPod/iPhone.
DaveyBoy72 said:
Not if you need GAPLESS PLAYBACK it doesn't.
Seriously, it's like 2005 all over again.
I've got 200 or so live/concert/dj mix albums that I now can't listen to. A massive balls up by MS, and something that Apple got spot on with iPod/iPhone.
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Then go pay more with a amazon/itunes so we can stop dealimg with ur qq.
Feel free to take the phone back too.
You obviously have never had a dubscription music service in 2005, to make such a baseless comparison.
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DaveyBoy72 said:
Not if you need GAPLESS PLAYBACK it doesn't.
Seriously, it's like 2005 all over again.
I've got 200 or so live/concert/dj mix albums that I now can't listen to. A massive balls up by MS, and something that Apple got spot on with iPod/iPhone.
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I really have never understood the compulsion for gapless playback. But maybe it's a hip-hop, rap or heavy metal thing, I don't know. My music of choice is Jazz, Meditation & Healing, New Age, piano, classic rock and alternative (Coldplay type). None of these genres are what could be considered frantic type music that requires a non-stop playback. These are more inline with relaxing moods than frantic. And because of this I see no problem with the lack of gapless in WP7/Zune.
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For lack of common smartphone features, it doesn't lack as a Zune music player.
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oh, please do name some of these common smartphone features it lacks. multitasking and copy & paste? lol
MartyLK said:
I really have never understood the compulsion for gapless playback. But maybe it's a hip-hop, rap or heavy metal thing, I don't know. My music of choice is Jazz, Meditation & Healing, New Age, piano, classic rock and alternative (Coldplay type). None of these genres are what could be considered frantic type music that requires a non-stop playback. These are more inline with relaxing moods than frantic. And because of this I see no problem with the lack of gapless in WP7/Zune.
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I listen to to all genres you listed: hip-hop, rock, jazz, lounge, eletronic, etc. If you're listening to jazz you most undoubtedly have one or a few live jazz albums which NEED gapless playback. This is pretty disturbing actually.
1. I've still got my iPhone 3G S, but fancied a change and was hoping the HD7 was going to be the replacement.
2. The phone will be going back. Not something I want to do, but until a few things* are ironed out, it's the sensible option. (* See my HD7 'review').
3. No idea what Dubscription is/was. iTunes only went gapless in 2006, hence my '2005' comment. My comparison is between WP7 Zune and iTunes. Also, not sure where you're coming from with the Amazon/iTunes thing. I never buy music online, so the point is moot.
4. Concerts, classical (which I admittedly don't listen to), Pink Floyd, continuous mixes, albums like 'Love' by The Beatles and Soulwax by 2manyDJs. There are a lot of gapless albums out there. It's not just a particular genre. Check out the 'Chilled' series my Ministry of Sound or The K&D sessions for something gapless and more downtempo.
air23cpt said:
Cool my girl just got an HD7 and when she's trying to put all her music it keeps saying not enough memory....its only 4gigs of music did you have any problems putting music on your phone.
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Have you looked in the settings on Zune? There's an option to reserve a percentage of the phone space. That restricts Zune's ability to fill your device up in case it means you don't have any space left to install applications, receive data etc.
After suggestions about different encoders and ID3 tags, I've carried out some different file tests, to see if it made a difference. These are the formats I tried, all ripped from an original CD (DJ mix gapless):
Ripped using iTunes - M4A (AAC), MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v1.0, MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v2.4.
Ripped using Max - MP3, M4A.
I also tried some downloaded music that I've no idea what encoder was used.
After trying the 5 different file types and the other music, there is no gapless playback whatsoever.
It seems the Zune component on WP7 just doesn't support it. Whether an update will include gapless, I've no idea, but here's hoping.
DaveyBoy72 said:
After suggestions about different encoders and ID3 tags, I've carried out some different file tests, to see if it made a difference. These are the formats I tried, all ripped from an original CD (DJ mix gapless):
Ripped using iTunes - M4A (AAC), MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v1.0, MP3 with ID3 tags changed to v2.4.
Ripped using Max - MP3, M4A.
I also tried some downloaded music that I've no idea what encoder was used.
After trying the 5 different file types and the other music, there is no gapless playback whatsoever.
It seems the Zune component on WP7 just doesn't support it. Whether an update will include gapless, I've no idea, but here's hoping.
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Are you using DRM music? Gapless is broken with DRM for Zune HD and I assume WP7 as well...for non DRM gapless works perfect on my zune HD(don't have a WP7 yet)...I'm sure it's just a matter of time to get that fixed if it's not working on wp7...
I can't see how anyone could compare the zune experience to the ios music experience...apple has not done anything with their media playback since the iphone was released...the zune is a far better media player
Yeah, I read about the Zune HD/DRM thing. All of my music is DRM-free and I don't have any paid downloads. Also, the music I tried tonight was taken straight from a CD.
I think Apple got more right to start with, so they've not had to update the iPod component in iOS. Gapless (obviously), auto-levelling (Sound Check) and search are all present on iOS, but lacking on WP7 so far. The UI is very nice though and it flows along well. Sound quality on my HD7 is a definite step up from my iPhone too. This is using the same Denon earbuds of course.
As a complete Zune virgin, how often are the updates?
gaps are annoying to me on live albums, but not show stoppers, hopefully they fix it.
normally I'm on shuffle all though, so it is a low priority issue for me
Gen 1 Zune feedback on updates
DaveyBoy72 said:
Yeah, I read about the Zune HD/DRM thing. All of my music is DRM-free and I don't have any paid downloads. Also, the music I tried tonight was taken straight from a CD.
I think Apple got more right to start with, so they've not had to update the iPod component in iOS. Gapless (obviously), auto-levelling (Sound Check) and search are all present on iOS, but lacking on WP7 so far. The UI is very nice though and it flows along well. Sound quality on my HD7 is a definite step up from my iPhone too. This is using the same Denon earbuds of course.
As a complete Zune virgin, how often are the updates?
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I have had a Generation 1 Zune since they came out and updates come out just about as often as the Zune Windows desktop software- which is maybe once or twice a year. I've been very happy about updates for the Zune, but I imagine WP7 phone updates may be tied to the carrier (AT&T, T-Mo) and not the Zune desktop software itself.
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I have had a Generation 1 Zune since they came out and updates come out just about as often as the Zune Windows desktop software- which is maybe once or twice a year. I've been very happy about updates for the Zune, but I imagine WP7 phone updates may be tied to the carrier (AT&T, T-Mo) and not the Zune desktop software itself.
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I know it is an old thread, but MS stated it wants to do away from the carriers holding up the software updates, you shall see when the first batch of updates hits the platform.

[Q] good alternative to the video player?

Hi,
i was wondering if anybody knows a good alternative to the default video player on the desire HD.
I'm not expecting Dolby/SRS support since no player except for the default player seems to have that but are there any that apart from showing a name can play continuously (start at a selected video and just keep going) or better yet can play continuously wile shuffling through the available video's?
i have about 140 music video's on my desire HD and it's just annoying to have to select the next one every time and well... no shuffle.
real player seemed promising since u can just jump to the next video manually before the one your watching ends but that feature doesn't seem to work... at least not yet.
i did check google first but all i got was topic's from 2008...
-anubis
I have tried several to date and have found them all to be disappointing to be frank. They may or may not remember the position in the video you are watching or they distort the screen or they have a clunky interface.
I've been using Rock player for the last few days and it is guilty of all three listed above.
I would be interested to hear of something that delivers:
Video position memory
Multiple format support
Sensible zoom/re-size modes
Sleek interface
I have bneen using vplayer and it seems quite nice, can't comment on the issued mentioned above but I shall do some research and get back to you.
I'm using vplayer beta 4, changed to pay version after this and only time limited trial for b5 forwards. Works great plays all formats resizes well to screen and saves location when file stopped. Had much more consistent results than with rockplayer and streams fine with quick seeking from twonky media server without needing to transcode.
i tried vplayer,
i loved the gesture's for the player, but was not to fond of the file browser and it cant play next video
but i also found mvideo player,
which has a excellent browser (just looks a bit more... modern) has good gesture's (still kind of prefer vplayer's) but can play the next video after the current one ends
not perfect but a lot better then the default.. apart from the no dolby (it makes a HUGE difference on my in-ear headphone's) but the pro's outweigh the con's so it's my new video player until the default one is worth a damn.
ow and it also has excellent scaling.

Galaxy 3 like Video app??

Have you guys seen the youtube of Samsung Galaxy 3....Man I love the video player capability of minimizing while you can still type sms while watching the movie. I think it's an awesome idea. Is there any video app can do that?? Just cant believe HTC have not even include any video app other than the CRAPPY useless HTC watch.
There you go my friend
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tickit&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
You can use different skins for the player too - mac one looks very polished.
Also blow your mates away by having two videos open at the same time whilst browsing the net - blinkin awesome
wolverine73 said:
There you go my friend
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tickit&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
You can use different skins for the player too - mac one looks very polished.
Also blow your mates away by having two videos open at the same time whilst browsing the net - blinkin awesome
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Nice.....but really bad cant make it full screen again???? you can only resize but cant make it full screen again. Think the dev should implement this feature.
Also very much a gimmick to me. Like Facetime. Or Siri. Will rarely ever be used outside of the 1st week/month, trust me
When I was watching unpacking galaxy then been thinking what a stupid idea is a watch movie and in the same moment writing sms, now I see people like that.
That seems so pointless and gimmicky. All touchscreen apps (every app you would download/use) is designed to use the entire screen. With a small video playing on the screen you are going to blocking at least SOME elements of the UI, in many cases rendering the app of the moment useless.
The S3 is a vomitted-up mix of software gimmicks and bad industrial design. The US versions are nothing more than a S2 with an LTE radio. Thanks, but no thanks.

video player

What player are people using successfully on the Swift?
I'm looking at VLC player, but wondered if anyone has any better ideas?
well am now running VLC, and I love it.
It's a pity that I can't just go into Gallery and play it from there and VLC kicks in and takes over, but I like the way you can go into VLC and choose the source from a file list like Windows Explorer (it even tells you how many files/subfolders are in the file at a glance). quality and sound are great, tested it on 1st episode of Roseanne series 6 and nothing jumps out as "ohhhhhh ****"
I'm only an occasional user of vids on a phone, so this suits me perfectly. Oh and it has an equaliser aswell, nice clean gui, and it's orange so sort of ties in with the Wiley colours

Question Need a music player which plays music with the same rhythm

About 10 years ago, Samsung presented Touchwiz which had an awsome Music Player with many features.
One of the features that I liked most was the "Music Square".
Music square was a part of the music player that came with Touchwiz.
It shows 4 sides: Joyfull, Exciting, Passionate and Calm
And It was able to recognise rhythm of the song and put it on the right place among sides, beside, it would allow you to listen to the song that have a same rhythm.
For those who can't remeber, this video shows you the user interface of the music player.
(2:42)
So, here in the 2022, I really need a music player that could do the same thing for me.
I don't even know what to search!
Anyone has an idea or know any app that contains such music square thing?

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