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Hello there xda-devs!!
I own an htc desire A8181 (amoled i think) and i fell into the temptation to root it. The problem is that i updated OTA into 2.2 froyo and my hboot now is 0.93.00001 on which the unrevoked method wont work (at leat for me it did not, as it showed : "validation error: backup cid is missing" ). I have installed the modified drivers and my desire is unbranded. I was hoping to find a method to root without losing any data or settings and since everyone showed as an alternative hboot downgrade and custom rom, so i thought " what if i downgraded hboot but i did not flash a new rom ", but the question is "is it possible?"
As you may have figured out, i dont know much about rooting/flashing etc, although i have some experience from flashing kaiser and some others, but i am willing to learn. If anyone could give me a hint/link/suggestion or solution to my problem it would be gratefully appreciated
PS thank you in advance and sorry for my english
dexter93 said:
Hello there xda-devs!!
I own an htc desire A8181 (amoled i think) and i fell into the temptation to root it. The problem is that i updated OTA into 2.2 froyo and my hboot now is 0.93.00001 on which the unrevoked method wont work (at leat for me it did not, as it showed : "validation error: backup cid is missing" ). I have installed the modified drivers and my desire is unbranded. I was hoping to find a method to root without losing any data or settings and since everyone showed as an alternative hboot downgrade and custom rom, so i thought " what if i downgraded hboot but i did not flash a new rom ", but the question is "is it possible?"
As you may have figured out, i dont know much about rooting/flashing etc, although i have some experience from flashing kaiser and some others, but i am willing to learn. If anyone could give me a hint/link/suggestion or solution to my problem it would be gratefully appreciated
PS thank you in advance and sorry for my english
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AFAIK, the latest unrevoked works fine with the 0.93.00001 - quite sure I read this in one of the threads.
Read these links for detailed info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
That's where I started my reading..
Cheers!
never mind.
cthdesire said:
AFAIK, the latest unrevoked works fine with the 0.93.00001 - quite sure I read this in one of the threads.
Read these links for detailed info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
That's where I started my reading..
Cheers!
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Thanks for the quick response! Actually these posts were the first that i read when i first thought of rooting and i believe that i have correctly followed the steps of the how to for the unrevoked (version 3.22 straight from the unrevoked site) and i tried twice on different computers(both running win xp home x86). As for the alternatives on benko's tut, none of them supports OTA 2.2 froyo...
After thought and some reading, I decided that I will downgrade to 2.1, root using unrevoked and then flash to prerooted froyo. Actually, since the point is not to lose settings or data, does anyone know a safe way to back up everything and restore them to the new rom?
I have the same model as you mate and the latest unrevoked worked for me, I downloaded the one straight from their website.
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Had you also updated OTA with froyo? If yes then why doesn't it work for me? I am sure that the phone is unbranded. Maybe it's something else and not hboot? My current specs are:
*Hboot:: 0.93.001
*Radio: 5.11.05.27
*Rom: 9.29.405.2 (got the update a week ago)
The only thing that I did not follow in the unrevoked guide, was that I didn't select hboot while loading the drivers, because I could not, no matter how many times I pressed the volume down button.I just waited for it to change to usb plug. Could that be the problem?
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Something else I noticed the first time I tried with unrevoked, was that in the revoked window it showed "triumph" for a moment and then it rebooted for the last time and then it showed "validation error..". Strange is that it never showed it again not even on the 2nd or 3rd try...What could that mean?
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
Might be relevent
EddyOS said:
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
Might be relevent
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Thanks for the tip, but this is about BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON while my desire is PVT1 SHIP S-OFF and it says that these are able to root but not flash a Rom, while I can't even root.. and the errors do not match..
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If you're S-OFF now then you don't need to root - if anything you might be already!
As you hadn't said anything about the rest of the HBOOT I thought I'd mention it but I'm on 0.93 and can root with no issues
And what does it mean? I am already root and I don't know it? And why does then the unrevoked method not work and where is the superuser app?
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If the Superuser app isn't there then you're not rooted, so that clears that up...
Go read the S-OFF thread in Development and post a query on there. It sounds like you may have a facotry unlocked bootloader which is extremely rare but best go and confirm it in the forum
Ok. I'm going now. Thank you Eddy and the others for your great help
*forgot to mention: the s off I wrote was after the failed tries with unrevoked(before I hadn't noticed if it was on or off) also the phone was destined to be a demo in a store*
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mine was a branded t-mobile one
PVT-3 Ship S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
try installing the HTC sync drivers and then remove HTC sync and try again.
If possible switch to Ubuntu and root, its much better.
I have already installed the HTC sync drivers and removed the HTC sync, but I will try reinstalling..You think that through Linux it might succeed?
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[edit]: tried again in windows removing reinstalling etc. and in slax live cd. Still no luck as the "validation error: backup cid is mising" wont stop appearing
[Second edit] I'm root now. Followed turkeys' tut
Hi I recently tried using unrevoked 3.22 and it really didnt seem to work as I got a "validation error: backup cid is mising". However after a reboot I found myself in clockworkmod recovery, so that part seemed to work. However straight afterwards I tried to start the phone, I discovered had no access to SD card and any attempt to access phone via USB also gone, it seems Bluetooth is also gone. However I got the SD card back again using FASTBOOT, has anyone got any ideas how I could possibly get USB back?
Hello cletus. I may not know the solution to your problem, but usually posting some further info about your device(HBOOT, radio etc) and the exact steps you made before that problem, might help someone that would like to help
I really hope that you find a solution to your problem
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cletus69 said:
Hi I recently tried using unrevoked 3.22 and it really didnt seem to work as I got a "validation error: backup cid is mising". However after a reboot I found myself in clockworkmod recovery, so that part seemed to work. However straight afterwards I tried to start the phone, I discovered had no access to SD card and any attempt to access phone via USB also gone, it seems Bluetooth is also gone. However I got the SD card back again using FASTBOOT, has anyone got any ideas how I could possibly get USB back?
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Hey there! Found a solution: usb brick fix guide
This is the jist of my problem, and im trying to get it fixed, as i have work tomorrow.
Bought an Evo 4g about a week ago. Decided i wanted to root it today, went on here, found some threads for rooting it.
Now before i say this next part, i have rooted other phones with no problems, so i didnt think this would happen to me.
Back to my point, followed the steps as thoroughly as possible, but when It was installing the PC36IMG file, it said "Radio_v2 : Fail PU or something like that. Rebooted the phone, and it sits at the HTC evo 4g screen... tried doing that same step over with the same problem. So i chose the clear storage option, restarted, same problem, then got into recovery and did the factory reset option, and now when i start my phone, it goes straight to recovery mode. Nothing more nothing less.
Anybody out there know how i can just get the factory stock rom or what ever back on this thing? ill be up all night till i get it fixed. Also maybe the update.zip? idk.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Are you in recovery or the boot loader? do you see skating androids?
wildgillis said:
Are you in recovery or the boot loader? do you see skating androids?
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I can get to both screens. If i just start it up without holding volume down, it goes to recovery and i have to take out the battery and restart it again holding volume down to get to the bootloader screen
on the bootloader screen (skating androids) what is your hboot version (second line) and is s-off or s-on (second line)
also link to instructions you used to root (different hboot versions use different instructions)
wildgillis said:
on the bootloader screen (skating androids) what is your hboot version (second line) and is s-off or s-on (second line)
also link to instructions you used to root (different hboot versions use different instructions)
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Okay check it out, here is an update of where im at, and im going to get you most of that information in just a minute..
Anyways, i found a Different pc36img.zip file and used that through bootloader and i didnt get any failure messages. Now my phone is started up and i received like 15 texts, and 3 voice mails so far..
the file was uploaded to megaupload and the descrpition was "EVO RESTORE 3.29.65.1.5"
Ill restart my phone now into bootloader mode to get you that info.
Do you happen to know what the original version was on your phone?
wildgillis said:
on the bootloader screen (skating androids) what is your hboot version (second line) and is s-off or s-on (second line)
also link to instructions you used to root (different hboot versions use different instructions)
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Okay i took a picture of what it says, but sincei just joined today i cant post it so this is the link from imageshack where i uploaded the picture
img26.imageshack . us/ img26 /4523 / evo4g.jpg
Just delete the spaces. and if it doesnt work, ill just type out everythingi t says
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Do you happen to know what the original version was on your phone?
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I just bought it last week from Radio Shack, so im assuming 2.2... But im not sure.
Current update is the phone works now and im pretty happy about that. Think maybe i should do some more research before i try to root it and flash custom roms. I do want to though, one day.
Phone says:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.02.0000
MICROP-O41f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.09.01
Oct 14 2010, 19:14:47
If your phone is working now after recovery use one of the following methods for root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
(make sure to follow instructions for hboot 2.02)
Glad you got it up and working the last phone I rooted was an 2.02 and it took me a few tries before I got it figured out.
wildgillis said:
If your phone is working now after recovery use one of the following methods for root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
(make sure to follow instructions for hboot 2.02)
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Thank you, i didnt see these posts before. I recently looked at the posts i was following, and they were dated back to august. So im sure these will be much better.
Another quick question...
So after all this friggen work, does this mean its rooted now?
no, if your rooted it will say S-off, and you will have a working recovery installed not just the bootloader.
cruise350 said:
no, if your rooted it will say S-off, and you will have a working recovery installed not just the bootloader.
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alright thank you. ill refer to the links posted earlier in this thread to root it properly then.
I had my eyes on installing RunneyMede Version 6.03 which was posted by sebastiaan here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961
So I started rooting my phone which I had successfully done then I downloaded unrevoked forever in order to gain S-OFF but since I was too stupid and reckless to actually check if it was compatible with my Htc desire I tried to install it and didnt even it check if it did turn S-OFF which it didnt.
So I downloaded the ROM and installed it but unfortunately I keep getting stuck at the ROM intro with no way of getting back.
I have a HTC desire (GSM) I tried almost everything I could think of and No I was reckless not to do a backup before starting so I have no way of restoring my phone before that. and it keeps replaying the intro, I also tried to restore to factory settings but after I do it keeps giving me an "Android" in the screen which comes and goes but nothing happens. but I did a backup when the ROM wasnt working incase I screw up again.
Please I seriously need help and I know I was stupid and reckless but I've come here hoping to find someone to save me.
PS:I thought of using revoloutinary to reroot and install S-OFF (if possible) but I'm not sure of what that may do to the phone since its already been rooted.
Thank you in advance
Bravo PVT3 SHIP S-On
HBOOT- 0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Well you dont need S-OFF in order to flash the rom, you probably forgot to create an ext-4 partition on your SD card.
Well you might be right
I'll try to partition them using recovery since I cant even open the phone fully so I'll do my best and I hope this works
Good luck with that, check out this tutorial on how to create a sd ext partition via windows (scroll down for the english version). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927512
that link would be of tremendous help
I tried partitioning using recovery but I had clockworkmod v2.5 and I cant seem to partition with it as I've found that it bricks some phones
I'll do my best with this link and if it works I'll be able to run the rom and work if not then I'll try to use an old version of it which can work with S-ON and when I open the mobile I would restore to factory settings and redo the entire process but right this time
thanks for your help so far I'll keep you updated
EvertorN said:
Good luck with that, check out this tutorial on how to create a sd ext partition via windows (scroll down for the english version). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927512
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from the link best use the gparted guide (post 3), it's often recommended by the pros here as there's less chance of error.
sorry now if im hijacking your thread but i have a few questions too...
i rooted my phone with the program called "unrevoked" (i think) for almost a year ago, i currently have the CWM revovery (it has a green and very simlpe) and it is S-ON. I run on the Miuiandroid rom now but i have been thinking about the same as you mention in this thread by sebasitaan... is it just to wipe and install as i did when i flashed to miui from CM7???
and the last one, is there a way of getting the 4ext recovery with touch on my phone...? Bravo PVT1 ship S-ON...?
thanks!
NitroSvennen said:
sorry now if im hijacking your thread but i have a few questions too...
i rooted my phone with the program called "unrevoked" (i think) for almost a year ago, i currently have the CWM revovery (it has a green and very simlpe) and it is S-ON. I run on the Miuiandroid rom now but i have been thinking about the same as you mention in this thread by sebasitaan... is it just to wipe and install as i did when i flashed to miui from CM7???
and the last one, is there a way of getting the 4ext recovery with touch on my phone...? Bravo PVT1 ship S-ON...?
thanks!
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there are dedicated FAQ links from that page, suggest you read through those!
NitroSvennen said:
sorry now if im hijacking your thread but i have a few questions too...
i rooted my phone with the program called "unrevoked" (i think) for almost a year ago, i currently have the CWM revovery (it has a green and very simlpe) and it is S-ON. I run on the Miuiandroid rom now but i have been thinking about the same as you mention in this thread by sebasitaan... is it just to wipe and install as i did when i flashed to miui from CM7???
and the last one, is there a way of getting the 4ext recovery with touch on my phone...? Bravo PVT1 ship S-ON...?
thanks!
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When you changing rom do full wipe for updating rom just cache and dalvik (must be the same base)
About 4ext you need to be s-off (look for alpharev if hboot is 0.93 and lower or revolutionary 0.93-1.02)
Well I partitioned the sd card
tried to reinstall and left it to boot and it did boot and get to the android but thing is theres nothing in lock screen and when I open (not sure how) it keeps giving me the message "com.htc.bg has stopped unexpectedly please try again" EVERY 2 SECS so I cant do **** and since its asking me to actually sign into google and start the entire process i cant do factory reset.
any ideas?
SUCCESSS!!!!!!!!!!!
i rebooted and it worked
thanks everton without your help I wouldnt have been able to do anything
Np man, glad to hear it worked.
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hi everyone,
my htc incredible was working fine till yesterday and i dont know it suddenly stoped working in the morning.
it turns on and get Stuck on android incredible splash screen, i waited for half an hour to see if it turns on but it doesn't
Can someone please help me?
Were you on CM7 can you get to recovery? if so you'll probably have to flash a new rom
What ROM and kernel were you using?
Hboot version?
Radio version?
Android version?
Rooted?
s-on or s-off?
cmlusco said:
Hboot version?
Radio version?
Android version?
Rooted?
s-on or s-off?
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so i just had this happen to me aswell.. i was sitting on my laptop last night and i heard the phone vibrate.. a minute later it did it a gain, and then again.. i finally went to look at it and i was just cycling through the slash screen.. i figured id work on it in the morning..
so im here now and im unable to get through hboot into recovery, or anywhere..
Hboot version : 0.92.0000
Radio version: 2.15.10.05.06
Android version: 2.3.7 if i remember right, one of the last cm7 builds
Rooted: yes
s-on or s-off: s-off
20twins10 said:
so i just had this happen to me aswell.. i was sitting on my laptop last night and i heard the phone vibrate.. a minute later it did it a gain, and then again.. i finally went to look at it and i was just cycling through the slash screen.. i figured id work on it in the morning..
so im here now and im unable to get through hboot into recovery, or anywhere..
Hboot version : 0.92.0000
Radio version: 2.15.10.05.06
Android version: 2.3.7 if i remember right, one of the last cm7 builds
Rooted: yes
s-on or s-off: s-off
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so i attempted to reflash CWM through hboot and nothing happened
i downloaded and managed to flash the froyo RUU as a pb31img.zip, everything went through and came out ok. on the reboot it again got stuck at the splack screen.. back in hboot now and its still showing s-off....
20twins10 said:
so i attempted to reflash CWM through hboot and nothing happened
i downloaded and managed to flash the froyo RUU as a pb31img.zip, everything went through and came out ok. on the reboot it again got stuck at the splack screen.. back in hboot now and its still showing s-off....
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I'm not trying to be rude or anything but just pointing out the obvious question- did you also name the CWM.img as PB31IMG.zip? or just use the .zip already prepared by cmlusco? http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/CWM_5.0.2.0/
20twins10 said:
so i attempted to reflash CWM through hboot and nothing happened
i downloaded and managed to flash the froyo RUU as a pb31img.zip, everything went through and came out ok. on the reboot it again got stuck at the splack screen.. back in hboot now and its still showing s-off....
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I had the same exact issue about a month ago, with CM7 and everything. It seemed to me it was a hardware problem (partition may be bad, ect.) I tried everything to fix it, but to no avail. Verizon replaced it under the insurance and I got a refurb one, no check for root.
Incrediblec XD ship S-On
Hboot-0.92.0000
microp-0417
touch panel-atmelc03_16ac
Radio-2.15.10.07.07
Jul 23 2010, 18:06:51
Hello, first thank you for an amazing and current forum, I'd been researching my issue for a while, but most things are dated around 2010. I've experience rooting and ROMing a Droid X with multiple ROMS, but I use the original Incredible as my main phone because I still love it. Well, I originally rooted my Inc with Unrevoked3 I believe. I left the ROM as stock up until a couple months ago when I put CM7.2.0 on it.
About a week ago, the phone would always have working mobile data. Yet, if I received or tried to make a call, I couldn't and then I would lose texting ability. Then, a couple days ago, I was using the Inc for wifi tethering when suddenly it went into an Incredible bootloop. I tried booting to the cyanogen recovery, but it will quickly loop out of it as well.
I went to pvillecomp.com/ and downloaded all the stock Inc software. I individually renamed files to PB31IMG.zip and tried to have HBoot pick up on them. Hboot will see the files, but then do nothing. Except, the originally ROM will get checked and come back and say that the current version is older and can't be flashed.
I've always tried the RUU software for hboot and the original ROM. I either get a usb error or a low battery error even if the battery is charged. Granted, I'm trying the RUU from the phone's bootloader screen.
Does anyone have some support they could throw this way? I use my phone for internet and everything. Thank you all.
-Nevin
BUMP*
Has anyone any ideas? I've since ordered a replacement phone, but would really like a workaround in case something would happen again or even to fix the old one. Thanx all.
-Nevin
NevinInc said:
BUMP*
Has anyone any ideas? I've since ordered a replacement phone, but would really like a workaround in case something would happen again or even to fix the old one. Thanx all.
-Nevin
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did you flash any radios? Flashing radios always ends up bad.
NevinInc said:
BUMP*
Has anyone any ideas? I've since ordered a replacement phone, but would really like a workaround in case something would happen again or even to fix the old one. Thanx all.
-Nevin
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S-off, flash TWRP (because CWM sucks) and flash a new rom. This should fix everything. Flashing a radio DOES not screw everything unless you do not know what to flash, in that case you should not be flashing radios.
I'm looking into the TWRP stuff right now since I've only experience with CWM. My only concern is that I still have S-on. How can I get S-off on my phone when I've only access to the bootloader? Sorry if this is a bit off a noob post, I've simply not the experience with the incredible to know. Thank you so much.
-Nevin
123421342 said:
S-off, flash TWRP (because CWM sucks) and flash a new rom. This should fix everything. Flashing a radio DOES not screw everything unless you do not know what to flash, in that case you should not be flashing radios.
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Btw, no I didn't flash the radio. That was the only thing I didn't attempt to flash. Yet, when attempting to flash anything else, nothing worked. Still wondering about getting S-off before using TWRP, but hopeful to still get it working. Thank you again.
NevinInc said:
I'm looking into the TWRP stuff right now since I've only experience with CWM. My only concern is that I still have S-on. How can I get S-off on my phone when I've only access to the bootloader? Sorry if this is a bit off a noob post, I've simply not the experience with the incredible to know. Thank you so much.
-Nevin
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BUMP/UPDATE:
Yes, I'm still at it trying to get my Dinc out of it's bootloop and up/running. It's difficult at this point to say what all I've tried. At one point I wanted to use htcdev.com to ensure the bootloader was unlocked/etc. I've had much trouble trying to get fastboot to work correctly on my pc. I've seem to get stuck on "waiting for device" which appears to be a driver error.
I gave up on that and started focusing on the RUU process. I've tried to install the entire Gingerbread 605.3 file. I fixed the error usb 170 by updated or changing htc sync software. Now I'm left with error 140 bootloader error.
I've also updated hboot using the ruu process for version 605.2. This worked on my pc and got me partially excited. Now my hboot shows up as "Locked" now at the top. I also downloaded a different Stock.img file. Hboot detected this and begun the install process. Everything came up as complete and upon reboot went right back into the white screen/incredible bootloop.
So since posting before I've updated htc sync on my pc and have officially relocked my bootloader. I don't mind RUU'ing things to stock, but now gotta get past the Error 140. Any ideas?
So I'm not sure how many are looking at this or have had ideas, but I was able to use htcdev to unlock the bootloader.
Before unlocking the bootloader I was able to RUU to image .15. After this is when I unlocked the booloader. The RUU said it was complete, but I still only bootloop on the incredible white screen. Now, some of the pb31img.zip files I've come across don't even try to install. This includes signed and unsigned .15 img files. Currently these are the new settings to the phone:
Bootloader: unlocked, s-on
hboot 1.07.0000
radio - 2.15.10.12.20
Image version: 4.08.605.15
The last option I can think of is to try using fastboot, but won't that essentially do the same thing? If you think fastboot is the way to go, can u link me or give me some basics on using it. Obviously I used it for unlocking the bootloader so it can't be that complicated.
Are there any other ideas or should I give up on my Dinc? Looking forward to hear what you think. Thanx.
-Nevin
somebody recommended you install TWRP and install a stable Jellybean ROM. Did you try that?