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E-mail and USB

Well, I am sure that some people out there might have a similar issue with their device. I have finally been able to setup my e-mail accounts to work properly. I have it turned on to connect to "The Internet" (Wi-Fi on the Dash) every 15 minutes to check for new email. However, when I have the Wi-Fi feature turned off, it won't do it; which is what I want it to do. But when I have it connected to the laptop via USB to charge, it checks for the e-mail. This is pointless as I am already receiving the e-mails on my laptop.
Is there a way that I can have it not use the USB to check for e-mails? I heard in another forum that I can set ActiveSync to "Work" which might resolve the problem. Anyone know how I can do that?
Finally, if that doesn't work, what e-mail applications do you guys recommend? I have my Outlook on my laptop setup so that I receive e-mails from both my account into a single Inbox and I have the option of choosing what account I want to send from. Something like that for the Q/Dash would be very useful.
Oh, and one more thing. Is there a way to have the Q/Dash delete the messages from the server when deleting from the handheld? I would like to be able to filter my messages when receiving them on the handheld so that I don't have to re-read them on my laptop when I get home. If there isn't a setting for it, is there a program that offers this option?
Thanks in advance...

Deleting messages from server
I'm assuming you're using POP and not IMAP to check your messages on your Dash. If so, this is what I do to delete messages on the server:
1. Download messages onto Dash (of course)
2. Delete messages on Dash
3. Empty the Deleted Items folder on Dash
4. Send/Receive messages.
This has the effect of removing the deleted messages from the server. Of course, you must also delete them on the Dash -- so I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for. Another option is to use IMAP...but my email server doesn't support it so I'm using POP.
Hope that helps!
Manzil

Move to Microsoft Exchange you will get Direct Push to your device and will not have to worry ever about e-mail synchronization issues

How would I move to Microsoft Exchange? Can you be a little more specific?

If your school or office doesn't offer it, this is for personal use -- you'll need a hosted Exchange service. There are a lot out there, google 'hosted exchange', or, take a look at the best, http://4smartphone.net
.PoNeH said:
How would I move to Microsoft Exchange? Can you be a little more specific?
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Anyone know how to change ActiveSync to "Work" instead of "The Internet"?

Change the sync directories.

Can you explain how. I'm really ignorant when it comes to these things.

Don't remember exactly, I found it in the help files, or the manual -- one or the other -- take a look.

chaznet said:
If your school or office doesn't offer it, this is for personal use -- you'll need a hosted Exchange service. There are a lot out there, google 'hosted exchange', or, take a look at the best, http://4smartphone.net
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If you want a free hosted exchange service that does push email and 1 Gb of storage will suffice, you could also try Mail2Web:
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp

Looks good -- just curious though, I noticed the free version is for use with the @mail2web email address format -- can you pay and use your own domain name. That's how 4smartphone.net works, but I couldn't find info on it at the mail2web site.
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If you want a free hosted exchange service that does push email and 1 Gb of storage will suffice, you could also try Mail2Web:
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp
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- not sure, but not a bad trade-off for free, right ?

Call me part of the ingnorant bunch too, but how can I configure POP on my DASH?
I connect through Wifi all the time. When I got to configure "Email Setup" and put my info in, is says contacting server please wait and nothing happens. It tries for a few minutes and then craps out and say it could not connect? But I can browse the web, can view my mail though my web mail accounts and can view my Yahoo account.
Please some advise on this.

you are part of the ignoran bunch! ;P

Creating Email sub folders

I have a Tmobile Dash runniing WM6.1.
I use Gmail and have it correctly set up on my phone.
I would like to create another email folder, like stuff to keep or something like that but when I go to the manage folders page, I can not do anything. No create new folder or anything.
Does anyone know how I can create another email folder for my pop gmail account on my phone?
Thanks,
jeff

innovator8 said:
I have a Tmobile Dash runniing WM6.1.
I use Gmail and have it correctly set up on my phone.
I would like to create another email folder, like stuff to keep or something like that but when I go to the manage folders page, I can not do anything. No create new folder or anything.
Does anyone know how I can create another email folder for my pop gmail account on my phone?
Thanks,
jeff
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yer talking about how in outlook or thunderbird on a pc you can create all kinds of subfolders specifically for this persons or that persons or this companies or that companies received email?
i dont know how to do it on wm6.1 email but i never tried either. ill look into it
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i have a question that i need help with too concerning gmail.
i set up the gmail account and i receive gmails just find and send just fine.
the problem is when i delete emails in my received box (and i have the DELETE OFF SERVER option checked under the WHEN DELETING EMAILS option in settings), well they DO NOT delete off the server. its so annoying. HELP!

I just want to be able to create a new folder so when I want to keep an email on my phone, from my gmail account, I can just put it there, and it wont fall off when I download the next three days messages.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jeff

Go to messaging and under your e-mail you setup go to 'tools' and then 'options' and 'Account settings'. Instead of downloading the last 3 days, set it to "keep all." Now your phone and outlook will be synced completely

RedBlaze said:
Go to messaging and under your e-mail you setup go to 'tools' and then 'options' and 'Account settings'. Instead of downloading the last 3 days, set it to "keep all." Now your phone and outlook will be synced completely
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oh ok i get the question now. thatd be keeping ahelluvalot of email if i did that lol
any ideas on why my gmail settings on the dash don't actually work with the gmail server?

renegadedj said:
oh ok i get the question now. thatd be keeping ahelluvalot of email if i did that lol
any ideas on why my gmail settings on the dash don't actually work with the gmail server?
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can anyone with a gmail account on their phone actually delete emails on the phone, and they will delete off the server if you have the setting checkeD??

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can anyone with a gmail account on their phone actually delete emails on the phone, and they will delete off the server if you have the setting checkeD??
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Yes, it will
If you set the time to manual...the emails will be deleted after your next manual check.
If you have it set to every 15, after the 15 minutes is when they get deleted/

Mikey1022 said:
Yes, it will
If you set the time to manual...the emails will be deleted after your next manual check.
If you have it set to every 15, after the 15 minutes is when they get deleted/
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i've tested that. i've deleted on my phone, went to the delete folder, and deleted, then sent received again and tehy didnt come up on the phone, but no change when i login on my pc and check gmail.com my account. "deleted" gmail itemson my phone are always still in my gmail account on gmail.com

problem with email in tf3d...please help!!!

hello all, i seem to be having a problem with my e-mail in TF3D and was hoping someone would be able to help me...my problem is this, 1, whenever i read an e-mail in tf3d(not opera) it does not register in my actual yahoo acct that it has been read (or deleted for that matter)...also, whenever i send an e-mail using my TF3D (again, not opera) it does not register anywhere on my phone or at the actual yahoo site that i have sent a message...it doesnt appear in sent folder, draft, outbox etc...its like the message was never sent bc theres no visual proof (but the recipient always gets the message even tho its not showing up)...im hoping someone can help me fix these problems bc i love using the tf3d email tab, but i need proof that i sent and received/read this messages...any help would be greatly appreciated

I suppose that your Yahoo account is either setup either via POP3 or IMAP on your device. If you used the HTC Mail Setup wizard, then it's most likely IMAP. Anyway, the point is you're using a pull method to retrieve your mail (as opposed to push).
When you read or delete email from your device, Yahoo doesn't know that. So, that's why it doesn't show up as read/deleted when you check your email via a web browser.
Solution: after you've read or deleted any emails from your device, tap "Menu" and then "Send/Receive".
By default, when you set up email accounts on your device, only the inbox is synchronized with the server. If you want to see items in your "Sent" folder, you'll need to manually set that up. Luckily this is very easy.
Solution: In your inbox, tap "Menu", then "Tools", and then "Manage folders...". Toggle on the folders accordingly.

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I suppose that your Yahoo account is either setup either via POP3 or IMAP on your device. If you used the HTC Mail Setup wizard, then it's most likely IMAP. Anyway, the point is you're using a pull method to retrieve your mail (as opposed to push).
When you read or delete email from your device, Yahoo doesn't know that. So, that's why it doesn't show up as read/deleted when you check your email via a web browser.
Solution: after you've read or deleted any emails from your device, tap "Menu" and then "Send/Receive".
By default, when you set up email accounts on your device, only the inbox is synchronized with the server. If you want to see items in your "Sent" folder, you'll need to manually set that up. Luckily this is very easy.
Solution: In your inbox, tap "Menu", then "Tools", and then "Manage folders...". Toggle on the folders accordingly.
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hey, forst of all i just want to thank u for not only your quick response, but also for your thorough explenation...the only problem is, IVE TRIED BOTH RECOMMENDATIONS!!! (NOT MEANT AS YELLING, MORE LIKE FRUSTRATED)....as far as the deleted messages, i figured that would "update" yahoo so i "resent/rereceived" the messages so it would (hopefully update) but it didnt work...also, nothing is showing up n the sent folder that your talking about on either the phone or on the actual website...its crazy, i really dont understand it...and yes, i do have the little option about saving a copy of sent messages n sent folder checked...any other ideas???

I think I would delete the account and then set it up again manually. Try different port numbers. Better yet. Forward everything to gmail and use it instead. push is awesome (except attachments still don't work right, but imap is easy too).

[Q] saving emails

Seeing how HTC have now screwed up email storage so that once the email is deleted from the original source it is also deleted from the phone, is there a way to save certain emails in another folder?
Or does anyone know if HTC are aware of this problem and are working on it? It started after the Froyo update.

The way you're describing it, it doesn't sound like HTC (or Google) screwed up anything.
If I delete an email from the server, I would expect that same email to be deleted on my phone. This is the very definition of "synchronization". Whatever happens on one device will happen to every other device that synchronizes with it.
If you intend to keep an email, why would you delete it off the server?
Why not create an archive folder to store the emails you want to save and then set up your phone to sync that folder? Or just leave it in your inbox. You can choose to flag it if you want to be able to spot it faster.
Btw, you didn't mention how you're connecting to your email. Exchange, POP, IMAP?

I'm connecting with POP. Now up until the Froyo update I could leave emails on my phone for as long as I wished by setting the Send & Receive settings - Download Options - By Days - All and it made no difference. Since the update it deletes the phone's inbox whenever I delete mail from the server it came from.
I won't go into why I delete from that server - it's to do with having access to mail on three different devices and how they collect it.
There are ways around it but it means having to delete things manually from the server and making sure a few are kept until I don't need them on the phone any longer.
Can I save emails on the phone in another folder that I create?

It doesn't sound like you should be using POP3 at all. POP3 is suitable if you access your email using one client only. Once you access your email server with POP3 from more than one client, it just gets very messy. Each client's inbox contents will be different from one another.
If possible, you should always connect via IMAP4 or Exchange. As a plus, they allow you to synchronize folder structures.
I've always found that POP3 causes a lot of trouble for me. Always end up with mysteriously deleted emails on either server or client.

I understand what you're saying, but if I use IMAP, does that not mean that the emails only stay on the phone as long as they are on the server, leaving me in the same predicament?
At the moment, I have all my email go to a webmail service. From there it fwds to my ISP and from there to my home computer where it remains permanently. Now, at the same time, I have a laptop that gets the mail from the webmail and then deletes it off the server. I also have my phone which gets the mail from the webmail but leaves it undeleted so the laptop can also get at it (once it's on the laptop, I don't care if it's on the phone). BUT, there are some emails that are good to have saved on the phone like flight info, etc for when I travel for work.
Not as confusing as it sounds and this works best for us as my wife and I share the address and we can see all the mail at any time on any device.
From what I understand of IMAP, once it is deleted from the webmail, it also disappears on any computer that is using IMAP. I want to make sure that certain messages are on the hard drive of any device at any time.
If you know better, then I'm all ears!

First, yes, using IMAP will mean that deleting the email off the server will effectively delete it off your phone.
But I still think you should use IMAP but just change your behavior a bit.
- Connect via IMAP with your PC and your phone.
- Create 2 folders under your Inbox. Name it appropriately. (eg "Attn needed" and "Archive"). Remember to setup your email clients on both your PC and phone to sync these folders as well.
- If you have any emails where action is required, then leave it in your Inbox or put it in the "Attn needed" folder.
- If you have any emails where you just want saved, then put it in "Archive" folder.
- Delete emails only when you're absolutely sure you will never need them.
It sounds like you delete your emails because you don't want to use up all your server space. To get around this, just do the following. (I'm assuming you are using MS Outlook but you should be able to do this with other email clients like Mozilla Thunderbird, etc)
- Create a Personal Folder. In Outlook, these are *.pst files. Name it appropriately. (eg. "Old emails")
- Every month or so, just do a quick cleanup by moving all the mails you don't want on the server into the Personal Folder which is saved locally on your PC. (Keep in mind that the moved mails will no longer be available on your phone as well.)
Alternatively, try the following. This is easier and more automated. But depending on your needs, it may not be appropriate for you.
- Connect via IMAP with your PC and your phone.
- Create a new Gmail account.
- On your PC email client, set a rule so that each new email gets forwarded to the Gmail account.
- This way, you can delete mails off your phone, PC, or server as much as you want. A copy will always be available in Gmail. As a bonus, the search feature in Gmail is just great. (If you want to save all outgoing emails as well to Gmail, just bcc yourself on your emails)
- For emails that needs your attention, just flag it. In the HTC Email application, you can filter out all the flagged emails by sliding over to the "Marked" tab.

OK - thanks for all the advice. I will start having a go at those ideas and see how it works out.

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OK - thanks for all the advice. I will start having a go at those ideas and see how it works out.
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Simon,
The fact that the device can't store emails once they come off the server is total bs. In fact, I have the same problem which DID NOT OCCUR when on 2.1. As soon as I put froyo on it started to happen.
THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!! All my blackberries never did this nor did my desire on 2.1. There is something wrong with froyo on certain devices and HTC does not have an answer yet.
Go to your setting in outlook and check off the 'leave emails on server' option for 3,7 or however many days you think you need.
Cheers.

I have contacted HTC and they tell me this is a new 'feature' of Froyo. That I should not delete emails from the webmail if I want the phone to keep them. I replied to them that if I wanted this feature I would use IMAP and not POP3.
I have requested that they reinstate a proper use of POP3 and I would suggest to anyone else to email them on their support page and ask the same. I they realise how many of us are annoyed at this then they may do something about it.

simon12 said:
I have contacted HTC and they tell me this is a new 'feature' of Froyo. That I should not delete emails from the webmail if I want the phone to keep them. I replied to them that if I wanted this feature I would use IMAP and not POP3.
I have requested that they reinstate a proper use of POP3 and I would suggest to anyone else to email them on their support page and ask the same. I they realise how many of us are annoyed at this then they may do something about it.
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Can you believe that these clowns are calling it a 'feature?'...they honestly must we're stupid or something. How can auto-deleting emails be a 'feature'??? Why cant I simply delete them myself like on Gmail? ALso if this is a 'feature' why is it then that some handsets do it while others don't???

[Q] Having an issue with email deleted from server

I just replaced my Tilt with a Tilt 2 and am now having an issue with my emails being deleted from the server when I delete them from my phone. I went into the advanced settings to try and change it, but the only options I have available are "Delete Messages from server" or "Move messages to server Trash". I would like to know if it's possible to have it set up the way it was with my old phone, whereas, when I deleted an email from my phone, it stayed in the inbox on the server.
I have looked for a solution, and I am not sure if there is one, but I *did* search for an answer before posting. Everything i have come across pertains to pop3 and this phone automatically configures the setting as imap.
I am accessing gmail, if that matters.
Is there a fix for this?
I have already read about moving them to a folder, which is the same thing to me as them being moved to the "trash" folder. I don't want to move them. I want them kept in the inbox.
Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated. This is driving me nuts!!!

I had the same issue, i just select "mark as un-read" on the phone after i read them. if i forget to do that , the mail will just show up in my "old mail" folder.. then from my computer i deal with them..

That won't work for my initial request. I want to delete them from my phone, but keep them on the server. If I mark them as unread, they are still on my phone. Is there a way to change the email setting to pop instead of the default IMAP? I believe that was the setting on my first tilt, but this one automatically sets it as IMAP.
Thanks.....

totallybeachin said:
That won't work for my initial request. I want to delete them from my phone, but keep them on the server. If I mark them as unread, they are still on my phone. Is there a way to change the email setting to pop instead of the default IMAP? I believe that was the setting on my first tilt, but this one automatically sets it as IMAP.
Thanks.....
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You need to tell us which type of email you are using (Google, exchange, etc). But what you describe is IMAP behavior. Pop servers don't do that.