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Tilt 2 with E2ROM just put the latest Android w/sense and it looks cool and nice features...but it runs horribly slow. I tried removing and doing it again still really, really slow response between apps, even the touch screen lags.
wpbear said:
Tilt 2 with E2ROM just put the latest Android w/sense and it looks cool and nice features...but it runs horribly slow. I tried removing and doing it again still really, really slow response between apps, even the touch screen lags.
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yeah, this is known already. it doesnt have much free ram left with the sense version. try the AOSP 2.1 build, alot more stable and faster. plus data and service wrks off the bat without setting it up. u can always customize it to look like the sense version. like i have done. if u were to look at my phone, ud think i had the sense version in there. u can always get new widgets, clocks., etc...
if they ever get this 100% and then flashable to ROM, it will be awesome seeing ATT offers crap for android
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if they ever get this 100% and then flashable to ROM, it will be awesome seeing ATT offers crap for android
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There are 5 ATT Android devices about to be released.
Any with full hardware keyboard, maybe I'll go to an ATT store? But, I already spent the money on the TP2 so would like the full port of android someday soon.
you know it Reeefer and in september, u know what im getting ..lol dat damn dell mini 5 streak 5 whatwva da hell its name is gotdammittt...lmfao a fine piece of machinery right there..........and runs android............damn....and a phone..damn...pc touchscreen capacitive screen dat kicks )(!!....damn......snap da mutha)(!!!n magic dragon processor.......im srry im trippin...lol...u already know da deal ;-)
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yeah, this is known already. it doesnt have much free ram left with the sense version. try the AOSP 2.1 build, alot more stable and faster. plus data and service wrks off the bat without setting it up. u can always customize it to look like the sense version. like i have done. if u were to look at my phone, ud think i had the sense version in there. u can always get new widgets, clocks., etc...
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I feel the same way. AOSP is so much faster and more stable. I think it only caused me extra clicks and make the system running more sluggishly. Could someone please enlighten me how Sense is useful?
I havent had time to fully test the cyanogenmod rom for the EVO yet and I know a lot of people really love the extra features added to it. My question is what are those features not available in other roms or sense roms?
Well you have great features that NO other ROM can do! Such as no more 4G. No more FM Radio! Camera quality is lessened. But my personal favorite is no more HDMI output. But all those aside...it makes your phone...well...kinda faster? Something like that.
davebu said:
I havent had time to fully test the cyanogenmod rom for the EVO yet and I know a lot of people really love the extra features added to it. My question is what are those features not available in other roms or sense roms?
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while all those features are no there [and not missed... I have 4g and still take cm6 over anything else]. the overall performance and feel of your phone is night and day. give it a shot... you'll probably have a hard time going back
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Well you have great features that NO other ROM can do! Such as no more 4G. No more FM Radio! Camera quality is lessened. But my personal favorite is no more HDMI output. But all those aside...it makes your phone...well...kinda faster? Something like that.
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really? hdmi is your biggest gripe? it sucked anyway. maybe it's better now since they officially uncapped the fps. and um "kinda faster" lol that's a good one
The easiest way to answer this question is to just flash it and try it out. We could sit here and type everything out for you but that wouldn't be any fun!
Give it a try. Don't let others sway your judgement.
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evoooo said:
Well you have great features that NO other ROM can do! Such as no more 4G. No more FM Radio! Camera quality is lessened. But my personal favorite is no more HDMI output. But all those aside...it makes your phone...well...kinda faster? Something like that.
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The camera quality is the same with CM6.
Cm6 is all open source.. not everyone appreciates the hard work that goes into it. HTC's Sense is removed so it doesn't hog your system memory. My favorite thing is that the wiimote app works allowing me to play video game emulators with a wii-remote. I work nights soo I got to pass time..
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The camera quality is the same with CM6.
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actually the resolution is higher... it's just not "widescreen"
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the overall performance and feel of your phone is night and day. give it a shot...
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Is this really still the case after HTC unlocked the fps in the most recent update? I use 4g every so often myself so i'm not entirely ready to try switching to CM6 myself, but trying to keep an eye if there is something that makes it outweigh having 4g.
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Well you have great features that NO other ROM can do! Such as no more 4G. No more FM Radio! Camera quality is lessened. But my personal favorite is no more HDMI output. But all those aside...it makes your phone...well...kinda faster? Something like that.
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still being a whiney ***** i see
OP
i just jumped back to Cm6 i can say on my phone even after the OTA CM6 is still loads faster
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Is this really still the case after HTC unlocked the fps in the most recent update? I use 4g every so often myself so i'm not entirely ready to try switching to CM6 myself, but trying to keep an eye if there is something that makes it outweigh having 4g.
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i have no desire to bog my hone down with sense so i haven't even checked out the new ota. at some point i'll load it up just to have a nand of the newest stock rooted rom
Anyone have an idea when it will be released?... Theories? I am nearing the end of my 14 day return for my Inc 2 and noticed today that the X2 is supposedly going up for sale on May 26th WITH Gingerbread. Thoughts?
Umm have been reading on this and my question is why do you want ginger bread ? its just "Updated" version with nothing that is really new .
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Umm have been reading on this and my question is why do you want ginger bread ? its just "Updated" version with nothing that is really new .
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Are you serious? GB is significantly different from froyo. Better power and application management, NFC support, VoiP/SIP calls, SIP audio for video calling, better download management for HTTP downloads, new sensor support(gyroscope), audio, graphic and touch screen input enhancements for game developers, support for webm/VP8 video playback, aac audio encoding and bumped api's to 10 with more support for native code.
Not to mention the new skin for AOSP and the new multi touch KB. I'm sure I left out a bunch of stuff but that's what I can recall from reading. So that being said you should take a moment and actually do a bit of research before posting a response like that.
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Okay true .. but I'm not freaking out like "Oh I WANT Gingerbread already" there is no point in begging for it .. its more like you will get when you get it.
But then again, it shouldn't be the case that we're still stuck on Froyo when Gingerbread has been out for so long already and Google has already announced Ice Cream Sandwich.
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But then again, it shouldn't be the case that we're still stuck on Froyo when Gingerbread has been out for so long already and Google has already announced Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Again you guys need to research or have some actual information on the subject posted. GB is only running on a handful of devices (officially) and ICS will not be out for a while. So GB will come I'm sure, in its own time. So the majority of handset owners are "stuck" on froyo. Keep in mind any device with a custom UI is going to take longer than a vanilla device.
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The Inc1 is getting it...... so I'm assuming we will as well..
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The Inc1 is getting it...... so I'm assuming we will as well..
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I have no doubt just a matter of when not if. And when root comes (ever the optimist) we will likely have even more choices.
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I've read in many articles that, HTC said that gingerbread would come in Q2, Since the end of Q2 is in june, i don't see why we wouldn't get in then, especially if the first incredible is supposed to get it in summer. Motorola isn't going to let the Droid X get gingerbread before the X2, i don't imagine HTC will let the first incredible get it before the inc2
I would agree too, I think they are waiting to release the bug fixes like backwards maps in the GB release. Costs them too much to keep pushing out patches.
i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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WHOAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is freakin awesome news!!
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WHOAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is freakin awesome news!!
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Was there any doubt? I mean the original Inc is getting it the DX and D2 are as well. Seems a no brainer imo.
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well i knew it was coming but hearing that it is likely soon is what i was reacting to
Do we have any inkling as to what GB will look like and what flavor of Sense 2.1 we will get? The leak of GB for the Thunderbolt had Sense 2.1 with the Sense 3 notification pull down, but not the new lockscreen. The HTC Flyer is running GB and Sense 2.1, but the lockscreen is the Sense 3 style. I would love to get the lockscreen and the quick settings in the pull down.
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Do we have any inkling as to what GB will look like and what flavor of Sense 2.1 we will get? The leak of GB for the Thunderbolt had Sense 2.1 with the Sense 3 notification pull down, but not the new lockscreen. The HTC Flyer is running GB and Sense 2.1, but the lockscreen is the Sense 3 style. I would love to get the lockscreen and the quick settings in the pull down.
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once(if) we get root, DEVs can get us the 3.0 lockscreen the inc1 already has ROMs using it.
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once(if) we get root, DEVs can get us the 3.0 lockscreen the inc1 already has ROMs using it.
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I am all for this, but it would be nice to see it come as part of the update from VZW/HTC. If HTC already has it for Sense 2.1, lets see it on our devices when they get updated.
I've read that only dual core devices will get the full on sense 3.0 experience(officially). Maybe jcase or one of the devs in the know could verify this?
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The gb version I see is similar to the version the bolt shipped with. It's sense 2.1. No lock screen goodies.
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i have a sample inc2 device with GB 2.3.3 sense 2.1 (s/w version 2.09.605.1 baseband 20.27w.30.0811u_1.07.00.0507_3) loaded. This is not a mkt sale device but since I got it with that loaded on it i know GB will be coming to all when verizon finishes whatever tests it does. Also since it is so stable, i doubt that everybody getting GB is too far away.
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I can hope...just make root easier now, haha.
I don't know :/ Initially everything I read about it suggested that it used some form of hardware acceleration to make phones run much smoother. However, after seeing many speed tests between the Droid Razr and the Galaxy Nexus (both using TI OMAP4 chips, razr has GB and GN uses ICS) the Razr smokes the Nexus in every aspect. And I understand there are many other factors involved that could play into that, but in general it seems people's experiences with ICS point to it being much more bogged down then GB ever was. I don't know, anyone else have thoughts on this :/
Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.
It probably just depends on optimization and other stuffs. Processor doesn't determine everything, although it does help. I personally like the TW ICS and it's pretty smooth to me.
Ics gapps like youtube is one of the big big reasons why I stay and its just something different from gingerbread.
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Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.
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Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/
ICS on my phone is a minimum upgrade that works good for me but when my tab went from Honeycomb to ICS it made a much larger impact. I think ICS brings all the capable devices together and Jellybean will be the one that solidifies Android.
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We all love something new, and we all love eyecandy.
If GB is working fine for you right now, you won't gain much at all moving to ICS.
The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.
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The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.
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So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?
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So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?
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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*
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Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/
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Google is on a yearly release schedule for major Android releases. Jelly Bean or whatever it'll be called was planned well before ICS was shown to the public.
And ICS on skinned devices isn't much of an upgrade, especially with the mess that is Touchwiz. This is due to the (correct) belief on Samsung's part that Android is more complicated and "ugly" than the average user wants/expects. Some of their feature enhancements are useful, but the visual is just awful. On its own, Touchwiz isn't worse than vanilla GB, but you can't use Touchwiz on its own. There are always elements of vanilla GB that show and that makes the entire thing an uncoordinated mess.
Android has reached a point where Google can work on refining the OS with small features. More importantly, ICS is the start of a unified and unique theme that can set Android visually apart from iOS and WP7 which look much better than any Android phone shipping with GB.
Of course, none of that matters since OEMs insist on skinning their phones. I had hoped Samsung would've followed HTC and toned down the skinning for the new version of Touchwiz, but that was a pipe dream considering the number of SGSII's they sold. My biggest problem with Touchwiz is that it doesn't mesh with the Holo theme at all which I hope app developers would use, allowing for a more unified Android look.
What I'm trying to say is: No, ICS is not that much of an upgrade from GB. But, ICS is that important to Android and its future.
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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*
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I actually love ICS especially the last few leaks. Everything seems so fast and efficient to me
Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.
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now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.
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Yeah Miui with 4g will be huge! He solved it on NS4G and is building a ROM now. After that (or maybe already) other Miui.us guys like TCP should have access to his code or changes to the code
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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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in its stock form hell yea
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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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How do you do that?
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Well, I had it switched from the touchwiz launcher to the stock launcher. I don't think that makes a difference though. Manage apps> all> select an app> if it's a stock app instead of the uninstall option, it'll have disable. Beats the greyed out block that's on GB.
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Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Totally agree with you, and I did the latter because of the battery life and I'm waiting for them to polish out the bugs I found. The title of the thread is asking for peoples opinions and evaluations of ICS. You have to understand that some people are not going to share your point of view.
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With a Sense 4a/ICS Sense ROM, this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598865), my Limited Edition Spiderman Beats By Dre headphones, some theming of my own, and a white case, I am going to transform my DINC2 into what I call an "HTC One Incredible S"
ok?
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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ok?
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Freedom of posts in the general section, just take your ignorance elsewhere bro -_-
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Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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thanks for telling me that, didn't know thanks.
ChillyChan said:
Beats already comes with Sense 4 by default. You don't need to flash anything else unless you want to mess it up.
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Yea the great thing I like about sense 4 is that beats is integrated throughout. So it works on YouTube and Pandora
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
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Just to clarify, last season's HTC devices get an ICS update in the form of Android 4.0.3/Sense 3.6. This applies to the Sensation (all models), Vivid, Amaze, Incredible 2/S and even the Desire S/HD, along with a couple of others.
You won't see Sense 4.0 on any of these 'older' devices officially. It was the One series' drawcard, and it won't be officially ported backwards. That's what XDA is for
That said, I'm really impressed with performance increases on the Sensation, Vivid and Amaze from the ICS update. Usability of Sense 3.6, especially the Launcher, is greatly improved. You should get a good little boost out of the official ICS when it arrives.
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fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other
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fwiw, it looks like msm7x30 devices (ds/dhd/inc s/inc2/is4g, etc) will get 4.0.4/sense 3.6 as thats what the desire s leak was
and typically the updates are all very similar to each other
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Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
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Well I learned something today Justin, thanks mate!
Why do you think the older devices are getting the 0.0.1 difference? RAM?
EDIT: MSM8x55?
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most likely they started working on the older devices later, and by then 4.0.4 was in aosp id guess
given that htc updates on the same os version so frequently, id imagine the evo 3d/sensation/rezound will move up as well
some of the msm7x30 devices on gb at points had 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, and 2.3.6 (dont think any of that chipset ever saw 2.3.7)
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I thought I read on here somewhere that when we get ics we will still never get true sense 4 only 3.6? I know very little about the sense roms so I am just trying to educate myself a little.
Jayydude glad you got you a dinc 2. I ended up sending the guy that gave you his blackberry for free the batteries and charger I had offered to you for your x2 when you had problems. Him and his son was happy. You should love this phone over the x2. I am running the M5.01 ext4 and really like it. Also flashed the 3.0 patch to get the sick lockscreen. Some sick widgets and awesome battery life.
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I just got it and hr ago, sadly they just sent the extended battery ( free ) today so I can't use it until tomorrow. But that's true no Sense 4.0 just 3.6 :/ But hey any add on to ICS is amazing to me. I love sense But I'm going to flash sense 3.6 + ics rom, beats audio + xloud patch, capacitive button fix, touch recovery, and etc. I wish I could get the on - screen htc version of the ics softkeys and disable the capacitive buttons + lights that would really be cool ^_^