I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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1. if u follow the steps exactly as explained, and never touch the phone when it is installing flashing formatting etc etc then u get 99.9% u wont brick it
dont worry im also a student and i bet theres more of us here
2. hmm not sure how to explain what a radio is
3. yes u can, but dont see a reason why, cuz devs update roms quicker and add more functions to them
4. if you just root then no you wont loose your stuff, if you want to install a custom rom then yes you will loose it but you can always back it up using free rommanager back up
This is the main reason why I haven't rooted my Desire yet, despite 1 or 2 friends urging me to. They have Heros. I haven't got the money to replace it and seen as it's on contract I'd be pretty screwed for the next 13 months or something.
Don't worry
Understandable.
I was thinking the same.
It was when I run out of space to install apps and gmail stop working bcoz of low memory space warning.
I decided to take the plunge.
Used unrevoked to root my desire and installing my second rom today lol.
Oh and the radio is the file that contains radio setup for froyo roms.
the one you need for froyo rom is version 5.xx. eg. 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08.
so if you are going to install froyo based roms then you need the radio file update or all hell breaks loose.
you can update the radio then install the rom or the other way around up to you.
have fun and ask if you need help.
Was in a similar situation and finally took the plunge today.
Was 10x easier than I thought it would be. Follow the guides and you can't go wrong.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Radio is the part that handles WiFi, gps, 3G and all that stuff. E.g. you have low WiFi signal, you can update the radio to fix it.
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Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App (thanks for the tip due this app )
The ROM's here don't include the radio hence why you need to update the radio seprately, most, if not all, the froyo ROM's will need the latest radio.
Peelypeel said:
Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App (thanks for the tip due this app )
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Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
jacketyjoe said:
Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
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Is this Neophyte?
showthread.php?t=732246 (i cant post links yet, im sure you can work that out though)
and how do i flash the radio with unrevoked3, where do i even get the radio... file?
Sorry about the questions, normally id just go barrelling into to something like this and work it out as i went, but this is serious stuff this time. I want to be sure.
Thanks again
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
Peelypeel said:
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
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i think it means you just locked your phone to the simcard that was in your phone at the time. Rooting it should unlock it again though
BTW here is an unrevoked guide, neophytes ROM and the radio (use the latest, not the leaked one), follow all the instructions to the letter and you should be fine (follow unrevoked's rom flashing instructions for the radio though, thats how i did it and gawd was it easy)
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
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Peelypeel said:
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I'd tried the other way first and my phone wouldn't root (i was really really frightened when a HTC logo came up and stayed on for a whole 24hrs) so i tried unrevoked and it worked like a charm
Lets hope everything goes a bit smoother for you than me
That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
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That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
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no trouble then, nice to hear
Have fun, i love it
Sorry to ask a stupid question, can i root my desire, keep my current OS as it is and still get the OTA update to 2.2 as it would if my phone wasn't rooted?
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
SteveEdson said:
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
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Agree, also have the modaco ROM. Best thing is that you bake your own rom and only put items that you really need.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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Well mate.. I was pretty much in the same boat as you.. Student, wanting to root my phone, didn't know what all the stuff was.. And I'll try and rectify it for you as much as possible, following your points .
1. If you follow the guides which have been put up by unrevoked, or the guide on this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 or our lovely friends over at android.modaco http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/ then you shouldn't have a problem at all. I was feeling the same way, was confused and really didn't want to risk the rooting process.
2. The Radio.. It's not like a Radio which we use to tune in to FM and AM, think of it as something to help other processes work in the phone. Be it Wifi, 3G, HSDPA, GSM.. All these get updated with the new ROM's (Froyo) and they need the Radio to make them run smoother, and better. Think of a Radio as a driver when you're updating something on a computer. But BE CAREFUL when flashing the Radio, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT touch the phone until it has completely finished booting (2 or 3 times, you'll know when it's finished).
3. You can put it back to normal any time, just by flashing an older ROM on to it, just have a look at some of the official RUU's on this forum.
4. The sort of stuff which you're worried about are photos, text messages and apps? Best way for this is to invest in MyBackupPro, where you can back up all of your texts online etc. For apps and all, why not download ASTRO from the Market? It can back up all your apps and install them again no problems.
I hope this helps
Dan
im new to this so im trying to figure out all this stuff. i recently rooted my phone using unrevoked, i believe i did it right but who knows. can someone please let me know the advantages and disadvantages of using unrevoked or another rooting tool im just looking to speed up my phone remove the lag remove some of the sprint apps and able to get some cool apps on my phone any help will be greatly appreciated
jjarn said:
im new to this so im trying to figure out all this stuff. i recently rooted my phone using unrevoked, i believe i did it right but who knows. can someone please let me know the advantages and disadvantages of using unrevoked or another rooting tool im just looking to speed up my phone remove the lag remove some of the sprint apps and able to get some cool apps on my phone any help will be greatly appreciated
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The older method of Unrevoked was known to break 4G for some people. I don't know, because I've never used it, but I haven't heard any complaints from the people using the new Unrevoked.
To check if you phone is rooted properly, simply download the Superuser from the market and install it (you may already have it if it came on the rom you installed). If you do have, download shootme from the market and see if it allows you to take a screen shot of your phone. If it does, you're rooted.
What I don't understand, is why would you root the phone if you don't know what rooting does or what it can do for you.
I like the unrevoked root as it is easy to do and easy to remove.
The best part of rooting for me is installing custom roms and getting rid of the bloatware from sprint. Also by installing one of the new custom roms you will get the new leaked HTC OTA update (thanks to flipz) which makes the EVO a lot more usable because you actually get decent battery.
Wifi tether and quickboot are nice too.
Go try a new rom with some interesting additions like bakedsnack or vaelpack and you'll soon get the hang of it. First thing you need to do is install a custom recovery. You can use clockwork or amon ra, but I've had a few problems with clockwork so I would recommend amon ra. Either of these let you install custom roms and do nandroid backups.
thanks to both of yall i did properly root my phone a friend told me about it i looked it up and being the person i am i had to do it lol ill learn the more advanced stuff as i go could either one of yall tell me the best place to get roms and kernals i know i would like to enhance the performance of my phone and remove stock sprint apps
jjarn said:
thanks to both of yall i did properly root my phone a friend told me about it i looked it up and being the person i am i had to do it lol ill learn the more advanced stuff as i go could either one of yall tell me the best place to get roms and kernals i know i would like to enhance the performance of my phone and remove stock sprint apps
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Best place to get roms and kernels would be under the development forums on this website.
They are specific to the phone (ie you likely cannot run a Desire rom on your EVO).
Always backup your nand with whatever recovery image your using before flashing new stuff, that way you can always get back to where you were if you screw something up.
I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here
I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...
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I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here
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unrevoked seems to do the job... even after applying the ota update u stay with s-off which lets u flash custom recovery and roms.
one thing that does suck with being rooted this way is that the engineering boot gives u much more than what the new one does... but thats for more advanced users.
yea rooted mine today using unrevoked but was on mac so was a little easier to do but is still a simple process from what it was before look around on youtube and on these forums youll find what your looking for just a simple search and your golden
Sooks said:
I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...
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Here you go. Its not the easiest way but youll learn more doing it this way... at the very least read through it before you go the one click route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
Roms? Just start clicking and reading. Pretty much every rom has a description and instructions on how to flash.
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Camera issues seem all fixed on the all the roms, but that's more of a rom issue not a root issue.
You can un-root, re-root, run a RUU, run a rooted stock rom, etc. there's so many choices I suggest you go to the guides in one of the first posts and start reading.
jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Better? Thats a matter of opinion. One click will put you on clockwork recovery which has had a lot of issues as far as not wiping correctly and that can cause problems flashing rom to rom so if you choose that method I'd switch to Amon_Ras recovery. Just run a search to find it.
Unrooting is the same no matter how you root.
A root method wont break your camera.
Again...
The assistance from you folks is much appreciated
Hello all I just received my Evo yesterday. I managed to Root the phone using Unrevoked 3.21. But, now I just want to wipe everything and build my phone from the ground up. I wanna do the latest android so froyo 2.2 and on stock HTC Sense. Can anybody link me to a guide that will lead me to the right direction? Thanks.
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Hello all I just received my Evo yesterday. I managed to Root the phone using Unrevoked 3.21. But, now I just want to wipe everything and build my phone from the ground up. I wanna do the latest android so froyo 2.2 and on stock HTC Sense. Can anybody link me to a guide that will lead me to the right direction? Thanks.
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You got lots and lots of reading to do. There is no specific guide, you need to learn what ROMs are what.
Good luck building your phone from the ground up and then adding in Sense.
Why did you root if you didn't have a reason to do it? You were at 2.2 and HTC sense when you bought the phone.
First things first....
1) Have you made yourself familiar with recovery mode yet and what it can do?
2) Have you done a nandroid backup yet? This should of been the first thing to do after rooting.
If you have not done this and need help just post back so u can be directed to the right walkthrough.
If you have done this and want to use your phone with the latest software and root capabilities, then I would suggest downloading the latest HTC 3.30 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819838 It has not been officially released yet but seems to be very stable and contains some official fixes. I have flashed it myself and seems to be working fine. Make sure you do a full wipe and backup before flashing. This should put your phone to stock w/ root capabilities and let you build on the latest software from the ground up.
**By the way...if you are planning to use themes then download the "deOdexed" version, otherwise, get the "Odexed".
Hope this helps.
All I did was root my phone and downloaded Titanium Backup and got rid of some Sprint apps. That's about it... but no, I am not really familiar with recovery mode and nandroid back up. So, all the help I can get is always welcome. Thanks.
Also, when I do a complete wipe and reinstall the stock rom, the Sprint apps will also be included?
If it is the stock rom then unless whoever posted it took these out, then they should be on there. Can't remember for sure, but I believe the stock 3.30 will take you to exactly like stock except rooted and with new software version.
Couple things you should do first....
1) Read through this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427
2) Search for how to do nandroid backup and get that done first. Without it, you have nothing to recover if something does not flash properly.
3) Read, read, read.....if there is something you don't understand search these forums or the internet. If you can't find the answer then post something.
**If you are rooted do not take the OTA updates. It could really screw things up. Check in these forums first because something will be posted about it.
I rooted my brothers evo 4g and flashed cyanogenmod nightlies thinking he would love it but he wants his stock back unrooted. i can flash fresh for him which is darn near stock but want to put it back to factory settings incase something happens to it and he needs to return it. I know it was dopey of me but had a few drinks and seemed like a good idea at the time. I love cm7 on my evo 4g but not him. lol Please send instructions for a dummy like myself that is easy to execute. Thank you all in advance,
here you go
how to unroot in two steps
Sweet thanks bro. I know enough about rooting, flashing etc to get the job done but but enough to eff a phone up also. i used unrevoked (one click) and rom manager (one click)..... so I know enough to make my phone sweet as hell but a lot of these terms i cant wrap my head around. Thanks again
anytime man
Just make sure you flash the newest 3.70 stock image.