[Q] WiFi Location Incorrect - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It used to be, when I connected to my WiFi, it new exactly where I was. Now, I think since I have my Desire HD, it thinks my WiFi network is about a mile away.
Even worse, my Dad moved about 200 miles, when he connects to his WiFi it shows him in his old house....
How can these be fixed/corrected?
Thanks.

Hi,
I'm pretty sure that when Google drive about collecting StreetView images they log every wireless network they stumble across, this is then tied to a GPS position.
If you remember in the news recently Google were subject to an investigation because they collected data that was transferring between these wireless networks whilst collecting StreetView images.
Your fathers wireless router would have had it's location plotted previously, but now its incorrect due to him moving.
As for your router, it may have not had it's location plotted so the position you are given is the telephone/broadband exchange that you are using.
Google the website SamKnows and use that to find the location of your exchange, see it these two locations marry up.
Hope this helps

andyharney said:
Hi,
I'm pretty sure that when Google drive about collecting StreetView images they log every wireless network they stumble across, this is then tied to a GPS position.
If you remember in the news recently Google were subject to an investigation because they collected data that was transferring between these wireless networks whilst collecting StreetView images.
Your fathers wireless router would have had it's location plotted previously, but now its incorrect due to him moving.
As for your router, it may have not had it's location plotted so the position you are given is the telephone/broadband exchange that you are using.
Google the website SamKnows and use that to find the location of your exchange, see it these two locations marry up.
Hope this helps
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Do you have a solution to this problem. SamKnows can not help me. Thanks

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GPS over GPRS without GPS comunicator for DASH

I have seen on samsung simple phone i don't remember model... however so it has google earth and it was working by internet and was shoing my place in about 10Mtrs corency... so can we or do we have some kind of program to make that on HTS EXCALIBUR?????? i have tried google earth for smartphones but anyways it's requesting GPS device...
It is possible to triangulate your location to a certain (horrible) accuracy using Cell Towers in your area. I believe there are actually programs that do it (I have used one). The best accuracy i have ever gotten was within 150 Meters, standing still. That is the second down-fall..you can't use triangulation efficiently when moving (if at all...)
So unfortunately, there is not real good way to do this. For decent results, you would want a GPS.
It is possible to triangulate your location to a certain (horrible) accuracy using Cell Towers in your area. I believe there are actually programs that do it (I have used one). The best accuracy i have ever gotten was within 150 Meters, standing still. That is the second down-fall..you can't use triangulation efficiently when moving (if at all...)
So unfortunately, there is not real good way to do this. For decent results, you would want a GPS.
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I used Google Latitude which uses some sort of cell tower triangulations on my DASH and it works out pretty well. I was able to get within 80 meters and if you actually look at the Google map that is in the Latitude, my position is actually spot on.
My Google Maps Street View puts me within 50 meters.
Now is this using a DATA Connection? (I noticed the title said GPRS). That could make the difference. Whenever I tested out a program like that, i would be using little to no data connection, but if there is a greater stream of data being transferred, that may affect the response (or make it easier for the phone to identify the closest 3 towers)...
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so what kn of settings I must give in GOOGLE LATITUDE that it shows me my place by GPRS? i pushing on MY LOCATION but program is saing that my location is unavalibe... I live in armenia can it be areason of error?
Virtual GPS
There is a program by Kamlex called Virtual GPS. There is a free version and a pro version. It uses no internet access and gets your location through the cell towers.
When using Google Maps, just set your gps com port to which ever port the VirtualGPS is using (usuallly 3) and it will locate you to the nearest tower. I will post the program here.

[Q] (SOLVED) Weather widget showing wrong location

OK, first I know that there are many threads about this problem, but mine is a bit different. I searced on google for a solution, but got nothing so far.
Since a few days the official HTC weather widget started showing an incorrect location. By incorrect I mean that I live in Hungary and it shows Naples (Italy).
The wifi location is turned on in settings.
When I switch on GPS and it locks on the satellites, I see that the widget updates to my Correct location (Hungary). When I switch it off, so only wifi again then it goes back to Naples.
Not only the location, but the weather forecast is incorrect too.
The weird thing is that not only the widget but Google Maps, Locus and every nav app that can use wifi to locate me (with GPS switched off), show me that I'm in Italy. I tried Weather Bug, Fancy Widget and they all say Naples, but why??? I've never even been there.
It's definitely not ROM related, I tried several, even went back to stock, but it didn't help.
One thing I figured out, that I connect to the internet wirelessly (obviously) through a D-Link router. Today I just had a feeling, what if the router is causing all this. I switched it to my old SMC router and then I updated the weather widget through that. And voila, everything was back to normal. It showed correct location after several weather updates.
After that I went back to D-Link and then I found myself in Italy again
So my question is, is there any setting in the router that can be modified?? I did firmware upgrade too, but it didn't help either. The time zone and other stuffs are set correctly in the router.
I don't want to go back to the SMC router as it was freezing a lot and that's why I switched to D-Link.
Things that I also tried:
Remove and readd widget then setting current location
Deleted the other cities that were in it
Well I can set the widget to a specific location, but I would like to have it updated automatically by my location.
Any help is much appreciated.
SOLUTION:
Everything is OK now, the widget shows my correct location, Google Maps is showing the correct city. I don't know what was the real solution. It could be coincidence or some stuff that I did.
Here are the things I tried:
-I submitted my D-link router's mac address at skyhook, so that it knows my correct location. Google uses MAC addresses (not IP address) to find us when using wifi and not GPS.
Here's the link where I submitted the MAC: http://www.skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/submit_ap.php
I selected my location on the map then entered the router's WLAN MAC ADDRESS and submitted.
-I also cloned my previous router's MAC address, because as I said the positioning worked well with the SMC router.
Changed my router's ip address from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1 (don't know if that helped, I just wanted to copy as much option as I could from the prev. router)
-(This may have nothing to do with the problem)I visited the mobile version of Accuweather.com on my laptop and selected "Current Position". It found my location correctly. And after this I saw the correct place on my phone too.
These are the things I made to solve it. But don't take is for sure. It could be only coincidence and maybe some of my modifications were unnecessary, but I'm now happy that it works again
Are you sure you are not using a proxy on your dlink router?
island3r said:
Are you sure you are not using a proxy on your dlink router?
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I'm not sure, it runs on stock settings. I don't really know how to set up a proxy. I only added WPA security to wireless.
I just checked my bro's Spica, he has Fancy widget and it updated well through D-Link. Now I totally don't get it :S
I'll try to reassign a new IP for my phone.
I also made the DHCP release/renew stuff.
Solved it. Updated OP
I know this an old thread but I was having the same issue with my new HTC One and evo 3d for past couple weeks. I live in KS and current location was stuck in Kentucky when I was on wifi at home. I submitted thru skyhook, shut off all wireless devices and renamed my ssid then rebooted router and airave and so far so good

Location wrong without WiFi/GPS/Edge

Hey guys,
I tried searching on google but to no solution.
The problem is when I switch off all forms of data except cellular coverage, my location changes to a City where I'm not at. I went to that place maybe thrice since I got the phone.
My location in Maps, Weather or even location saved along when I take pictures will be that other/wrong location.
Its easily fixable by just starting one of the data services, but why should I even face it in the first place.
Its happened on all ROMs and wipes don't fix it. Done a full wipe twice from cwm.
My GPS works normally when I'm using maps, it takes about 30 seconds to get a lock on my location.
Any workaround or solution or fix? (except for not keeping data switched on all the time)
Thank You.
Cheers.
death__machine said:
Hey guys,
I tried searching on google but to no solution.
The problem is when I switch off all forms of data except cellular coverage, my location changes to a City where I'm not at. I went to that place maybe thrice since I got the phone.
My location in Maps, Weather or even location saved along when I take pictures will be that other/wrong location.
Its easily fixable by just starting one of the data services, but why should I even face it in the first place.
Its happened on all ROMs and wipes don't fix it. Done a full wipe twice from cwm.
My GPS works normally when I'm using maps, it takes about 30 seconds to get a lock on my location.
Any workaround or solution or fix? (except for not keeping data switched on all the time)
Thank You.
Cheers.
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Location without GPS is online service. I hope that answers your question about "fixing" it.
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There's three things at play in plotting location: 1) GPS, 2), aGPS, and 3) Geo-location
GPS is the onboard chip functioning alone to pick up satellite signals and lock on them. You can test how well your GPS chip alone works by putting the phone in airplane mode and rebooting it.
All aGPS does is use a wireless signal (Wi-FI or cellular) to help the chip get its first lock faster. Once lock is established the chip is on its own.
From Wiki...
"Assisted GPS is a system which can, under certain conditions, improve the startup performance, or time-to-first-fix (TTFF) of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. It is used extensively with GPS-capable cellular phones as its development was accelerated by the U.S. FCC's 911 mandate making the location of a cell phone available to emergency call dispatchers."
Geo-location uses wireless signals alone to approximate position. Devices w/o a GPS rely on this for location based services.
From Wiki...
"Geolocation is the identification of the real-world geographic location of an object, such as a radar, mobile phone or an Internet-connected computer terminal. Geolocation may refer to the practice of assessing the location, or to the actual assessed location."
Once the chip locks, it memorizes the position of the satellites. So if you had your wireless on to get first lock and then turned it off the chip is still using the satellite locations aGPS helped it find. If you want to test the performance of your chip itself reboot it in airplane mode. Download GPS Test from Play. It'll give you a much better picture of what's happening with your phone. I just tried it on mine and indoors it locked and got down to 15’ accuracy in less than a minute. Conditions affect performance but, at least outdoors, yours should do as well or better than mine. If it doesn’t, it’s a h/w problem.
tkolev said:
Location without GPS is online service. I hope that answers your question about "fixing" it.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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BarryH_GEG said:
There's three things at play in plotting location: 1) GPS, 2), aGPS, and 3) Geo-location
GPS is the onboard chip functioning alone to pick up satellite signals and lock on them. You can test how well your GPS chip alone works by putting the phone in airplane mode and rebooting it.
All aGPS does is use a wireless signal (Wi-FI or cellular) to help the chip get its first lock faster. Once lock is established the chip is on its own.
From Wiki...
"Assisted GPS is a system which can, under certain conditions, improve the startup performance, or time-to-first-fix (TTFF) of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. It is used extensively with GPS-capable cellular phones as its development was accelerated by the U.S. FCC's 911 mandate making the location of a cell phone available to emergency call dispatchers."
Geo-location uses wireless signals alone to approximate position. Devices w/o a GPS rely on this for location based services.
From Wiki...
"Geolocation is the identification of the real-world geographic location of an object, such as a radar, mobile phone or an Internet-connected computer terminal. Geolocation may refer to the practice of assessing the location, or to the actual assessed location."
Once the chip locks, it memorizes the position of the satellites. So if you had your wireless on to get first lock and then turned it off the chip is still using the satellite locations aGPS helped it find. If you want to test the performance of your chip itself reboot it in airplane mode. Download GPS Test from Play. It'll give you a much better picture of what's happening with your phone. I just tried it on mine and indoors it locked and got down to 15’ accuracy in less than a minute. Conditions affect performance but, at least outdoors, yours should do as well or better than mine. If it doesn’t, it’s a h/w problem.
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Thanks, that was a very informative post.
Well I switched on GPS and put my phone in airplane mode and restarted. The Maps App keeps saying "Your current location is temporarily unavailable" and I can't figure how to use the GPS Test yet.
Okay, I did get a lock-on from the Maps and the GPS Test app. I went closer to my window lol . Now I'll see if my location comes up wrong.
Edit:Location came up accurate in weather.
Edit2:Location is accurate in a photo I clicked with everything off.
By accurate I hope you understand what I mean, when all the data goes off the phone should still think its in the place/location where it was when the data was on. Ii.e Surat in my case. But what used to happened before today(gps in airplane) was without data the phone will think its in Pune, which is a 12 hours drive from here.
I'm not the only one who's faced this, some say its a bug in sense :/
Anyways here's a thread I saw earlier
http://www.htconesource.com/forum/htc-one-x-discussion/1042-incorrect-location.html
The answers the guy gets are retarded.
To be sure, are you saying that when only on mobile data and relying upon that, you cannot get an accurate location down to 1 KM?
If so, this sounds like a software issue or a carrier issue.
If your GPS has poor reception then I would advise getting warranty repair. It might have the same issue as the Wifi antennas do.
Yeah just so you know pure GPS is line of sight, you have to have a clear view of the sky to work (no clouds either).
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
To be sure, are you saying that when only on mobile data and relying upon that, you cannot get an accurate location down to 1 KM?
If so, this sounds like a software issue or a carrier issue.
If your GPS has poor reception then I would advise getting warranty repair. It might have the same issue as the Wifi antennas do.
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jonshipman said:
Yeah just so you know pure GPS is line of sight, you have to have a clear view of the sky to work (no clouds either).
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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No no.
My location when all services are on shows up fine. But say I have a weather widget and all my data services are off, instead of showing the location detected last when data services was on the widget and other settings will show another city.
I'll explain it with an example.
Lets have a hypothetical country with all the letters as its cities.
I stay in 'S' at present. I have visited 'P' and 'M' a couple of times but I'm back to 'S' now. On the occasion that my data services switch off, intentionally or because of weak coverage. Instead of showing 'S' as my location in the weather widget, app and geotag the phone will show 'P' which I had visited days ago.

My Nexus 7 (2013) thinks I'm in Pittsburgh...

I'm cross-posting this from my reddit post that got no responses...
So, this is weird and I've been banging my head against the wall for months with this issue. My tablet thinks I'm in the Pittsburgh area, more specifially, at Laszlo Bartos Photography on 541 Peregrine Dr, Irwin, PA. The kicker is, I'm located in Newfoundland on the east coast of Canada. I've never been to Pittsburgh, and haven't been to the USA since September 2014.
For the past few months, my tablet has been giving me weather in Google Now for Irwin, PA and North Huntington, PA. I can't figure out what's causing it. I was running stock Android 5 on my Nexus 7, and have recently completely wiped my tablet out and installed a clean copy of Android 6, but the problem persists, so I'm assuming its something with my Google account. My LG G4 phone (which is also stock) does not have this problem.
I'm not using any sort of VPN or proxy server (just google's 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4), so I can't figure out why this is happening. Both my phone and tablet are on the same wifi network, and I have another phone with no sim card that is connected to the wifi without this issue.
Even opening up google maps shows me at this address with an active blue dot for the gps. I've changed my location settings to all 3 options, doesn't make any difference. I move around my house, and the dot moves on the map as if I'm in this place. I go and download an app that auto-detects my location as Pittsburgh. I search google for "Movies" and it gives me results for movie theatres around Pittsburgh.
What could be causing this, and more importantly, how can I fix this?
is it an LTE version, or WiFi only? What is the IP address (not the one inside your local LAN, but the one he ISP gives to your service? Have you looked into one of the apps that shows the value of the gps sensor data? (is GPS enabled?) What is the SSID of the WiFi, and have you tried changing it? In other words, all the various info that google/android uses to try to geo-locate you...
You probably tried (and reset) all of these, but the more raw data you provide, the more likely someone can help you with this...

Problem on Google Maps position

Hello Guys,
I have a really annoying problem.
When I'm at home Google continuous switch between my real position (Home) and another place in Italy (Pesaro) (I''ve never been to Pesaro).
I have at home My Nest thermostat and Philips HUE and at least 10 times during the evening the light will be switched off because it sense that I'm not at home (Wrongly).
I have tried with High accuracy, low Accuracy and "Only position".
With only position use the GPS and It works but inside buildings is not working.
With High Accuracy is working, but when the phone goes to sleep when in standby, the map will goes wrongly to Pesaro.
With low battery the problem is really presente and it stay very often to the wrong position.
In google History there is no sign of Pesaro (For google Location History i've never been there).
The problem is only present in my home and near the home.
With wifi off and 3g on the problem is more present.
How can I solve that? Any advice?
I tried GPS Fix but is not working.
Simone
It looks like Google Maps has got a wrong default location and this looks to be an issue that has arisen from 2013 when Google stopped users changing their default location. The only test I can think of is to download offline maps for an area round your home and the area around Pesaro and then with "phone", wifi and gps switched off open Maps and see which map opens - It may not work since the phone may well hold its last recorded location for faster location fixing..
From your post I'm assuming that you've checked your home and work locations and roamed around all the location related bits of your Google account ( https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin )
peterk-1 said:
It looks like Google Maps has got a wrong default location and this looks to be an issue that has arisen from 2013 when Google stopped users changing their default location. The only test I can think of is to download offline maps for an area round your home and the area around Pesaro and then with "phone", wifi and gps switched off open Maps and see which map opens - It may not work since the phone may well hold its last recorded location for faster location fixing..
From your post I'm assuming that you've checked your home and work locations and roamed around all the location related bits of your Google account ( https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin )
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The account is all secure.
I have already downloaded the Offline Home maps from google.
Never tried do download also the Pesaro one.
I try checking about default location.
See this thread (started 12 aug 2015 and still active today!) https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/maps/NfH94fJ6KUU;context-place=forum/maps. The issue appears to be that Google's wifi location database records the MAC address of your router as being in Pesaro. An accurate GPS position overrides the wifi location but "sleeping" causes the wifi location to be restored. Claimed fix method in earlier posts but summarized in this post https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/maps/NfH94fJ6KUU/JtidQZ_WCAAJ

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