[Q] Nebie to Root Pls! Help! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I recently joined the world of root with my Evo 4G. I rooted via the latest unrevoked 3 and also unrevoked forever (s-off). After completing this process I switched my recovery file back to a PC36IMG file and applied the OTA update. It seemingly corrupted my Root until I updated to the new SuperUser zip (2.3.6.1) from Superuser 2.1. Note: I updated to the new Superuser app via sd card recovery flash after ota. All works wonderful.
The problem comes into play when I tried to do the same for my friends phone. The root went well as well as the forever (s-off). In error I updated his superuser app via the same method before applying the ota update, and now the update just fails everytime I try to install. I have tried several fixes via reading different post with similar issues but none have the exact problem. PLEASE HELP!

jayvivie said:
Hi, I recently joined the world of root with my Evo 4G. I rooted via the latest unrevoked 3 and also unrevoked forever (s-off). After completing this process I switched my recovery file back to a PC36IMG file and applied the OTA update. It seemingly corrupted my Root until I updated to the new SuperUser zip (2.3.6.1) from Superuser 2.1. Note: I updated to the new Superuser app via sd card recovery flash after ota. All works wonderful.
The problem comes into play when I tried to do the same for my friends phone. The root went well as well as the forever (s-off). In error I updated his superuser app via the same method before applying the ota update, and now the update just fails everytime I try to install. I have tried several fixes via reading different post with similar issues but none have the exact problem. PLEASE HELP!
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Well you made two very big rookie mistakes, you used the OTA update and you posted in the Dev section instead of Q&A. You shouldnt ever post anything in the dev section unless it is a ROM or a kernel or something like that, some people here seem to take it personal. Since it's your first post its ok though.
As far as the OTAs, Never flash them. Devs will post them so they can be dissected, and parts of them scavenged, but that is the only thing they are good for. Just wait for someone to post a rooted copy of it and flash that instead.
To fix his phone flash sprint lovers via fastboot/hboot and you should be all set. It contains everything you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153

xHausx said:
Well you made to very big rookie mistakes, you used the OTA updated and you posted in the Dev section instead of Q&A. You shouldnt ever post anything in the dev section unless it is a ROM or a kernel or something like that, some people here seem to take it personal. Since it's your first post its ok though.
As far as the OTAs, Never flash them. Devs will post them so they can be dissected, and parts of them scavenged, but that is the only thing they are good for. Just wait for someone to post a rooted copy of it and flash that instead.
To fix his phone flash sprint lovers via fastboot/hboot and you should be all set. It contains everything you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
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+1 on this

THX FOR YOUR HELP! It's really good to know you have a community of people willing to help a new guy, I really appreciate it.
The sprint lovers rom looks good. I haven't flashed a rom before and would rather stick with the stock rom for my friends phone for now and just fix my mistake at this moment. Given that I updated my phone successfully I cant seem to understand exactly how I got off track with his. The only difference that I am aware of is the fact that I updated mine with superuser 2.1 installed and attempted to update his phone while 2.3.6.1 was installed.
If that difference is the culprit I've tried to flash back to superuser 2.1 and it seem impossible. What can I do to get back on track. thanks again in advance.
oh I will post in the apropriate area next time

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question about the new OTA update

Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed for this but...
I've been keeping up with the thread joeykrim started about how to gain root with the new v1.47.651.1 update. Then I saw the newest thread where they've been able to do it. Yet I've seen a bunch of v1.47.651.1 rooted downloads in the dev subthread, and a week ago or so, I had downloaded the rooted deodexed 1.47 rom, with the new radio, with the plan to flash it over. I was hesitant because I knew people were having problems with the new update. So for now I have Fresh's rom (which btw is awesome).
So I've finally put 2 and 2 together, and this is what I've discovered... Is the new update ITSELF, just the actual FILE, able to be rooted? aka, the update was downloaded to a computer, hacked, and then able to be flashed to a phone with no problems? And that would mean the only problems are for people who applied the OTA update or bought a new evo that already had the 1.47 update, correct?
sorry to be an idiot!
Correct .
Well, wait.lol the Rom you downloaded is basically an stock Rom with update, an entire image that will replace what you have. It is just rooted already.
But you are correct that it is only people who took the ota update or bought a new phone and the salesperson did the upgrade who must use the new method to root.
At least you posted in the right forum so you better not get flamed lol
elegantai said:
Correct .
Well, wait.lol the Rom you downloaded is basically an stock Rom with update, an entire image that will replace what you have. It is just rooted already.
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ok, thanks!
yeah I just have the stock rooted 1.47 rom. I think I'll wait until some dev's get their hands on it and see what they release, before i flash it.
I am running my own variation of the deodex 1.47 that calkuin (sorry for the spelling if its wrong.) So its good to go. But I think there are a few that already have it incorporated such as damage control.
i think i also have that caulkin 1.47 version. do you like it? what kind of things do you like about it over the 1.32.651.6 version?
I just used it as a starting point for my Rom. I just wanted the update so i can actually logon to my WiFi router. The image you have is the stock image, so it still has all the Sprint apps on it and stuff.

[Q] I'm rooted and I still don't have the 2.2 do I have to unroot?

I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A9AI5RM9
Thats the RUU, apply this update and you'll be completely stock 2.2
what do you mean apply I've downloaded this before I can't find the file to download and when I try to open it it says it doesn't have a program to open.
If you are rooted Most Roms will not allow an OTA to come through.
you have options the option listed above will unroot you and install 2.2.
the other option is to go to the dev forum and download a 2.2 custom rom or the rooted 2.2 stock rom. flash those and you are good to go.
I will remind that currently there is no way to root 2.2 so if you choose to go through the RUU and go to stock rom that way you will NOT be able to root at this time. It could also be WEEKS before a root method is found. I dont know why anyone would want to or would suggest doing this unless you plan to take it in to sprint for repair.
How do I apply the first file?
kidcjay25 said:
I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
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No you do not need to unroot. If you accept that ota update it will take away your root because the rom it puts in isn't rooted. I happened to download and try out froyo 2.2 like 3 days ago to see how it functions. It works very well however the update killed my hotspot completely. I ended up restoring back from Froyo 2.2. I will give a link that will take you to the downloads to do it where the rom comes rooted, and the radio and wimax drivers are there as well. Here it is.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520 One thing to remember is this is not the absolute final build that is pushed out on the OTA update that they have done today. So my guess is very very soon if not already there will be a posted and rooted version of the final build. I am unsure and I am almost positive nothing is every final, but I don't know if you will be able to re-root your evo if you just accept the update from Sprint. If you no longer want a rooted phone and all you care about is getting the update, then you can or will have gotten the request today from sprint as I did or you can look for the update manually in system updates, from settings at the home page. Hope that helps and take care.
kidcjay25 said:
How do I apply the first file?
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I strongly suggest you do not just get stock 2.2 because you have no idea if you will ever root again. Unless your taking it into sprint it makes no sense. I really do not want to attempt to get you that file because its a massive mistake. The download does work though i already tried it that much i can say. See if someone else will actually tell you what you need to do because i'm not sure i can bring myself to do it sorry. I am slightly unsure how you ended up rooting your phone if you are having trouble with a download that has an executable file as in you click on it and it runs If you however need help downloading or flashing or whatever the other stuff that i linked that i will definately try to assist you with. If you flash a stock rom you can and will get the message to update the system and you can manually look for it too. The roms have that disabled so people can't due to ignorance, apply the update then say, "Oh crap I am not rooted how do I fix it?", which we will see a lot of today.

[Q] OTA update 3.26.605.1

I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
Hey Dude,
I figured I would get to you before the wolves do lol you'll probably get a better response to your questions in the "General" section. To answer you directly there is already rooted versions of this OTA such as (shameless plug) both my Roms Redemptive rEVOlution (Evo hybrid) and Redemption Rom.
OK. Thanks.
RuLEoF2 said:
OK. Thanks.
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Not a problem enjoy Rom hunting.
RuLEoF2 said:
I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
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I've been hitting Cancel on that update message for the last 2 weeks. Today I read about it a bit, and finally just gave in and ran the update. I don't know if it actually updated, but the message is gone, it says my system is up to date, and I still have S-OFF/root. FWIW.
jrocket said:
I've been hitting Cancel on that update message for the last 2 weeks. Today I read about it a bit, and finally just gave in and ran the update. I don't know if it actually updated, but the message is gone, it says my system is up to date, and I still have S-OFF/root. FWIW.
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you can edit the build prop to make it stop search the skyraider thread i think its in there.
ACD168 said:
you can edit the build prop to make it stop search the skyraider thread i think its in there.
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I saw that, thanks. I wanted the update, I just couldn't find any solid answers on whether it disabled root or not. It sounded like it disabled root but left S-OFF alone, so I did ran the update, thinking I could root it again later. But now I still have root, so I don't know if the update was actually applied or not.
I'm not worried either way, it was just an experience relevant to the OP's question.
jrocket said:
I saw that, thanks. I wanted the update, I just couldn't find any solid answers on whether it disabled root or not. It sounded like it disabled root but left S-OFF alone, so I did ran the update, thinking I could root it again later. But now I still have root, so I don't know if the update was actually applied or not.
I'm not worried either way, it was just an experience relevant to the OP's question.
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Go into Settings/About Phone and see what firmware version you have, if it's 26 your updated, if it's still 21, it didn't update.
If you don't know if it's updated, it's prolly not. You would've known as it would've rebooted and then had run the update. If you don't recall any of that, your not updated.
Like was posted previously, you'd be better off finding which ROM has the update and then just flash that, be sure to do a backup 1st and foremost in case you screw up, you can always flash back to what you had and start over.
The only way that update will take is if you have stock with just root and no changes, I did this initially though and you will loose root, which is why I recommend you backup before trying, this way you don't have to root over again.
Edit build.prop. Here is the configuration you'll need to change to stop the OTA updates. This will also help save your battery if it frequently tries to download on 3G.
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/264707:user/release-keys
RuLEoF2 said:
I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
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If you want to stay put on the version you have now, not accept the update, not be bothered by it again, then following bsdbytes's info for editing the build.prop is what you need to do.
If you want to accept and the NOV OTA update and still have clockworkmod recovery and root after... see -> http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/ (If you have an SLCD incredible, be carefull of which CWM Recovery version you use).
RuLEoF2 said:
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
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The current Unrevoked3 (ver 3.21) does not work to root the Nov OTA, nor install a custom recovery. There were tweets about an update coming, but delays due to thanksgiving, finals, etc. I haven't seen an ETA posted yet.
joelcableguy said:
Go into Settings/About Phone and see what firmware version you have, if it's 26 your updated, if it's still 21, it didn't update.
If you don't know if it's updated, it's prolly not. You would've known as it would've rebooted and then had run the update. If you don't recall any of that, your not updated.
The only way that update will take is if you have stock with just root and no changes, I did this initially though and you will loose root, which is why I recommend you backup before trying, this way you don't have to root over again.
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thanks for the info. you're right, it didn't update, i'm still at 21. when i clicked update a window came up saying it was going to reboot, but it never did. must be due to change i had on the device.
KidJoe said:
If you want to stay put on the version you have now, not accept the update, not be bothered by it again, then following bsdbytes's info for editing the build.prop is what you need to do.
If you want to accept and the NOV OTA update and still have clockworkmod recovery and root after... see -> LINK (If you have an SLCD incredible, be carefull of which CWM Recovery version you use).
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thanks for that link - i'll try to go through that when i get a chance.

[Q] 4.04 update will not install on rooted Galaxy nexus help

So I am running the stock rom but have root access. the update pops up every 5 minutes to remind me to install it. I let it install and about 3 second in i get a yeild sign with an exclamation point in it. and the phone stops there. I waited for about 3 hours and nothing happened. Anybody know what I need to do here? I used Galaxy Nexus root toolkit v1.3 to root my phone. BTW i am with verizon
For as far as i now you cant update a rooted device. i sugest unrooting an try to update agian.
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yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had.
nvm i think im going to trade the phone
So no one has an answer on this?
jordi97 said:
For as far as i now you cant update a rooted device. i sugest unrooting an try to update agian.
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Yes you can. You can't update a phone with CWM recovery though.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Correct a rooted phone can update but not with any custom recovery. You need to flash back to the factory stock recovery.
Sent from a phone...
OK so looks like everyone is here was incorrect. The 4.04 rooted update is here in the XDA forums all i needed to do was flash it and the new antenna and everything is working fine now. here are the links.
4.04 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631796
radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630438
Thank you Brandon for helping me out with this.
There are no stupid questions only stupid answers.
Sdalton19 said:
OK so looks like everyone is here was incorrect. The 4.04 rooted update is here in the XDA forums all i needed to do was flash it and the new antenna and everything is working fine now. here are the links.
4.04 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631796
radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630438
Thank you Brandon for helping me out with this.
There are no stupid questions only stupid answers.
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Your right, stupid answers, that's not an ota update you did. That was pulled from a phone which was updated and packaged into a flashable file to use on a rooted device. But a carrier ota update as your device was asking you to update will not work without stock recovery.
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Isn't that exactly what i asked for second post in? Point is if you knew that, why didn't you say so? Look there's nothing wrong with being wrong every once in a while but be graceful about it. And if your going to give advice make sure you fully read the question and offer decent advice. You were saying there was no way to update it without unrooting and flashing back to stock. That was after I asked "yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had." Is that not exactly what I asked for????
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Isn't that exactly what i asked for second post in? Point is if you knew that, why didn't you say so? Look there's nothing wrong with being wrong every once in a while but be graceful about it. And if your going to give advice make sure you fully read the question and offer decent advice. You were saying there was no way to update it without unrooting and flashing back to stock. That was after I asked "yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had." Is that not exactly what I asked for????
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Well, you are right that there are a lot of partially right and partially wrong answers in this thread. But what are you saying is not exactly right either.
1) There is a difference between updating your existing build (like what you had asked to do in the first post) and flashing an entirely new build.
2) There is a difference between running a stock ROM (like what you were running before) and running a ROM that looks like it's stock, but is not (like what you are running now).
3) Root has NO impact whatsoever on your ability to install OTA updates on your stock ROM.
4) An OTA update will NOT install with a stock recovery UNLESS you are using the stock recovery version that came with the build you are using. (It seems like a lot of toolkits are flashing non-matching stock recoveries).
5) An OTA update file can EASILY be installed if you have CWM installed. See here.
6) Your phrase "unrooting and flashing back to stock" is silly, as flashing back to stock replaces your ROM, so why would you need to "unroot" your current ROM only to flash a stock ROM overtop? You don't root a device - you root an Android OS build. The phrase "root my device" does not make any sense.

How do I upgrade/update a rooted note 4 on 4.4.4 to 5.1.1?

Newbie but ive been lurking here since the evo4g days always glad there are updates for anyone to follow. lately i havent come up with one for my note 4, can anyone help me on this matter? atm its rooted 4.4.4 knox has been tripped and if it helps SM-N910P. tried searching for youtube, google, and throughout different threads. i connected my phone to smart switch pc samsung program and it detects an update for it but im too scared it will brick it if i go on that route. Many thanks in advance
xxSEIYAxx said:
Newbie but ive been lurking here since the evo4g days always glad there are updates for anyone to follow. lately i havent come up with one for my note 4, can anyone help me on this matter? atm its rooted 4.4.4 knox has been tripped and if it helps SM-N910P. tried searching for youtube, google, and throughout different threads. i connected my phone to smart switch pc samsung program and it detects an update for it but im too scared it will brick it if i go on that route. Many thanks in advance
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oops forgot to post, i would like to keep it rooted since i use my sd card a whole bunch. saw that since jelly bean not just any app can use sd card to read write info.
xxSEIYAxx said:
oops forgot to post, i would like to keep it rooted since i use my sd card a whole bunch. saw that since jelly bean not just any app can use sd card to read write info.
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Ok, pretty easy.
First you have to get your phones partitions right for 5.1.1.
To do it go to this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3252903
and follow the op carefully.
The instructions written in red a couple paragraphs down in the the thread has the link you need to get your phone to 5.1.1.
After that you can flash any rom in this forum you'd like.
Good luck and don't forget to give @tx_dbs_tx a big thanks (and any thing else you'd like) for the commitment and hard work he has done for us all.
jhill110 said:
Ok, pretty easy.
First you have to get your phones partitions right for 5.1.1.
To do it go to this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3252903
and follow the op carefully.
The instructions written in red a couple paragraphs down in the the thread has the link you need to get your phone to 5.1.1.
After that you can flash any rom in this forum you'd like.
Good luck and don't forget to give @tx_dbs_tx a big thanks (and any thing else you'd like) for the commitment and hard work he has done for us all.
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thanks so much, i might have messed up i pull up supersu and it tells me "there is no su binary installed and supersu cannot install it. this is a problem!" - i dont know if i really need this, i mainly rooted jelly bean note 4 to get sd card access on my 3rd party apps and it works as is right now
also it keeps bugging me if i want to install a 150.16MB update N910PVPS4COK1/N910PSPT4COK1/N910PVPS4COK1 - should i just go ahead and install it?
other than that everything seems to be working, faster and better than before.
xxSEIYAxx said:
thanks so much, i might have messed up i pull up supersu and it tells me "there is no su binary installed and supersu cannot install it. this is a problem!" - i dont know if i really need this, i mainly rooted jelly bean note 4 to get sd card access on my 3rd party apps and it works as is right now
also it keeps bugging me if i want to install a 150.16MB update N910PVPS4COK1/N910PSPT4COK1/N910PVPS4COK1 - should i just go ahead and install it?
other than that everything seems to be working, faster and better than before.
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First of, don't take the ota just yet. Wait for comments about it first. If your on a custom rom you shouldn't be getting that update notification.
Which rom are you on when you get the SuperSU message?
If you are now up to 5.1.1 and flashed a custom rom you don't need to root.
Explain a little what you did to see if the issue can be sniffed out.
jhill110 said:
First of, don't take the ota just yet. Wait for comments about it first. If your on a custom rom you shouldn't be getting that update notification.
Which rom are you on when you get the SuperSU message?
If you are now up to 5.1.1 and flashed a custom rom you don't need to root.
Explain a little what you did to see if the issue can be sniffed out.
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Yeah i followed the instructions in full of the thread you connected me to. im on 5.1.1 stock, i flashed the odexed version tx_dbs_tx placed on there.
i dont really flash any other rom in there that isnt stock since i know most have issues recognizing the spen
if it helps software version im on is N910PVPU4COJ6
hardware version N910P.05
the supersu message i mentioned earlier only appears if i hit the supsu app
xxSEIYAxx said:
Yeah i followed the instructions in full of the thread you connected me to. im on 5.1.1 stock, i flashed the odexed version tx_dbs_tx placed on there.
i dont really flash any other rom in there that isnt stock since i know most have issues recognizing the spen
if it helps software version im on is N910PVPU4COJ6
hardware version N910P.05
the supersu message i mentioned earlier only appears if i hit the supsu app
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for the full steps on what i did is
Odin flash the stock OJ6 rom tar using odin on your PC. on that step it took forever it build the library and then i just made sure i was able to connect to usb for the next step.
i went ahead and placed the downloaded sprint stock rom onto my external
went to the recovery mode i wiped my internal 3 times
then i hit the apply update on external i believe is the option i chose (the way he explained on the thread was way different from what i had, i mean the wording). i selected the sprint stock and it hung up for a while on the sprint spark, built library again and phone was as if it was brand new asking me to signin google.
it downloaded all my previous apps even the sprint crap ( i was able to uninstall those) other than updating the apps and messing around w them i really havent done much else. bluetooth works as well as texting and calls, wifi too
Well, you can be sure if @tx_dbs_tx released a rom it's darn near perfect. His roms come prerooted.
If you are still having supersu issues do a wipe and install any of his roms. They don't have issues... I've been using his roms for over a year and have found problems are usually user created.

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