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Buying TP2 from US to use in UK?

Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.

Go Vodafone. Far better customer service than o2. Was a loyal o2 customer for about 5 years and was sick of not being able to understand indian accents on customer support. Gave up went to vodafone, got TP2. Profit.
As for the bands I am unsure. Just my input about netwroks. Sorry if it wasnt what you wanted.

I believe that that T-Mobile US version is compatible and the AT&T Version (which isn't out yet) definitely is. None of the US versions have front cameras, though. You will also need to find someone with AT&T that will request the unlock code for you (unless you find it unlocked on eBay).

Thanks for your quick response!
I tried going via Vodafone but the TP2 is currently only available to business customers. And because I have only moved house last month they rejected my application (didn't pass their credit check, apparently, despite having not missed a single credit payment, ever, in my life...). They did say I can apply again in 3 months, but I don't think I can wait that long, as I've been eye-ing the TP2 for like 3 months, waiting for my O2 contract to end!
I hear that the TP2 in the states are getting a regular 3mm plug for audio, which is a plus, but loses the front camera... hmm, trade offs! But at the risk of them incompatibility... perhaps a UK version is in order...

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/
there you go

yep go to MPD get a unlocked unbranded with a voda contract thats what i did £25 for the phone and 750 mins 250 text unlimited internet for £33 a month

Thirding MPD, 25 quid contract 18 months + web and walk.
Paid £50 for the phone. This gets a pristine unlocked oem phone which can be invaluable later on when the roms etc start coming out!
As far as the bands go- Im pretty sure you will be fine- if you have a look at this list:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/com...[0]=3478&phones[1]=2879&phones[2]=1590&area=2
It compares the Euro TP2 with the US touch pro and a sidekick (which should give a fair indication of what bands are used)
This site gives the bands and coverage for a load of networks over the pond so you should be able to check if you will get service:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml

The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...

solsearch said:
The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...
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Thanks that is very helpful. I think I will follow the advice of others and go with MPD for a new contract. Thanks again everyone! I cant wait to get my hands on the TP2.

If you are calling them, persist in re-dialing - don't bother leaving a message - it's worth it.
I dealt with Lucy - excellent service.

CuteCutie said:
Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.
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When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.

At0mAng said:
When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.
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AT&T's HTC phones with 3G all have 2100MHz, I am sure the Tile 2 (Touch Pro 2 for AT&T) will also. This means it will work with European 3G as well as AT&T 3G.

I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).

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I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).
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Thats the T-Mobile version with the different 2100MHz. It has 1700MHz and 2100MHz, one for download and one for uplink. The European 2100MHz is 2100MHz for both downlink and uplink. The 2100MHz included on AT&T handsets is the European 2100MHz and not the T-Mobile version (which is referred to as 1700MHz to get around confusion).
The T-Mobile version's specifications list 1700MHz/2100MHz. I do not know if they are referring only to their bands where one is downlink and one is uplink or if they mean 1700MHz (1700MHz/2100MHz) AND European 2100MHz. I would bet that it includes European 3G but I am not positive.

Sorry, my bad. I get those companies mixed up

Yes I have been worried about the whole slightly different band and therefore it may or may not work in Europe!
I am having trouble with phone contracts at the moment because I have just moved home so my credit rating is completely annhilated and it just takes too long for the credit company to sort it out. In the end I have used eBay and bought a Vodafone branded TP2. I am sticking with O2 simplicity SIM at the moment as a rolling 30 day contract. I've not had too much trouble with O2 customer service, I always seem to get non-Indian, English speaking folks, but retention line was unprepared to make any offer at all which baffled me!
Anyway, onto the exciting (and somewhat scary prospect!) of getting to grips with Hard SPL and custom Roms!
PS, sorry At0mAng I got your message too late! I was thinking of California.

Black HTC Desire - Work in Australia?

Hey,
I know less than I'd like about networks and what bands work where and what you need to use a phone in Aus, so I'm hoping one of you gents could help me out?
I'm just wondering if I buy this:
http://www.portagadgets.com/australia/product.php?productid=38238&cat=0&page=1
If it will work with my Vodafone sim here in Australia?
Cheers guys.

That link is dead

Wow ok yeah. They must have run out, I guess?

Telstra - 850MHz and 2100MHz
All other carriers 900MHz and 2100Mhz.
Two model of desire:
1. A8181 - 900MHz and 2100Mhz
2. A8183 - 850MHz and 2100MHz
Currently if you buy a desire locally it will be (2) because of Telstras exclusive deal with HTC. You can use this on networks other than Telstra on their 2100MHz networks in major cities, but when this tries to fall back to their rural 900Mhz networks you wont get 3G.
If you get a Desire overseas it will be (1). It will safely work on all non-Telstra netorks. It will also have the advantage of not having Telstra branded firmware, which is cleaner and you will not have to wait for Telstra to release custom firmware.
You can get (1) through grey importers such as mobicity.com.au, but the warranty will be through them, not HTC.
Hope this clears things up for you.

Thanks for all that info, that's what I was after
The link is back up, the only thing that concerns me is the differnt 3G freq listed between the black and brown models. But the serial is A8181 so I'll trust that.
Now whether I trust the site is another thing. The only Black Desires were from Orange in the UK, and this is the ONLY place I've seen unlocked versions for sale online, I'm not sure if I'll actually be getting a black one. Their customer service is pretty shoddy, reviews are mixed and all the bad reviews play right into the issues I'm afraid of (misrepresenative stock, not being able to return/exchange)
Anyone had any experience with them?

Which defy to buy?

I'm considering purchasing the Defy. (completely in love with the idea of a waterproof phone)
I live in US and have AT&T. Seen topics about the T-Mobile version working on AT&T's 3G bands.
I plan on purchasing one from eBay and my question is, should I get the american "T-Mobile" version or should I get a European version. Which one has more/better roms available? Does the European version work on AT&T 3G? I'm a fan of the all black UK version as well. Are there any other hardware differences besides color of the phone?
Thanks alot! Hope to be visiting these defy forums more often!

Ok, if you buy the American (T-Mo?) you should be able to use it on AT&T 3G through the 850 freq, and of course, on T-Mo.
http://androidforums.com/t/217819-t-mo-motorola-defy-working-t-3g-850-band-only.html
You will also be able to use it on the most common international freq, 2100. Looked at the Euro spec phone on the Moto site and they do not appear to be able to work on any USA 3G.
The USA T-Mo branded phone seems to be far less likely to developed the "failed earpiece", if that is even still an issue with current production.
Also, there is a thread with people complaining that the all black phone is structurally "cheaper". Maybe it's an appearance thing. Of course, the T-mo branded phone comes with wifi calling which you cannot use on AT&T... but should you ever switch...

Awesome! Thank you very much for the information.

lospulpo said:
Awesome! Thank you very much for the information.
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Remember, I'm only passing on info on the 850 band but have never tried myself.

AT&T 3G Problem

I have rooted and installed CM7 on my Defy. I bought an unlocked Defy from ebay after a google search revealed that it would work with ATT.
So far, I am only able to connect to the EDGE network and only make calls. I can't get text messages to work, but I can get about 40kbps when I run the speedtest app. Anyone have any insight? Thanks.

The Defy from T-Mobile is not compatiple with AT&T 3g bands. Also your texting problem is connected to your APN settings not being correct.
You are correct, sorry I meant to say that the 850 band is the only one reported working

Several other forums report that the 850 band works on ATT 3G.

a tmobile defy definitely works on att. I am on one right now.
did you check the band changer? since you're on edge you should be on the correct bands. maybe the person sold you a non tmobile defy?
also i've seen a 3g fix floating around but i'm not sure what it's for.
with my tmo defy that was unlocked i just popped in my sim and it worked. when i changed to cm7 i had to change the bands and then it worked.

It is a non t-mob defy.
Or at least I suspect this based on the European style plug.
Which baseband are you using?

i am using the americas us t-mo 3.4.2-107-4

White Docomo Gnex from newegg on Tmo 3g/4g?

I've read on the tmobile forums that people have had problems using international versions of the gnex on tmobile's 3g/4g. I guess some of the models are only quadband and that the us model is pentaband? I wanted to get the white one. smGGsm(dot)com says the one they are selling doesn't work with tmo 3g.
I've been looking to order a white one from newegg. From what I understand newegg imports the Docomo model, which is from hong kong I believe.
quoted from newegg -"GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
UMTS 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 MHz"
Judging by that it should work, since tmo 3/4g is 1700/2100, am I right?

All of the GSM models are pentaband and will work on T-Mobile fully (yes 1700/2100mhz)
Docomo is a Japanese carrier. They're imported from Japan and SIM unlocked then resold.
I personally wouldn't recommend a Docomo model unless you're getting a fantastic deal. You don't get a warranty with these models and many people have been having problems with the SIM unlock not sticking when resetting and flashing ROMs on the device. The GNex is available from the Play Store perfect and unlocked for $350, why risk it with anyone else and not even get a warranty? If you must have a white one, you can buy the white housing and swap it yourself.

Well, my plan was to get it and just flash the yakju firmware on it so I can get the updates from google and then leave it pretty much stock. Are people having issues with the sim unlock when doing this?

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GateCityRadio said:
Well, my plan was to get it and just flash the yakju firmware on it so I can get the updates from google and then leave it pretty much stock. Are people having issues with the sim unlock when doing this?
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I bought the Docomo few weeks before Google started to sell it directly at Play. No problems except mine came with the generic IMEI. I made the mistake of trying Google Wallet before properly changing back to unique IMEI & now I'm "banned" from using Google Wallet on my GNex.
"4G" works just fine on T-Mobile, but I agree with the other poster that I would definitely go direct from Google if I were you. I just didn't have that option when I purchased mine...
Otherwise, a fantastic purchase. I upgraded from N1 and no regrets..I am annoyed by the GPS problem that is plaguing people (including me) for the last several days.

pedroc23 said:
I bought the Docomo few weeks before Google started to sell it directly at Play. No problems except mine came with the generic IMEI. I made the mistake of trying Google Wallet before properly changing back to unique IMEI & now I'm "banned" from using Google Wallet on my GNex.
"4G" works just fine on T-Mobile, but I agree with the other poster that I would definitely go direct from Google if I were you. I just didn't have that option when I purchased mine...
Otherwise, a fantastic purchase. I upgraded from N1 and no regrets..I am annoyed by the GPS problem that is plaguing people (including me) for the last several days.
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is the GPS problem specific to the Docomo phone?