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what homepage do you use?

i'm bored of my current homepage, does anyone have any good ideas for a homepage?
i was thinking that it might be a good idea to set my bookmarks as my homepage? bit like opera does.

kinkade said:
i'm bored of my current homepage, does anyone have any good ideas for a homepage?
i was thinking that it might be a good idea to set my bookmarks as my homepage? bit like opera does.
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ahem, good people i know you must have wonderful ideas, please share them

Gmail. Because the Android Gmail app sucks

bemymonkey said:
Gmail. Because the Android Gmail app sucks
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thats a pretty good idea, i only use gmail web for copy paste at the moment, the new 2.2 client is actually pretty ok

kinkade said:
thats a pretty good idea, i only use gmail web for copy paste at the moment, the new 2.2 client is actually pretty ok
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Hmmm, I can't open any links to this forum in E-mail topic reply notifications because the Gmail app thinks they're quoted text and doesn't show the whole link... pretty crappy if you ask me

bemymonkey said:
Hmmm, I can't open any links to this forum in E-mail topic reply notifications because the Gmail app thinks they're quoted text and doesn't show the whole link... pretty crappy if you ask me
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my god you are right, i hadnt really noticed that before, its going to really bug me now.
on the plus side i just found out that you can copy paste in the new gmail client. with one hand they give and with the other they take away.

Sorry about that.
And they didn't take anything away - the links not working has been present since I've been using Android (since 2.0)
As for the homepage... you might try iGoogle. Customizable and works well in the Webkit browser

yup igoogle is not a bad idea at all.

Any new news on Skype for mango?

Does anyone have ANY updates on the Skype app for mango?
I haven't heard anything but I'm thinking they're going to release it when they release mango to the GP and begin their media blitz.
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Mushroom management courtesy of Microsoft...

Yes, what happened to Skype on Mango? And also, what happened to Google+ on WP7?

People use google +?
I don't think Skype will be in at launch, but maybe something that will be either added via app or next release?
But new Mango phones I believe will get Tango, an already popular cross-platform video calling app.

tiny17 said:
People use google +?
I don't think Skype will be in at launch, but maybe something that will be either added via app or next release?
But new Mango phones I believe will get Tango, an already popular cross-platform video calling app.
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they said skype APP will be released this fall. So far no announcements have been made

Lol, some of these questions are phrased as though Mango is even released yet. Only a small percentage of users have Mango, and the majority of that percentage are on here... We aren't supposed to have it yet. It was announced, and I suspect when Mango does go live, we'll see more official announcements, especially from launch partners... 4Sq, Twitter, FB, etc.
What I'm most curious about is what they're going to do about the "check-in" feature in WinPhone considering that FB Places is going away. I hope it changes to a 4Sq system.

FiyaFleye said:
Lol, some of these questions are phrased as though Mango is even released yet. Only a small percentage of users have Mango, and the majority of that percentage are on here... We aren't supposed to have it yet. It was announced, and I suspect when Mango does go live, we'll see more official announcements, especially from launch partners... 4Sq, Twitter, FB, etc.
What I'm most curious about is what they're going to do about the "check-in" feature in WinPhone considering that FB Places is going away. I hope it changes to a 4Sq system.
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Doesn't the check-in feature use Bing and not FB places? I wouldn't mind having 4sq implemented into the Me tile, however.
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jallenashley said:
Doesn't the check-in feature use Bing and not FB places? I wouldn't mind having 4sq implemented into the Me tile, however.
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I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places

FiyaFleye said:
I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places
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It is Facebook places. And it's not gonna be replaced by anything else. I don't remember the articles about it completely, but what I actually do recall is, that Facebook is not gonna abandon the places feature. They're just changing something about it. Whatsoever they change, it doesn't have any impact on the check-in functionality of Windows Phone.

They aren't "abandoning" FB Places, but they are replacing it with a new "Nearby" feature. And it sounds like it may not have a "check-in" capability that works the same way that Places does. So I think there may be some fallout for WP7 check-in.

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They aren't "abandoning" FB Places, but they are replacing it with a new "Nearby" feature. And it sounds like it may not have a "check-in" capability that works the same way that Places does. So I think there may be some fallout for WP7 check-in.
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According to the facebook guys, this won't happen. But honestly, who cares? I know just a handful of people who actually use this feature.

skype isnt available for mango yet, but other cool mango apps are.

dkp1977 said:
According to the facebook guys, this won't happen. But honestly, who cares? I know just a handful of people who actually use this feature.
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Then maybe they need to get their stories straight . The details I posted were taken from a TechCrunch article, which was based on a briefing they had with one of the "product leads" at FB.

FiyaFleye said:
I've never used it, but I always thought it was Facebook places
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It is FB places. Sorry guys... I just saw the WP logo and assumed it was a Bing check-in.
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Back to the original point though, this would be much more useful as a Foursquare check in lol

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Then maybe they need to get their stories straight . The details I posted were taken from a TechCrunch article, which was based on a briefing they had with one of the "product leads" at FB.
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I honestly wish I could remember where exactly I read about it. I think it was WPCentral. Not too sure though, sorry. :/
@FiyaFleye
Wasn't the original point about Skype? But I share your thoughts. Having a native Foursquare check-in would be truly nice.

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Wasn't the original point about Skype? But I share your thoughts. Having a native Foursquare check-in would be truly nice.
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Yeah, I think a few of us kind of derailed the thread a bit , but I agree. Integrated Foursquare support would be very cool. That is one app that I use multiple times every day.
Oh, and back on topic. we know that Skype is coming very soon. Initially it will be in app form (very likely before the end of the year), but eventually it will be integrated.

mango apps available?
HTC DAP said:
skype isnt available for mango yet, but other cool mango apps are.
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hmm i cant find many or and thing cool, maybe we shoudl start a thread on it

Skype will show up when we have devices with front cameras.

RoboDad said:
Yeah, I think a few of us kind of derailed the thread a bit , but I agree. Integrated Foursquare support would be very cool. That is one app that I use multiple times every day.
Oh, and back on topic. we know that Skype is coming very soon. Initially it will be in app form (very likely before the end of the year), but eventually it will be integrated.
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Lots of people use Foursquare daily. I used to use it several times a day, even tho I didn't know anyone else who used it.
I don't think they should waste time on Foursquare integration. Time would be better spend integrating DMs and FB Offline Messages into the Messaging or Email Hub, IMO.
I think they should have put a different pane in the Email Client with an option for us to Auto-Filter emails from integrated Social Networks into that, so that those of us who want faster (consistently faster) notifications could send them to email and get them fast. People Hub still doesn't support PUSH from what I've read/seen and since Hotmail/the email client doesn't support Labels like GMail it's a real ***** to organize stuff... Really, really, annoying.

Why are IM clients still terrible on WP7?

I thought Mango was suppose to bring full support for IM clients? Yet IM+ and WhatsApp are still awful. WhatsApp is such an incredible app on iOS and Android, using it on WP7 makes me cry literally on what monstrosity they've created. I get a toast notification for a new message, I click it and it takes a good 3-4 seconds for message window to open (why not instantly?) and it takes nearly 10-15 seconds for the new message to appear. It's the exact same behavior in IM+. It's very laggy and very choppy and a far cry from the general smoothness of Mango.
So can someone tell me why this is?

Developers are human beings prone to imperfection. Give it time, allow them to learn the ropes of this new platform and iron out the kinks.

The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.

Peew971 said:
The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.
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i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...

blanket said:
i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
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Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO

blanket said:
i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
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I (and others) updated twice and still haven't lost WLM. The way I understand it, as long as you update and don't reinstall it stays there. But just in case you're unlucky I'm not telling you to go ahead and do it
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Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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I actually like having dedicated apps for IM, same for twitter. The only app I've stopped using is facebook because the implementation is quite complete in WP7.
I would say it's probably down to UI for me, I find IM+ easier to manage than the built-in messaging for whatever reason (same for twitter) but they really need to upgrade it to Mango.

Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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Agreed, the marketplace is depressing and the APIs were released ages ago.
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Agreed. Not sure what more MS could do to entice developers. They will even write your code for you ffs. We need developers to show some initiative, or will we have to wait for Windows 8 & WP8 integration to get it?

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Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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How much faster could the app switching be lol
I say give it some time. I am expecting we'll soon see apps like the announced Skype, Tango, Spotify apps etc. Mango hasn't even reached 100% roll out yet. Perhaps too they're waiting till the Gen 2 phones launch in the US.
Just within the last few days apps like LastFM, iHeartRadio, Tunein Radioa and Vevo got background audio streaming, pinnable stations and yes fast app switching So I think the pace is fine in terms of current apps getting updated. New apps will come soon.

This is going off-topic now, but I can probably guess at why developers have been slow with updating their apps for Mango.
When Microsoft released the Mango tools, they told us (the developers) that once we updated our apps to Mango, then we wouldn't be able to update our NoDo apps. They changed that, but quite close to Mango release so there wasn't all that much time to get on and update.
It also takes time for developers to actually implement the new features and APIs into their programs.

Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).

@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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dkp1977 said:
Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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This is why the heck...firstly, I'm using my outlook account which tied to Australia region for my main account. While,my main account which is the one with all my messenger buddy is tied to my US. Therefore, I can't use the outlook account for messenger. And I even tried the following steps:
1)my main account is created few years ago, and it is tied to US. However, until now I still unable to change the live ID or merge with my current Australia account.
2)M$ don't support messenger for secondary windows live account.
3)tried to move all my active messenger buddy to outlook account,but M$ don't allow me to use live messenger on this outlook account. It keep showing error and need me the fix the password.
4)not willing to create a new live messenger account as I have spent around 30dollars on apps.

Peew971 said:
@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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This ..
And lets not forget Mango has been available to developers for months now.. I think like 3 months already.
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Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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It dosent have that functionality..

Peew971 said:
@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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What lack of new apps? We're at 33k

madmaximillian said:
Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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For most people the point of instant messaging is simply that it doesn't use text/ sms messages, it uses your data plan.

PG2G said:
What lack of new apps? We're at 33k
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your 'we have 33k app' rebuttal is like a toddler saying 'what game? i have rusty's poop to play with'..
here is my penny to keep you thinking and demand quality:
sms scheduler to automatically fire up and send sms on particular day and time.
call sms blocker.
dedicated agenda and appointment app. Pocket Informant.
a wallet app. code wallet pro.
last decent game which i didnt finish in a day was released on 5/18/11: plant vs zombies.
audio recorder to record incoming and outgoing calls automatically. resco audio recorder.
data monitor which records all ur wifi and data connection and gives a monthly/weekly/daily/yearly view. spb data monitor.
an app to collect total call duration peak/offpeak/weekends to warn when reaching calling plan limit. phone dashboard.

Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs

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Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs
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ya than stfu and dont tell people to look at your 33k apps.
apps after mango, apps after mango, microsoft will release APIs after mngo.. everyone had hopes on mango.. and now i dont know what APIs did they release.. because everytime i ask for any app i know the other person will come up with the same old 'oh thats not possible because MS didnt release that API..' bullshi*.
according to you the only apps developer can make with present API is to pin a tile and another RSS reader, combine it with flaslite and tip calculator and we have your 33K app you mentioned.

Those who use LinkedIn - Let them know we need a full app

Let LinkedIn know we desire a fully functional application like found on iOS. The integration of contact info is nice, but if you need to do things like view somebody's profile ect using the mobile site just aint right.
Similar to how we have a facebook app for additional user requirements beyond the integrated service, we need for LinkedIn.
Email them here: [email protected]

dtboos said:
Let LinkedIn know we desire a fully functional application like found on iOS. The integration of contact info is nice, but if you need to do things like view somebody's profile ect using the mobile site just aint right.
Similar to how we have a facebook app for additional user requirements beyond the integrated service, we need for LinkedIn.
Email them here: [email protected]
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Aren't IN+ Networking or Link 2iN already doing this? Both have a boat load of features. IN+ Networking is free and for me perfectly sufficient.

derausgewanderte said:
Aren't IN+ Networking or Link 2iN already doing this? Both have a boat load of features. IN+ Networking is free and for me perfectly sufficient.
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Yah, I have IN+ right now, but I would like to see more official apps, and this is one way of making them see people want them.

dtboos said:
Yah, I have IN+ right now, but I would like to see more official apps, and this is one way of making them see people want them.
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ah, ok. will email them. won't 'hurt' to get an official app from LinkedIn

Its mostly just for building name recognition. LinkedIn is a pretty big deal, especially to those in business. People not familiar with a platform don't know about 3rd party apps, they know if there is a "LinkedIn" app or not.
The more official apps we have the better for the platform as a whole.

It's a good idea, but I wonder if it will end up like Foursquare. Yes, we have an official app (and I use it), but it is surprising how many people still prefer 4th and Mayor. But I guess having that choice is a good thing.
Right now IN+ fills my LinkedIn needs pretty well.

Official applications are going to be more likely to be downloaded, but I am not sure that LinkedIn has quite the pull as Facebook, Netflix, Angry Birds or Foursquare at this point. It also depends on who is buying the phone. First time users will make assumptions about applications and have less preconceived notions about which apps need to be available to purchase the phone.
I believe if we can get some really hot looking phones that the market share will go up and the apps will take care of themselves. LinkedIn tends to fall into that category of developer. Look at how long it took them to get an official app on the Droid (and as RoboDad suggests, DroidIn kicks the crap out of the official LinkedIn app).
Disclaimer, I am the creator of Link 2iN

even facebook cant be bothered to make an app for WP7. the unofficial one available was last updated in july and its still broken. i doubt linkedIn will bother at this point in time

dtboos said:
Let LinkedIn know we desire a fully functional application like found on iOS. The integration of contact info is nice, but if you need to do things like view somebody's profile ect using the mobile site just aint right.
Similar to how we have a facebook app for additional user requirements beyond the integrated service, we need for LinkedIn.
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Give me an idea what Linkedin is and does, if you don't mind?

I use Link 2in and it works pretty good. It also lists your connections just like the WP people hub.

MartyLK said:
Give me an idea what Linkedin is and does, if you don't mind?
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Its a networking community for business (worlds largest professional network). Basically Facebook for Business.
You use it to make professional networking connections. This can be used for getting clients, getting jobs, maintaining your business ect.
I can't tell you how often I've obtained new client relationships, or gotten work from people seeing my connections to somebody else through LinkedIn and inquiring into my services. Many companies are using LinkedIn to search for potential employees as well.
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RoboDad said:
It's a good idea, but I wonder if it will end up like Foursquare. Yes, we have an official app (and I use it), but it is surprising how many people still prefer 4th and Mayor. But I guess having that choice is a good thing.
Right now IN+ fills my LinkedIn needs pretty well.
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I'm one of those 4th & Mayor users. Just because it's a little faster and I like the UI better than the one of the official client. Nice to see you're an active Foursquare user though, mind sharing your username so I can add you (PM)?

No we don't need that
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kwajr said:
No we don't need that
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Thanks for your input.

Disappointed: Exchange email support

I had been led to believe that ICS would finally give sub-folder support in MS Exchange (where you can see a combined view of all your email from all sub-folders and not have to go manually to each subfolder to read mail - also, if an email goes to a sub-folder, you don't get a new email notification). Touchdown has had it for ages.
And still not synchronising of Tasks!!!!
I was really hoping to run a "pure Android" phone but once again I have to use a third party app for email.

tangiers said:
And still not synchronising of Tasks!!!!
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No tasks sync, still? Well, it's a good thing GoTasks is free and works just like a real Google app (i.e. Google Tasks shows up for your google account under accounts & sync).

Good thing Nitrodesk Touchdown is a good app. I've been using it for about 2 years on my phone (N1) and about a year on my tablet (Xoom). Is worth the money if you need good Exchange support. I need it for work so it was a no-brainer a couple years back. I don't know if Google's email client will ever be as good. It seems like Google's concentration is on improving the Gmail application. I don't mind because other than work I use Gmail a lot. I have Touchdown for Exchange and don't care if it is a Google app or not.

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No tasks sync, still? Well, it's a good thing GoTasks is free and works just like a real Google app (i.e. Google Tasks shows up for your google account under accounts & sync).
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about Outlook/Exchange tasks.

i never understood why google just didn't combine gmail and others into their app. I use Enhanced email it that works too even for tasks,syncing and other stuff.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about Outlook/Exchange tasks.
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Ah right, forgot Exchange does Tasks too.

tangiers said:
I was really hoping to run a "pure Android" phone but once again I have to use a third party app for email.
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When people say "pure Android" they mean without motoblur/sense/touchwiz. If you discounted 3rd party apps that would be ridiculous as that's what Android is all about, customization. I get what you mean, not having to add email apps or messaging apps or a camera app... the idea is similar, but a bit silly.

Enhanced Email works well. When my company first moved to Android, a few were pissed about the lack of Tasks. Email, Calendar, and Contacts is all I need and Android does that nicely.
But for a really good exchange app, I suggest TouchDown. There is also another one that is relatively new but looks like it is a pretty heavy email app.

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When people say "pure Android" they mean without motoblur/sense/touchwiz. If you discounted 3rd party apps that would be ridiculous as that's what Android is all about, customization. I get what you mean, not having to add email apps or messaging apps or a camera app... the idea is similar, but a bit silly.
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Yes you are right. What I mean is not having to duplicate system apps with third party apps. I never know if it is safe to disable the Android stock email (and risk disruption to my email) or not and if I don't, whether I am wasting battery on having both running in the background.
To hijack my own thread, I am also disappointed we still don't have Desktop User Agent as an option on the stock browser. Looks like I'm stuck with Dolphin again....

I've been using touchdown since the g1 days. It's pretty solid.
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To hijack my own thread, I am also disappointed we still don't have Desktop User Agent as an option on the stock browser. Looks like I'm stuck with Dolphin again....
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You might have another reason to switch the browser user agent, but if it's to view the desktop site, I thought ICS had a view "full site" feature in the stock browser now to see the desktop website?

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You might have another reason to switch the browser user agent, but if it's to view the desktop site, I thought ICS had a view "full site" feature in the stock browser now to see the desktop website?
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Not that I can find.
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Not that I can find.
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I don't have my GN yet, but according to:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...0-ice-cream-sandwich-1043150/review?artc_pg=4
It should show up in the menu. "Request Desktop Sites"

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I don't have my GN yet, but according to:
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It should show up in the menu. "Request Desktop Sites"
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Thanks for that. I couldn't find the settings for this. I persevered and found them: it is only available if you are on the mobile version of a web page, it isn't an option if you are not.
Thanks again.
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Everybody says touchdown, but touchdown is not linked to phone's contacts, calenders etc. etc.
There is no sense for me in using touchdown, when I then have to deal with 2 calenders, 2 contact databases etc.
When I add a contact in touchdown, it does not put this contact to the phone's contacts. When I put something into my agenda, it doesn't put it the phone's agenda.
ICS ms Exchange support is really disappointing.
The search function works only online with data connection and content search only, it is not possible to search by sender, by subject etc.
Off line e-mail searching is still missing.
As long as I have to use MS Windows, MS exchange, MS office etc. Sooner or later I will have to go back to Windows phone, as I promised myself never to own an I-phone.