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[Q] why dont people cook roms ?

ok so i just got the lg expo and i am coming from the htc hd2 and i must say i am very dissapointed that there are not more cooked roms for the expo. and to be honest im not really sure what exactly the dragon rom does? i got my expo already loaded with it and dont see anything different. i mean with the hd2 there were roms that looked nothing like stock and ran just amazing but there is nothing for the expo.....why? why dont we have cool roms? why?

burro breath said:
ok so i just got the lg expo and i am coming from the htc hd2 and i must say i am very dissapointed that there are not more cooked roms for the expo. and to be honest im not really sure what exactly the dragon rom does? i got my expo already loaded with it and dont see anything different. i mean with the hd2 there were roms that looked nothing like stock and ran just amazing but there is nothing for the expo.....why? why dont we have cool roms? why?
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So you didn't run the stock rom at all?
Dragonstorm is a huge improvement and much more in line with what you'd expect from a new win mobile. LG's interface appealed to a few, but most were not fans. The stock rom was also an older build (with the start menu at the top).
If you visit lg-expo.com you can find a couple of sense based roms if that's more what you were looking for, but that's more htc-ish obviously and a few things aren't working quite right yet.
I think the quality of Dark's work is a large factor in the lack of other roms. It's got everything you need and you've got room to add whatever you want.
I also think theres a decent number of people are cooking "privately". I have reasons for not sharing any of my builds so far (time, apps I cooked, etc), but fear not, I do intend to eventually. In the meantime, I look forward to seeing your builds.

I too would like to see more choices in the expo rom section; But I do quite like darks rom.

But see what I don't understand is what is different? I never ran the stock rom but this dragon rom seriously feels stock to me. I mean the hd2 stock rom was better then this. I'm NOT saying it's a poor quality rom and I do want to be clear that this rom does work well. But I'm used to having loads of style and setup options and customized themes out the wazoo. So I seriously look forward to some sweet Roms in the future.

Dark's ROMs are built to improve speed, memory, GPS, etc. He lays out a great foundation for you to add apps. If you add to much in your ROM, it will gobble up all the phone mempry. These ROM are fast and free up phone memory. The stock ROM were bogged down by useless apps. If your looking for a more flashy ROM there is a touchflow ROM at lg-expo.com

phatride4ever said:
Dark's ROMs are built to improve speed, memory, GPS, etc. He lays out a great foundation for you to add apps. If you add to much in your ROM, it will gobble up all the phone mempry. These ROM are fast and free up phone memory. The stock ROM were bogged down by useless apps. If your looking for a more flashy ROM there is a touchflow ROM at lg-expo.com
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More stuff in rom does NOT equal more ram used up. more services and more stuff running equals more ram used. Just make sure to keep that clear yes ATT bloat does use up more ram but its not the fact that it uses more rom space its that it runs more programs.

burro breath said:
But see what I don't understand is what is different? I never ran the stock rom but this dragon rom seriously feels stock to me. I mean the hd2 stock rom was better then this. I'm NOT saying it's a poor quality rom and I do want to be clear that this rom does work well. But I'm used to having loads of style and setup options and customized themes out the wazoo. So I seriously look forward to some sweet Roms in the future.
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You're trying to compare a HTC device's ROM to an LG device's ROM. Obviously they are going to be different. You can't really compare the two, stock or otherwise especially when the stock HD2 comes with Sense and the eXpo stock has the LG Idles instead.
Like posted before, there is a Sense build posted over at lg-expo.com that has actually been downgraded back from 2.5 to 2.1. Sense was never designed to run on this device so it's pretty awesome that thekingvrock got it working cooked into a ROM. Personally I'm waiting for an Android build, but the Sense ROM is pretty nice.
You also have to keep in mind that the device itself is still relatively new since not many people were able to get it at launch with all of the delays. Plus not everyone that was able to get a device earlier on were devs or anyone that could even make a full rom. HTC devices have been out for years and the architecture is similar enough to have plenty of ROM options shortly after launch. It's going to take some time for more roms to come out for the eXpo, but it has the potential to be a pretty damn good device.

Well I'd love android on this [email protected] phone. I'm always looking here and on lg-expo.com

No stable Gingerbread on Epic?

Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?

AndroAsc said:
Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Android is by far the best medium for end users. But the major hold up is that the source code has been held out by samsung. There was a leak of the source code recently. The rom to look for is Cyanogen. These guys build it from the ground up with no source code. If you really want to try a gingerbread leak . This is a good one. He also has a 2.2 android that is complete no bugs. here is the link to gingerbread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190337
And the link to his 2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146630
At the moment I am using the beta cyanogen very close to completion. It is 2.3.7 and it runs smooth and fast. There are a few minor bugs like no 4g. The 4g was not a big deal for me as it only covered a small area for me.
Cyanogen link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299621
Let us know if you need more help

Can tell you are new. Gingerbread is still only a leak. However kernel source was released for 2 days. If you look in Development and read the OPs on the ROMs find one based on the released source like the one with Heimdall in the title. They are stable with no reboots.
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AndroAsc said:
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Yes... You've got it wrong. Hacking can only get you so far... Major version updates require source from the manufacturers.
If you want timely updates switch to iOS. With Android it's not *when* you're getting updates but *if* you're getting updates.
http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support

AndroAsc said:
Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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I'm currently running ACS' ICS beta rom. The ICS is just a launcher but its nifty. If you want a pretty stable eh17 rom w/o the ICS I used titanium to uninstall the launcher (and the other 2 launchers [beats me]) and used launcher pro plus. Makes for a stable gingy rom. I've also flashed the eh17 honeycomb explosion theme. Looks great and run awesome.
Supposedly nubernal fixes reboots... ill see as soon as I find time to flash
Lord Syrics Jr.
EPIC 4G
ACS ICS BETA v6
Eh17+ (soon nubernal)

There's always going to be bugs... Especially when devs start modifying what was most times just crap to begin with.
I strive to put out a stable ROM, but when you want to update something, something else may not always act as it did.
I'm in the midst of getting a second test version out of my ROM... Come back tonight and check it out. If you're into something semi-stock, then you'll like what i have to offer. =)

AndroAsc said:
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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For the most part, "Android is open source" only applies to device manufacturers, and owners of Google-branded Nexus devices. The latter of which have (nearly) all platform source code available in Git repositories, including instructions for building a source-based ROM for them.
Third-party manufacturers do not release the majority of Android platform code for their devices. Some of this, like custom UI code, is not particularly relevant to us. But other of this, including proprietary kernel modules and userspace drivers for peripherals, is very much relevant. Not having the source to this makes getting full functionality out of source-based ROMs rather difficult. It doesn't help that Samsung's devices are "uniquely different" from HTC and others which makes porting source-based ROMs to them painful to begin with.

Ok... so in other words, to have a stable usable and relatively bug-free release of Android OS, we will need the carriers to release some official version for it?

Not necessarily. However it is often easier to support a new version of Android if the manufactuer provides an update to it.

AndroAsc said:
Ok... so in other words, to have a stable usable and relatively bug-free release of Android OS, we will need the carriers to release some official version for it?
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No. I've been running GB forever now. Most of the issues were temp slip ups with roms or themes. The only pervasive one in all the leaked based roms is the reboots, which frankly I never found to be as big of a deal as many made it out to be. Our best guess is that it is sleep related, so in other words, it only happens when your phone is sitting untouched.
I had them quite a bit, but really not a big deal.
Install ACS ICS v6, and the nubernel kernel, and the reboots aren't an issue either.
At this point I couldn't care less if the official ever drops. (Not that I think it wont, it's just, also, IMHO, not nearly as large of a concern as some are making it.) To the extent I DO care, it's only because it will probably consolidate the efforts of the devs. Lots of work still being done on Froyo roms, and there's probably some hesitation on getting involved in any particular leak, because you never know when another leak will drop and make everything you're doing outdated.
Edit: This is anecdotal, but most of the "problems" people report are from people who seem to give gingerbread a shot for about 5 seconds. I'm willing to bet most of them restore data, or a titanium backup, from their froyo rom, then attribute any problems to gingerbread being buggy. It's not. It's fine. If anything a lot of the real not-just-whining outrage is over how GOOD it is. (AKA, the leaks are so solid, what's the hold up exactly)

What is the point of getting ICS now?

Since a lot of stuff is still wonky/glitchy, and the ICS ports are still not perfect.
Is the point of getting ICS just to say you have it?
Or are there certain advantages to running ICS that I am not aware of?
I am on ILWT btw.

Why run ILWT?
Biggest reason I run it is because the UI to me is THAT much better than GB or anything else I've used. The ROMs are stable enough, fast enough, and include all the features I need to get by day to day.
This sounds more of a troll post, but meh.

I've been running ICS since Andromadus alpha 1, and as a DD since alpha 4. Yes there have been several glitches (alpha 5 was unusable) and several things broken such as the camera, but running an alpha or beta build is what produces the feedback and usage stats the devs need to make a great RC. It also kicks the OEM's in the tail to release drivers and possibly new roms for our devices if the devs AND users can illustrate a need. Aside from that, ICS can renew an aging device with new functionality and refined looks. I've rediscovered my own aging device, and for the first time started to realize its capabilities as a real, almost tablet-like, computing device and not just an alarm clock or a way for telemarketers and my wife to bug me.
Sent from my Andromadus ICS HTC Vision using TapaTalk

It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...

convolution said:
It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
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I must say the ICS Roms are much smoother than any other rom I've ever used and I've had a single hot reboot since first DD worthy release. Battery isn't remarkable but that is cause they haven't been optimized yet, stabilize then optimize. In your case I might wait more for optimized, but hey! Nandroid, wipe, install and try it a bit, you may just fall in love !

That is sound advice, noneabove.
Yes, I do believe the best thing to do at this point is for me to stfu and try it.

ICS ROMS are great. The best reason in my opinion is for developing/ testing purposes. They are smooth and stable.
Sent from my HTC Vision Ice Cream Sandwich

i flash every update to test it but its a looong way from me using it.
not as stable, not as funtionable, not as good batterylife and right now, not the same performance.
so i use ILWT for same reasons as you until the ICS roms are atleast as good.
i figure that there are enough people reporting bugs anyway, they dont need me.

atm im using cm7.2 on everyday basis but i do like to test other/newer roms to see if they might got some additional functionality i could need..
like actualy usb host mode what doesnt seem to work on cm7.. ive read it should work from ics on so im happy projects like virtuousrom exist to im able to try

ICS & Sense - who wants to port?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438120
so where are the porting devs?
EDIT: i´m only spreading information

Why would you want to pollute a good operating system with that trash??!?!?

dhkr234 said:
Why would you want to pollute a good operating system with that trash??!?!?
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Its all a matter of personal preference and taste, my friend. More ROMs is always better. And if you don't like it, you don't have to flash it (if anyone does port it). There are plenty of custom Sense ROMs on GB for our phone, so it would be hard to believe that absolutely no developers would be interested in porting a ICS ROM with Sense.

I think it'd be better to wait until HTC releases their first ICS phone. It will contain a brand new Sense UI version, which would be optimized for ICS.
Sense 3.5 is really convenient, I prefer it over stock Gingerbread. But in combination with Ice Cream Sandwich? Google's UI works like a charm, no need for me to switch back this soon.

That link looks very promising for DHD owners, I'm glad that we still have so much support for our phone though. It'd be really cool to see Sense 3.5 on ICS.

I don't think sense 3.5... I think sense 2.1 with ics will be an awesome combo

magic_android said:
That link looks very promising for DHD owners, I'm glad that we still have so much support for our phone though. It'd be really cool to see Sense 3.5 on ICS.
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Desire HD and Desire Z came out around the same time, and hardware is similar in many ways. So the DHD ROM may be a good starting point.

Your Ideas On The Most Balanced Stable Rom With Best Features

Come On People, I want to here your experiences with the roms that suit DHDs, What your favourite is, even better why its your favourite???

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29245429
This is only one example. Read the last post to see what is about to come, a man in a cape about to say shame on you.
Sent from a dream.

But this is a little different!
Teichopsia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29245429
This is only one example. Read the last post to see what is about to come, a man in a cape about to say shame on you.
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I want everyones opinion on there "favourite rom" for the DHD, in one thread! Make it easy to choose between and to get an idea on why each rom best suits there needs in one place! I seem to be able to find this but over 30 different threads! why not make it easy I say!! Hopefully the man in the black cape can see the dilemma

http://grantbarker.com/htc-desire-hd.html
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Thankyou
Thanks Heaps!!! Muchly Apprieciated!!! This will keep me occupied for sometime
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http://grantbarker.com/htc-desire-hd.html
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I have landed on leedroid rom. Very smooth.

chrism.brunner said:
I have landed on leedroid rom. Very smooth.
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I HAVE TRIED LEEDROID, I DIDN'T MIND THE ROM AT ALL WAS SMOOTH, I ENDED UP WITH ANDROID.PROCESS PORBLEMS IN THE END WITH CONTACTS, HTC SYNC AND THE DAILER
I am using Runny Xtreme Surprise - v3.0.0, had it for a while, and it is smooth, and battery is good too
But I am looking at changing, created a few to many bugs messing with settings from rom market apps, Have to reinstall rom, decided on a change! Something just as smooth but with more options with the settings

Xeleth said:
Before Virtuous Team released their 3.0 kernel, there was no much choice for me but to go for gingerbread.
Image quality is an important factor for me when flashing a ROM and AOSP/AOKP versions never succeed
to satisfy me. Perhaps it's the camera-chip but when using, for example, LC's IceColdSandwich my images
have a lot of noise, blurriness and shakiness (same for other ICS ROMs). Touch-to-focus is something I
cannot live without as well and best support for that is found from Sense 3.5 Camera application.
Now that I have an option of going for full Sense 4.0 with a working camera, that's what is most likely
to become my new "number one". If you like your UI to be 'fluid' and fast-responding, you might not want
to install the Virtuous Infinity just yet but wait it to proceed to beta-stage. ICS is just awesome when you get
the full Sense experience with it! Among Sense 3.0-3.5 ROMs mike's ARHD with RC3D-tweaks is my
absolute favorite. It is the smoothest Sense ROM around and has awesome performance.
What comes to nonsense (he he) ROMs: I've tried quite a few of them, but the features (such as camera)
arejust not as rich as with Sense. Surely you get a better performance but for what? If you don't run on MIUI,
you phone will very likely end up looking pretty ugly with all the old version of apps and launchers from
wherever. MIUI looks nice but I don't like the apple concept, which means no appdrawer and eyecandy over
usability. If you don't mind great looking themes and like the idea of downloading an appdrawer from the
store, MIUI might be the thing.
To make it short:
Virtuous Infinity Alpha1 if you want the full Sense 4.0 with a working camera but don't mind little lagginess.
Android Revolution HD if you're not so much into ICS and like to have a good performance and response.
MIUI if you like your device to look good, not to drain too much battery, and to feel like an apple product.
IceColdSandwich if you want a fast, reliable and finished ICS ROM with stock look and a plain camera.
Hope this is any help to you. Happy flashing!
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I have downloaded Coredroid to try (I think battery power might be an issue there)
also downloaded Energized
I agree I wouldn't install a rom without all features working, Well I reckon I'll give the ICS ago at least see how she blows!!! If its not my cup of tea, I like your idea on the Android Revolution HD,

Hetherington22 said:
I have downloaded Coredroid to try (I think battery power might be an issue there)
also downloaded Energized
I agree I wouldn't install a rom without all features working, Well I reckon I'll give the ICS ago at least see how she blows!!! If its not my cup of tea, I like your idea on the Android Revolution HD,
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Have tried Android Revolution HD as well, I found it to be a good choice as a daily rom, without bugs.

Will have to try Virtuous Infinity Alpha1
Xeleth said:
Before Virtuous Team released their 3.0 kernel, there was no much choice for me but to go for gingerbread.
Image quality is an important factor for me when flashing a ROM and AOSP/AOKP versions never succeed
to satisfy me. Perhaps it's the camera-chip but when using, for example, LC's IceColdSandwich my images
have a lot of noise, blurriness and shakiness (same for other ICS ROMs). Touch-to-focus is something I
cannot live without as well and best support for that is found from Sense 3.5 Camera application.
Now that I have an option of going for full Sense 4.0 with a working camera, that's what is most likely
to become my new "number one". If you like your UI to be 'fluid' and fast-responding, you might not want
to install the Virtuous Infinity just yet but wait it to proceed to beta-stage. ICS is just awesome when you get
the full Sense experience with it! Among Sense 3.0-3.5 ROMs mike's ARHD with RC3D-tweaks is my
absolute favorite. It is the smoothest Sense ROM around and has awesome performance.
What comes to nonsense (he he) ROMs: I've tried quite a few of them, but the features (such as camera)
arejust not as rich as with Sense. Surely you get a better performance but for what? If you don't run on MIUI,
you phone will very likely end up looking pretty ugly with all the old version of apps and launchers from
wherever. MIUI looks nice but I don't like the apple concept, which means no appdrawer and eyecandy over
usability. If you don't mind great looking themes and like the idea of downloading an appdrawer from the
store, MIUI might be the thing.
To make it short:
Virtuous Infinity Alpha1 if you want the full Sense 4.0 with a working camera but don't mind little lagginess.
Android Revolution HD if you're not so much into ICS and like to have a good performance and response.
MIUI if you like your device to look good, not to drain too much battery, and to feel like an apple product.
IceColdSandwich if you want a fast, reliable and finished ICS ROM with stock look and a plain camera.
Hope this is any help to you. Happy flashing!
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I will have to try Virtuous Infinity Alpha1 as a stable ROM, I have been using JellyBeen by randomblame (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202). His ROM is working great so far but is still far from a finished build.

I have tried Andriod Revelution HD
chrism.brunner said:
Have tried Android Revolution HD as well, I found it to be a good choice as a daily rom, without bugs.
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I tried Revolution HD on my DHD since lunch time today, and I have to agree that its simple and is powerful, battery good too! I'm intrigued, not sold! Does anyone else have the same thought, that the settings in notifications would be much better with a lot more settings and with the shortcut when you press and hold down a setting in notifications, it takes you through to contols of that function in the main settings!
Something so simple yet saves so much time! I find that odd, I am hoping 7.0.4 isn't the most recent version, haha, besides that, so far impressed by Revolution HD, seems great

Hetherington22 said:
Come On People, I want to here your experiences with the roms that suit DHDs, What your favourite is, even better why its your favourite???
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Have been trying many roms and from my experience i think MIUI is the best

I downloaded and tried icecoldsandwich and I was surprised, Its not to bad once you get use to it

Teichopsia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29245429
This is only one example. Read the last post to see what is about to come, a man in a cape about to say shame on you.
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LOL teichopsia why you scaring the guy for
OP, just flash the ROMs you think would be the best for you. Generally people start with Cyanogenmod and go from there. Try the BlackICE ROM, it's pretty cool for a GB ROM. Ice Cold sandwich is the best is ROM at the moment. Or, if you're like me and want to have the breeding edge software, JellyTime is Jelly Bean (Android 4.1.1) which even the GS3 doesn't have yet (although the ROM does have one or two quirks to it
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GuyInTheCorner said:
LOL teichopsia why you scaring the guy for
OP, just flash the ROMs you think would be the best for you. Generally people start with Cyanogenmod and go from there. Try the BlackICE ROM, it's pretty cool for a GB ROM. Ice Cold sandwich is the best is ROM at the moment. Or, if you're like me and want to have the breeding edge software, JellyTime is Jelly Bean (Android 4.1.1) which even the GS3 doesn't have yet (although the ROM does have one or two quirks to it
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Lol.... It seems that I was in a bad mood that week. Besides that there was a bunch of new members posting the same questions one after the other.
In other words,
I was being sucked down an infernal abyss, until a few members posted comments, links on being helpful. Reminding me what is was to be new.
Go on over to the inspire section and test out absolution. Let me know what you think.
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Teichopsia said:
Lol.... It seems that I was in a bad mood that week. Besides that there was a bunch of new members posting the same questions one after the other.
In other words,
I was being sucked down an infernal abyss, until a few members posted comments, links on being helpful. Reminding me what is was to be new.
Go on over to the inspire section and test out absolution. Let me know what you think.
Sent from a dream.
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Lol
Sent from another dimension...
thanks don't hurt ya know?

GuyInTheCorner said:
Lol
Sent from another dimension...
thanks don't hurt ya know?
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You are not getting a thanks for a lol....
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Teichopsia said:
You are not getting a thanks for a lol....
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Fair enough,
Unlucky then....
Sent from another dimension...
thanks don't hurt ya know?

Well Seems I may have missed one during my cleaning.
Ok OP the reason no one can give a straight answer is because there really isnt one. Each device will work differently even when running the same rom. This is due to personal apps and set ups. Not to mention the different hardware in each device. Not all devices are made equally. The best advice you will get is to find a few that you think look good (lmao) and try each one out for a few days. Then before you try a new one make a nandroid backup so you can easily go back. Then make up your own mind on what is the best rom for you.
Just remember to to read the thread a bit for any issues you may come across.