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Help..cant get anything to flash

Hi I am using hardspl 3.34
I decided to put android on my kaiser as I love it on my desire..
I flashed the latest android kernel from kallt_kaffe, when booted error messages came up about not being able to mount various locations..and a final one "unable to open persistent property directory"
I tried pressing the D pad to load an Android nbh from and boot and nothing.
I have since tried to reflash both winmo and android kernel images from the sd card and through USB but nothing flashes.
If I try with the sd card, naming the image KAISimg.nbh all I get is a white screen with loading on it..nothing more.
when I try via usb it gets as far as trying to flash the rom, then comes up with a communication errror.
anyone any ideas what has happened and how to fix it.
Regards
Robbie

You've downloaded and flashed the kernel (which allows you to run Android), but have you downloaded an Android build yet?
It sounds like you're missing the androidinstall.tar file in the andboot folder of your SD card.
Find a build in this forum, download the build (should be about 80/90mb or so when zipped) and then place the file in /andboot/
If you've already done this, apologies if that was patronising in any way!
The Kaiser is somewhat picky when it comes to SD cards, it may not read KAISIMG.nbh even if everything is fine. My 1GB Kingston card, for example, is useless when it comes to flashing this way, I had to buy a new 4GB card so I could sort out a rather useless Android build.

Thanks NatAvery
I have the andboot folder with the tar file in, but as I get errors from the android kernel i think that is why it doesn't read it.
My main concern is my inability to flash anything..I have tried a different sd card as you suggested and I still have the same problem, it comes up as loading the KAISimg.nbh but goes no further.
Robbie

Hi Vampires,
Did your issue resolve?.........since even i have a similar issue. I flashed HardSPL first & then flashed a rom from then whenever i switch on the phone it comes to this screen as if loading and is stuck with the error you mentioned ' unable to open persistent property directory'
And this happen to me just like it happen to me .......in the pursuit of having android on the phone.
I'm not able to flash any other rom's just stuck on this screen.

I have the same problem. I also use hardspl 3.34
I flashed the kernel installed the built, bu i didn´t pick the right display setting..
everytime I try to reflash it only says loading.. (left it for about 2 hours)
any ideas?

still looking for a solution, please anyone with usefull info help ..

i had similar problems before, my system is:
HTC tytn ii (kaiser 130)
Hard SPL 3.34, radio 1.70.19.09
DZO's kernel and froyo 15-07 (latest thas it), NAND flashed
4gb SD card
(109mb internal phone memory after 1st boot)
Haret Install (SD card, run side by side with WinMo)
- dload kallt_kaffe froyo, extract and put andboot in SD card, root, not subfolder
- rename default-kaiser.txt into default.txt
- edit default.txt change panel-type into 2 (panel 1 got some issue with res)
- run haret.exe
- don't press d-pad (center) just yet, wait until message 'press d-pad/volume to ..' then immediately press and hold d-pad until you're in install menu.
- select install, ok
- next, select fix permission (optional, but it fix some prob)
- select quit
- let it boot, no need to press d-pad anymore.
- you may get "unable to open persistent property directory", but no worries, restart phone, run haret again, if still the same, reinstall, sometimes twice install should fix it. (don't ask me why)
NAND flash
- dload DZO's kernel and OS build file.
- use Loser's NBH editor to change panel type to 2, and keyboard type. it will then save as KAISIMG.nbh
- put KAISIMG.nbh into SD card, root.
- make folder andboot inside SD card at root, and copy dzo's android build, rename it to androidinstall.tgz (tar/tgz)
- press and hold power btn + camera btn, reset with stylus
- press power again to flash kernel, then reset after complete
- now it will try to boot android, immediately press d-pad when you see 'press d-pad/volume..' and install (sys on NAND, data on NAND), next step same as haret above.
- you're now officially android.
note: additionally you can also try 'sys on NAND' + 'data on SD Card', --> use this EXT2 partitionto partition your sd card
side note:>
zImage = is the haret version of the KAISIMG.nbh file, it's the kernel.
androidinstall.tar/tgz = the android OS files
hope this helps.
Attn: if you're experiencing battery stucked at 15% or something, go into boot menu (d-pad), backup data, flash winmo rom, charge to 100%, then reflash+reinstall android, restore data. that should fix it.

How to install froyo on sd card

So first of all i must say that im a completly noob at the android instalation on kaiser
I search for a noob tutorial but i coudnt fiind can someone post here a tutorial including files thanks

Here is the Guide in Sticky
How to replace Windows Mobile with Android (Guide) by Dukenukemx
scroll down to Installing Applications Onto SD Card using Ext2
This should help. The guide help me greatly, very easy to follow.
Hope this helps.

Its not tricky, I mean even I can do it, come on
I did edit a wiki page on this, but appears to be down, so here goes, from memory.
Backup any data first, just in case, not taking any responsibility for loss of data.
Firstly ensure your SD card if formatting correctly (FAT32), use on Gparted (linux live CD) to do this, (for me, I created two ext 2 partitions as well as I thought this would work best, works for me).
You then need the HaRET application to allow you to run Android. Google "haret.exe"
Extract the files this should create the right directory.
You then need to choose a build, this is personal choice, but I'll post the one I am testing right now. milanche's CyanogenMod 6 Kaiser
Put the installandroid.tar into the folder you created above.
Move to your SD card.
Find and run HeRET.
When screen shows text, tap and hold the center of the screen until you get a menu.
Choose install (ensure the options are set to SD).
Select Install
Once done, select Quit.
This then installs Android and can take a while, just leave it to get on with it.
You should then been booted into Android.
I might have forgotten something, as I am doing this from memory, but it should be fresh since I installed this last night.

Looks good to me, nice guide, don't think you missed anything

Thatnk you Zenity, but I know I couldn't have done this without your help in the begining when I first tried it. I know how it can seem all a bit over whelming.
I know a lot of people say 'search for it' but I did that just to see what I would find, and to be honest, I didn't get anything but that was of any use, so I can sympathis the search doesn't always get you the right results.
I could not remember the direcotry names when I wrote that at work and had to do it in a hurry as the entire office can see my magnified screen so it was a quick brain dump, not as nice as I would have liked to have written it given the time (which I did on the wiki but its down).
Anyway Keeps it fresh in my mind too.
I can only do this when I'm given the right files, I got confused myself when people started talking about different zImages. I tend to go for the builds where everything is bundled into one packing, as some can seem fragmented, ie Fresh Foryo, I don't doubt that it may be a good rom, but its deleivery is complicated (for me ).
Wish I had more time an experience to make my own build, I have done a bit of linix hacking in my time with shell scripts (getting wifi cardds working ona laptop etc), Its all interesting stuff.

thanks guys u helped me alot in the end i will instal android on an ext2 partition

Dear Leona,
The link seems no longer valid, can you tell where to find the latest HaRET application? Besides, how should I format my SD card? by special software? Thanks.
Dave

If you'd have problems with using Gparted Live CD like me... just because it does not mount SD card in adapter... here is what I did to partition the SDHC 4GB card...
I booted with HARET but did not select to install.. it gracefully fails to terminal
command: su
command: fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0
deleted all current patrition (d)
created new partitions whith calculated size (8192 for 256MB)
changed type of the first and biggest patririon to FAT32 (t => c)
written all the changes to the partition table (w)
Than you should take out the card before rebooting and format FAT32 partition in win to upload all te android boot files, rebot the phone and follow with instalation...
But I must say, now I am using Scooters Cyanogen in NAND and it it far far easier

After I choose run, then a list of Linus commands ran, then it said
:loseup:/dev/block/loops: No such file or directory
Failed
Failed to reach system.img on SD card
By the way, anywhere I can download a complete set of files for running? Thanks.

try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813382&page=31
look for the 4th post...
or this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855733
read a lot before attempting to do anything! use the search tool too, could be of some help.

For SD Partitioning, I remembered this Thread, which might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619290
Sounds like you are not holding the centre Dpad button (or pressing the centre of the screen) while haret is loading, yes this can be Hit and Miss it winds me up no end.
If you have access to a Linux machine (or boot a Live CD), as well as being useful for SD partitioning it also maybe used to try out Atools (you'll need to install python and python-tk (via the package manager)) as this will get you the right Kernels, images and configure your default.txt file for you, though I haven't managed to get the build script bit working yet, but that is down to my lack of understanding the instructions

[Q] Google Frame Work

Hey,
I got the scoot cyanogenmod RLS 4c and after few reboots,when I boot my device,its says google frame work is not responding.I cant tap wait and when i force close google frame work,all of the basic apps force close itself.
Sometimes it even says "system is not responding".
I also tried Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 [RLS15] and it says the same.
Any help?

That is data corruption. What kernel are you using and how is it installed.

Ive got 2.6.32
Ive got kernel DZO 2.6.32.I installed it via hard spl.

Thats why. Upgrade to the latest l1qu1d kernel in the thread stickied at the top. Also edit the kernel with atools to match your phone.

I got the new NBH.
I used the guide from l1q1d atools thread.
I tried using the ruu tools but it says the file is bad.
How to I install it?

Uri1234 said:
I got the new NBH.
I used the guide from l1q1d atools thread.
I tried using the ruu tools but it says the file is bad.
How to I install it?
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hey uri, use one of the builds and kernels im using in my signature they're working flawlessly on my Att Tilt, click on the word atools for a guide made by l1qu1d, its very detailed and easy to follow. Donut rls is the most stable one but its a little outdated cause my good friend warbyte has been a little busy right now, Scoot's froyo is the latest of the latest, but im still trying it, for the moment its workin nice and smooth like a delicious yogen früz cup (sorry bout the publicity moderators LOL)

How can I put the NBH in the root?
When I connect the phone to the computer using android,it doesnt work.
I tried to put the NBH on my SD but no file manager let me copy and paste.
It says i have no permission.
When the NBH will be copied,how do I install it?

Uri1234 said:
How can I put the NBH in the root?
I tried to put the NBH on my SD but no file manager let me copy and paste.
It says i have no permission.
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You have to use a SD card reader and copy it trough windows to the main directory of the SD (dont copy it to any folder) be shure its formated FAT32 and that the readonly switch isnt at the lock position. (the little switch at the side of any microSD to SD adapter)
Uri1234 said:
When the NBH will be copied,how do I install it?
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make sure you have HardSPL...
power off the phone, take out the stylus, with the stylus press the reboot button as you keep pressed the camera and power button, all at the same time! you will see a tri color screeen, then something like "kaisimg.nbh press the power button to start updating" so be obedient and press it!

Installing Android without SD, to test NAND?

Is it possible to install Android on Kaiser without SD? Has anyone investigated bundling the /system partition with tinboot so the whole thing is installed with a single KAISIMG?
I ask because I have one Kaiser whose SD reader is broken. If I could install more than a kernel, I could try risky changes to fix the NAND driver. If I brick the phone or kill its flash, it's no big loss.

No, you can't do it now, maybe i can suggest you to look after a method do dump the nand after install and use it as kaiser image

Exactly what I was thinking, but how to negotiate the NAND into the proper size partitions? Write kernel for rom and hope you get the sizes right, or make a kernel that readjusts /system size based on install and leave remainder for /data?

PoXFreak said:
Exactly what I was thinking, but how to negotiate the NAND into the proper size partitions? Write kernel for rom and hope you get the sizes right, or make a kernel that readjusts /system size based on install and leave remainder for /data?
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I don't think thats l1q1d idea... perhaps a complete nand dump, and reflash it to another kaiser.
The kernel and partitions must be configures before the dump...

I do intend to try, but have been distracted by Scoot's very stable kernel, and a very nice pre-beta that I'm testing on my HTC Wizards, Gandalf and Radagast.

This is possible, in fact there was a time where an empty img file was being incorporated into the NBH where on a windows NBH the system files would normally be copied. A windows NBH consists of a number of parts, I can't remember what they are all called right now, but they can all be merged using NBHmerge. I can't give you specific instructions but there's no reason why it can't be done, not sure it'll be much fun though!

n2rjt said:
I do intend to try, but have been distracted by Scoot's very stable kernel, and a very nice pre-beta that I'm testing on my HTC Wizards, Gandalf and Radagast.
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pre-beta that you're testing on HTC What ??

daedric said:
pre-beta that you're testing on HTC What ??
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HTC Wizard. I have two of them, which I have named Radagast and Gandalf. It's my all-time favorite smartphone, although it is obviously even more obsolete than the Kaiser. I use one of them as my primary phone whenever Android is giving me fits. Right now I'm testing H3r7 beta 2 preview where the cook has adeptly squeezed WM6.5 into a tiny, fast, stable package.

If I knew that I wouldn't have given my Wizard away...
I thought Ham3r was finished when he hit 6.1 but I stand corrected...pfft.

help androidinstall.tgz
please share for me : file androidinstall.tgz 2.1 or 2.2 but must run wifi and 3G.
Send for me by: [email protected] thanks i come from VietNam

I think with the proper memory map Android could be installed via FrankenKaiser or something of that sort. Something that addresses the NAND directly through OEMSBL, bypassing the need for a HardSPL. Of course the phone would have to be CID unlocked to do this, but I think it's possible to install via CustomRUU if the mapping was done beforehand.
I have read somewhere that NAND marked as bad in the map still gets "written" to, meaning whatever is supposed to go there is put there and never read. Once unmarked the written info comes back, but that requires a full format anyway.
I say very possible...

I have stopped trying to do this, but wanted to record my latest thoughts in case someone reads this in the future.
I think the best way to install Android on a Kaiser that can't read its sdcard is to edit the initrd then use recovery mode:
* install adbd so it gets started in recovery mode
* allow the menu when sdcard is not installed
* change scripts to look for /data/andboot
* change recovery mode to mount /data partition to usb
Then, of course, you boot the kernel, use the menu, enter recovery mode, transfer androidinstall.tgz and androidupdate.tgz to /data/andboot, then install system, install updates, clear data, and run. If something doesn't work, adb shell or adb push can help.
I think it's too much work to be worth it on this old phone.

[BUILD] XDAndroid Froyo 2.2.2 FRX06 for CWM Recovery 1.8 (ClockWorkMod)

THIS BUILD IS OUTDATED, CHECK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177721
I'd like to "present" my recompilation of XDAndroid FRX06 to work with Neopeek's CWM 1.8
No credit for me, but for all XDAndroid devs and Neopeek &co for this.
It doesn't have any other modifications apart from making it available to install from CWM, so everything that applies to FRX06 is useful here. You're the one to decide if you prefer looped or partitioned installs.
Don't try this if you don't know what you're doing. It's only tested by me, so what I'm looking for are TESTERS. PLEASE READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY BEFORE DOING ANYTHING.
Normally it would be easy to return to previous state by repartitioning/formatting SD, but who knows. I take no responsability for any damage to your device.
The instructions for installing CWM are in Neopeek's forum. Only points:
1.- My partition schema, for 8Gb SDCard, is:
1st partition: FAT32 (sdcard / Rest)
2nd partition: EXT2 (system / 150MB) Contains /system - the base ROM
3rd partition: EXT2 (data / about 400 MB) Used as device's internal memory. You can use more if you install a lot of non-movable apps, but between 4 and 500 should do.
4th partition: EXT2 (cache / about 100MB) Dalvik's cache. 100 should be enough
I used Minitool Partition Wizard for the partitioning.
2.- Startup.txt, ts-calibration, kernel and modules must be in the same dir as haret.exe, in this case inside "npkboot" dir.
3.-To move in the CWM menu with our Blackys:
Peteflyman said:
I just toggle between "Reboot system now", push "Vol Up" to get directly to "Power off", and then toggle "Vol Down" to get back to "Reboot system now". I just do that a couple of times then "Back menu button enabled" usually shows up. That's it. Hope it works for you guys as well!
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After the "back menu button enabled" you can use power off button to confirm menu selection. Just select "install zip from sdcard", "choose zip from sdcard" and choose my zip (ofc, don't uncompress it).
4.- You don't need to install Gapps, they're included in the build.
5.- After installed, "reboot system now" and start haret again. Let it work for a while without touching anything until you see PIN or unlock screen to begin using Android.
6.- I'd recommend rebooting a second time before starting to configure everything...
It should work in any device where CWM and XDAndroid work, but the configurations I attach here are for TOUCH HD (Blackstone). If you want to try with other devices, be careful to use the appropiate config files (they shouldn't be difficult to find in your device's forum).
I'm using 1337 kernel & modules from Glemsom's autobuild and it works perfectly with my device, feel free to use the one that suits you better.
Download link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SUBUG5I8
If you have any problem, I'll try to help, but for CWM problems please ask in their forum as you'll find better assistance.

Huh. I guess I'll give it a shot - I cooked a build with CWM & FRX06, was force close city. Tried to fix it, but not hard... Just chalked it up to CWM being crappy since I was able to run FRX06 on dedicated partitions no problem .

if you want to install any other build,or reinstall frx06,go to recovery,choose mounts and storage,then format data,format cache,format system (don't format sdcard for obvious reasons) and then mount data,cache,system,go back and install zip from sd card,choose your zip.
also if you find a build without gapps,go to cyanogenmod.com and grab it there,you should pich gapps for cyanogenmod 6 because that's the froyo build....MDPI or HDPI doesn't matter in our case
many problems are result of gapps missing (some builds come without them,this one doesn't) such as call rejecting or showing black screen instead of lockscreen when you wake the device,so be sure to install them

arrrghhh said:
Huh. I guess I'll give it a shot - I cooked a build with CWM & FRX06, was force close city. Tried to fix it, but not hard... Just chalked it up to CWM being crappy since I was able to run FRX06 on dedicated partitions no problem .
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Then the only difference you'll notice is that you have CWM recovery Anyway, it works pretty well for me, and since I can now write updater-scripts I'll be able to change things very easily
Edit: Now I only have to learn to compare directories to be able to give incremental updates when FRX07 and so on come out!

Eodun said:
Then the only difference you'll notice is that you have CWM recovery Anyway, it works pretty well for me, and since I can now write updater-scripts I'll be able to change things very easily
Edit: Now I only have to learn to compare directories to be able to give incremental updates when FRX07 and so on come out!
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i suggest you to take a working build and start swapping things and trying,it's not that hard,you can go @ neopeek and ask there,there are several tutorials i believe
just be sure to use a froyo build for your froyo build

farukb said:
i suggest you to take a working build and start swapping things and trying,it's not that hard,you can go @ neopeek and ask there,there are several tutorials i believe
just be sure to use a froyo build for your froyo build
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Well, from now I only want to have the /system updated from time to time and identical to XDAndroid if I can.
If I think I can add something of value, I'll make another package to make clear they're different things But for now, I can't add anything (that works)

Eodun said:
Well, from now I only want to have the /system updated from time to time and identical to XDAndroid if I can.
If I think I can add something of value, I'll make another package to make clear they're different things But for now, I can't add anything (that works)
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you can at least start with
/system
/app (add or remove apps)
/fonts (obvious)
/framework (the "look" of the build is defined here,so if you want your froyo to look like ginger,take some of the ginger files and swap with those in this one)
/media (it'll tell you what to do by itself)
other folders are build regarded and some playing and asking pros is advised here

any screenshots ?

Simon_WM said:
any screenshots ?
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It's a vanilla Froyo, identical to FRX06, so I didn't think they were needed. Just look at any basic original Froyo install.

Eodun said:
1.- My partition schema, for 8Gb SDCard, is:
1st partition: FAT32 (sdcard / Rest)
2nd partition: EXT2 (system / 150MB) Contains /system - the base ROM
3rd partition: EXT2 (data / about 400 MB) Used as device's internal memory. You can use more if you install a lot of non-movable apps, but between 4 and 500 should do.
4th partition: EXT2 (cache / about 100MB) Dalvik's cache. 100 should be enough
I used Minitool Partition Wizard for the partitioning.
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Hi Eodun,
Can you pls let us know if you are working with the original microSD 8Gb class2?
Thanks

ypsmav said:
Hi Eodun,
Can you pls let us know if you are working with the original microSD 8Gb class2?
Thanks
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every card is "original" just the manufacturer is different....eg trandescent cards dont work,what's your card?

ypsmav said:
Hi Eodun,
Can you pls let us know if you are working with the original microSD 8Gb class2?
Thanks
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Didn't change the sd that came with the device if that's what you mean. It's a Sandisk, can't tell the class

Eodun said:
Didn't change the sd that came with the device if that's what you mean. It's a Sandisk, can't tell the class
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If it has no C2, C4 etc then it's a "classless" card. I have several, seems any card below 2gig that was sold before a certain time are classless.

arrrghhh said:
If it has no C2, C4 etc then it's a "classless" card. I have several, seems any card below 2gig that was sold before a certain time are classless.
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Well, I can't tell because I'm in android now and can't extract it XD Never had the curiosity to check.
Let me see... Yeah, it has a "2" inside sort of a "C", so it must be a C2 8Gb SanDisk MicroSDHC lol

Working on FRX07 update.zip to test if it works with CWM

Hi Eodun,
Looking forward to the FRX07 CWM!
Do you think that it is required that Neopeak updates the roofts to the latests version?
regarding your FRX06 CWM, I have a quick question. It is possible to use my old data.img from the normal FRX06?
I guess that it may be possible to copy it on the data EXT2 partition but I can't access via windows XP.
Also tried restoring using CWM (I did a backup and replaced the data.img), but I get a checksum error. Any way to change the checksum to be able to do it?
Thanks in advance

ypsmav said:
Hi Eodun,
Looking forward to the FRX07 CWM!
Do you think that it is required that Neopeak updates the roofts to the latests version?
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helicopter88 is already working on that
ypsmav said:
regarding your FRX06 CWM, I have a quick question. It is possible to use my old data.img from the normal FRX06?
I guess that it may be possible to copy it on the data EXT2 partition but I can't access via windows XP.
Also tried restoring using CWM (I did a backup and replaced the data.img), but I get a checksum error. Any way to change the checksum to be able to do it?
Thanks in advance
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I don't think so. But if you backup everything with titanium backup and then restore apps, appdata and system settings (only those that appear in green) you'll have everything as before.

Eodun said:
Working on FRX07 update.zip to test if it works with CWM
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Dude, you don't need to work on anything.
Just grab the FRX07 update.zip from XDAndroid and you're golden... stine makes updates for recovery, which should work fine for CWM.

arrrghhh said:
Dude, you don't need to work on anything.
Just grab the FRX07 update.zip from XDAndroid and you're golden... stine makes updates for recovery, which should work fine for CWM.
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Confirm it updates correctly, but there are some problems with the old Kernel/rootfs.
I can't get wifi to work and I can't turn the device off.
The 20110716 Kernel is not working for Blackstone Topaz.
We need to wait...

ypsmav said:
Confirm it updates correctly, but there are some problems with the old Kernel/rootfs.
I can't get wifi to work and I can't turn the device off.
The 20110716 Kernel is not working for Blackstone Topaz.
We need to wait...
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@arrrghhh: Yeah, I know the update is available, but ypsmav noticed the problem: I need the new rootfs for CWM, and I'm not able to adapt it. As I said, work is being done for that.
Thanks for your replies
Ps It will be a big problem if latest kernel doesn't boot. I haven't been able to boot with it. Edit: But still have to check if it boots with a clean data.