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Hi--I am a generally technically adept Evo owner who would like to root to a Froyo custom ROM, but I've never had to root anything before. I've read threads meant to act as guides (like those linked in the sticky thread), but there seems like so much I don't understand. I know these are simple questions, but my searching didn't really help. I'd be really grateful if anyone had any helpful answers.
Question 1: Does anyone have any recommendations for the best custom ROM that will have these features?:
Froyo (of course)
SenseUI (I prefer it, but have nothing against stock Android)
Ability to restore my apps (via Titanium Backup, I assume)
Unlocked wifi tethering (via app or Froyo's in-built capability)
Unlocked FPS (I have a Novatec panel)
Same or better camera/video capabilities as stock SenseUI (i.e., nothing broken at least)
My current software: Stock Evo, no OTA updates applied, with Superuser Unrevoked permissions.
(That is, I have not applied any OTA updates since I bought it, June 11th. I'm running 2.1-update1, version 1.32.651.6. I did the Unrevoked 1-click "root" that in fact only gave me Superuser permissions (the Unrevoked that was first released, not the Unrevoked2 or 3 updates). I.e., I can use the wifi tether and Titanium Backup, and I've backed up my apps/settings with it.)
Question 2: Can anyone tell me in a simplest method to safely root and install the custom ROM, considering I have no OTA updates and unrevoked superuser permissions?
Specifically, I've read guides that list 3 steps (gaining root permissions, unlocking NAND, gaining "full" root), but I still have a lot of questions:
What does it mean to "flash a recovery"?
[*]When do I have to manually install radio updates, and how do I know which ones I need?
[*]If I decide I'd rather go back to stock, ever, can I do that?
[*]What is the likelihood of a brick, and can I repair a brick?
[*]Can Titanium Backup really restore all my apps after I do a full wipe and root? (just to calm my anxiety, please...)
The best guide I've seen is the "IDIOT-PROOF" root guide, at thread 701004 (sorry, new user restriction, can't post links), but I don't know if it's still current. That also seems more complex than SimpleRoot (also don't know if it's current).
I think I'm looking for the simplest root method with the least possibility of screwing everything up. (It pains me to say it, but a brainless iPhone-like "slide-to-jailbreak" method would be great.)
Sorry for the newbie questions. If anyone has any advice/answers, I'd be glad to hear them!
Well best bet for you is probably going to be either the one click simpleroot, you can go to simpleroot.com its there for download. Of course it depends on exactly what software version you are on. As far as your rom choice there is no rom that offers all of those things, probably closest will be stock rooted 2.2, then you can either live with the 30fps restriction or flash a custome kernel and live with 3mp camera .... you're choice. the recovery is a program that the phone boots into that has nothing to do with the rom at all, with this you can select several operation to make on the rom. You need recovery because you cant modify the rom when you are booted in the rom. Anyway this is all a very basic explanation. My recommendation would be to follow toasts part 1 then part 2 to root and unlock nand. (unlocking nand allows writing and writing to the system area of the rom while booted into the rom) then you will be all set to flash any rom you like. feel free to pm if you need more info As far as knowing what you need I would recommend starting with netarchy's stock rooted 2.2 odexed version. In his post he will tell you flash rom then radio then wimax, all of these files are included there in the post. Then as you learn you can switch between roms to explore what each one can do for you and decide which you like best. Yes Titanium backuop will work with this.
For me and I have flashed every rom lol. Daily driver would have to be the fastest and stabliest rom which is in my opinion Caulkins v1.02 froyo. Use simple root for 1.32. Then use the flash recovery and pick ra recovery.
ifly4vamerica said:
As far as your rom choice there is no rom that offers all of those things, probably closest will be stock rooted 2.2, then you can either live with the 30fps restriction or flash a custome kernel and live with 3mp camera .... you're choice.
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Really? How about a ROM with, say, just 2.2 + SenseUI, with all the standard features, and wifi tether enabled?
Thanks for the advice, by the way, both of you.
ScaryBugThing said:
Hi--I am a generally technically adept Evo owner who would like to root to a Froyo custom ROM, but I've never had to root anything before. I've read threads meant to act as guides (like those linked in the sticky thread), but there seems like so much I don't understand. I know these are simple questions, but my searching didn't really help. I'd be really grateful if anyone had any helpful answers.
Question 1: Does anyone have any recommendations for the best custom ROM that will have these features?:
Froyo (of course)
SenseUI (I prefer it, but have nothing against stock Android)
Ability to restore my apps (via Titanium Backup, I assume)
Unlocked wifi tethering (via app or Froyo's in-built capability)
Unlocked FPS (I have a Novatec panel)
Same or better camera/video capabilities as stock SenseUI (i.e., nothing broken at least)
My current software: Stock Evo, no OTA updates applied, with Superuser Unrevoked permissions.
(That is, I have not applied any OTA updates since I bought it, June 11th. I'm running 2.1-update1, version 1.32.651.6. I did the Unrevoked 1-click "root" that in fact only gave me Superuser permissions (the Unrevoked that was first released, not the Unrevoked2 or 3 updates). I.e., I can use the wifi tether and Titanium Backup, and I've backed up my apps/settings with it.)
Question 2: Can anyone tell me in a simplest method to safely root and install the custom ROM, considering I have no OTA updates and unrevoked superuser permissions?
Specifically, I've read guides that list 3 steps (gaining root permissions, unlocking NAND, gaining "full" root), but I still have a lot of questions:
What does it mean to "flash a recovery"?
[*]When do I have to manually install radio updates, and how do I know which ones I need?
[*]If I decide I'd rather go back to stock, ever, can I do that?
[*]What is the likelihood of a brick, and can I repair a brick?
[*]Can Titanium Backup really restore all my apps after I do a full wipe and root? (just to calm my anxiety, please...)
The best guide I've seen is the "IDIOT-PROOF" root guide, at thread 701004 (sorry, new user restriction, can't post links), but I don't know if it's still current. That also seems more complex than SimpleRoot (also don't know if it's current).
I think I'm looking for the simplest root method with the least possibility of screwing everything up. (It pains me to say it, but a brainless iPhone-like "slide-to-jailbreak" method would be great.)
Sorry for the newbie questions. If anyone has any advice/answers, I'd be glad to hear them!
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I'd like to suggest something before you actually move forward. I usually back up with MyBackup and with Titanium backup. I am completely rooted and nand unlocked but something i've seen Titanium for some reason after i grant it superuser tell me my phone isn't rooted on different roms, also i have seen Mybackup crash the sense and try to reboot it over and over in a loop. Luckily I did a Nandroid restore to a more stable setup. Some of the other forum members here are more likely than not less new to the process than myself, but I thought i had covered everything and when i did simple root, I was on 1.47, with the factory reset and everything lost my data... luckily it wasn't a lot or important. I just thought i'd let you know that it is not a bad thing to have a zipped backup of all of your apks+data, and your contacts with both programs before you go ahead. Hope that possibly can steer you out of trouble if one of them fails to perform as it should. Best of luck.
Exohart said:
I'd like to suggest something before you actually move forward. I usually back up with MyBackup and with Titanium backup. ... Hope that possibly can steer you out of trouble if one of them fails to perform as it should. Best of luck.
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Cool, thanks for the tip.
You can get a rooted stock 2.2 ROM, odexed or deodexed. Then you can install a wifi tether app. Personally, I use Fresh 3.1.0.1, I don't notice any differences in general to stock, but you should probably just try different ROMs out and see which one you like. It's easy to switch around.
See this for ROMs.
As for rooting, You can use Simple Root, but I highly suggest doing it yourself using toast's or TheBiles' guides. You learn a lot and it's the same thing as using Simple Root, but you can deal with problems better (although I didn't have any issues when I did mine).
See here for guides.
There is a lot of info on how to get around any issues you have, so be sure to search if you do run into trouble.
And if you need the files for rooting, check here.
Awesome response, SilverZero, thanks! I'm starting to feel comfortable with the rooting procedure.
I think the difficulty I have in choosing a ROM is that many ROM threads don't list conclusively whether a feature works or not. So, for instance, I presume that the Fresh ROM has a fully working camera (8MP/720P with all settings), but I've read other ROM threads that talk about downgraded camera bugs, so I am not sure if I should assume things work fine. Conversely, I think wifi tethering doesn't work, since it *seems* to suggest it isn't working, but doesn't flat-out say so...
I don't suppose some source exists somewhere that lists/compares all of these ROMs' features in a table format, listing whether they work or not, or are downgraded? Having something like that in a central, often-updated location would be incredibly useful...
I used toast's method for rooting, and havent had any problems whatsoever. All I had to do after that, was install the new RA recovery image ( was more current ).
Is this the simplest way? probably not. But, i perfer doing the method with the most manual work. Automated processes tend to scare me, 'oh, our mod does steps 1 through 19 all at once'... well, thats fine, but what happens when it fails half way through? Toast's method, while a bit involved, is pretty simple, and if something happens, you can go "hey, when i do this command <whatever>, it does this, helps?!".
as for your 'questions 2s'
1: Are you sure you dont mean, flash from recovery? recovery is where you do all of your flashing, do your nandroid backups, and wiping. theres 3 ways to get there ( once your rooted/nand unlocked ).. volume -, and power while the phone is off, hold it til you get the menu. use quickboot ( a feature of damagecontrol mod ), or use adb using a command prompt on windows ( adb reboot recovery ).
2: Most people install radio updates when they go to change to new roms. The reason being, 2.2 'code' is based around having a certain radio version, and for things like 4g, and good 3g signal, you need to match.
personally, every time i go to install a new rom, i verify what the most recent radio version is out there, and install it ( same with wimax )
3: Once you are fully rooted, there are walktrhoughs for 'starting over / going back to stock'.. but I would just use one of the rooted stock images, as it gives you the ability to change your mind. for instance, right now 2.2 isnt rootable, so if you changed your mind after switching back to it, your kind of screwed. I'm not sure if the engineering image you install for root would go away if you reverted to stock/root though, as have never tried.
4: as long as you have the phone rooted, any 'bricking' that i have caused ( boot loops, power turning off on boot, etc ), were easily recoverable by just booting into recovery and reflashing. the only way I could see bricking in a totally bad way, would be if you somehow messed up the rooting process and corrupted the bootloader in such a way it couldnt recover. Otherwise, i have yet to see a rom that will flash / change your bootloader or recovery image, so it shouldnt be an issue.
5: It can, but i've seen issues where backing up stuff from a 2.1 rom, and installing a 2.2, causes weird issues. its safer to just redownload them if you are using a 2.2 rom. Another benefit of 2.2, is now google backs up your app selection you had installed, so when you wipe / flash a new rom, it auto-reinstalls all your apps you had from before ( it doesnt backup your settings though, just the applications themselves ).
ScaryBugThing said:
Awesome response, SilverZero, thanks! I'm starting to feel comfortable with the rooting procedure.
I think the difficulty I have in choosing a ROM is that many ROM threads don't list conclusively whether a feature works or not. So, for instance, I presume that the Fresh ROM has a fully working camera (8MP/720P with all settings), but I've read other ROM threads that talk about downgraded camera bugs, so I am not sure if I should assume things work fine. Conversely, I think wifi tethering doesn't work, since it *seems* to suggest it isn't working, but doesn't flat-out say so...
I don't suppose some source exists somewhere that lists/compares all of these ROMs' features in a table format, listing whether they work or not, or are downgraded? Having something like that in a central, often-updated location would be incredibly useful...
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Here's a project that one user is putting together comparing different ROMs.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aguc0npJCrWxdEFyU2NRNG1jNnRkY2trdXBsYlJLdWc&hl=en#gid=0
imiddlet said:
I used toast's method for rooting, ...
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Wow, thank you for taking the time--you really answered all of my questions.
SilverZero said:
Here's a project that one user is putting together comparing different ROMs.
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Greeeeat. Exactly what I was looking for.
You guys are awesome--I think I know what I need to know now, and in the next few days I will probably try rooting and installing Fresh Evo or BakedSnack. I'll update once I know how it went!
Urg...Well, I did the manual root method. Everything went fine through the initial root (using the classic method by toastcfh), and through the manual recovery mode where I made a nandroid backup.
Then, in recovery mode, I attempted to flash the latest Fresh Evo 3.1.0.1. It gave me no error messages, and I rebooted.
Now, it is stuck on an infinite reboot at the Fresh Evo ("FRESH!!!") bootup animation. It just keeps running that animation, never loading up. I've let that animation run about 15 times before I had to pull the battery to make it stop. Any time I try to boot the phone, I am stuck at that infinite reboot/load sequence.
The only thing I could do was hold Vol- while powering up to get into the bootloader and redo my stock root. I redid the Fresh Evo install, and it still just keeps rebooting for 10 minutes, before I pull the battery. I'll try Baked Snack next, but I don't want to press my luck with too many flashes... Any ideas anyone?
ScaryBugThing said:
Urg...Well, I did the manual root method. Everything went fine through the initial root (using the classic method by toastcfh), and through the manual recovery mode where I made a nandroid backup.
Then, in recovery mode, I attempted to flash the latest Fresh Evo 3.1.0.1. It gave me no error messages, and I rebooted.
Now, it is stuck on an infinite reboot at the Fresh Evo ("FRESH!!!") bootup animation. It just keeps running that animation, never loading up. I've let that animation run about 15 times before I had to pull the battery to make it stop. Any time I try to boot the phone, I am stuck at that infinite reboot/load sequence.
Anyone have any advice? Am I screwed?
The only thing I think I can do is hold Vol- while powering up to get into the bootloader and have it check PC36IMG, after which it gives me the same normal root Step 1 option to "Start Update" (Vol+ for yes, Vol- for no). Will this just restore to "stock" root? I'd like to get FreshEvo working somehow...
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Try doing a full wipe, Data, Dalvik Cache, everything except the SD card. Then try reflashing the ROM. That was how I had to fix mine when it did the same thing.
Also don't forget to update your Radio, WiMax and Recovery if you havent already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6877247&postcount=98
As far as the best ROM is concerned I've been using SteelH's deodexed stock ROM with the netarchy-toastmod kernel and it's been running great. FPS are unlocked, its quick as hell and my battery life is excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743781
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
xHausx said:
Try doing a full wipe, Data, Dalvik Cache, everything except the SD card. Then try reflashing the ROM. That was how I had to fix mine when it did the same thing.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I did a double-wipe (cache, dalvik cache, and data/factory reset x2) before each of the 3 times I tried to install Fresh Evo. Same infinite reboot loop always.
Then I installed Baked Snack just now. I was able to actually boot (54 fps looks great!) but ROM Manager was giving me an error message about flashing the Recovery replacement, Wifi Tether force closed every time I opened it, and every time I plugged in the USB cable, it would disconnect about 2 seconds later, rendering the phone essentially useless since it wouldn't recharge or accept files in that two seconds.
So now I'm flashing back the stock root image, PC36IMG.zip.
I guess this isn't going very well. If anyone has any advice about these problems I'm having, I'm still in the depths of rooting hell. I appreciate the SteelH suggestions. Maybe I'll try that next. But it's definitely worrying me that every ROM I try has some major problems.
ScaryBugThing said:
Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I did a double-wipe (cache, dalvik cache, and data/factory reset x2) before each of the 3 times I tried to install Fresh Evo. Same infinite reboot loop always.
Then I installed Baked Snack just now. I was able to actually boot (54 fps looks great!) but ROM Manager was giving me an error message about flashing the Recovery replacement, Wifi Tether forced close every time I opened it, and every time I plugged in the USB cable, it would disconnect about 2 seconds later, rendering the phone essentially useless since it wouldn't recharge or accept files in that two seconds.
So now I'm flashing back the stock root image, PC36IMG.zip.
I guess this isn't going very well. If anyone has any advice about these problems I'm having, I'm still in the depths of rooting hell. I appreciate the SteelH suggestions. Maybe I'll try that next. But it's definitely worrying me that every ROM I try has some major problems.
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if you're using clockwork try switching to Amon-RA. That may be whats doing it
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if you're using clockwork try switching to Amon-RA. That may be whats doing it
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Thanks for the suggestion and the very fast responses. I'll give Amon-RA a shot, if I can install it. (note: I didn't use Rom Manager to install any actual ROMs here--it was just what I was about to begin using.)
Sorry if I have so many questions, but: What is the best method to flash Amon-RA recovery? Rom Manager seemed easy because you could simply download the program, run it, and choose an option in the settings menu to replace the stock Recovery.
For Amon-RA, there are two options--fastboot, and adb. I only have a vague idea of what these are and how to make them work.
As an UPDATE: I installed SteelH's ROM, and it booted, but it definitely didn't have 54 fps on mine (clearly 30 fps, Novatec panel FWIW), and I had the same problem with the USB cable disconnecting 2 seconds after plugging it in. I of course wiped everything before installing.
So I'm trying to figure out if I did something wrong in my original root--though it seemed to work fine. Could a locked NAND be causing these problems?
ScaryBugThing said:
Thanks for the suggestion and the very fast responses. I'll give Amon-RA a shot, if I can install it. (note: I didn't use Rom Manager to install any actual ROMs here--it was just what I was about to begin using.)
Sorry if I have so many questions, but: What is the best method to flash Amon-RA recovery? Rom Manager seemed easy because you could simply download the program, run it, and choose an option in the settings menu to replace the stock Recovery.
For Amon-RA, there are two options--fastboot, and adb. I only have a vague idea of what these are and how to make them work.
As an UPDATE: I installed SteelH's ROM, and it booted, but it definitely didn't have 54 fps on mine (clearly 30 fps, Novatec panel FWIW), and I had the same problem with the USB cable disconnecting 2 seconds after plugging it in. I of course wiped everything before installing.
So I'm trying to figure out if I did something wrong in my original root--though it seemed to work fine. Could a locked NAND be causing these problems?
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I used the fastboot method earlier and it was a piece of cake. Just move the recovery to the Tools folder for the SDK, put your phone in fastboot mode and copy paste the two lines in a cmd prompt to install it. I was bored reading through the recovery thread I linked to earlier and apparently clockwork is not wiping properly, others were also having problems with Fresh because of it.
For the FPS fix that is done in the kernel so you would need to flash a custom one.
xHausx said:
I used the fastboot method earlier and it was a piece of cake. Just move the recovery to the Tools folder for the SDK, put your phone in fastboot mode and copy paste the two lines in a cmd prompt to install it. I was bored reading through the recovery thread I linked to earlier and apparently clockwork is not wiping properly, others were also having problems with Fresh because of it.
For the FPS fix that is done in the kernel so you would need to flash a custom one.
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I tried to do as instructed. I rebooted into Fastboot mode on my phone, verified the device was seen by fastboot on my PC, then entered:
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-evo-v1.7.0.1.img
sending 'recovery' (5032 KB)... OKAY [ 1.406s]
writing 'recovery'... INFOsignature checking...
FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)
finished. total time: 2.094s
I tried to redownload the file, but the same result occurred.
EDIT: I was able to flash the Amon-RA recovery, going back to toast's instructions. I don't know why it wasn't flashed before...
I'm also not sure that my wiping the data is the problem--I wiped factory settings/cache/dalvik cache each time using only the stock recovery. I think my mentioning Rom Manager might have suggested I used that program to wipe my data, but I haven't done so...
Anyway, I appreciate the help. This is tough for me--I can't seem to get anything to work.
EDIT2: Problems solved! Indeed, I had not properly unlocked NAND. I redid the toast NAND unlock steps, and Fresh Evo installed on the first try!
My only remaining question: how do I flash a kernel? I simply flash a ROM and then the kernel? I think Fresh Evo is great, but fps2d is still showing me locked at 30 fps.
EDIT3: I think I found the answer. Flash it like any other ROM from zip. (Doing it with Netarchy's Kernel 4.0.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763 )
(Probably looks silly reading me answer my own questions, but I thought it was better to look stupid if it might help a future beginner like me.)
Just my oppinion simpleroot never really worked for me and ive read bad things about unrevoked so just follow toasts method to rooting it is very simple and straight forward, as for rom i prefer baked snack themed version it is by far the most sexy rom i have seen it uses manups theme and u can enhance it even more, its very stable and has no fps cap on it, as well as both cameras work and video recording works, im not sure if blue tooth has been fixed yet and am not sure if 4g works because i dont have it where i live try it out and tell me what u think.
So...Everything works! A couple of final notes in case it ever helps anyone in the future:
Note 1: The call part of the phone was not working well at all. I could send and receive calls, and hear the other party, but the audio was very noisy and the other party didn't hear my voice when I talk.
I tried to update PRL and Profile, but I got an error code 1012: "The profile update could not be completed. Please try again later. If the problem persists, you may need to contact customer service. Error code:1012"
I thought the problem might be me overwriting some system files with Titanium Backup (though I was careful). But when I tried wiping factory settings/cache/dalvik cache, and rebooted, still the same problems. Ultimately, it turned out simply that Sprint's servers were down, so I couldn't update my profile/PRL. I finally was able to update the Profile and PRL (now 60669) when they came back up, and everything seems to be working.
Note 2: I realized too late that I lost all of my visual voicemails. I don't think there's a way to restore them, and I don't know if there's any way to back them up. But something to think about if you've racked up a fair amount of downloaded visual voicemails.
Thanks everyone for your help.
So I've googled around for the answers, but I still haven't found anything yet.
So, here it goes.
Recently, without me making any major changes to my MyTouch3G Slide, it turned off, then turned back on and wouldn't move forward from the white T-Mobile Mytouch 3G Slide boot screen.
I was rooted using the latest SlideMeRoot image. I've booted into the bootloader and tried restoring a "clean" image, but no luck there. I can't boot into recovery.
I also tried trying to find some spot where I could use ADB to see what's going on, but I knew that was a long shot to begin with :/
Any help guys?
Probably should start off with more details on what exactly you have done to your phone firstly .... Overclocked kernel? Firerat patch? etc?
What was the last thing you did to the phone before it rebooted or attempted to.
Nextly your leaving yourself wide open asking a question or even stating your problem in the developer section.. Shoulda asked it in the Q&A section...
I would simply try putting the phone back to stock/unrooted status using the stock ESPRIMG thread floating around here somewhere...
Did not overclock kernel, nor apply the firerat patch.
The last thing I did on it... was move a video onto the SD card.
Yeah, I thought I put it in the Q&A forum, but I guess not. Forgive me, I'm working on about an hour of sleep.
If any Mods see this, feel free to move it.
I've tried applying three different ESPRIMG.zips (they all had different file sizes) and all of them have the exact same problem. To unroot, I think I need to push some stuff to the phone, which I can't do right now. Any more suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Wonder if that video corrupted your sdcard..
Did you have a2sd setup?
[UNROOT] (ROM) Factory Rom..Champion build Used for Unrooting If you need to at any Point!! - eugene_373 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713507
SD card is fine, threw it in my old G1 and it took without a hitch.
Yeah, I had A2SD setup.
I can't do that unroot method, can't access adb.
Unless you can somehow get to it from fastboot?
Dunno...
Anything else?
Do you have amon RA recovery or clockwork? Try the one you don't have and see if that one works
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
newsoundwave said:
SD card is fine, threw it in my old G1 and it took without a hitch.
Yeah, I had A2SD setup.
I can't do that unroot method, can't access adb.
Unless you can somehow get to it from fastboot?
Dunno...
Anything else?
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Try putting the ESPRIMG onto the SD via the G1 when it is connected?
Moved to Q&A. Please don't post question threads in Development.
acejoker: can't access recovery either way. to get to recovery, you gotta go through the splash screen, which still isn't working
fermunkey: did that. That's how I got I was able to try three different recovery images. None of them worked.
rolfd: hehe, thanks.
Anyone got some last resort ideas?
This afternoon I received my replacement phone from Asurion and like and good Android user, I attempted to root it with the Universal root method that had worked really well on my old phone. For some reason, the root did not work and I attempted to restore the phone to stock using the PC36IMG for 3.70 to go along with the 2.10 hboot. Everything seemed to have gone fine until the phone booted up. After a few minutes, it froze and rebooted itself. On top of that, when it does boot it recognizes neither the sdcard nor usb.
I can get into the bootloader and seem to have access to the sdcard from there but any attempts I've made to adb into it have come up with a "no device found" error.
If I attempt to go into recovery, it reboots then goes to the screen with the evo with the red exclamation point on it.
I have no idea what could be the problem or even where to go to try to fix it. I've tried searching the forums but anything I can find about reboots usually has to do with custom roms and any solutions to the other problems seem to revolve around being to adb into the phone while its booted up which does not work due to the lack of usb.
Check k2buckleys post out HERE n report back.
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This afternoon I received my replacement phone from Asurion and like and good Android user, I attempted to root it with the Universal root method that had worked really well on my old phone. For some reason, the root did not work and I attempted to restore the phone to stock using the PC36IMG for 3.70 to go along with the 2.10 hboot. Everything seemed to have gone fine until the phone booted up. After a few minutes, it froze and rebooted itself. On top of that, when it does boot it recognizes neither the sdcard nor usb.
I can get into the bootloader and seem to have access to the sdcard from there but any attempts I've made to adb into it have come up with a "no device found" error.
If I attempt to go into recovery, it reboots then goes to the screen with the evo with the red exclamation point on it.
I have no idea what could be the problem or even where to go to try to fix it. I've tried searching the forums but anything I can find about reboots usually has to do with custom roms and any solutions to the other problems seem to revolve around being to adb into the phone while its booted up which does not work due to the lack of usb.
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When you enter recovery, and get the red triangle screen, adb should recognize the phone from there. Also, if you set the phone into 'fastboot' mode, from the bootloader, does fastboot see the device?(fastboot devices) As blake directed you to another post of mine, you see one of the questions is if you are S on or S off. Whats the result there?
also, not sure if some of this may help or not, because you're phone is freezing up, but see this thread in regards to SD card and USB not being recognized.
Whatever the issue is, Z4root also causes the phone to freeze/reboot almost immediately as I run it. I think the problem is that some files got flashed during the attempted root that are still lingering a causing the issues. By all accounts the phone is restored to stock in that it reads the PC36IMG file just fine and restores everything that needs to be restored. It even says that recovery is restored. The problem is that recovery is not restored at all.
I'm quite baffled by it. If I can't fix it, I was hoping to bring it into Sprint for an exchange since it does show s-on and appears to be completely stock. My concern is that it is in asurion replacement and if they send it off, are they going to discover something when it gets back to them, I don't want to get hit with a large sum of $$$.
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Whatever the issue is, Z4root also causes the phone to freeze/reboot almost immediately as I run it. I think the problem is that some files got flashed during the attempted root that are still lingering a causing the issues. By all accounts the phone is restored to stock in that it reads the PC36IMG file just fine and restores everything that needs to be restored. It even says that recovery is restored. The problem is that recovery is not restored at all.
I'm quite baffled by it. If I can't fix it, I was hoping to bring it into Sprint for an exchange since it does show s-on and appears to be completely stock. My concern is that it is in asurion replacement and if they send it off, are they going to discover something when it gets back to them, I don't want to get hit with a large sum of $$$.
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If your phone is S on, you have nothing to worry about. Just don't send it in with a bunch of "root related" stuff on your SD card, and you'll be fine. How did you get s on?
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I reflashed the RUU to get the phone back to stock. And by all accounts, it worked. Except that it didnt.
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I reflashed the RUU to get the phone back to stock. And by all accounts, it worked. Except that it didnt.
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So running the RUU seemed successful, but it still didn't work? But it did turn you back to S on? Had you used Unrevoked before?
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I did the autoroot found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
If I'm not mistaken, it uses some of or all of unrevoked, but I'm not sure.
I have not used the files from the unrevoked website though.
Can you attach the autorootlog.txt file to a post for me to take a look at? If you got a refurb phone it may have had something still messed up by the previous owner.
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I'll get the log file when I get home from work. Hopefully there is something telling in there. It didn't really dawn on me that the phone could have been rooted by a previous owner, thereby doing something to my attempt.
It's pretty rare anymore but definitely not unheard of. When the new hardware came out there were a ton of people bricking them by forcing their hboot to downgrade or trying to root with the old unrevoked. And, you could definitely tell with some of the refurbs.
From my personal experiences with asurion, along with those of quite a few people I've talked to, they don't really fix the refurbs as much as just get them back to a useable state so they can be pawned off on someone. The minute you try to root or flash an upgrade/ota it is going to start acting up again.
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Since I'm getting another Asurion phone, what can I do to avoid it in the future?
Depends on what is wrong with it. Although, if it boots to the bootloader then odds are it is fixable.
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Xhausx, I want you on whatever subforum is my hone forum. when this man speaks, . ... listen.
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Hi guys, I've had a Bell-branded Desire Z (on AT&T's network) for some time now, but I've never gotten around to rooting / flashing a different ROM on it. Since I have some free time this weekend, I figure I'll finally tackle it. Have a few general questions though:
1) Is the method listed in the guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160 still the best method for rooting a desire Z? I've heard bad things about visionary, but every rooting method I've read seem to involve it in some way.
2) with S-OFF, am I free to flash any Desire Z / G2 ROM? or will only certain ROMs work with a Bell Desire Z? Any specific recommendation on ROMs? I'm planning on trying out CM7, then going from there
3) What is the best method for backing up my current image + a few other things (mostly contacts and SMS)? Titaniumbackup gets thrown around a lot, but I only have a handful of apps, and really would rather just redownload them then go through the trouble of backing them up
Thanks
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
that is going to be your safest way to root your vision. eventhough this is longer, there is a lot less chance of bricking your phone. the one you listed is very simple to do, but runs a high risk of turning your phone into a paper weight.
when you do have your phone completely s off, you now have every right to flash kernels, roms, and other things. you can find all of the things i just listed over in the development forum on the g2/desire z. download rom manager from the market. that allows you to back up your current rom, flash the latest recovery and so on. it just allows you to not have to manually install everything. it has the popular g2 roms under the "download rom section".
in terms of backing up everything, there are a few different options. every contact to save is linked to your gmail account, so whatever rom you flash and load youll always have those contacts coming with you. thats the beauty of google and gmail on a android device! but with rom manager, you can back up your current rom and image with that app and save it to your sd card. BEFORE YOU FLASH ANY ROM, OR BEGIN TO START TRYING OUT ROMS, BACK UP YOUR STOCK ROM. whenever i got my g2 when it first came out, i made a nandroid backup of my stock rom and i still have it. when i originally backed it up, i just named it "stock" and havent messed with it since. i just know that i have the stock image(it helps me sleep at night). jk, heh. for your text messages and stuff, download sms backup from the market and you can back everything up through that. all of the apps that you download, including the paid ones of course, travel with you between roms, etc.
i hope i helped ya out, and i wish you luck. if you have any other questions, just shoot me a private message!
Thanks for that;
I actually went ahead and used that method in the guide since upon further research, it seems that visonary was only causing issues when it was use for perm root; temp root, which is what that method uses visionary for seems to work fine.
So did that, reboot into the bootloader, confirmed that I had S-OFF on the first line.
Installed ROM manager from the market
Flashed Clockwork recovery
Booted into recovery and did a system backup to SD card
Rebooted and decided to download the Virtuous ROM from ROM manager
Told it to reboot into recovery and flash that image, wiping all data and settings
Got stuck on an bootup loop (HTC logo + start up sound -> black screen -> HTC logo + startup sound ad infinitum)
Rebooted into recovery, and did a restore from the backup (whew)
Phone seems to be working fine now
Now I'm trying to figure out what went wrong... any ideas?
K, I redownloaded virtuous from XDA, checked the MD5, and tried to flash it again.
Same problem, infinite loop on startup screen.
Do i need to flash the engineering hboot? I was under the impression that that wasn't necessary for using custom ROMs.
Still can't figure out what's wrong.
did you debrand? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
Have you tried flashing through CWM directly? I really don't like ROM Manager for flashing new ROMs and seems to oversimplify the process to allow green users to get on the flashing wagon.
I would boot into CWM (camera + power i think) and do a complete wipe + flash from in there. I have never had an issue with doing things directly from recovery and I have a Bell DZ as well. It's long since lost it's blue and white colours, but that was it's origin
Have fun!
Im new to this stuff here, and i DO want to learn about it as this stuff is very interesting to me! Technology is something i learn very quickly if im directed in the correct direction
The question i have here is about my Desire Z ( Bell Cannada ).
A few months ago we received a OTA update. So its currently running on Android 2.2.1 : Build - 1.84.666.2 CL322105, and its SUPER slow! Is it still possible to root this version?
I want to install the Gingerbread version on my phone, but i cant find instructions to root this OS version to be able to do so.
Or should i wait till the Official gingerbread Os to come out for our phones?
Ive been searching every where's for this info and everything i find is all back dated to last yr and nothing up-to-date after the OTA.
I hope this question is not TOO n00bish as i tried to search every where for it, and ether i could not find it or i did not enter the correct word search to get a result i needed.
Thanks in advance!
Andrew
Edit: NVM my question here.... i have finally found an update post within the wiki ( April 1 2011 )
Sorry for a useless post!
Thank you all for your efforts in posting in this forum! Very informative!
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Have you tried flashing through CWM directly? I really don't like ROM Manager for flashing new ROMs and seems to oversimplify the process to allow green users to get on the flashing wagon.
I would boot into CWM (camera + power i think) and do a complete wipe + flash from in there. I have never had an issue with doing things directly from recovery and I have a Bell DZ as well. It's long since lost it's blue and white colours, but that was it's origin
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heh. that actually worked. Flashed directly from CWM recovery and it booted up with no issues.
Guess I know not to flash from ROM manager anymore
Thanks.
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did you debrand? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
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You do not need to debrand to flash custom ROMs to the Bell Canada Desire Z.
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heh. that actually worked. Flashed directly from CWM recovery and it booted up with no issues.
Guess I know not to flash from ROM manager anymore
Thanks.
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Interesting, I've flashed many ROMs from ROM Manager on my Bell Canada DZ, and never had an issue. That said, flashing from recovery is really not any harder, so if it works, it works.
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Interesting, I've flashed many ROMs from ROM Manager on my Bell Canada DZ, and never had an issue. That said, flashing from recovery is really not any harder, so if it works, it works.
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Yeah, I assumed that flashing from ROM manager just meant that it rebooted to recovery and flashed it from there. I guess there is a difference.
Either way, been playing with Virtuous 1.0.2 for a few days now, really like this ROM, but I'm itching to try out something different now. Man, I can see this is going to develop into a time consuming hobby.
Plus, I'm going to need a bigger SD card to store all of these ROMs + backup =X
Oh, another noob question; I've come across a few zip files that included a system folder and an META-INF folder. How exactly do I install these?
G2 only works with at&t
alright here it is my t-mobile G2 won't connect to the t-mobile network at all, I've went through 3 SIM cards because this thing use to kill the SIM card from working on other t-mobile phones and it works perfectly fine on at&t network. so I've unlocked so it will work on at&t just to see if it would work. so i gave p and bought a MT 4G, but i still want to know if the G2 is fixable because I'm just about ready to throw in the towel this is what I've tried to resolve the problem called t-mobile they ended up saying just return the phone but i can't since i didn't buy it from them. Called them again got the unlock code. I've flashed the radio a few times. I've also just got the leaked 2.3.3 update and nothing has worked. It find t-mobile network but says your SIM card isn't allowed to connect to this network then after trying again it says unable to connect to network please try again later.
Just so frustrating i don't know what to do just about to say forget it. this thread is my last resort.
also i still have S-OFF
i used this method on my G2 just yesterday and put on CM7.0.3. the only issues i came across were because i restored everything (should have just done apps and app data) using Titanium, which put me in a boot loop. I'm dumb, so i did it twice before i figured out what was the problem. the thread has a comment about how Visionary is dangerous, but the OP responded that since it is only used to gain temp root, there should be no problems.
I searched and couldn't find an answer to my specific situation but apoligize in advance if this is addressed. I really am new to this so don't want to screw something up.
Basically, if I am rooted with the current stock 4.3, can I take an OTA update? I don't mind losing root.
Background info:
I rooted a while ago, can't specifically but I recall it being a "one-click" method. I checked with root checker from the play store and it says I have root access. If I open SuperSU it tells me KNOX is detected and I know I never removed them so I think it's right. I am running L900VPUBMK4.
I hope 4.4 is released soon, so I'm really just preparing for that day. I need to do a factory reset in the next day or two anyways because my phone is acting up and I have a ton of junk on it anyways so I want a fresh start. I originally rooted to get wifi tethering working but that never worked out for me and I really don't need root at all.
Thanks in advance.
This should be asked under q&a but to answer your question yes you can but you will need the stock recovery installed and not CWM/Philz/TWRP
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Elw00d said:
This should be asked under q&a but to answer your question yes you can but you will need the stock recovery installed and not CWM/Philz/TWRP
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Thanks for the reply. Can this be moved to QA then?
So did I install a custom recovery to root? Is there a way to check? I've tried several varieties of volume +/- and power to try to boot into recovery but nothing happens.
I'm in the same boat as you, but I'm still running 4.1.2. I installed "CF Auto Root" so I could run "WiFi Tether - TrevE Mod". From what I remember it installed a different recovery as well. I'm trying to avoid completely erasing everything on my phone, I just wanna remove the root and nothing else, goto Setting, System Update, Update Firmware to whatever is the recent one available, then run CF Auto Root again. Is that not possible?
I've got MobileODIN installed on my phone, but I swear that over the years that the "standard" skill level has jumped 10 fold since my days of rooting Palm Treo's, my Samsung Epic, etc...there are so many [xxxx][xxxx][xx] box things that I'm COMPLETELY at a loss here.
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I'm in the same boat as you, but I'm still running 4.1.2. I installed "CF Auto Root" so I could run "WiFi Tether - TrevE Mod". From what I remember it installed a different recovery as well. I'm trying to avoid completely erasing everything on my phone, I just wanna remove the root and nothing else, goto Setting, System Update, Update Firmware to whatever is the recent one available, then run CF Auto Root again. Is that not possible?
I've got MobileODIN installed on my phone, but I swear that over the years that the "standard" skill level has jumped 10 fold since my days of rooting Palm Treo's, my Samsung Epic, etc...there are so many [xxxx][xxxx][xx] box things that I'm COMPLETELY at a loss here.
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I looked on my laptop and remember what I used. I used Kingo Android Root to do it. It didn't appear to work because I never got a "success" popup. But when I did a root check it says I have it.
How do I check if I have a custom recovery?
I'm with you M5James - very confusing. Even the "one-click" idiot proof method I used confused me. Different boxes to check that I have no idea as to what they mean.
I've rooted, installed ROM's and kernals, OC'd, custom baked my own ROM's using 7Zip, I tweaked my GF's phone so that she could use it here in the States and then while we were in Dubai as well, etc. Nowadays, when it comes to things like pushing through ADB (I have no clue what that even means, I've just heard it enough that it sticks lol), all the [xxx] before the title of the ROM, kernal, etc and I just become a dear in headlights. Lastnight I tried Googling random things on how to remove root easily and one mentioned using Superuser and just clicking the Unroot Complete icon, which I did. Running random apps says I've removed root, Market doesn't work anymore (I'd upgraded to the Lucky Patcher Market is where I'm guessing the problem is), yet even though I don't have root, I still can't get the OTA to push 4.3 to my phone. I don't even really care about having 4.3 because I'm fine w/ using 4.1.2 at the moment, I'm just sick of the random pushes to my phone asking me to update.
In regards to my Note II with just installing things like custom ROM's, I haven't wanted to do anything wild to it for fear of being like the days of when I had a custom Samsung Epic...worked great OC'd, but could never get battery stats to work right, then the phone would freak out and become laggy, I'd reboot and then suddenly the battery was dead. I just want a simple root, add root-only apps as needed like WiFi Tether, then continue on being a texting whore lol.
If you have rooted your epic and installed custom recovery all this should be pretty simple. All the info is here. Its to the point where rooting and unroofing can be down in probably under 10 mins. You have to read.
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I read it all, but it's gotten to the point where it's overly technical sometimes. I get lost in jargon, acronyms, I liked it better when there were 5 REALLY good guys making ROM's that worked, not 30 people making their own variations in their basement, then it turns into a pissing match of who's got the latest, fastest, most battery efficient, you've gotta do this to do that, but don't do this if you want that (assuming I know WTF "that" is in the first place) otherwise you'll brick your phone (but you can maybe unbrick it this way), if you swallow this pill you'll get rid of one symptom but you'll get 15 other problems in it's place, etc...then I just say F'it and leave my phone the way it is lol
My wife has the note2, I have the s3 (both rooted, I'm running a custom rom). I think I'm gonna take her back to stock so so she can get the update, then I'll just flash a custom recovery and su zip. It'll give me a chance to clean up her phone.
Edit: thinking of using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086769
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