Im rooted, with root explorer, but i totally forgot where all the crap apps are located so i can get them deleted.
Also, is there a list of apps that others have deleted? Otherwise i will probably make one for the forum.
detour http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311807
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.
For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.
Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.
Atmazzz said:
Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
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Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.
So, I got in on that fabulous groupon deal and will be expecting my new note soon. I currently own the OG one, but haven't played around with root at all on it. So, once my new one gets here I want to immediately root and de-clutter. I found this nice guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513532 and have a couple of questions regarding some things. First, world it be preferable to just disable apps or delete /uninstall them after making backups with titanium? What does renaming apps to .bak do? Thanks guys!!! can't wait for my new note to arrive!
supremekizzle said:
So, I got in on that fabulous groupon deal and will be expecting my new note soon. I currently own the OG one, but haven't played around with root at all on it. So, once my new one gets here I want to immediately root and de-clutter. I found this nice guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513532 and have a couple of questions regarding some things. First, world it be preferable to just disable apps or delete /uninstall them after making backups with titanium? What does renaming apps to .bak do? Thanks guys!!! can't wait for my new note to arrive!
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If you are going to root, I would just install CleanRom 2.0. Scott has done all the work for you.
sSPenremekizzle said:
So, I got in on that fabulous groupon deal and will be expecting my new note soon. I currently own the OG one, but haven't played around with root at all on it. So, once my new one gets here I want to immediately root and de-clutter. I found this nice guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513532 and have a couple of questions regarding some things. First, world it be preferable to just disable apps or delete /uninstall them after making backups with titanium? What does renaming apps to .bak do? Thanks guys!!! can't wait for my new note to arrive!
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Hi you can use the custom rom HAL 9000. Except SPen anything else is removed, but when needed you can install Samsung stuff via the Samsung App-Store. It's fast and less probe compared to the Samsung Software.
nrage23 said:
If you are going to root, I would just install CleanRom 2.0. Scott has done all the work for you.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll have to look into that. Do you know the answers to my original questions?
First, world it be preferable to just disable apps or delete /uninstall them after making backups with titanium? What does renaming apps to .bak do? Thanks guys!!! can't wait for my new note to arrive!
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Personally I just disable system apps most of the time. If you are going to delete them after backing them up then you can save some storage but it is not that much (also the storage is under /system so you dont really have a profit. Renaming apps to .bak prevents them from starting as android will not be able to execute them. You could also name them ".bloat". It is used to make them not executable. Hope I was able to help you a little bit.
Enjoy your new tablet!
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supremekizzle said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll have to look into that. Do you know the answers to my original questions?
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I always just froze apps in Titanium. Newer devices have enough space that uninstalling does not get you much back. Renaming to .bak is basically like freezing/unistalling as the OS will not see them as installed. Which rom you would install would depend on if you are getting the wifi (CleanRom) or LTE(HAL9000) tablet.
Thanks to both of your helpful replies. Now, when renaming or freezing the app, is it going to cease to show in the drawer? Does the file directory get moved when renaming? Thanks
nrage23 said:
...Newer devices have enough space that uninstalling does not get you much back. ...
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Not only that, since the apps are in the system partition, uninstalling gives you zero back in terms of space, unless are you are changing the system partition size, which rooting does not do. In the past, I've frozen with Titanium backup. Now I just disable the the apps I don't want if I think those apps are doing things in the background I don't want. If I don't want them, but it doesn't appear they are causing any harm (e.g., don't show up on BetterBatteryStats) I will typically leave them enabled, but hide them with Apex. Apps that are are disabled/frozen/renamed don't appear in the drawer.
So im new to all this. My last "smart" phone was pretty basic and couldnt do much. I went through the root process thinking I would like it, but so far it seems like I wasted my time. I thought I would be able to uninstall useless apps and install apps right to the SD card. So far neither have worked. I was wondering if anyone could help and explain in plain simple english what I may be doing wrong or is this phone basically useless to root and just have to live with it as is? I tried titanium backup - all that did was take up almost all my remaining phone space, change my keyboard and switch my wallpaper back to default. I tried System app remover to remove unwanted bloatware - no change. I tried ROM toolbox lite to install apps to SD, I checked that box in the app for it to do this- downloaded an app to see if it worked and nope. So any suggestions on anything useful root does for this phone? So far it seems like i wasted my time on this.
Andy1058 said:
So im new to all this. My last "smart" phone was pretty basic and couldnt do much. I went through the root process thinking I would like it, but so far it seems like I wasted my time. I thought I would be able to uninstall useless apps and install apps right to the SD card. So far neither have worked. I was wondering if anyone could help and explain in plain simple english what I may be doing wrong or is this phone basically useless to root and just have to live with it as is? I tried titanium backup - all that did was take up almost all my remaining phone space, change my keyboard and switch my wallpaper back to default. I tried System app remover to remove unwanted bloatware - no change. I tried ROM toolbox lite to install apps to SD, I checked that box in the app for it to do this- downloaded an app to see if it worked and nope. So any suggestions on anything useful root does for this phone? So far it seems like i wasted my time on this.
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Heya Andy, welcome. you have a great phone there, and It just needs a little patience.
-you can remove any unwanted system app using whatever Root Explorer/manager you Wish, including ES file explorer!
-you can install/move apps to SD. the best way to do that would be Link2SD. you'll need to look around and read to get acquainted with it, but it's a great little app and it will let you install hundreds of apps, all on SD.
-to make the best use of your Root, you should install this or something similar.
-One of the best things you can do with root, is to install Xposed framework and use modules to customize your phone. some of my favorites are: Sense6 Toolbox, App Ops, Network speed indicator, Xsense, Bootmanager,,,. they give you great control on many aspects of the phone and add some very useful functionality.
Hello, I hope everyone is doing great.
I'm currently running latest stock android 10 on my G960F D/S.
I am trying to uninstall bloat apps like Excel/OneDrive/Maps, usually I use SD Maid or FX explorer with root of course, and I navigate to system/priv-app or system/app and delete the undesired apk. However, every single time I delete Excel for example, the app would reappear after rebooting.
What is the definitive way to get rid of this bloatware permanently?
Thank You for reading.
It never happen to me before, but maybe you can try using ADB. Like this
I believe it won't fully remove the apps, but it's almost like uninstalling the apps.
Maybe somebody correct me if I'm wrong
B1nz said:
It never happen to me before, but maybe you can try using ADB. Like this
I believe it won't fully remove the apps, but it's almost like uninstalling the apps.
Maybe somebody correct me if I'm wrong
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Looks like after multiple reboots the apps got uninstalled, weird bug I'm not sure.
Thanks for offering help though.
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Probably was missing busy box. Or didn't have the system rw