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Hi guys..recently I had a new firmware update.2.3.4.
As usual the bloatwares appears,so I installed titanium and root explorer to get rid of it..
Funny thing is..everytine it will reappear again..and all the bloatwares came back..
How..to remove it for good?
Many thanks in advance!!
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hinata76 said:
Hi guys..recently I had a new firmware update.2.3.4.
As usual the bloatwares appears,so I installed titanium and root explorer to get rid of it..
Funny thing is..everytine it will reappear again..and all the bloatwares came back..
How..to remove it for good?
Many thanks in advance!!
sent from Hinata's Arc
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Mind describing how you removed? Frozen/Removed totally?
I'm using TB to freeze all the bloat-ware and unfreeze if required for some function. FYI.
Same thing happens to me. Using 4.0.2.A.0.42 Singapore Generic. When i remove the extra apps like AppXTra, McAfee, WhatsApp by making the icons start bouncing around using the bottom left button in apps list, or in settings > applications > manage applications, they always come back on the next reboot somehow.
pandaball said:
Same thing happens to me. Using 4.0.2.A.0.42 Singapore Generic. When i remove the extra apps like AppXTra, McAfee, WhatsApp by making the icons start bouncing around using the bottom left button in apps list, or in settings > applications > manage applications, they always come back on the next reboot somehow.
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What do you mean by making them bounce?
Are you uninstalling them?
prathaban said:
What do you mean by making them bounce?
Are you uninstalling them?
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Yes I uninstalled them like that and it didn't work. I used root explorer to delete the files and it also doesn't work. Not sure where these apps are coming from after being uninstalled. I updated via SEUS if it helps matters.
i got one app that came after i did..
back up LIVEware manager and uninstalled the next day i saw it again
but the other stuff theyre all gone..
Check my singature for the tutorial on how to remove them, if you do it like that they won't come back.
Erm I followed exactly..still comes back after reboot.
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I rebooted mine at least 3 times on .42 and they never came back.
Really strange
They sit in /system/etc/product/applications/. Simply use Root Explorer (or any other root-enabled file manager) to delete them.
The usual bloat sits in /system/app/ but these ones are quite different.
Flo95 said:
I rebooted mine at least 3 times on .42 and they never came back.
Really strange
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I used the Generic Germany version via flashtool and this did not happen, but when I downgraded it for another reason and upgraded via SEUS to Generic Singapore, this problem happened. Does not seem to affect other versions thus far.
I think it's a Singapore firmware issue. I just flashed to 4.0.2.A.0.42 Singapore Generic and had the same issue with some bloatwares (e.g. Foursquare and UEFA apps) that I uninstalled using Titanium Backup. I had no such issues when I was on 4.0.1.A.0.283 Global Generic.
Edit: The "stubborn" apps I've identified thus far are Foursquare, Foursquare for Timescape, appXtra, Xperia Hot Shots and UEFA.com app. Tried uninstalling via 3rd party uninstallers but to no avail. Other bloatwares like Let's Golf and OfficeSuite are ok (i.e. remains uninstalled).
Previously, I had the same issue of the bloatwares coming back after upgrading from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 Singapore generic rom. What i did was to repair it using SEUS which will wipe out the phone data. After that, simply uninstall those bloatwares using the normal method and perform a reboot to confirm they are gone before proceed to root.
I have no problem removing those system apps by moving them to the SDCard, apps like Data Monitor or Data Switch and after many reboots, they never come back.
Guess you need to remove them from the System/app folder.
Have you tried removing them from /system/etc/product/applications/ location? (From one of the previous post)
I found 4 apps sit there, but interestingly I didn't get them installed back when I uninstalled them via TB !! With same Singapore Firmware!! (Just as a precaution, I removed them from the above said location).
prathaban said:
Have you tried removing them from /system/etc/product/applications/ location? (From one of the previous post)
I found 4 apps sit there, but interestingly I didn't get them installed back when I uninstalled them via TB !! With same Singapore Firmware!! (Just as a precaution, I removed them from the above said location).
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I found only 4 apks hiding in the /system/etc/product/applications/ folder, 2 x UEFA apps, McAfee and Xperia Hot Shots. Removed them from the folder using Root Explorer, rebooted and true enough, those apps are no longer "re-installed".
But Foursquare, Foursquare for Timescape and appXtra are still being automatically reinstalled after the reboot. I searched and found the apks located in the /data/app folder. Removed them using Root Explorer, rebooted but the apps are still automatically "re-installed" after that.
Searched the /system/app folder but the apks were not there. Any idea where else the apks for Foursquare, Foursquare for Timescape and appXtra might be hiding?
hush66 said:
I found only 4 apks hiding in the /system/etc/product/applications/ folder, 2 x UEFA apps, McAfee and Xperia Hot Shots. Removed them from the folder using Root Explorer, rebooted and true enough, those apps are no longer "re-installed".
But Foursquare, Foursquare for Timescape and appXtra are still being automatically reinstalled after the reboot. I searched and found the apks located in the /data/app folder. Removed them using Root Explorer, rebooted but the apps are still automatically "re-installed" after that.
Searched the /system/app folder but the apks were not there. Any idea where else the apks for Foursquare, Foursquare for Timescape and appXtra might be hiding?
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Like I mentioned it doesn't happen to me!! None of them reappeared for me and just as a precaution I removed from the above said location.
I'm having problems with these too. I can locate the files but Root Explorer cannot change the permissions of the files from 'Read Only', meaning I can't delete them.
dataDave said:
I'm having problems with these too. I can locate the files but Root Explorer cannot change the permissions of the files from 'Read Only', meaning I can't delete them.
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You need to root your phone first.
hush66 said:
You need to root your phone first.
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Of course it's rooted. The problem was I was missing the r/w toggle at the top left of RE.
Mostly sorted now... Just need rid of a the apps xtra! and other bits of bloat now... Same stage as you now. I'll update if I find the location of these little bastards.
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.
For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.
Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.
Atmazzz said:
Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
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Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.
I don't know the cause. I have noticed that it has happened on different devices, there have been assumptions if it's because of a specific kernel or rom, although it may be, I beg to differ. I feel it is happening during the Android Upgrading Apps # of # process.
I noticed that this error pops up on most of the apps that I had installed, but are not there after my update. So far with me, it happened only to my paid apps, but not all of them.
When the app disappears, android thinks it's missing, but some files think it is still installed.
Regularly when you install an app over itself, there is a notice telling you that the application info will remain. That's where the problem lies once an app mysteriously disappears. Because part of it is still installed.
Go to
/data/data/
and search for your
com.application-address.whatever-it-may-be
Some of them you can tell what they are just by the names, the others, google-em.
If you wish to keep the information that it contains for the app, I recommend making a copy of it first.:good:
Delete it
Install the application, it'll work, trust me. :fingers-crossed:
Now replace it with your copy.
Done.
Stop factoring resetting if you don't want to. Of course, if you have a lot missing, it might be better. :crying:
If someone can automate this process by making something check the com.address to installed apps, that would be awesome. :highfive:
This totally worked. Thanks bro!
I was setting up my Nexus 4, and this was Tune In Radio Pro was the last app and wouldn't install, I kept getting that stupid -24 error.
Saved me from doing a factory reset!
Works!
Qewbicle said:
I don't know the cause. I have noticed that it has happened on different devices, there have been assumptions if it's because of a specific kernel or rom, although it may be, I beg to differ. I feel it is happening during the Android Upgrading Apps # of # process.
I noticed that this error pops up on most of the apps that I had installed, but are not there after my update. So far with me, it happened only to my paid apps, but not all of them.
When the app disappears, android thinks it's missing, but some files think it is still installed.
Regularly when you install an app over itself, there is a notice telling you that the application info will remain. That's where the problem lies once an app mysteriously disappears. Because part of it is still installed.
Go to
/data/data/
and search for your
com.application-address.whatever-it-may-be
Some of them you can tell what they are just by the names, the others, google-em.
If you wish to keep the information that it contains for the app, I recommend making a copy of it first.:good:
Delete it
Install the application, it'll work, trust me. :fingers-crossed:
Now replace it with your copy.
Done.
Stop factoring resetting if you don't want to. Of course, if you have a lot missing, it might be better. :crying:
If someone can automate this process by making something check the com.address to installed apps, that would be awesome. :highfive:
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Didn't work for me. I'm using the Skyrocket CM 10 and gapps didn't flash youtube, maps, or gmail. I searched the phone directory and deleted each file. I still get the same error. Should I reflash gapps?
Thanks
maxlax1592 said:
Didn't work for me. I'm using the Skyrocket CM 10 and gapps didn't flash youtube, maps, or gmail. I searched the phone directory and deleted each file. I still get the same error. Should I reflash gapps?
Thanks
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are you looking in /sdcard/data/data or /sdcard/android/data?
jurassic512 said:
are you looking in /sdcard/data/data or /sdcard/android/data?
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exactly how do i go about getting to the data/data on my phone? i'm stuck there... thanks
It didn't work for me. =( I'm trying to install an app I used to have before. I don't have it anymore and was trying to reinstall it.
Great!
Thanks
Stuck
jurassic512 said:
are you looking in /sdcard/data/data or /sdcard/android/data?
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mr-dunbar said:
exactly how do i go about getting to the data/data on my phone? i'm stuck there... thanks
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I'm also stuck. I was able to go to sdcard/data, but there is no second /data folder.
I have this issue with Swiftkey and there is no 'data/data/' folder, checked both root and sdcard and hidden files are shown ...
Edit: Configured ES File Explorer to mount partition as writable and gave root access -> files were there now and deleting the one with Swiftkey solved my problem.
Thx
Working!
Thanx, it worked for me too!
I am on X8 with CM10 from NaA!!
goldenninja said:
I'm also stuck. I was able to go to sdcard/data, but there is no second /data folder.
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Anyone one you know anything about android..!?!?!?!
U need to root first...!!!
Worked for me as well.
You need to use something like ES File Browser with Root access to get to /Data/Data
I'm running into this issue with a bunch of apps that got lost when flashing a newer CM10.1 nightly. I can't access those folders in data/data since ES File Manager is one of the apps that gets this error!
Is there any other way to fix this? I can't install anything, not even Chrome :crying:
It's worked for me, too!
Someone maybe didn't understand the meaning of the thread creater. You must have the root access. Then, open Root Explore and go to "data/data" NOT "sdcard/data/data"
SlimAndwios said:
It's worked for me, too!
Someone maybe didn't understand the meaning of the thread creater. You must have the root access. Then, open Root Explore and go to "data/data" NOT "sdcard/data/data"
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Yeah, that's awesome, but how do you expect to get to that folder without a file explorer? because you cannot install one.....
Thx mate, perfect!
Qewbicle said:
I don't know the cause. I have noticed that it has happened on different devices, there have been assumptions if it's because of a specific kernel or rom, although it may be, I beg to differ. I feel it is happening during the Android Upgrading Apps # of # process.
I noticed that this error pops up on most of the apps that I had installed, but are not there after my update. So far with me, it happened only to my paid apps, but not all of them.
When the app disappears, android thinks it's missing, but some files think it is still installed.
Regularly when you install an app over itself, there is a notice telling you that the application info will remain. That's where the problem lies once an app mysteriously disappears. Because part of it is still installed.
Go to
/data/data/
and search for your
com.application-address.whatever-it-may-be
:highfive:
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Figure it out?
gastonw said:
Yeah, that's awesome, but how do you expect to get to that folder without a file explorer? because you cannot install one.....
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I've got the same problem. Root explorer is one of the apps I didn't get back and ES won't give me access to data/data, and I am rooted BTW
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tt100b said:
I've got the same problem. Root explorer is one of the apps I didn't get back and ES won't give me access to data/data, and I am rooted BTW
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In case it might help someone else I thought I'd pass along what I just did to fix the problem. I booted into recovery and found the com.speed.... file for root explorer that way and deleted it and then rebooted. I then was able to load and install root explorer from the play store and now I can sit back and delete all the rest of the apps that won't install correctly...
I guess I could have done it from recovery also but I forgot to write them all down before I rebooted!
Qewbicle said:
I don't know the cause. I have noticed that it has happened on different devices, there have been assumptions if it's because of a specific kernel or rom, although it may be, I beg to differ. I feel it is happening during the Android Upgrading Apps # of # process.
I noticed that this error pops up on most of the apps that I had installed, but are not there after my update. So far with me, it happened only to my paid apps, but not all of them.
When the app disappears, android thinks it's missing, but some files think it is still installed.
Regularly when you install an app over itself, there is a notice telling you that the application info will remain. That's where the problem lies once an app mysteriously disappears. Because part of it is still installed.
Go to
/data/data/
and search for your
com.application-address.whatever-it-may-be
Some of them you can tell what they are just by the names, the others, google-em.
If you wish to keep the information that it contains for the app, I recommend making a copy of it first.:good:
Delete it
Install the application, it'll work, trust me. :fingers-crossed:
Now replace it with your copy.
Done.
Stop factoring resetting if you don't want to. Of course, if you have a lot missing, it might be better. :crying:
If someone can automate this process by making something check the com.address to installed apps, that would be awesome. :highfive:
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Worked Like a Charm Thank you for you help
can't find data
used es file explorer with root access can't find data/data
So im new to all this. My last "smart" phone was pretty basic and couldnt do much. I went through the root process thinking I would like it, but so far it seems like I wasted my time. I thought I would be able to uninstall useless apps and install apps right to the SD card. So far neither have worked. I was wondering if anyone could help and explain in plain simple english what I may be doing wrong or is this phone basically useless to root and just have to live with it as is? I tried titanium backup - all that did was take up almost all my remaining phone space, change my keyboard and switch my wallpaper back to default. I tried System app remover to remove unwanted bloatware - no change. I tried ROM toolbox lite to install apps to SD, I checked that box in the app for it to do this- downloaded an app to see if it worked and nope. So any suggestions on anything useful root does for this phone? So far it seems like i wasted my time on this.
Andy1058 said:
So im new to all this. My last "smart" phone was pretty basic and couldnt do much. I went through the root process thinking I would like it, but so far it seems like I wasted my time. I thought I would be able to uninstall useless apps and install apps right to the SD card. So far neither have worked. I was wondering if anyone could help and explain in plain simple english what I may be doing wrong or is this phone basically useless to root and just have to live with it as is? I tried titanium backup - all that did was take up almost all my remaining phone space, change my keyboard and switch my wallpaper back to default. I tried System app remover to remove unwanted bloatware - no change. I tried ROM toolbox lite to install apps to SD, I checked that box in the app for it to do this- downloaded an app to see if it worked and nope. So any suggestions on anything useful root does for this phone? So far it seems like i wasted my time on this.
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Heya Andy, welcome. you have a great phone there, and It just needs a little patience.
-you can remove any unwanted system app using whatever Root Explorer/manager you Wish, including ES file explorer!
-you can install/move apps to SD. the best way to do that would be Link2SD. you'll need to look around and read to get acquainted with it, but it's a great little app and it will let you install hundreds of apps, all on SD.
-to make the best use of your Root, you should install this or something similar.
-One of the best things you can do with root, is to install Xposed framework and use modules to customize your phone. some of my favorites are: Sense6 Toolbox, App Ops, Network speed indicator, Xsense, Bootmanager,,,. they give you great control on many aspects of the phone and add some very useful functionality.
Hi
Ive been trying to remove some bloatware on my rooted tab and am having no luck. Can anyone recommend any bloatware removal apps that are CONFIRMED WORKING on a rooted official 5.1.1 please?
Ive tried NoBloat and an app simply called Uninstall.
They seem to disable or delete the apps but the apps just come back (or never go away in the first place). Ive trieda few different apps with same result.
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Hostilian said:
Hi
Ive been trying to remove some bloatware on my rooted tab and am having no luck. Can anyone recommend any bloatware removal apps that are CONFIRMED WORKING on a rooted official 5.1.1 please?
Ive tried NoBloat and an app simply called Uninstall.
They seem to disable or delete the apps but the apps just come back (or never go away in the first place). Ive trieda few different apps with same result.
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
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I use "Root Explorer" and either rename or delete whatever app I don't like. Works perfect for me.
vinayburman said:
I use "Root Explorer" and either rename or delete whatever app I don't like. Works perfect for me.
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Well well.. I used ES file explorer (after a wee bit of googling the method) and worked no problems..
You learn something new every day, thanks!