Twice in the last couple of weeks I have had the screen flicker when I turn it on, turning it off then back on again has sorted it out both times.
I am hoping it is either down to some CM autobrightness thing, or under/overclocking...or both.
Unless anyone thinks this is the start of my screen dying?
Any input would be great
what do you mean by flicker? a slight flicker of the backlight? and by slight, i mean realllyyy slight
Nah its a full on flicker as in you can't use the phone like it.
I know when the forums started some people, like 2, were saying when they set their brightness setting to the lowest setting it would flicker. I suppose they returned it.
my brothers phone is doing that right now
I've had mine flicker about 5 times in the last four days. The screen semi locks and jumps up and down a little in a juddery way. When i try to scroll it works hap hazardly. Turning the screen off and on sorts it out. Not sure why it does this but it only started at the start of this week.
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Had this happen to me on a reboot today right as the cm logo was fixing to come up. It was only for a split second, like scribbled green flicker. It was after I updated to 6.1.1
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Mine does it all the time when the screen auto dims.
That was right out of the box stock.
ok good to know I am not the only one, I will keep an eye on it but I do think it might be to do with autobrightness
Got a screen protector on? Maybe the thickness/quality of screen protector could be an factor?
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Do the options in Cyanogen Settings,.. UI,.. Auto Backlight,.. Filter thing not sort anything for you?
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Lennyuk said:
Twice in the last couple of weeks I have had the screen flicker when I turn it on, turning it off then back on again has sorted it out both times.
I am hoping it is either down to some CM autobrightness thing, or under/overclocking...or both.
Unless anyone thinks this is the start of my screen dying?
Any input would be great
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I know when the forums started some people, like 2, were saying when they set their brightness setting to the lowest setting it would flicker. I suppose they returned it.
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I had the same thing happen and I just returned it from walmart and got a new one.
I can confirm that some phones do have a screen issue where the backlight flickers at certain brightnesses. Mine does it when at lower ones. Stock rom, etc, doesn't matter.
I also have battery issues (45 mins with screen on at 20% brightness will kill the battery).
I am having mine replaced today.
Replaced my phone, no more flicker, and it seems like the battery lasts twice as long now. Very happy so far
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My phone has really, really severe burn in. Basically I leave it on the clock app for like 20 minutes and the screen is burned in for maybe 5 minutes after i do something else. Also, sometimes I have it set to "Never turn display off while charging" when I test out my apps, but forget it and let it sit on the lockscreen for maybe 2 hours, and the residue remains for maybe 20 minutes. Is this abnormal, or does everyone have this? My phone is SLCD.
What is the residual effect that you're experiencing? Is it noticeable when you turn the screen off or when you navigate away from the burned in screen? I haven't heard of that but I suppose if the screen is left on for the whole time it's charging I could see that happening. Hasn't ever happened to me but I don't leave my screen on for that long. I wonder if the screen type makes a difference..
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Sounds like an SLCD problem. I leave my AMOLED on desk clock over night, no burning.
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What is the residual effect that you're experiencing? Is it noticeable when you turn the screen off or when you navigate away from the burned in screen? I haven't heard of that but I suppose if the screen is left on for the whole time it's charging I could see that happening. Hasn't ever happened to me but I don't leave my screen on for that long. I wonder if the screen type makes a difference..
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Well, once I left it overnight, and it stuck there even on the lock screen. For example, I got a new notification, moving everything else to the right, and there was burn in of the previous icon. Also, the time was blurred (it was like 7:58, and you could see the digits 1 - 7 on the right number).
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Sounds like an SLCD problem. I leave my AMOLED on desk clock over night, no burning.
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I read somewhere that only AMOLEDs could burn in. Weird, maybe that's wrong.
At least I can use my phone outdoors
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I read somewhere that only AMOLEDs could burn in. Weird, maybe that's wrong.
At least I can use my phone outdoors
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I've never heard of OLED's having burn in :-/
I can use mine outdoors >_> just gotta turn the brightness on max
I leave mine on the clock app overnight every night and never had a problem, but then again, the clock bounces around like a screen saver, I'm assuming for exactly that reason.
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AMOLED Incredible owner here, and I've left it on desk clock when I sleep, no burn in. I also use it on my desk at work as a clock, and I've been doing this for almost a year...
LCD does burn in. This is a problem in TV's where you can see channel logos getting burned in. Also, I can use my phone outside too Just gotta crank the brightness, that's all.
I can confirm that amoleds are able to burn in. The last replacement I got from vzw had the time burned in at the top and it was the first thing I noticed when I powered it on to the white "incredible" screen.
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I have noticed that my screen is flickering ever so slightly in all applications. it is bearable but slightly annoying. Could this be hardware related and will I have grounds for a warrenty replacement? should I wait and see if any OTAs resolve it?
Everything is stock. Brightness is set to auto.
I have problems with shadowgun crashing when there is an explosion etc. possibly related?
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Yeah, i noticed this too on my One X I've mostly seen it while my mobile data connection was on, and it seems to decrease a lot but not completely disappear when it's off. I also got a weird message yesterday while charging, saying something along the lines of "your phone is using too much current, -" (the message was in dutch, not sure what the exact message is in english) my phone turned off before I could completely read it. I wonder if those issues are somehow related. Maybe the screens backlight isn't getting enough power when the radio is on. Anyways, I'm not an expert, so don't quote me on that.
I also heard the tegra 3 drivers are buggy, so shadowgun crashing and performance drops etc. will hopefully be resolved in future updates.
I've got it as well I think it's a driver issue the last thing I want to do is go for a replacement and that to have more dud stuff as this is the only dud thing on mine. Everything else is fine apart from flickers now and then.
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JimmyEatFood said:
I have noticed that my screen is flickering ever so slightly in all applications. it is bearable but slightly annoying. Could this be hardware related and will I have grounds for a warrenty replacement? should I wait and see if any OTAs resolve it?
Everything is stock. Brightness is set to auto.
I have problems with shadowgun crashing when there is an explosion etc. possibly related?
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hey jimmy go to Menu->settings-> Developer options and untick all the option restart your phone and magic..... screen flickering will disappear
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Yeah, i noticed this too on my One X I've mostly seen it while my mobile data connection was on, and it seems to decrease a lot but not completely disappear when it's off. I also got a weird message yesterday while charging, saying something along the lines of "your phone is using too much current, -" (the message was in dutch, not sure what the exact message is in english) my phone turned off before I could completely read it. I wonder if those issues are somehow related. Maybe the screens backlight isn't getting enough power when the radio is on. Anyways, I'm not an expert, so don't quote me on that.
I also heard the tegra 3 drivers are buggy, so shadowgun crashing and performance drops etc. will hopefully be resolved in future updates.
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@backstabz0r for screen flickering pls refer to my earlier ans and for your problem which you got warning message thats common warning you get when you have put phone in charge and if you using it for gaming which consumpts more nergy then, message will be" battery consumption is more then the supply"
so suggest ou to let battery get charged till 30 % and then use it for gaming or any other apps
I've read a few threads here regarding the flicker and it seems some people are confusing flicker with something that I really don't know what to call.
Flicker for me is when there's a stroboscope-ish effect, like when you place your sight just above an old CRT monitor, or when a fluorescent light is on it's last breath. Not when what you see on the screen makes random movements a few pixels in any direction.
I have flicker on my HOX. But it's only noticeable on lower brightness levels. This happens in all applications and in settings menu, everything with white or light grey background, so not related to badly written apps. But I wonder if this really CAN be software related? Has this happened with other models from various manufacturers?
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I've read a few threads here regarding the flicker and it seems some people are confusing flicker with something that I really don't know what to call.
Flicker for me is when there's a stroboscope-ish effect, like when you place your sight just above an old CRT monitor, or when a fluorescent light is on it's last breath. Not when what you see on the screen makes random movements a few pixels in any direction.
I have flicker on my HOX. But it's only noticeable on lower brightness levels. This happens in all applications and in settings menu, everything with white or light grey background, so not related to badly written apps. But I wonder if this really CAN be software related? Has this happened with other models from various manufacturers?
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I've got what your describing quite a few users have. I believe it could be down to the drivers for the Soc. Might just need a driver update. Only the next update we can tell if this fixes the issue or not. We need to pressure HTC regarding this issue.
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I've got what your describing quite a few users have. I believe it could be down to the drivers for the Soc. Might just need a driver update. Only the next update we can tell if this fixes the issue or not. We need to pressure HTC regarding this issue.
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But is it really possible that a driver issue can cause flicker? I've never seen it before.
I tweeted @htcdev earlier today about it but no response yet. I wonder what the best way to make htc aware of this is. Contacting their lousy customer support feels pointless, it won't reach the people who actually can make an impact.
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I've read a few threads here regarding the flicker and it seems some people are confusing flicker with something that I really don't know what to call.
Flicker for me is when there's a stroboscope-ish effect, like when you place your sight just above an old CRT monitor, or when a fluorescent light is on it's last breath. Not when what you see on the screen makes random movements a few pixels in any direction.
I have flicker on my HOX. But it's only noticeable on lower brightness levels. This happens in all applications and in settings menu, everything with white or light grey background, so not related to badly written apps. But I wonder if this really CAN be software related? Has this happened with other models from various manufacturers?
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This is what I have, but its far worse on higher brightness levels.
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Right guys untick animations in Developer options, restart give it a while, go into camera you'll notice glitches, play a YouTube video you'll notice green bar on the left hand side of the screen in full screen mode. Untick animations and this disappears. It's worrying not sure what to do now.
Edit: can't repeat this but will keep trying as something did trigger it off for the screen to go like that.
Yeah, with flicker I didn't mean anything like having low fps when scrolling through stuff. I meant a quite noticable fluctuation in the brightness of the backlight if that makes sense. It is indeed quite like a CRT monitor with a low refresh rate. I haven't seen it yet when my screen brightness was high, but I'm not sure if it doesn't occur on higher brightness settings. It is also not constantly flickering, It only seems to act up when my mobile data connection is active, although I have seen a very slight flickering with data turned off. I really hope this isn't a hardware issue, the rest of my phone is pretty much perfect and I'd rather not send it in for a replacement after all the trouble I had with my sensation :/
I have the flicker issue, the screen flickers near the center a little bit to the right though, and it is reall irratating, but i can only see it when viewing pictures and on greys.
I hope it isn't hardware!!
tried all the ideas given to stop it but none work for me, still seems to flicker
Me too
I have the screen flickering too.
Im reluctant to return it as apart from this the handset is solid.
It on appears on certain colours making me think its software related.
I also have the exact same flicking issue. From what I have heard it is a software issue rather than a hardware issue. Just to be on the safeside though I am returning my One X to Phones4U for a replacement. Will be interesting to see if the replacement has the same issue.
I made a thorough check yesterday. I downloaded a brightness control app where you can write what brightness level you want so i tried from 3% which was the lowest possible step by step up to 15%. At 15 the flicker stops so its not 30 as I said before. this is my only issue too so I dont dare to replace it just to get a worse phone. My sister is getting one next week so gonna compare them.
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I noticed this too, but i believe its a software issue only. When I unlock the phone, the screen flickers while sense runs and the three menu button appears then goes. Once its all settled its fine. I believe this is to do with sense rather than a phone issue, and will be addressed via OTA.
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I noticed this too, but i believe its a software issue only. When I unlock the phone, the screen flickers while sense runs and the three menu button appears then goes. Once its all settled its fine. I believe this is to do with sense rather than a phone issue, and will be addressed via OTA.
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Not so sure about it being a specific Sense issue as I have noticed the screen flicking in 3rd party apps such as Spotify.
has anyone had theirs replaced yet? this is doing my head in! really noticeable on a grey background
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has anyone had theirs replaced yet? this is doing my head in! really noticeable on a grey background
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Phones4U are sending me out a bag to send it back so hopefully should have a replacement by Monday or Tuesday.
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Phones4U are sending me out a bag to send it back so hopefully should have a replacement by Monday or Tuesday.
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I phoned dialaphone there, i made them aware of the problem with my phone, told them if it wasnt fixed with the update then I would like to replace my phone, told me I had until next tuesday to see if its fixed, until I reminded her about distance selling regulations which gives me 28 days from receiving the handset.
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I phoned dialaphone there, i made them aware of the problem with my phone, told them if it wasnt fixed with the update then I would like to replace my phone, told me I had until next tuesday to see if its fixed, until I reminded her about distance selling regulations which gives me 28 days from receiving the handset.
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You do indeed have 28 days to return your phone however I wouldn't count on HTC releasing an update before then
1) go to display settings and set sleep to never turn off and brightness to full
2) install 'dead pixel detect and fix' from market
3) open 'dead pixel detect and fix' select colors, custom then a nice bright yellow
4) once your screen is bright yellow put on charge and leave for the night
I'm unsure if this fixed my problem or just a coincidence that my screen got better over night anyway but I thought I would share to see if it helps anyone else.
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1) go to display settings and set sleep to never turn off and brightness to full
2) install 'dead pixel detect and fix' from market
3) open 'dead pixel detect and fix' select colors, custom then a nice bright yellow
4) once your screen is bright yellow put on charge and leave for the night
I'm unsure if this fixed my problem or just a coincidence that my screen got better over night anyway but I thought I would share to see if it helps anyone else.
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This sort of trick helped me solve flickering but only temporarily.. I think yout problem will come back as well
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It had been 2 days and is still good. I read up that a lot of one x's have the same problem, yellow smudges appears about 3 days after purchase but suppose to fade after about 2 weeks. So I don't think it will return this is just to speed things up a little.
I thought that it was due to hardware, but maybe not so much?
Well ill try to work on it for few days on full brightness, maybe it will reduce the glue grain, I noticed its on all one Xs they just vary in intensity
Sometimes pixels get stuck at a colour and flashing the area between different colours really fast can fix it.
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Unfortunately my screen is yellow at the bottom and every pixel app I find has the menu bar there. What I did do though was leave chrome on the settings page and it did help to reduce it., however I've just been playing some fruit ninja. My phone got hot the touch screen stopped working correctly and the yellow is back worse than before
I am trying this now and will let it run overnight.
I currently have 2 yellow spots on the top of my screen. Hoping this will make them go away faster.
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Unfortunately my screen is yellow at the bottom and every pixel app I find has the menu bar there. What I did do though was leave chrome on the settings page and it did help to reduce it., however I've just been playing some fruit ninja. My phone got hot the touch screen stopped working correctly and the yellow is back worse than before
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My yellow blobs was at the top of the screen, so the black menu bar at the bottom wasnt a concern for me. I am currently using tripndroids cm9 build that takes the black bar away and gives you full resolution use. Only attemp cm9 if your boot loader has allready been unlocked, so you can still replace your phone if things dont improve.
for anyone using cm9 they dont have the option to turn display sleep off completly, so i would recomend downloading an app callled 'screen on' that does the job from the market.
The yellow tint/spot isnt a hardware fault. It comes from poor manufacturing processing. If you squeeze hard on the edge of the screen for prolonged time, the yellow tint/spot appears. Once the pressure on the screen is normalized, the tint/spot will be gone. However, there is a chance that prolonged pressure will cause permanent damage, it is wise for you guys NOT to put your H1X into your jeans pocket!
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Sometimes pixels get stuck at a colour and flashing the area between different colours really fast can fix it.
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That can be achieved by just clicking fix on the dead pixel app, when i attempted this for about 2 hours i never saw any changes as after just trying a constant yellow i instantly saw that my screen got brighter, whiter and the yellow smudges on top of my screen started to fade. I compare to my partners one x to check for improvements.
Any luck?
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I do hope that this solution help you with that problem.. however there must be a reason why HTC help support keeping my HOX at their location , as far as I know they waiting for new battery as well as NEW LCD..according to that information must be smth wrong with LCD... (yellow dots of course)
So I need to switched back to my HP pre 3 for a while..
Hi i have the same problem with my HOX, my HOX is perfect except for the blue spot when i turn my screen brightness to full and use a black wallpaper you can see the blue spot, i dont know what i must to do because it is my second HOX and it took me 2 weeks to get a replacement unit from virgin if any body in here has experience with htc australia service centre please let me know thanks (i did try to use the app but no luck)
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Alright -
I let it run for like 12 hours last night.
My yellow spots are about 75 percent gone!!!!
I am going to let it run again tonight and will give another update.
For those of you will yellow spots I would suggest giving this a shot. So far it seems to be working for me. Although I will keep an eye on it to see if it comes back or gets worse again.
Thanks!
any idea if this deals with the glue grain too?
I don't think the color really matters - what metters is that it is left alone AND getting warm.
I guess if you put a book on top of it while running a 3D game, 90% of the spots will be gone momentarily, but as soon as you start using it they will creep back because it is a lamination problem and not a screen problem...
And for those who claim their spots "disappeared" after a week - yes, they did disappear for me one day, but were back once I started using it heavily.
the spots problem will not appear for those who have a flawlessly fit screen
this is why i advice those with lamination issues to get rid of the phone, lamination issues = spots, uneven whites and chance of dust get in
Does anyone have any further evidence that this works? I've got a very light yellow haze/spot in the bottom right hand corner of my screen which I'm not too happy about.
Hoping that it does work because I don't really want to go through the hassle of acquiring a replacement. I will do if the problem is terminal though.
Thanks.
I don't have the yellow spots. But the top part of my screen has a yellow tint. This is my second phone and its perfect apart from this. Only had it a couple of days though so I'll give it time to see if it will fade.
I can only do a swap once more and I don't want to end up with a worse phone and have to send it away for repair.
Dilemma!
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Hi all,
I just gotten this phone today. I noticed the auto brightness transistion is not smooth but rather jerky and on my set it will brighten the screen and then lower the brightness quite often even though the lighting in the room did not change. Just wondering if I got a lemon set.
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Hi all,
I just gotten this phone today. I noticed the auto brightness transistion is not smooth but rather jerky and on my set it will brighten the screen and then lower the brightness quite often even though the lighting in the room did not change. Just wondering if I got a lemon set.
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I see the same thing. I hope it's not defective.
Mine does the same thing. Ended up turning the feature off, and leaving the brightness at about 50%
mine to i think it's a software issue
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Mine does the same thing. Ended up turning the feature off, and leaving the brightness at about 50%
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Exactly What I did. I used to have the face recognition to keep screen on and that was really annoying with the screen dimming every 15 seconds but with the brightness. Set at 50 I can still see the screen pretty well in sunlight.
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Exactly What I did. I used to have the face recognition to keep screen on and that was really annoying with the screen dimming every 15 seconds but with the brightness. Set at 50 I can still see the screen pretty well in sunlight.
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Coming from 2.5 months of HTC One, I just got this phone yesterday! Awesome phone amid some lags here and there at times. I hope that the next update of Android 4.2.2 will iron out those issue.
Yes, Since Android 4.1, the Autobrightness is kind of "too extreme" to be practical especially the dimming of backlight in low light. I have also set it to 52% manual.
The screen on my note 3 suddenly showed a green hue color. I took some screen shots to show but after I pressed the power button(standby) to turn screen off then back on again the green hue disappeared?
So thinking the pictures would still prove the issue, no I was wrong the screen captures I took with the green hue are also fine . Not sure whats going on...Perhaps it is hardware related hence why it does not show in the captures. Basically all the blacks had a green hue to them / in fact were green .
Today is the 14th day for me to return or exchange the device at t mobile. Please advise. I did install some dark wallpaper apps but deleted them yesterday, was using normal stock wallpapers. I am not rooted.
Do you think it is hardware related? I believe if it was software related then the screen captures ( which I took when screen went green) would also show the green hue.
Had the same problem here but mine had a pink hue.Try to reset the colors. Just type *#0*# on your phone dialer and use the 3 colors for 5 minutes each, it will reset the pixels.
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It went away when I pressed it on standby and back again.
What gets me concerned is that when I took a screen shot when it was green it didn't show on the picture after it remedied itself.
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So have the problem gotten worse since then?
I have seen it now and then. Often happened when I was on the phone and closed and opened the lid.
Happened now that I opened the lid after attaching it to the charger.
Should I expect it to get worse, and therefore return it for a new one or will it be a rare bug now and then?
Reading mode enabled?
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So have the problem gotten worse since then?
I have seen it now and then. Often happened when I was on the phone and closed and opened the lid.
Happened now that I opened the lid after attaching it to the charger.
Should I expect it to get worse, and therefore return it for a new one or will it be a rare bug now and then?
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Hi,
I bought mine in October 4th 2013, has occurred twice so far. Taking screen shots does not show it. I am thinking it is a software glitch.
Reading mode was not enabled. All dark areas of screen goes green.
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I bought mine in October 4th 2013, has occurred twice so far. Taking screen shots does not show it. I am thinking it is a software glitch.
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If you are doing a screen shot, it is reading the state from the device and saving it. So later if you look at that screen shot and it looks okay it most likely is not software. If you look at the screen shot while the unit is displaying the green look and it looks right, then you most likely have a software issue.
Sounds like a hardware issue or perhaps some weird mode being set by software. I still think it is hardware though.
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If you are doing a screen shot, it is reading the state from the device and saving it. So later if you look at that screen shot and it looks okay it most likely is not software. If you look at the screen shot while the unit is displaying the green look and it looks right, then you most likely have a software issue.
Sounds like a hardware issue or perhaps some weird mode being set by software. I still think it is hardware though.
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I perhaps hoped that you had answered my question when I first posted as this occurrence first happened on the 14th day of my purchase, so I had a choice to return to T Mobile store for swap out. Either way, only occurred twice so far, so I am not worrying too much about it. Shelf life for phone for me is approx 12 months max, so all is good thus far. Pressing the standby button afaik cleared it up at the times it occured.
I too have had this happen twice now and months in between. Happened after mj5 update could that be a cause
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I too have had this happen twice now and months in between. Happened after mj5 update could that be a cause
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Doubt it, as mine is stock N900T that has no updates as of yet.
The first time I rebooted and it went away. The second time it was only like that for a few seconds and cleared up on its own. I'm on the at&t version
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Mines does this once every few days apart, if I just turn off the screen and turn it back on it goes away. I also took screen shoots but they show fine in the gallery. I only seen it once on my wife's note.
I have exactly the same problem, the green hue appear, and turning off the screen or dial *#0*# and select one of the color to test the screen can clear that away. it happens once per one or two weeks for me. I'm worried that may be a hardware issues and that is a symptom before the device fail. Does any of you have this happened then your phone became not working ?
btw, It's seems happens after I changed to a magnetic flip case ,not sure if that's related, will try not using that case and see if that will gone away. Are you guys having this problem also using a case with magnetic flip ?