After root - Connecting to 3G instead of H - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Any1 else have this same "problem." Doesn't bother me too much, but annoying. Before root, my phone never connected/displayed the 3G connection/logo. It was always either H or E. But now w/ CM6.1 and root, it connects to 3G more often then H or E.
Wondering if this is the case for others?

This was because the stock ROM showed H for 3G as well as hspa+.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

There is a long discussion of this in the CM thread, but you are getting the same connection. The stock ROM has no 3G icon, it displays H for both 3G and H. What has always been happening is that the phone stays in 3G and kicks up to H when it is needed, then goes back to 3G to save power. All that is happening now is that you know when it's happening.

Like what the posts above say.
If you want to confirm then type *#*#INFO#*#* into your dialer and go to phone info (top option) and it will tell you your connection type.
Sometimes a particular rom or theme might show the icon on the notification bar wrong, it does not mean that the specific connection type is not working properly though.

Related

What does the H stand for on the network?

I've seen E for EDGE, 3G and at home I always have H, but next to T-Mobile it says 3G. What does the H stand for/represents?
hsdpa, its the fastest out of the lot
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That explains why when I'm home and on the net it's just as fast as if I was connected to WIFI. I don't even connect to my WIFI at home anymore because H is pretty fast.
Thanks for the reply.
at least yours shows those icons. mine doesn't. I only know what i'm connected to when i actually connect & it shows in the signal bars. & i disabled showing 3G next to tmobile because that was just annoying.
haven't encountered the H here in phoenix either.
xnifex said:
at least yours shows those icons. mine doesn't. I only know what i'm connected to when i actually connect & it shows in the signal bars. & i disabled showing 3G next to tmobile because that was just annoying.
haven't encountered the H here in phoenix either.
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I believe that the "H" will depend on the icon pack that you pick. I'm trying to recall if I saw an "H" when I had the stock T-Mobile icons or if it was just "3G" instead.
ruinertt said:
I believe that the "H" will depend on the icon pack that you pick. I'm trying to recall if I saw an "H" when I had the stock T-Mobile icons or if it was just "3G" instead.
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I think you're right because when I had the T-Mobile stock ROM I had no H it was just 3G. Until I got the Europe MW 6.5 ROM I saw it and now I'm on the EnergyROM.
yes i only started seeing the H after i installed the 1% battery on the stock rom.
It stands for HSDPA which in turn stands for High Speed Downlink Packet Access
My 3G is faster than your 4G
If and when you see your buddy bragging about hdmi in their HTC EVO, the H on hour phone allows you to quip back:
[bold] "My 3G is faster than your 4G" [/bold]
here's the proof:
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/video-htc-evo-4g-vs-htc-hd2
H = HSDPA
H+ = HSPA+ (On the T-Mobile G2, which is considered 4G for T-Mobile)

3G Icon On Notification Bar

New to Android phones, (I did a search but nothing was found), I was connected to Vodafone yesterday and there has never been a 3G Icon in the notification Bar (Network Signal has the 4 full bars)
When I am at home I use a Vodafone sure signal for 3G but it does not show in the notification bar either, (obviously I am connected to 3G when at home)
My network mode is set to GSM/WCDMA auto, so have I done something wrong or can some suggest how I can have this Icon showing.
I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
EddyOS said:
I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
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Thanks for the reply, this was a new sim card supplied with the phone I moved from T-Mobile to Vodafone so I could use the SureSignal to get rid of the crappy signal in the house.
Just solved the problem, if you switch off Wi-Fi then go into "settings/Mobile network connect to the internet it appears on the notification bar"
I thought you'd have it on already - glad you're sorted though!
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
Matt2887 said:
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
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The H means you have the HSDPA connection which is quicker than standard 3G. 3.5G if you will
ive also never seen a 3g icon, had the H and G one before
I use to get a 'H' on my kaiser
but on on my desire on Orange. I get a '3G+' symbol now. is this the same as 'H'?
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Guys, remember that Android works differently from WIndows Mobile.
On WIndows mobile, you had the G, E, 3G or H all the time showing what signal you had. Android does not do that.
The 3G/H icon only appears when connected to the internet. the rest of the time it just shows signal bars.
And yeah, if wifi is on it will disconnect from the internet and that icon will disappear. cos after all, as long as you have signal when just using voice and text, it doesn't really matter whether it's 3G or not.
And Yes, 3G+ is the same as H. 3G+ is Orange's stupid marketing speak for HSDPA.
I have constant 'G' which changes to 3G/H when in areas that allow it...phone works fine so no issues since changing my SIM card
I am also experiencing this problem and to clarify it:
Sometimes (i think it has something to do with using camera) the animation stops working (the arrows stays shadow even if i am downloading) or the 3h/h icon disappears completely (but i am still connected to mobile data).
Disconnecting and reconnecting mobile data (e.g. swithing to wifi and back, rebooting phone or turning airplane on and off) solves this problem and the animated 3g/h icon (arrows are white when downloading and shadow when connection idle) is back.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem permanently?
I have had no such a bug on my Milestone

Couple of things..

First, i would like to know if there is a way to keep the phone's data network ALWAYS on H not on 3G and having them switch back and forth it slows down the internet speed. Is there a setting or something i could change.
Second the notification LED. How can i make it so it can blink quicker.. i dont want to stare at my phone for like 5 seconds to see if its blinking or not...
Third the Swype keyboard ?? is it possible to get that keyboard after i put the Cyanmod ?? That keyboard is way better than the original android one.
I have a Rooted ( S- OFF) G2.
Cyan V6.1.0-RC3.
Thanks!
Fanatico said:
First, i would like to know if there is a way to keep the phone's data network ALWAYS on H not on 3G and having them switch back and forth it slows down the internet speed. Is there a setting or something i could change.
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Your phone is only switching back to 3G if it loses the H signal. So that's an issue of your reception, not something your phone can control.
When i had the nexus one. It was always on 3G. Then i Rooted it. Changed radio etc etc.. and now it was 3g and switched to H like my g2 now. Before i hacked the G2 there was no 3g. It was either H or Edge. And everytime it's on 3G now that it's hacked it doesn't use it.. it simply just takes a few seconds then goes to H.
I use anycut from market.
New shortcut
Activity
Testing
Click on new shortcut
Select phone information
From there I scroll down to force the phone use wcdma.
I don't know if that'll work. You don't need root or anything.
I hope this helps
Sorry if it dont .
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Fanatico said:
When i had the nexus one. It was always on 3G. Then i Rooted it. Changed radio etc etc.. and now it was 3g and switched to H like my g2 now. Before i hacked the G2 there was no 3g. It was either H or Edge. And everytime it's on 3G now that it's hacked it doesn't use it.. it simply just takes a few seconds then goes to H.
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It was using 3G before, you just didn't know it. T-Mobile decided that they were going to have their G2's display H for HSPA+ as well as 3G to give people the illusion of almost always using pseudo-4G
ibemad1 said:
It was using 3G before, you just didn't know it. T-Mobile decided that they were going to have their G2's display H for HSPA+ as well as 3G to give people the illusion of almost always using pseudo-4G
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The thing is that.. when i do a speed test and my phone is in 3g the speed is around 160-250 kbs then while is testing it switches to HSPA and the speed goes to 2-3mbs.. before I hacked it it was on H. And both of the times I tested in the same place. I understand that tmobile would disguise it.. but its odd that the speed test would switch like that, which didn't happen before. Also 3g and Hspa are two different networks :/
But still thanks for the help.

Is there any way to disable automatic switching between UMTS and HSDPA?

In my apartment my G2 constantly switches back and forth between UMTS (3G) and HSDPA (H). Is there any way to stop this? Both look like they have the same number of bars, but it seems like UMTS is way slower. I also should be in a 4G market, so is there a way to tell if I'm on HSPA+ or not?
I've honestly never even seen the 3g icon on my g2. whenever im in kent, when it drops it drops from h, to E
jenlow said:
I've honestly never even seen the 3g icon on my g2. whenever im in kent, when it drops it drops from h, to E
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I don't think the stock G2 ROM has a specific icon for 3G, if that's what your'e on. It shows H for 3G/HSPA/HSPA+.
I think the original poster is on Cyanogen, where it does show the type of connection a bit more accurately.
I'd also be interested in trying to force an HSPA connection. I don't think Bell has UMTS data so if I'm labeled as on 3G I can make calls and texts but have to wait for it to switch to H when I start using data.
It's a feature of cyanogenmod that it switches to 3G when heavy data is not required and switches to H+ when you need a faster data connection
That is of course if your running CM on your phone...
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It's a feature of cyanogenmod that it switches to 3G when heavy data is not required and switches to H+ when you need a faster data connection
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It's not a "feature" of CyanogenMod. This also happens on the stock ROM but we do not see the H icon, only the 3G one. Cyanogen himself explained this a while back.
Vandam500 said:
It's not a "feature" of CyanogenMod. This also happens on the stock ROM but we do not see the H icon, only the 3G one. Cyanogen himself explained this a while back.
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You mean stock sees only the H icon, not the 3G one XD
Also note that if you're not actively using data, it'll show the 3G symbol (on Cyanogen or Sense ROMs) - as soon as you start a connection, it'll switch to an H. This isn't necessarily because the phone is switching between a 3G and HSPA signal, but rather because 3G is also used to carry voice - so if the phone isn't using HSPA for data, it obviously doesn't need to show it.
Thanks for all of the information, guys!

[Q] Data connection problems

Hi,
I have some data connection problems since the first day i bought my DHD.
The phone reception signal bar are always changing even when i am not moving at all.
It can generally move from H to 3G a few times, then go to E and then G, in a few seconds.
it always moves, my internet connection is very slow.
It's as if the radio was always trying to renegociate the method of communication (GPRS, 3G, etc) with the operator's antenna
When i am in a phone call, i got disconnected sometimes or the sound stop during a few seconds (the time the radio switch from 3G/H to E/G i guess)
When i disable WCDMA from the settings i get a quite stable sound during my phones calls (maybe because the phone no more tries to negociate). But for Internet... it's just slow.
I tried a few ROMs, and their respectives radio rom (the one with the IRL branded in the ROM) i sometimes thought it was better but always it's still too unuseable.
I tried my SIM card in an iphone 3GS and i am usually in Edge (sometimes 3G) but when its 3G i can surf quickly during hours (if i don't move). This is not the case with the DHD.
btw i am on the french carrier SFR
If any of u had any clues i would really appreciate your help.
Thanks you
what rom are you using and what radio and ril................... now what radio are you on now
OP already stated he tried numerous ROMS and their cooresponding radios. Sounds like the signal is that degraded that any radio/ril combination will not help.
Thanks for your replies.
As said i tried many ones with their respective recommanded radio.
I am actually trying Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M with Android Revolution HD 4G_6.1.1 with no sense script.
Are there tests i could do to identify if its a hardware problem (like standing in front of an antenna and running some special tool maybe)
Btw, i also tried :
-RCMix3D_Runny_v1.3 but does work with internet pass through (wich is really important since i can't use internet from my phone carrier...)
-niarkMIUI-3.9.1
-LeeDrOiD_HD_V4.0.0-SE-3.0-BETA with Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2
-cm_ace_full-203 with my stock radio ROM
-virtuous_unity-v2.37.0 with i don't remember wich one...
P.S : i would be Glad to test any ROM / Radio combinaison you would suggest me.
Thanks by advance for your attention
if you tried all those roms and diffident radios seems like its more like a hardware or provider issue does it happen off different towers or maybe you can go to one of the stores and try the phone at the store with yours at the same time?
Thank for the advice indeed i need to try this.
Do you know what i need to revert back for the tech not to tell the waranty is over since i have flashed my phone ?
Does i need to reflash the recovery etc? is there some tutorial in this subject because if i go to the store with my custom rom i guess i won't get too much help :/
Don't even take out your phone, your going to say your just looking, don't show anyone your phone, they won't even know what to look for, just test your phone to the one at the store, make sure apn's match. But if you return your phone you'll need to ruu back to stock. You can search easy s-on
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What happens if you manually select 3G only, or 2G only from the settings menu? Does it just lose signal, or stays strong?
Hi
If i select 3G only
I first get no reception (as if when switching from 2G to 3G the radio had to restart)
Then the 3G signal appear strong, decrease slowly in less than 30 seconds, and after all, it seems quite stable.
The bandwidth is good i am downloading fastly
(i am commenting in real time)
Still no deconnection.
I will try it during the whole day and tell how it is behaving.
umm during a few seconds, there were no indicator (no 3G or H), just 3 bars.
It then restarted in H with 1 bar (i am not moving at all)
What will happen if i have no 3G in my area ? I won't be able to receve a phone call ?
Thanks
elfrancesco said:
Hi
If i select 3G only
I first get no reception (as if when switching from 2G to 3G the radio had to restart)
Then the 3G signal appear strong, decrease slowly in less than 30 seconds, and after all, it seems quite stable.
The bandwidth is good i am downloading fastly
(i am commenting in real time)
Still no deconnection.
I will try it during the whole day and tell how it is behaving.
umm during a few seconds, there were no indicator (no 3G or H), just 3 bars.
It then restarted in H with 1 bar (i am not moving at all)
What will happen if i have no 3G in my area ? I won't be able to receve a phone call ?
Thanks
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If you force it to 3G only, and you move out of 3G area, then you should either get a no signal indicator, or if you have roaming enabled, you would get the roaming indicator. I'm curious now because as you said you aren't moving, and it's still changing. That shouldn't happen. Hmmm

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