Hey ;D
Just wondering would I get HSPA+ speeds with a Desire Z on Vodafone(UK)?
Thanks
I believe that the UK is badly behind in terms of HSPA+ rollout. So in the short term, no, I don't think you will.
steviewevie said:
I believe that the UK is badly behind in terms of HSPA+ rollout. So in the short term, no, I don't think you will.
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Okay ;D Thanks for the quick reply
I don't even think the desire z can receive HSPA+ signals.
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ibemad1 said:
I don't even think the desire z can receive HSPA+ signals.
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Different people have different ideas on what "HSPA+" really means, but the DZ has the same spec as the G2, and can download at up to 14.4 Mbit. Which is a higher speed than I think we have here in the UK at the moment.
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Different people have different ideas on what "HSPA+" really means, but the DZ has the same spec as the G2, and can download at up to 14.4 Mbit. Which is a higher speed than I think we have here in the UK at the moment.
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Vodafone have trialed 16 mbit sometime last year.. although I dont think they continued the idea... Eh.. that was only 2mb more
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Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
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Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
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I think this is the current list of nations with CDMA networks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks
I would recommend that you simply buy a phone from a local mobile company. CDMA phones are harder to get working on other systems than GSM phones.
You have to find out what networks you have where you live. American CDMA is pretty much only a North American signal. The Evo is built to run on the Sprint network which is CDMA.
Most European countries (I know you are not in European country) run on a GSM network. Two of USA's bigger companies run GSM phones...AT&T and T-Mobile. Phones from both those companies will run in Europe...but not at 3G. But they will work.
My new Evo will not work in Europe...so next time I travel I will need to consider this.
Not sure if that helps. What network does your phone company use? Then get a phone that will work on that network. Evo is only CDMA so pretty much only a North American phone.
thank you very much for your answer, i hope to get a wonderful phone soon, and thank you again
Mine roamed on both data and voice when I was in Cabo San Lucas last week...
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Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
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I live in Asia and yes, as long as you have compatible CDMA networks it will work, even the EVDO works!! You'll just need to ask your CDMA provider to inject a CDMA number or you can unlock it yourself using CDMA works (a bit risky thou)
Find out what frequencies the country you are trying to use it in run on their CDMA networks, Sprint runs on 1900MHz, the EVO roams on Verizon's 800MHz band. 800MHz is only for voice, 1900MHz runs both voice and data. So if you are in a country with a 800MHz CDMA network it will work, but only for voice/texts. WiMax runs on 2.5GHz, no one else uses that band for WiMax.
Get a unlocked nexus one it will save u the cdma trouble
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Even if it works, and you try and experiment with it only, you might get a few thousand dollar phone bill. Be very careful.
It has happened with many people with iPhone.
sablesurfer said:
My new Evo will not work in Europe...so next time I travel I will need to consider this.
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Yes it will.
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Get a unlocked nexus one it will save u the cdma trouble
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Yep, the N1 has nearly the same specs, and is available in both an AT&T flavor and T-Mobile flavor of GSM. Find out what you need in your area (I expect it will be the T-Mobile phone) and go for that instead.
The N1 has a 5MP camera instead of 8MP, but the picture quality is often just as good (higher MP just means you can blow it up or crop more) and the screen is a 3.7" instead of 4.3". However both run basically the same hardware inside, and the N1 has a more mature modding community.
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Yes it will.
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While Europe is a big place, the voice & wireless data portions of the Sprint Evo will not work in England, Ireland, Spain, France, Portugal, or Germany. Just like 95% percent of all Sprint phones.
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Yes it will.
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Uhm...a flat contradiction adds nothing to the conversation. More data if you have it. The non-compatibility with Ireland/Europe/etc was a huge deal to me. One I had to just swallow and accept that if I want the phone I'd have to deal with travel at that time.
I spent weeks researching and was even told by Sprint store that no go on the Evo.
CNET: "Alternatively, if your relative is a Sprint or a Verizon customer, he or she can rent GSM phones from the carrier for the length of the trip:
HTC: "Networks CDMA 800/1900 MHz EVDO Rev. A, WiMAX 2. 5 to 2.7GHz; 802.16e"
Don't be an azz and throw out a denial with no information. Even HTC shows this phone has NO GSM.
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Mine roamed on both data and voice when I was in Cabo San Lucas last week...
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Is it an extra charge to use phone there..?
i guess its like 3.5G and at&t offers it. possible to get this on sprint?
Not to my knowledge
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i guess its like 3.5G and at&t offers it. possible to get this on sprint?
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No, its a gsm thing, it basically gives you a bit of a higher dl and ul, no one has stated a big difference tho.
From what I read its a different frequency to clear up the over load so ppl will stop complaining of data issues...
Don't quote me on that tho ... lol
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HSDPA is like EVDO, basic 3G, a little faster though.
HSPA+ is closer to WiMAX, but about half the speed at least in practice.
LTE is where the good stuff is at, but Verizon is charging waaaay too much for it.
Hi All,
Ive been looking at the custom roms, now finally done it to my DHD after 7 months of owning it and its now Fantastic!
Just 1 thing that confuses me though, looking at the rom i have and other roms, they describe to have the 4G connection speeds? However the DHD is a 3G handset? Can this be correct? Is it just a software change? Or is it diown to hardware and cannot be true?
Thanks in advanced.
Dobby
Im not sure on this being a software change as the 4g part requires a beefy antenna. I am guessing that this is carrying the same hardware (less a couple of toys) for the US version of the handset 4g is plausible. However Being plucky Brits we do not have a 4g network yet,
The closest we get is HSDPA which is 3.5g (7mb download apparently).
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Im not sure on this being a software change as the 4g part requires a beefy antenna. I am guessing that this is carrying the same hardware (less a couple of toys) for the US version of the handset 4g is plausible. However Being plucky Brits we do not have a 4g network yet,
The closest we get is HSDPA which is 3.5g (7mb download apparently).
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Ahh, didnt know that 4g werent in use over here yet! lol... 3.5 aka HSDPA is what the DHD uses aint it??
Cheer mate!
Is the T-Mobile G2 or HTC Desire Z open for 4G networking? I was going through my billing information and it said additional $20.00 for 4G services but at the top of my phone it says 3G? IDK if it is because of root etc. But I was wondering if this phone is 4G. Leave comments and please support my question. Thanks ahead!
Mine runs 4G, so yes its open to it.
The G2 supports HSPA+ on T-mobiles '4g' network.
Or are you wanting to buy the desire Z and use it in the US?
And you shouldnt be getting billed extra for 4G. That's Sprints thing.
I think on the G2, "H" shows "4G" services.. I could be wrong though. I have a Desire Z.
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Or are you wanting to buy the desire Z and use it in the US?
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They have the same radios apart from frequencies. I believe the Desire Z is more suited for AT&t bands?? [EDIT: Wrong, DZ is UTMS 900/2100]
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And you shouldnt be getting billed extra for 4G. That's Sprints thing.
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Thats daylight robbery if you are!! On this phone, "4G" isn't any more than "3G" HSDPA with a higher uplink speed, Thats good marketing on their part.
I used to switch off HSDPA (HSPA+) on my phones for much better battery life.
Craig
Should I contact T-Mobile. Because it charges me on my billing but i don't have it... If I ask would they disapprove of helping me because of my rooted phone. Could.this just be an error?
I heard somewhere on xda that sometimes "H" shows when you are still only on 3G, that they were overemphasizing the H instead of the G or something of that nature.
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Should I contact T-Mobile. Because it charges me on my billing but i don't have it... If I ask would they disapprove of helping me because of my rooted phone. Could.this just be an error?
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Thats your call mate, I don't know how T-Mobile USA does its billing. That could be your data plan or something. However, I dont think they'd disapprove about the rooted phone TBH, just don't tell them. You could confirm you're in a "4G" (HSPA+) area with a simple query. Also, if its a custom ROM (Cyanogen etc) ask in their thread to see if they have a similar issue.
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I heard somewhere on xda that sometimes "H" shows when you are still only on 3G, that they were overemphasizing the H instead of the G or something of that nature.
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Yeah, I'd heard similar. On the UK stock Desire Z it constantly sits at "3G" until data is in use then it negotiates "H" (depends on network support) A very good battery saving feature if you've ever used Windows Mobile phones!
Craig
So what is the average speed everyone is seeing?
I just went on a month-long road trip, taking my G2 out of the new orleans hspa coverage area for the first time, and I noticed a marked difference between hspa (H) and 3G (G) coverage. And edge might as well be no connection at all, it would seem. My friend uses verizons cdma networks, and while a lot of times he didnt have data connectivity either, he at least had phone capability, which was more than i could say for t-mobiles gsm. but now that im out of the desert and back in the city, my phone is the rad again.
The Desire Z/G2 does NOT have 4G or/and "4G".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
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The Desire Z/G2 does NOT have 4G or/and "4G".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
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nothing you can buy today meets the technical definition for '4g' and nothing will for quite awhile.
my G2 is just as fast as my Friends EVO on Wimax, and my friends Thunderbolt on LTE. so as far as me and the general consumer should be concerned the G2 is a 4G phone because it offers significantly faster data speeds compared to 3G only devices.
So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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the problem is the definition of 4G. there isn't one.
the G2 is hspa+ capable, if you have a signal.
verizons LTE is multitudes faster up and down.
there is _NO_ such thing as 4G.
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So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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So you're asking this because of the billing, right?
I assume you are seeing this on the bill (or something similar): "4G Web Unlimited $30.00"
That's just the way Tmo describes the "unlimited web" on the bill. I don't *think* there's any difference between the dollar amount for say the G2 and the MyTouch 3G, for the data plan.
And, for what it's worth, I'm seeing up to 10mbps down and *up to* 4mbps upload around here... That's close enough to true 4G for my purposes. Beats the pooh outta my DSL line
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So you're asking this because of the billing, right?
I assume you are seeing this on the bill (or something similar): "4G Web Unlimited $30.00"
That's just the way Tmo describes the "unlimited web" on the bill. I don't *think* there's any difference between the dollar amount for say the G2 and the MyTouch 3G, for the data plan.
And, for what it's worth, I'm seeing up to 10mbps down and *up to* 4mbps upload around here... That's close enough to true 4G for my purposes. Beats the pooh outta my DSL line
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There isn't. Even if you have a ****ty ten dollar feature phone, your gonna pay thirty bux and its gonna say 4g on the bill.
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So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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For the purpose or your original question yes, its "4G" capable, in a "4G" area it should be showing "H". Someone who uses the MIUI rom may be able to confirm this. On the stock DZ rom, "H" is both HSDPA and HSPA+
The confusion comes from the definition of "4G" or the lack of! The ITU who maintain telephony standards define "4G" as LTE-Advanced or WIMAX (802.16m). T-Mobile successfully argued with the law that they could market their HSPA+ offering as "4G" on their "new network" which in reality is just a simple upgrade.
For the record, speedtest reports about 3Mbps down and 1Mbps up which is quite respectable. I believe its on HSPA+ at 14.4Mbps.
Okay I get it! They are charging me for the coverage and capability. This means that the phone is cabable. But how come it says 3G though I'm still a little concerned even though it is possible for me to have 4G how come I am paying for something I don't have. Is says 3G loud and clear! At no point has it said 4G but why is it that I am paying for it?! But I do understand your answers... Just answer me that question..
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Okay I get it! They are charging me for the coverage and capability. This means that the phone is cabable. But how come it says 3G though I'm still a little concerned even though it is possible for me to have 4G how come I am paying for something I don't have. Is says 3G loud and clear! At no point has it said 4G but why is it that I am paying for it?! But I do understand your answers... Just answer me that question..
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The 3G vs 4G vs H vs H+ is potentially just a matter of graphics or icons?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993824
*edit: you appear to be in Houston, so you should be covered by HSDPA*
Download "Speedtest" app, by Ookla, and run a couple tests. See what you get for speeds.
In settings - about - network what does it say?
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only 3.5g
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For those of you who live in the UK, you may of heard recently that 4G is finally coming to the UK on the Orange and TMobile UK networks very soon. My question is will my HTC One X be able to receive the 4G signal?
EDIT: Apparently not as the hardware isn't in the phone to connect to 4G
If i'm totally honest, i'm not to bothered. HSPA is MORE than enough for me.
Nope.
That's why the One XL was released in USA for the 4G network there.
Actually, looks like the Asia/Aus version of One XL might work, it supports 1800MHz LTE.
Ah okay nevermind then..thanks guys.
As always well be limited and throttled most likely and they will take advantage and hike the prices up for those wanting to make use of 4G technology. Heck the current technology is quite poor in some areas. Central London and some parts of London are heavily congested and barely get any data signal!
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if thats the case whats the point cause when i went into contract for 2 bloody years with t-mobile they said when the 4g is rolled out and active my HOX would benefit,lying scumbags
T-Mobile told me the same thing as well, when i corrected them Quad Band is different to 4G and this is not a 4G phone, the sales guy didnt have a response...
may be you can cancel your contract on grounds of Mis Selling
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T-Mobile told me the same thing as well, when i corrected them Quad Band is different to 4G and this is not a 4G phone, the sales guy didnt have a response...
may be you can cancel your contract on grounds of Mis Selling
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yeah thats exactly what i was thinking,i wonder if my case is strong enough? i certainly could try or at least haggle for compensation
could set a precedent and others may follow my lead
Tmobile take the pee when it comes to giving correct information, all this hype about 4G coming and i bet the majority of phones they sell dont even support it. Not only do they take the right mick when it comes to releasing OTA updates (one of the main reasons why i joined this forum!) now it looks like they're giving wrong information to customers about 4G. For me personally its not a big deal that i wont get 4G because the current signal and speeds I get now are reasonable enough even though since the start of the olympics i've noticed a bit of a decline in performance dont know if you guys have experienced this either but its the fact that they've made a big hoo haa about this and havent given clear information about who's gonna benefit from this and who wont.
It's quite hard to say, as the 4G network here will be completely different. Despite my post earlier saying, no, I've been doing some research and the 4G network in the UK will be using the already existing 1800MHz frequency. The specs for the One X say it can use this frequency.
What speed is 4G supposed to be? I regularly test and see like 4-5mb don't need anymore tbh
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It's quite hard to say, as the 4G network here will be completely different. Despite my post earlier saying, no, I've been doing some research and the 4G network in the UK will be using the already existing 1800MHz frequency. The specs for the One X say it can use this frequency.
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Yeah, but it hasn't got a clue what LTE is, so it won't work.