Hi all "I am new at this stuff so apologies for my ignorance in the following explanation"
I have a rooted desire phone with a 4GB class 4 SD card and clockwork recovery
The internal free phone storge was 51.2MB, and I decided to partitioned my SD card in order to free more space for the app. "which is 90% of them are on the SD card" and for using some custum room "I actually dont konw the use of partitionning in custum room" but that what I read
So, I partitioned my SD card using Rom Manager with 512mb ext and zero swap with no errors, after that I put all the app. back to the SD card with no problem and all app. run smoothly from the SD card
I checked the internal phone storge using "DiskUsage" and it was as follows
Data 147.6MB
Application 35.4 MB "some of this app. can not move to the SD card & the other I wanted on the internal memory like Astro"
System data : 61.0MB
Free space 51.2MB "which is the same as befor partitioned as well as all the above sizes "
And the SD card total space was 3.21 GB which mean that the 512 MB suppose to be ext. partion right now
The Qustion is where is the 512 MB that suppose to be ext. partion ? Should this partitionning prosses free the internal memory of the phone ? and what is the use of partitionning in custum room ?
It is kind of weird at first when your new to it all. Took me a few weeks to get use to it and understand how it roughly works.
When you partition your SD card so you have an ext partition, it won't actually show up as internal memory. The internal memory is being read off of the /data partition. To make it simple, the ext partition acts like it's "hidden" so to speak. To get it working you would need an A2SD script at least. Depending on what rom you have, the script could be an addon, where you have to flash it after the rom, or it would be built in so it's just up and running anyway.
You can check to see if the ext partition is working. Apps can see if it's working, just search around in the market. To get the apps onto the ext partition, you would probably have to move them, but don't use the moving feature in Settings > Manage applications.
Thanks for your reply
I actually didnt flashed any custom rom yet "I am planning to" and I am running the stock rom froyo 2.2 which have the move 2 SD card feature, and the only app. that I had in this matter is "Move 2SD Enabler" which with It I moved almost all the application that I want to the SD card "some app I cant like the maps"
But even after the moving of all app. the internal phone memory is the same
I mean I cant feel any deference after the partitionning
So How can I use this 512MB ext partition or when ?
and also are these free space on the internal phone healthy ? or may I suffer a space problem when I tried to flash a rom? and what kind of ext does the rom manager do ext.2 or 3 or 4 ? and does it matter when flashing a rom ?
Sorry for the dozen of questions
With most roms it comes with A2SD (there are other deviations of it but the same principle). This is a script which tells the rom to install apps to the ext partition on your SD card instead of the internal memory. Thus, you get more app storage.
When you have A2SD, only the apps get put on the ext partition. Other things like the data for the apps and the dalvik cache stay on the internal memory and will (eventually) fill up the internal memory. That's where d2ext for example comes in. (You can read about all this stuff in your own spare time).
Recovery/rom manager uses ext3 but you can upgrade it to ext4.
I installed the marvelcrom2.0.zip from a thread on here (not sure which) and it came with link2sd and apps2sd.
Before I did this I partitioned the 2gb card as something like 1gb fat32 / 480mb ext4 / 480mb linux swap for the cache.
When the phone booted up I rand apps2sd and it says that all the apps are on the sd card, however when I check the memory tab pretty much all the apps on the phone are on the internal storage and it says that they can not be moved to the sd card.
The internal memory free is only 17mb and apps from the android market are not installing on the card either. Have I set something up incorrectly?
I also have link2sd but I haven't tried to use it. Can I use them both at once?
You need to have at least a class 4 sdcard and then also move your dalvik to the sd. Don't mess with the Android a2sd at all.
Also link2sd sucks.
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Well, the last time I installed Link2SD, it all went well - I partitioned, and got it set up working. Then I disabled it because I didn't really need it. Now after a few CM7 updates, I've found that I want to use Link2SD again.
So I partitioned my SD card again - 7GB FAT32 for normal storage, 456MB EXT4 for Link2SD.
I set up Link2SD and it created the mount script, I rebooted and found that if I looked at my internal memory size, it's still 150MB. Last time I used Link2SD the partition of my SD card was added onto my internal storage. I can still link apps to the SD partition, but my internal memory still comes up as 150MB, which makes me unable to install any more apps because it thinks it's full.
What have I done wrong? I'm using the latest CM7 build with a class 4 8GB SD card.
Link2SD doesn't adding your external storage to internal, it's just transfer everything you want to external storage. Your phone will say that you have 150 internal memory which is true but the catch is your free space there - if you set your link2SD options like they should be free space shouldn't change almost at all.
My guess is that you had data2SD with you previous ROM you used, that one do just that what you mentioned - add external space to internal (teoreticaly).
kobredabre said:
Link2SD doesn't adding your external storage to internal, it's just transfer everything you want to external storage. Your phone will say that you have 150 internal memory which is true but the catch is your free space there - if you set your link2SD options like they should be free space shouldn't change almost at all.
My guess is that you had data2SD with you previous ROM you used, that one do just that what you mentioned - add external space to internal (teoreticaly).
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I see, looks like I got the two confused then. Thanks for clearing that up for me
I cant really see the point of Link2SD then, since the phone thinks its installed on the internal memory when its installed on the SD partition. Android thinks the internal memory is full and doesn't allow you to install any more apps...
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dudeman1996 said:
I see, looks like I got the two confused then. Thanks for clearing that up for me
I cant really see the point of Link2SD then, since the phone thinks its installed on the internal memory when its installed on the SD partition. Android thinks the internal memory is full and doesn't allow you to install any more apps...
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Hmm it shouldn't be like that at all, something is wrong with you link2SD setup there...
Try this, open link2SD, hit Multi-select and choose Select all. Then hit Actions and choose Create link. That should transfer all apps that could be transferable to external storage (application files, dalvik-cache files and library files) and check your free internal space then (changes maybe not be visible immediatly, do one reebot just for case)
And i guess that you, before that, choosed right file type of your internal storage in link2SD (ext4 in this case). You can see external partition in link2sd's storage info, right?
kobredabre said:
Hmm it shouldn't be like that at all, something is wrong with you link2SD setup there...
Try this, open link2SD, hit Multi-select and choose Select all. Then hit Actions and choose Create link. That should transfer all apps that could be transferable to external storage (application files, dalvik-cache files and library files) and check your free internal space then (changes maybe not be visible immediatly, do one reebot just for case)
And i guess that you, before that, choosed right file type of your internal storage in link2SD (ext4 in this case). You can see external partition in link2sd's storage info, right?
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Yeah EXT4 is fine, it all shows up. Thanks for you help, I'm just gonna go with Data2SD
What is usb storage and why do i need it i already have system storage.
Anyway what is stored on it because its filling up with some apps.
fayosi said:
What is usb storage and why do i need it i already have system storage.
Anyway what is stored on it because its filling up with some apps.
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Our SGW has
1.) 1.7 GB Internal SD storage (it shows as USB storage under settings-> storage)
2.) 2 GB ROM (1GB System Storage/Device Memory + 1GB ROM)
3.) External SD storage (size depends on ur own MicroSD)
For unrooted device, u can move apps into the 1.7GB usb storage from the system storage. Of course, u can keep all apps in ur system storage but the space is really limited.
I would recommend u to keep contacts, messaging software, themes and those apps u need to have it run immediate after booting in ur system storage; keep games and less frequently used apps in usb storage (internal sd).
For rooted device, u can even move apps into ur external sd storage by using App2sd. U can see a hidden folder call .android_secure under ur external_sd directory.
In the Settings/SD & phone Storage, it shows
SD CARD
Total Space: 1.9GB
Available Space: 1.1GB
INTERNAL STORAGE
Total Space: 6.6GB
Available Space: 6.2GB
PHONE MEMORY
Total Space: 748MB
Available Space: 210MB
Is it possible to move my apps to INTERNAL STORAGE? I tried Link2SD and App 2 SD, but it doesn't allow me to move my apps to internal storage, only from phone to SD card. Thanks!
I don't think that it is possible to move apps to the internal storage. I'm not sure why there is such a huge space that is essentially useless on this phone. At any rate, the easiest way to fix any problem that you have been having is by buying a larger SD card. I know that it probably isn't what you wanted to hear but I think it is the easiest solution. I am not 100% sure but I think that the largest SD supported by the dinc is 8gb, I wouldn't mind being able to stick in a 16gb or 32gb and have all of my music readily available instead of using google play but GP is certainly a great alternative, especially with my grandfathered unlimited data I hope this helps!
I do believe CM7 has an option to switch what you use for internal storage.
If your getting the low space warning or just want to install more apps without getting it, then check out the ext4 mod. It moves your apps data from a tiny partition to a much larger partition giving you more room for apps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351
cmlusco said:
If your getting the low space warning or just want to install more apps without getting it, then check out the ext4 mod. It moves your apps data from a tiny partition to a much larger partition giving you more room for apps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351
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Don't a lot of the ROMs have that mod built in now?
nschiwy said:
Don't a lot of the ROMs have that mod built in now?
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Yes there are many that do.
The dinc should support up to 32 Gb sdcards according to the specs. I'm using a 16Gb card with no problems.
Also, as has been said, on CM7 you can switch the mounting of the internal storage (emmc) and the sdcard, so the phone sees the emmc as the sdcard. This would allow you to put apps on the emmc.
I must say it seems a bit odd how HTC set up the partitions on the dinc. It is good for one thing though - if your'e a ROM flashing addict, Boot Manager can install ROMS to the emmc. The emmc is faster than your average sdcard, so it works great.
Thanks everyone for the replies. I'm not sure, but is this ROM EMMC supported to switch to internal storage?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267158
It says "EMMC PC mount works" but not sure if I could use this to store my apps in. If it is, do I just drag the apps folders into here?
Any replies would be greatly appreciated!
Guahan said:
Thanks everyone for the replies. I'm not sure, but is this ROM EMMC supported to switch to internal storage?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267158
It says "EMMC PC mount works" but not sure if I could use this to store my apps in. If it is, do I just drag the apps folders into here?
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Emc pc mount means when you plug the phone to the pc and select disk drive the sd and emmc mount to the pc. I assume at one point the rom had issues doing so.
Chek out an app called link2sd. It can move apps to both the sdcard an emmc.
cmlusco said:
Emc pc mount means when you plug the phone to the pc and select disk drive the sd and emmc mount to the pc. I assume at one point the rom had issues doing so.
Chek out an app called link2sd. It can move apps to both the sdcard an emmc.
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In Link2SD, it only shows MOVE TO SDCARD, not EMMC..
Guahan said:
In Link2SD, it only shows MOVE TO SDCARD, not EMMC..
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In the link2sd preferences there is an option to activate saving to emmc.
I see...
Native apps2SD settings > Install Location > Automatic, Internal, or External.
If I choose Internal, it will store the apps in the drive with the 6.6GB?
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It's not saving the apps in the Internal Storage that has 6.6GB, it's either saving it on my phone or sdcard
Guahan said:
I see...
Native apps2SD settings > Install Location > Automatic, Internal, or External.
If I choose Internal, it will store the apps in the drive with the 6.6GB?
Update:
It's not saving the apps in the Internal Storage that has 6.6GB, it's either saving it on my phone or sdcard
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Hmm im not sure i havent used it since the ext4 mod came out.
What EXT4 mod? Does it do the same thing?
Is it this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351
I'm not getting a low on space issue, just wanting to move apps to the 6.6 GB internal storage section.
Guahan said:
What EXT4 mod? Does it do the same thing?
Is it this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351
I'm not getting a low on space issue, just wanting to move apps to the 6.6 GB internal storage section.
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The ext 4 mod moves the /data/data partition on to a folder on the l data partition giving you significantly more space to install apps. You.could mount the emmc as sd an vise versa then mobe apps to the sd card which is actually the emmc.
The link I put, is that it?
Guahan said:
The link I put, is that it?
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Yes it is.
Your 2GB is the MicroSD external card, mounted by CM7 as "SD Card", and is used by almost everything, including app storage.
Your 6.6GB is a partition of the eMMC internal card, advertised as an internal 8GB, mounted by CM7 as "/mnt/emmc", and used by almost nothing. Some people use it as a media drive and place their music, pictures, and videos here.
Your 748MB is a partition of the eMMC internal card, mounted by CM7 as "Internal Storage", and is used by the system and the apps. A 150MB partition within this partition called "/data/data" causes "low on space" problems, which can be fixed by uninstalling certain apps or using the Ext4 mod.
If you didn't upgrade your MicroSD card, and you don't use the eMMc for media, you could force CM7 to use the 6.6GB instead of the 2GB. CM7 usually has an option for this called "Use internal storage" but I can't find it on the CM7 builds for the Incredible. So I used the following procedure instead:
1. Copy all the files in your current SD card to the eMMc
2. Edit the vold.fstab file manually, or download it here: https://www.box.com/s/e66b71720ce28911167d
3. Copy the file over using adb or root explorer
adb
Code:
adb remount
adb push vold.fstab /system/etc/vold.fstab
root explorer
Code:
use PC to transfer vold.fstab to your SD card
open root explorer
copy the vold.fstab file
navigate to /system/
navigate to /etc/
mount as r/w
paste the file
4. reboot and enjoy