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How to choose which partition to save files to?

Is there an option where I can choose between saving apps or photos into either the USB storage or device memory partition?

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I'm interested in this as well. I've moved media files to the external sd card and the phone doesn't see them. System info widget is only showing 1.67 GB internal storage while I know that can't be right. Still trying to figure out storage on this device. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

GadgetMonger said:
I'm interested in this as well. I've moved media files to the external sd card and the phone doesn't see them. System info widget is only showing 1.67 GB internal storage while I know that can't be right. Still trying to figure out storage on this device. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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For me, after I unplug the USB cable, it goes through a "Media Scan," and items that I had on the external SD Card are imported (at least ringers and notifications)... But I can't seem to get it to actually DO anything with the REAL SD Card... The phone thinks that the SD Card is the internal storage on the phone (the PHONE partition).
I copied some movie files over to the sd card to play them with Moobo, but there doesn't seem to be a way to navigate to them. I had to copy them to the PHONE partition.

Dalmus said:
For me, after I unplug the USB cable, it goes through a "Media Scan," and items that I had on the external SD Card are imported (at least ringers and notifications)... But I can't seem to get it to actually DO anything with the REAL SD Card... The phone thinks that the SD Card is the internal storage on the phone (the PHONE partition).
I copied some movie files over to the sd card to play them with Moobo, but there doesn't seem to be a way to navigate to them. I had to copy them to the PHONE partition.
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Hmmm... I don't think my device is working that way if it's supposed to. I put my ringers and pictures on the external sd, but they didn't get imported. They weren't there when I tried setting a ringtone and the pics weren't in my gallery. I did get the media scan. I just assumed that it was an antivirus app? And my phone definitely isn't seeing my sd card as internal storage. My card is practically empty yet I'm only showing 1.67 GB internal storage. Of course that could be a problem with the widget, but it does drop if I install anything from the market.

GadgetMonger said:
Hmmm... I don't think my device is working that way if it's supposed to. I put my ringers and pictures on the external sd, but they didn't get imported. They weren't there when I tried setting a ringtone and the pics weren't in my gallery. I did get the media scan. I just assumed that it was an antivirus app? And my phone definitely isn't seeing my sd card as internal storage. My card is practically empty yet I'm only showing 1.67 GB internal storage. Of course that could be a problem with the widget, but it does drop if I install anything from the market.
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On your SD card, do you have the ringers and notifications in the proper directory tree? Its got to be /media/audio/ringers or /media/audio/notifications
As for free space, when you go to SETTINGS ->STORAGE you should see THREE subsections... The first is your physical SD card, the second is "USB storage" which is the internal space you get to play with, and the third is "Device" storage, which is apparently 2GB instead of the 1GB as advertised.

Mine is working as expected.
SD card = 14.92 Total Available 11.68 GB (have a lot of photos, music videos and songs)
USB or Internal = 11.50 Total Available = 11.38 CB
Device Memory = 1.60 GB
The difference between actual and stated is for the hidden system files I guess.

does anyone have an answer to my original question?

Dalmus said:
On your SD card, do you have the ringers and notifications in the proper directory tree? Its got to be /media/audio/ringers or /media/audio/notifications
As for free space, when you go to SETTINGS ->STORAGE you should see THREE subsections... The first is your physical SD card, the second is "USB storage" which is the internal space you get to play with, and the third is "Device" storage, which is apparently 2GB instead of the 1GB as advertised.
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As for the ringers, yup. The phone recognizes them when they're on the root of the card, just not in external sd.
And yes I did find storage in settings. Nothing matches up with what the widget shows so... That makes 2 or three apps that I regularly use that aren't working right on this phone.
The internal memory still seems low to me though. In settings it's showing 1.77 GB. I guess the problem here is that I'm not understanding how to use the storage available. On my 3d I have internal phone which is at almost 6 GB with around 100 apps installed. Never have used app to sd applications. My sd card is a 16 GB and its loaded down to about 7 GB free. Music, pics and ringtones all go to the SD card and the phone reads the files and uses them accordingly.
My GSII has about 50 apps and is showing 1.77 GB free, but that drops whenever I download a new app. So it seems as though if I approach 100 apps I'll run out of internal memory. No? That means I have no choice but to use an app to sd application?

GadgetMonger said:
My GSII has about 50 apps and is showing 1.77 GB free, but that drops whenever I download a new app. So it seems as though if I approach 100 apps I'll run out of internal memory. No? That means I have no choice but to use an app to sd application?
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I believe there's 16gb of total storage on the phone.
2gb is reserved for apps.
14gb is reserved for OS and "other" such as photos, media, etc...
If you go into Settings-> Applications -> Manage Applications and select an App that you downloaded, you'll get the option to move the App to the SD card. You might try that.
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maxspiderx said:
Is there an option where I can choose between saving apps or photos into either the USB storage or device memory partition?
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Apps go to your 2gb partition and photos and music will go to the usb partition. You can move stuff from the usb partition to your as card. I downloaded ringtones and moved them to my as card and they work fine. As far as apps go if u download apps2sd supposidly u can move an apps to usb storage that way if u run out of your 2gb.
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musclehead84 said:
Apps go to your 2gb partition and photos and music will go to the usb partition. You can move stuff from the usb partition to your as card. I downloaded ringtones and moved them to my as card and they work fine. As far as apps go if u download apps2sd supposidly u can move an apps to usb storage that way if u run out of your 2gb.
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The problem is that once you move things to the SD card, you can't access them anymore, at least not from inside any apps that I've seen.
I'd love to put a bunch of MP3's and .AVI's on the SD card so I can play them, but none of the movie apps have an option to look at the SD card... Or rather, the CLAIM they look at the SD card, but really they're looking at the internal memory of the phone, not the actual SD card.

I have all of my media (mp3s and videos) on my external SD and they are being read just fine. Most apps will let you specify what location your media is stored. I use Mobo player and it lets you choose where the media directory is, even multiple directories. I use my external SD card so i point to: /mnt/sdcard/externa_sd/what ever folder name you want
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The problem is that once you move things to the SD card, you can't access them anymore, at least not from inside any apps that I've seen.
I'd love to put a bunch of MP3's and .AVI's on the SD card so I can play them, but none of the movie apps have an option to look at the SD card... Or rather, the CLAIM they look at the SD card, but really they're looking at the internal memory of the phone, not the actual SD card.
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[Q] memory - SD - Phone storage ?

i have a question about memory on my phone..
SD card = 7.40GB / 5.38GB free
INternalStorage = 6.4GB / 6.17GB Free?
phone memory = 748MB / 83.7MB free..
how can i utilize the Internal Storage? for contacts perhaps or pics, movies, music, aps?
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Use a file explorer like Astro or ES File Explorer to manually place files (pics, movies, music) on the internal memory. Otherwise, plug your phone into a computer and place the files onto the internal memory. Courtesy of HTC, apps save to the "Phone Memory" using 150 mb's of the 748 mb. The main alternate save location for apps is the sd card thus the reason there is a "Move to sd card" option within each app's settings under "Settings/Applications/Manage Applications."

SlimSnoopOS said:
Use a file explorer like Astro or ES File Explorer to manually place files (pics, movies, music) on the internal memory. Otherwise, plug your phone into a computer and place the files onto the internal memory. Courtesy of HTC, apps save to the "Phone Memory" using 150 mb's of the 748 mb. The main alternate save location for apps is the sd card thus the reason there is a "Move to sd card" option within each app's settings under "Settings/Applications/Manage Applications."
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i have done it threw the computer before.. and i have a file manager.. but it only see the one SD card.. the extrnal one..
the computer sees the 2 Different Cards..
but when i try to find the internal SD card threw a file managers on the phone i can not see where it is.. i see it in settings... but when ever i try to use a file manager or ap manager it only gives me the external card to move aps to?

The 6 GB's of internal memory is listed as "emmc" and is inaccessible only if the rom dev says so. I'm not sure you are searching for the proper term, are you able to see "emmc" within your file manager? I took a look at Wildstang's Desired HD thread and his latest version supports emmc (internal memory). If I recall correctly, earlier versions did not have access to internal GB (the 6GB's of space) because the port is from a phone with no internal storage but this is no longer the case. You should be able to move photos, videos, music to emmc especially since you said have access to it via your computer.
1) Are you on his latest update?
2) What specifically are you asking for help with (moving apps or simply accessing that space)?
Edit: For moving apps, the most I know is that you can move apps to sd or back to your phone. In regards to expanding the 150mb partition of your internal memory, I have no experience doing so. Hopefully someone else can provide input on this.

SlimSnoopOS said:
The 6 GB's of internal memory is listed as "emmc" and is inaccessible only if the rom dev says so. I'm not sure you are searching for the proper term, are you able to see "emmc" within your file manager? I took a look at Wildstang's Desired HD thread and his latest version supports emmc (internal memory). If I recall correctly, earlier versions did not have access to internal GB (the 6GB's of space) because the port is from a phone with no internal storage but this is no longer the case. You should be able to move photos, videos, music to emmc especially since you said have access to it via your computer.
1) Are you on his latest update?
2) What specifically are you asking for help with (moving apps or simply accessing that space)?
Edit: For moving apps, the most I know is that you can move apps to sd or back to your phone. In regards to expanding the 150mb partition of your internal memory, I have no experience doing so. Hopefully someone else can provide input on this.
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thank you for the explanation..
i beleave i am running the latest version. (V.5) of Wildstang
yeah i was just wondering if there was a way to move contacts and aps to that internal memory so the other phone memory would be less crowded and maybe run smoother.
i dont understand how this memory is being used.. there is an internal SD memory.. that i guess is partitioned.. and the smaller partition is used for all the functions of the phone? what is the larger partition used for then?
so i can drop images and music to that section then from the PC
and put aps on the external SD only..

I believe I misinformed you, the 748mb's of of phone storage is all for apps. Im trying to recall where and why I got 150 mb's from.
748 mb = app storage
6.x gb of internal storage (emmc) = Whatever you want to save (music, videos, photos)
7.4 gb sd card = save music, videos, some apps, photos
Hope that clarifies appropriately.
But to use the internal storage, just copy and paste movie or music files to the emmc (if using file explorer on your phone) or using your computer into either "Mp3" folder or "Video" on the Internal memory. I don't play movies on my phone so I don't have experience with that at all. You'll know which is the internal memory vs. Sd card memory if you just look at the space available to identify one from the other.

16GB internal + SD card. How does it work?

how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.

Since the phone has 16GB storage on it, theres no reason to use App2SD at all. You can run all your apps off the phone's 16GB storage.
The 16GB (actually ~11.5GB) comes up as "USB Storage" in Settings > Storage if thats what your wondering.
An SD card will show up separately under SD Card. Though in a file manager, the 16GB onboard shows up as your storage, the SD card under an "external sd" folder

Treefallingquietly said:
how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.
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I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.

Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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satur9ine said:
Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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Yes there is 2gbs for apps. If u use app2sd u can put the apps on the other internal partition thy has 11gb. Works for me when I tried it.
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strongsteve said:
I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.
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This is good to know. So based on all the other comments, Apps go to the internal memory or the extended internal memory and I can keep music/video/books on SD.
thanks all.

Finally got hands on with phone. I noticed the internal memory is listed as USB storage but when I go to app management it doesn't give me the option to move apps out of ram to USB memory, just move to SD card.
What gives?

How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?

Its pretty amazing how much this phone brings to the table... 1gig ram, 16gig internal storage.. this phone keeps.blowing me away, it really does. I am very impressed with samsung. I would be running roms on my evo and it didn't have enough ram to hold the contents of a web pagr if I multi tasked to xda. I would hold the home button and fast switch to the internet again and the browser would have to load it all over again instead of having enough ram to just keep it there. I'm inlove haha

IA-32e said:
How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?
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I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?

This hasn't worked for me. Everytime I try to move apps to internal storage, it says that there is no sd card inserted, and I need to insert one.

Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?

bluefire808 said:
I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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Ok that makes sense.

gedster314 said:
Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?
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+1. I too would love to know if there's a "best practice" for how to manage the storage memory on the EG4T. Should I just put all media in the onboard USB storage, and then only use my SD card as overflow, or are there certain things that might be better put on the SD card? I'm probably overthinking this, but I'd like to get a handle on this now while the device is new and I don't have much on it yet.

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I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.

HappyFillmore said:
I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.
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look into darktremor apps2sd maybe? not claiming it works, just a suggestion

bluefire808 said:
I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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The rom takes up about 3 gigs (just under) and 2 gigs are partitioned for apps. The rest is partitioned as USB Mass Storage (11.5) So 11.5+2+2.5 = 16, thats a rough estimate of how it breaks down anyways. The OS is usually between 2.5-3 gigs depending on how much the manufacturer adds to it. Stock Android is 2 gigs. Sammy doesnt add major bloat so it comes out to like 2.5 to 2.65 gigs. Motorola however usually comes out to 2.75-3 gigs. Which is why I like Sammy. ICS is about 3 gigs stock though, so remember that when you decide to upgrade to ICS later on. You'll be sacrificing memory on a device that wasnt built for it. Sammy added that extra memory for when ICS does come out, just in case. They were aware of the extra memory in ICS.

Link2SD Partially working?

Well, the last time I installed Link2SD, it all went well - I partitioned, and got it set up working. Then I disabled it because I didn't really need it. Now after a few CM7 updates, I've found that I want to use Link2SD again.
So I partitioned my SD card again - 7GB FAT32 for normal storage, 456MB EXT4 for Link2SD.
I set up Link2SD and it created the mount script, I rebooted and found that if I looked at my internal memory size, it's still 150MB. Last time I used Link2SD the partition of my SD card was added onto my internal storage. I can still link apps to the SD partition, but my internal memory still comes up as 150MB, which makes me unable to install any more apps because it thinks it's full.
What have I done wrong? I'm using the latest CM7 build with a class 4 8GB SD card.

Link2SD doesn't adding your external storage to internal, it's just transfer everything you want to external storage. Your phone will say that you have 150 internal memory which is true but the catch is your free space there - if you set your link2SD options like they should be free space shouldn't change almost at all.
My guess is that you had data2SD with you previous ROM you used, that one do just that what you mentioned - add external space to internal (teoreticaly).

kobredabre said:
Link2SD doesn't adding your external storage to internal, it's just transfer everything you want to external storage. Your phone will say that you have 150 internal memory which is true but the catch is your free space there - if you set your link2SD options like they should be free space shouldn't change almost at all.
My guess is that you had data2SD with you previous ROM you used, that one do just that what you mentioned - add external space to internal (teoreticaly).
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I see, looks like I got the two confused then. Thanks for clearing that up for me
I cant really see the point of Link2SD then, since the phone thinks its installed on the internal memory when its installed on the SD partition. Android thinks the internal memory is full and doesn't allow you to install any more apps...
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dudeman1996 said:
I see, looks like I got the two confused then. Thanks for clearing that up for me
I cant really see the point of Link2SD then, since the phone thinks its installed on the internal memory when its installed on the SD partition. Android thinks the internal memory is full and doesn't allow you to install any more apps...
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Hmm it shouldn't be like that at all, something is wrong with you link2SD setup there...
Try this, open link2SD, hit Multi-select and choose Select all. Then hit Actions and choose Create link. That should transfer all apps that could be transferable to external storage (application files, dalvik-cache files and library files) and check your free internal space then (changes maybe not be visible immediatly, do one reebot just for case)
And i guess that you, before that, choosed right file type of your internal storage in link2SD (ext4 in this case). You can see external partition in link2sd's storage info, right?

kobredabre said:
Hmm it shouldn't be like that at all, something is wrong with you link2SD setup there...
Try this, open link2SD, hit Multi-select and choose Select all. Then hit Actions and choose Create link. That should transfer all apps that could be transferable to external storage (application files, dalvik-cache files and library files) and check your free internal space then (changes maybe not be visible immediatly, do one reebot just for case)
And i guess that you, before that, choosed right file type of your internal storage in link2SD (ext4 in this case). You can see external partition in link2sd's storage info, right?
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Yeah EXT4 is fine, it all shows up. Thanks for you help, I'm just gonna go with Data2SD

[Q] [Help] A Single partition and external SD

Hello,
Phone: Samsung galaxy grand i9080L.
Now the question:
Am i able to make a single partition of internal storage? Because the phone came with 8 gb but it have 2 partitions on the internal memory, "System" and "Internal SD" , I just wanna a single one to control better things and as if i move to "SD" Its going to the internal SD and the external (MicroSD) Is not on use -_-

GabrielCool1 said:
Hello,
Phone: Samsung galaxy grand i9080L.
Now the question:
Am i able to make a single partition of internal storage? Because the phone came with 8 gb but it have 2 partitions on the internal memory, "System" and "Internal SD" , I just wanna a single one to control better things and as if i move to "SD" Its going to the internal SD and the external (MicroSD) Is not on use -_-
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You cannot use the system partition as it's reserved for the OS.Don't mess up with it, doing so may/will brick your phone If you are on Stock or ANY ROM with App2SD support you can move apps to External SD Card. Check whether your ROM supports App2SD or not.

Trilochanaaya said:
You cannot use the system partition as it's reserved for the OS.Don't mess up with it, doing so may/will brick your phone If you are on Stock or ANY ROM with App2SD support you can move apps to External SD Card. Check whether your ROM supports App2SD or not.
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I can't, that's why, app2sd move em' to "sdcard0" which means (in my phone) emulated/0/ (Folder) and not to the external sd card. Already tryied many ways and still same, and well so.
What i wanted to do? as "system" is the internal storage i wanted to merge it with "emulated" which is the internal storage but in a partition to emulate a External SD Card so if its only 1 internal storage the microSD will work as it should work, because on my older phone(Ice mobile apollo touch) I was able to see apps, data, etc, on microsd as only had 1 internal storage.. Now as the sdcard is even in the internal , the external is empty. Its a problem too for cracked applications that need data/obb.

GabrielCool1 said:
I can't, that's why, app2sd move em' to "sdcard0" which means (in my phone) emulated/0/ (Folder) and not to the external sd card. Already tryied many ways and still same, and well so.
What i wanted to do? as "system" is the internal storage i wanted to merge it with "emulated" which is the internal storage but in a partition to emulate a External SD Card so if its only 1 internal storage the microSD will work as it should work, because on my older phone(Ice mobile apollo touch) I was able to see apps, data, etc, on microsd as only had 1 internal storage.. Now as the sdcard is even in the internal , the external is empty. Its a problem too for cracked applications that need data/obb.
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What ROM are u using?

Trilochanaaya said:
What ROM are u using?
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4.2.2 supossed to be stock, downloaded from sammobile to my operator/country as my ROM was literaly "f*ck*d" for a stupid thing i did so.
I just searched GT-i9080L and the latest android(4.2.2) was the one i downloaded, btw, the partition came with the phone, wasn't made by me or a rom and also, the phone didn't come new, i bought it from 2nd hand.

In Grand Internal memory will be shown as sdcard0 and External memory will be shown as sdcard1. Is external storage i.e. Sdcard1 mounting for you?

Trilochanaaya said:
In Grand Internal memory will be shown as sdcard0 and External memory will be shown as sdcard1. Is external storage i.e. Sdcard1 mounting for you?
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If i use a explorer i can only see 2. SDCard and internal memory, if i search through internal memory i'll find a folder called emulated, inside, another called 0, inside, all the things that should be on sdcard, which means that this "emulated" emulates a sdcard inside the phone. and yeah, external sd = sdcard1.
internal sd(emulated) = sdcard0
internal memory = internal memory o.o

External is actually /extSdcard on stock ROMs afaik.

akiratoriyama said:
External is actually /extSdcard on stock ROMs afaik.
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I know right, but it isn't used as Sdcard, the sdcard that it uses its a emulated sdcard INSIDE the internal memory.

GabrielCool1 said:
Hello,
Phone: Samsung galaxy grand i9080L.
Now the question:
Am i able to make a single partition of internal storage? Because the phone came with 8 gb but it have 2 partitions on the internal memory, "System" and "Internal SD" , I just wanna a single one to control better things and as if i move to "SD" Its going to the internal SD and the external (MicroSD) Is not on use -_-
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will it work on s2 plus