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I've just found this article, and was not happy to read it:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
This left me very disappointed
Given that we pretty much knew that WP7 wasn't going to be backward compatible software-wise, this one is not that big of a deal. You wouldn't be able to run the old apps anyway. By forcing apps through the marketplace, Microsoft does a clean cut from the old and ugly apps.
What's this got to do with old apps? If you want to install a hack you first need to submit it to Marketplace? Oh! I forgot there's no hacks on WP7....
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What's this got to do with old apps? If you want to install a hack you first need to submit it to Marketplace? Oh! I forgot there's no hacks on WP7....
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You will still be able to load apps on to the device from Visual Studios. It will just require giving out the source to do it. So hacks and such that people don't want to go through marketplace will be able to distribute there code as long as they don't care that everyone will beable to see the source.
Update: Microsoft wanted us to clarify that enterprise customers will be able to deploy apps to employees outside the consumer-facing Marketplace -- details on that will be released in the future.
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Hmmmm. Interesting. Sounds like something that might be exploited by a jail-break procedure.
I think you just have to accept that WP7 never will be "hacker friendly". I'm starting to wonder if there would have been less whining over the WP7 platform if they'd branded it something completely different, like "Splonge" or "Zaarkoft", since its got virtually nothing to do with WP6.5. The community's expectations would maybe been more realistic.
What's sad is of course that the 6.5 series probably won't be developed further and few or no new devices with better hardware will come with 6.5 (or 6.6 or whatver), but I guess there always is ... Android? Or Openmoko or whatever it's called.
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Hmmmm. Interesting. Sounds like something that might be exploited by a jail-break procedure.
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I like this, hopefully we can get ahold of it and exploit it to it's fullest potential.
Idiocracy of the Mobile World
It seems everything is so dumbed these days...making things is a easier to do is fine but damn. For me I hear windows mobile I think mini pc but now it seems things as a whole are headed towards playskool sh!+ for adults. I blame newbies that dont/cant read manuals & use commn sense (u won a lottery u neva heard & u paying money to receive the winnings lol). I also blame the pos companies/people that push malware/spyware/phishing. Windows customization is gift for the tech savy but a curse for impatient eye candy lovers.
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By forcing apps through the marketplace, Microsoft does a clean cut from the old and ugly apps.
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As I see the Marketplace evolving I must state I've never seen so many new and ugly $1-apps. I'd better pay $20 for a well-designed with great UI and functionality or donate something to a as great freeware app than sponsor those marketplace whores that even don't offer a trial.
This is bad for small time developers, people like me (I'm a computer science student) who would never be able to pay the fees to put an app on the market.
At least with Android I can distribute APKs how I like and people can download and install.
Nilzor said:
Given that we pretty much knew that WP7 wasn't going to be backward compatible software-wise, this one is not that big of a deal. You wouldn't be able to run the old apps anyway. By forcing apps through the marketplace, Microsoft does a clean cut from the old and ugly apps.
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I'm not sure what your logic is here. There's no reason to want sideloading unless you want to sideload winmo6 apps?
How about wanting to sideload applications MS doesn't want to compete with or otherwise decides is unsuitable for my delicate sensibilities? How about wanting to sideload content made by indies that can't afford MS's regulatory scheme? How about wanting to sideload content so I can get it direct from my friendly neighborhood developer, with all the incumbent benefits and freedoms thereof instead of submitting myself to the whims of a markplace's DRM mechanisms?
Of course, I'm not exactly blown away by the news. Anyone with half a brain knew once the Zunies were in charge of WinMo this was the inevitable result.
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This is bad for small time developers, people like me (I'm a computer science student) who would never be able to pay the fees to put an app on the market.
At least with Android I can distribute APKs how I like and people can download and install.
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Students can get the fee waived with dreamspark. All you have to do is verify with your school e-mail. I've already done it.
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I've just found this article, and was not happy to read it:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
This left me very disappointed
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I think we have another way...
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Update: Microsoft wanted us to clarify that enterprise customers will be able to deploy apps to employees outside the consumer-facing Marketplace -- details on that will be released in the future.
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This is bad for small time developers, people like me (I'm a computer science student) who would never be able to pay the fees to put an app on the market.
At least with Android I can distribute APKs how I like and people can download and install.
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Ummm, if you're a student u get a free annual subscription. it's annual, Google has it too, but its $25 bucks to sign up while this is $99 like Apple's. If you can't afford $99 a year, you should probably get a job...
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Ummm, if you're a student u get a free annual subscription. it's annual, Google has it too, but its $25 bucks to sign up while this is $99 like Apple's. If you can't afford $99 a year, you should probably get a job...
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any student or do you have to be in that field?? cuz im just taking my basic ed classes so would i qualify?
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I'm not sure what your logic is here. There's no reason to want sideloading unless you want to sideload winmo6 apps?
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Flawed, I know. But I mean, we know up-front that we cannot sideload WP7 apps so It's not like we've been held in the dark here and wasted thousands of hours developing WP7 apps in the belief that we can sideload and distribute the old way. For those of us that still want a "hacker friendly" phone, we still got WP6.5 and competing platforms.
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any student or do you have to be in that field?? cuz im just taking my basic ed classes so would i qualify?
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Any University student (if your University isn't on the Dreamspark list, contact Microsoft)
Highschool students are also eligible (but they require their school to sign up on their behalf)
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Any University student (if your University isn't on the Dreamspark list, contact Microsoft)
Highschool students are also eligible (but they require their school to sign up on their behalf)
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thanks to bad im in community college, but my girl goes to sdsu so maybe i can get it in her name
nvm my school is on the list
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Flawed, I know. But I mean, we know up-front that we cannot sideload WP7 apps so It's not like we've been held in the dark here and wasted thousands of hours developing WP7 apps in the belief that we can sideload and distribute the old way. For those of us that still want a "hacker friendly" phone, we still got WP6.5 and competing platforms.
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I agree, that's a valid point. I don't even think we were in the dark from the first day of WP7s' introduction, before this little confirmation. The moment they sent their hipster zunies out to explain how great it was, at least half of us knew they were using Apple's playbook.
I began to come to terms with migrating to android on day 1, and the stench of betrayal has mostly passed on.
Update: Microsoft wanted us to clarify that enterprise customers will be able to deploy apps to employees outside the consumer-facing Marketplace -- details on that will be released in the future.
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There Will be alternate ways to load apps onto the device, gotten from an updated version of the same article.
reading this from engadget and this is what it says:
No support for microSD cards, though that's partially offset by the requirement for capacious internal storage. Some phones might implement the required internal storage on a microSD card, but it's not supposed to be user-swappable, and if you do switch it out, you'll reset the phone and lose all your data -- but you should be able to get most of it back when you sync with the cloud.
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Is this correct can anyone confirm i think this is relay a disappointing move, i love the minimum 8 gig memory but this really dose put a cap on stuff on your phone, and forcing up to use 3g data plans for cloud syncing, in canada we don`t have any unlimited plans we pay 30$ for 1 gig or data
This is a limitation that puzzles me. Is there some sort of techinical advantage to NOT having a card slot?
This sort of makes me think that WP7 requires external storage to function properly. So having an "optional" card is not an option.
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This is a limitation that puzzles me. Is there some sort of techinical advantage to NOT having a card slot?
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It may be partly an anti-piracy tactic - make sure that if people pay to download songs from Zune, they can't give them to other people just by taking the memory card out. It's probably also tied to the practice of not allowing any software to be installed unless it's downloaded from the marketplace.
It also allows the phone manufacturers to screw more money out of customers. Look at the price difference between the 32GB iPhone 3GS and the 16GB version. Think the extra memory costs that much to include? Nope. But people who need 32GB have no choice but to pay the premium.
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It may be partly an anti-piracy tactic - make sure that if people pay to download songs from Zune, they can't give them to other people just by taking the memory card out. It's probably also tied to the practice of not allowing any software to be installed unless it's downloaded from the marketplace.
It also allows the phone manufacturers to screw more money out of customers. Look at the price difference between the 32GB iPhone 3GS and the 16GB version. Think the extra memory costs that much to include? Nope. But people who need 32GB have no choice but to pay the premium.
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Well, stopping piracy is good for everyone. Overcharging me for a few extra GB's is not cool tho.
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Well, stopping piracy is good for everyone.
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Debatable.
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Well, stopping piracy is good for everyone.
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not for people that use pirated software lol
Well it's good for them too...they just don't realize it
On the contrary, actually, piracy is good for the industry. Do you think Sony would have sold even 10% of the number of original playstations they actually sold if kids hadn't been constantly swapping burned CD's in the playground?
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On the contrary, actually, piracy is good for the industry. Do you think Sony would have sold even 10% of the number of original playstations they actually sold if kids hadn't been constantly swapping burned CD's in the playground?
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Sony doesn't make money off of the hardware FYI (or very little). Profits come from software and licensing.
That's really a dumb justification for stealing anyways.
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Sony doesn't make money off of the hardware FYI (or very little). Profits come from software and licensing.
That's really a dumb justification for stealing anyways.
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Yes, but the point is that once there were a huge number of consoles in use, their owners bought more legitimate software, and more expensive hardware add-ons, so Sony gained financially in the end.
The industry always tries to make out that piracy is immensely damaging, but it does so on the basis of entirely made-up data. They try and get some kind of estimate of how much stuff is downloaded, then work out what that would have sold for if it had all been bought, and then proclaim that they've lost that much money. This is obviously complete bull****, because it assumes that the downloaders would actually have bought the thing in question if it were only available at full price; and most of the time they wouldn't have. People generally download stuff that they still wouldn't have bought even if it were not available for download. Sometimes they even download something illegally as a trial and then buy it legally if they find they like it.
And a lot of the original illegal downloading of mp3's was driven simply by a desire to have a single track in mp3 format; the industry was ridiculously slow to realise the demand for downloads. The people who download illegally the most tend to be the same people who purchase the largest number of legal downloads; but you'll never hear the industry admit that.
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Sony doesn't make money off of the hardware FYI (or very little). Profits come from software and licensing.
That's really a dumb justification for stealing anyways.
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they do make money off the hardware, maybe not with the ps3 yet but as time goes on it gets cheaper to build so they will & thats a good justification for it some people buy two xbox 360 1 for online & 1 to mod so they can have all the games they want
For some reason many IP owners find it a good idea to create tons of hassles for buying their stuff, and I, as a user, often have this funky choice of downloading something for free to have it available and running in minutes or paying, often even going to physical stores (horrors!), and then probably have some crappy DRM attached to what I just bought in hope that nothing breaks down to make it all useless.
Just a few examples: it's impossible to buy digital music where I live - neither iTunes nor Zune nor anyone else sell music here, so pirating is the only option; MS don't sell Win 7 as upgrades to Vista here, only full retail versions, so you have to pay $500 instead of $200, and then get no download option either; iGo, the satnav app I use, is sold on SD cards and have no download option for WM - hell I'm not using a separate card for just one app! And then the most glorious example - the iPhone, where they locked app installation procedure together with advanced settings, using the same mechanism. So you unlock settings and get access to free stuff in one move. That, together with no try before you buy option in appstore.
So, I don't know if piracy is good or bad for the industry, but I'm sure the industry's stupidities are one of the major causes for piracy. Only in digital you find that stuff you pay for is less convenient and causes more hassle than free stuff. It just can't work without at least some people getting pissed off and looking for workarounds.
so is microsoft setting up a itune store for mp3?
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
if we need a simple phone, we will get nokia!
its like returning to iphone 1, with no mms, no a2dp
I think WinMo 7 should have a professional version target for us!
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so is microsoft setting up a itune store for mp3?
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Yeeeess! Where have u been? They have complete Zune functionality in WP7. There already exists the Zune mp3 site.
WP7 is the FIRST of the "iPhone killers" to compete with Apple on ALL levels and then some. No other smartphone has done so thus far.
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WP7 is the FIRST of the "iPhone killers" to compete with Apple on ALL levels and then some. No other smartphone has done so thus far.
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To say that WP7 is going to compete with iPhone is like saying Lady Gaga is going to compete against Michael Jackson's music.
People who own iPhone, do so because it's the fashion, much like why they owned iPods. People owned them because it was a fashion statement, not because it's functional. How many people you know own an iPhone and use it as a smart phone? Lots of people I know **** with the thing for 3 months, and then forget it's a smart phone and just use it as a phone.
It's not like Phone7 is going to be a fashion statement like Apple's products are. That's why Zune could never catch a decent share of the mp3 player market.
iPhone will go the way of the Nike shoe. Many people will have them, and will spend lots of money for them. In the end, it's a fad, and will fade away.
Phone7 is just Microsoft's way of trying to capitalize on the software market craze. As iPhone owners buy lots of applications, Microsoft is hoping to benefit the same way with their own marketplace. So of course, DRM is very important.
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yep totally have you heard gabe newalls take on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87pevh2Q0hg
he see's piracy for what it is and he's a developer and publisher, but also a geek and a gamer
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yep totally have you heard gabe newalls take on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87pevh2Q0hg
he see's piracy for what it is and he's a developer and publisher, but also a geek and a gamer
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WOW, he really understands the market, unreal, I have never heard any "expert" talk like that about piracy. Def worth watching (8+min long).
As for the topic on hand, this will almost be a deal breaker for me. SD cards are important for content I own to move it between computers or anything else. It has to be on a current device.
Just why do people think SD card support removal from WP7 has anything to do with piracy, BTW?
Think about it - what would you do with the card there? It doesn't have file system access, no file browser, and no way to use a file you copy to this card for anything. It's not any more difficult to put a pirated mp3 to Zune HD or iPod than a legal one (actually, it's much easier, but anyway).
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It's not like Phone7 is going to be a fashion statement like Apple's products are. That's why Zune could never catch a decent share of the mp3 player market.
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I don't know about that. Actually, WP7 seems so far to be the first smartphone platform apart from the iPhone to deliver experience that could make a device that I can buy for my wife as a Christmas gift. In some ways, which I know are important to her, it will certainly excel (video codec support, Zune desktop software, all the facebook stuff built in etc.). It obviously looks different and will stand out on retail shelves. I think the design will look gorgeous on amoled screens (the videos and screenshots and even low-pixel-density PC screens surely steal some of its appeal). One could argue that the "original thing", the iPhone, may be better, but the problem is, she already has one, as do all of her friends. It's difficult to stand out with the iPhone when you go into a Starbucks or board a plane. So the iPhone does have limitations as a fashion item. I'm sure no single WP7 model will beat the iPhone, so I'm reluctant to use the silly media label, "iPhone killer", but it's relatively understandable how to beat Apple in terms of market share.
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To say that WP7 is going to compete with iPhone is like saying Lady Gaga is going to compete against Michael Jackson's music.
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Isn't she?
People who own iPhone, do so because it's the fashion, much like why they owned iPods. People owned them because it was a fashion statement, not because it's functional. How many people you know own an iPhone and use it as a smart phone? Lots of people I know **** with the thing for 3 months, and then forget it's a smart phone and just use it as a phone.
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Not the many people I know with iPhones. They seem quite enthusiastic about all of their apps.
To say iPhone is a trend is to insinuate that the smartphone industry is eventually going to revert back to the old WM way of doing things. Surely you don't mean this do you?
It's not like Phone7 is going to be a fashion statement like Apple's products are. That's why Zune could never catch a decent share of the mp3 player market.
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Zune doesn't have iTunes tie-ins like iWhatever. I don't expect any mp3 site to beat iTunes anytime soon, so therefore Apple products will always have the advantage in that regard. I believe that currently iTunes is the largest music retailer.
Just because Apple is #1 in this segment doesn't mean #2 can't do well. Hell, for that matter, Apple isn't even the #1 smartphone maker and it isn't hurting them
As far as fashion statements goes, I work in a nightclub and have YET to see any type of phone used as a fashion statement.
Well yes, Microsoft did bought skype (read it HERE ) and that means Windows 7 and WP7 get special treatment =)
"It is assumed that the main motive of Microsoft (Ballmer) to buy Skype just for Windows phone 7 Phone Nokia in cooperation with the integration of VOIP services in the system as a competitive option Voice Google and Apple Facetime."
well, 8.705 billion $ is a lot of money for something like skype
It is a lot of money, however you have to assume that it is a fairly profitable company that should pay for itself and in addition bring features to the WP7 platform
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well, 8.705 billion $ is a lot of money for something like skype
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My sentiments also. To me, Skype is junk and I can't see how MS can make anything good of it.
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My sentiments also. To me, Skype is junk and I can't see how MS can make anything good of it.
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Can't be that bad if 663 Million people use it.
I think this is great gives microsoft another weapon in their arsenal to use for WP7 & Xbox.
Just think of being able to talk to someone on your wp7 to someone using kinect with the xbox hooked upto their tv etc
Well, well, well. Maybe we'll see a Skypephone that doesn't suck then
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Can't be that bad if 663 Million people use it.
I think this is great gives microsoft another weapon in their arsenal to use for WP7 & Xbox.
Just think of being able to talk to someone on your wp7 to someone using kinect with the xbox hooked upto their tv etc
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I think the acquisition will be perfect for integration with their live services, as well as providing a unified solution to communication
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I think the acquisition will be perfect for integration with their live services, as well as providing a unified solution to communication
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I completely agree with you but the price seems crazy. I don't see Microsoft making their money back anytime soon.
i think MS knows what they are doing...
Skeype is a good tool for business ppl to be mobile and still keep the same number..
Skype Pro services are not bad too.
i am not sure how good or bad MS take over of Skype for Android users....
anyway the Windows live will be intigreted in the peoples hub in WP7.5 n and if Skype will be as well then i think it will be great for us as users..
So..... what was wrong with WLM? Doesn't it already do video chat?
Someone please explain? Or is this a way to hold off the competition because Skype is already on just about every OS.
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So..... what was wrong with WLM? Doesn't it already do video chat?
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I don't think video chat is the key thing here.
vetvito said:
Someone please explain? Or is this a way to hold off the competition because Skype is already on just about every OS.
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I can't "explain" it, and nobody seems to be able to make total sense of this acquisition. While individual pieces may be reasonable, the price tag is just outrageous.
I mean, VoIP may be useful, Skype together with WLM will be one big IM network, but there just isn't so much money as to justify the price.
If Google got Skype that would probably be bad for MS's "cloud" push, Google is already to big in online. But still, 8.5bn? In cash? Jesus...
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I don't think video chat is the key thing here.
If Google got Skype that would probably be bad for MS's "cloud" push, Google is already to big in online. But still, 8.5bn? In cash? Jesus...
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Why would Google want Skype? They have Google Voice.
nowei said:
Why would Google want Skype? They have Google Voice.
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So what? Microsoft has Lync, that didn't stop them. Hardly anyone uses these things though. And Google was negotiating with Skype, too.
zamana said:
8.5 billion is peanuts to Google. Why didn't they bought Skype? Is Google losing the plot?
Google, open your eyes!!!
Now Microsoft will infest Skype with their junk MSN...
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So what? This only makes currently crippled Skype better.
Think about it... Microsoft just bought a **** ton of patents relating to VOIP. It's pre-emptively striking.
I like it, I use WLM and Skype. One less service when they roll them up together
600k new members signing up a day is why they bought Skype.
A good deal that fits nicely into their portfolio and with $50b spare cash reserves why not.
Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster
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Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster
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Why? WP7 is not their main focus, it is a by-product. Kinnect sells like cupcakes, so Xbox+kinnect+Skype is the priority.
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Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster
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Mango is in beta phase or will be in beta soon, everything after is to guarentee the quality.
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Could have spent that $8 billion and got Mango out faster
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LOL....no lie. Know what makes sense of this deal? Ballmer. Period. Wild hair, woke up on the wrong side of the bed, paranoia that Google is actually a single person who replaces all his furniture with exact replicas while he sleeps...who the hell knows why Ballmer does some of the retarded stuff he does. But it only makes sense when you consider it not as a Microsoft deal but as a Ballmer deal. I'll be interested in seeing how quickly Microsoft turns Skype into the Visual FoxPro of VOIP. Visual what? Yeah, exactly.
I've recently sideloaded kinectimals the sims 3 and PES2011. As i played those games i earned arcievements but only on DFT ROM 7720 v2.
Did somebody else had with these games Xbox live arcivements ?
You can look at my xbl account: joseastrada999
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Are you sure? this is great!))
Stop piracy!!!!
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Stop piracy!!!!
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why are you saying that ?
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tessut
Are you sure? this is great!))
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try it out but do not post any xap's here in the forum !
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why are you saying that ?
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Sideloading a game sounds like the game is being pirated. There is no supported method to buy a game then sideload it in the WP7 marketplace.
The only way that this is possably legal is if the OP paid for the game, then sideloaded it but, even then it's questionable.
As I am wondering how this works, it's stil a questionable in a legal aspect, so I will not continue the discussion.
Personally, this promotes piracy (with the DFT rom you can still get achivements off downloaded Xbox live games) and this thread should be closed...if not deleted.
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Sideloading a game sounds like the game is being pirated. There is no supported method to buy a game then sideload it in the WP7 marketplace.
The only way that this is possably legal is if the OP paid for the game, then sideloaded it but, even then it's questionable.
As I am wondering how this works, it's stil a questionable in a legal aspect, so I will not continue the discussion.
Personally, this promotes piracy (with the DFT rom you can still get achivements off downloaded Xbox live games) and this thread should be closed...if not deleted.
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+1. Honestly, I can't comprehend why people - running a round with a device worth a couple of a hundred dollars - refuse to pay 2 or 3 dollars for a game or app. That's just weak.
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+1. Honestly, I can't comprehend why people - running a round with a device worth a couple of a hundred dollars - refuse to pay 2 or 3 dollars for a game or app. That's just weak.
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ok i agree with you but if you paid a game and on the other account you did'nt buy it idont think that you will buy a game twice ?
I use DFT V1, installed DFT V2 and now i am using ansar mango rom as for now but i need more time i like more ansar mango roms since in the about and on screens looks more like the original rom
In before the close. yea sounds like those games were pirated to me. while i do agree with buying games i do not like to buy apps because something better will always come along AND it might get baked into future updates.
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In before the close. yea sounds like those games were pirated to me. while i do agree with buying games i do not like to buy apps because something better will always come along AND it might get baked into future updates.
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And that makes it okay? Gtfoh, these developers bust their asses to deliver great products to us, and some of you guys believe the world should be free. It must be nice envisioning a communist society, some of you even live in one. But, considering I'm not a communist or socialist, I think the arguments to support piracy on this forum are ridiculous. I really hope those new encryption updates by Microsoft stop this BS and ban anybody's gamertag who used a stolen game.
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And that makes it okay? Gtfoh, these developers bust their asses to deliver great products to us, and some of you guys believe the world should be free. It must be nice envisioning a communist society, some of you even live in one. But, considering I'm not a communist or socialist, I think the arguments to support piracy on this forum are ridiculous. I really hope those new encryption updates by Microsoft stop this BS and ban anybody's gamertag who used a stolen game.
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no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
the games played on mango ssonic , bunker buster, armor voley , attack from the dead, alpha strike .....
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no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
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In fact, the payment system records what games you have bought all through. Once you would like to install it again (on same Live account), they will ask you if you would like to installed it again now as you have already paid for that.
I haven't met the double payment for the same app so far.
Even pressing "buy" still doesn't mean you have already bought and paid, instead they will ask you if you really want to pay as there is no refund for it. You may have a try.
tessut said:
no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
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Payment system works just fine. I've actually uninstalled and installed many apps that I've paid for. Nothing makes stealing okay.
FiyaFleye said:
Payment system works just fine. I've actually uninstalled and installed many apps that I've paid for. Nothing makes stealing okay.
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not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
tessut said:
not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
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That still is not an excuse to pirate. Most banks offer pre-paid creditcard options for this type of stuff.
Now days if you open any checking account (at least in the US) you expect to get a debit card with a Visa/Mastercard logo on it.
As I 100% agree with you, everyone thought, Xbox live=Xbox points before WP7 came out. I would like the option myself but, it should not make you pirate.
If you can afford the collection of phones that you have had or have, I am sure you can afford a $2-5 game or app here and there. If you can not, sell your smart phone and go buy a fip phone. You should not be here in the first place.
tessut said:
not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
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Look up Virtual/Disposable credit cards, they can be very useful even if you do have a credit card because you can get them for one time uses.
xHausx said:
Look up Virtual/Disposable credit cards, they can be very useful even if you do have a credit card because you can get them for one time uses.
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i just bought a t-mobile Card so i can Pay With my sim Card
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A few minutes ago on twitter:
@LazywormApps
Today is a very sad day for us. We apologize for this unfortunate situation and promise to make it up to you all...
http://lazywormapps.com/
http://lazywormapps.com/letterToCustomers.pdf
http://www.wpcentral.com/metrotube-be-discontinued-after-january-1st
Honestly, that sucks ****. One of the best and outstanding apps for Windows Phone is gonna be pulled from the marketplace. Let me get this straight.. I don't blame the developers (LazywormApps), since they decided to follow the terms of service that apply to Youtube.com. I blame Google for not providing the appropriate API or at least allow the use of workarounds.
It think this is a pretty good reason to show our support, even though I'm currently now sure about how exactly. Maybe turn to Google support, or Microsoft? Or whatever. I'm sure if enough users help, things could change.
Pretty ****ed up :/
I wonder if google will ever release more APIs...
its a real shame
That sucks, Windows Phone gets a bit less appealing everyday.
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Peew971 said:
That sucks, Windows Phone gets a bit less appealing everyday.
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I wonder if we are so app-centric in a people-centric UI!
What a lame argument, you can't get the experience you get from MetroTube without an app. Apps are important, those saying otherwise are just lunatics.
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Google are the reason they are pulling it:
“Unfortunately, Google has refused to allow Microsoft’s new Windows Phones to access this YouTube metadata in the same way that Android phones and iPhones do. As a result, Microsoft’s YouTube “app” on Windows Phones is basically just a browser displaying YouTube’s mobile Web site, without the rich functionality offered on competing phones. Microsoft is ready to release a high quality YouTube app for Windows Phone. We just need permission to access YouTube in the way that other phones already do, permission Google has refused to provide.”
http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-our-windows-phone-7-youtube-app-sucks-because-of-google/
Peew971 said:
What a lame argument, you can't get the experience you get from MetroTube without an app. Apps are important, those saying otherwise are just lunatics.
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It's in no a way an argument! However the fact that absence of an app made it so unappealing should definitely be classified as app-centric user who knowing that the OS lacks apps should have bought an android in first place!
I wonder why metrotube did not mention Google Restriction on MetaData and said HD as the reason
And if that is so How did the App work ?
wpxbox said:
I wonder why metrotube did not mention Google Restriction on MetaData and said HD as the reason
And if that is so How did the App work ?
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If my memory serve me right, they used some undocumented api and some TOC violation to make HD video available to WP7, I didn't keep the source link, maybe someone here can help?
Lol that's my luck.....i just purchased it two days ago! I've typically just used the browser but heard so many good things about the app I figured I'd give it a shot. What a shame because it actually is a very nice app.
We want metrotube even without HQ/HD streaming!
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We want metrotube even without HQ/HD streaming!
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Go ahead and tell @LazywormApps
That's sucks, and I paid for this app.
Oh well, supertube will suffice. Lets blame Google.
I can't believe Google is STILL blocking wp7 from this. I really want to know why they are doing this, and even more how they are allowed to block only a single platform.
dtboos said:
I can't believe Google is STILL blocking wp7 from this. I really want to know why they are doing this, and even more how they are allowed to block only a single platform.
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What makes me wonder is the fact that there's a very well working YouTube app for XBox 360. So why is the API officially available for THIS specific Microsoft platform, but not for Windows Phone?
It could just come down to not wanting the competition to have a feature that you use as a major selling point. The Xbox platform doesn't compete with Android, but WP7 does.
With iOS, the contract between YouTube and Apple was established before there was an Android platform (and, I suspect, before the Google acquisition of YouTube was completed). But, since the contract is already in place, I suspect that Google's hands are tied on that front (at least until the terms of the contract expire, if ever).
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It could just come down to not wanting the competition to have a feature that you use as a major selling point. The Xbox platform doesn't compete with Android, but WP7 does.
With iOS, the contract between YouTube and Apple was established before there was an Android platform (and, I suspect, before the Google acquisition of YouTube was completed). But, since the contract is already in place, I suspect that Google's hands are tied on that front (at least until the terms of the contract expire, if ever).
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+1
I have a samsung focus and an HTC flyer. I am amazed to see heavenly lag free browsing, no force closes, tightest social integration, apps managemnt with games going to Xbox category, all photos in one place, office, skydrive, etc etc on my focus. Mango is plain awesome. As for phone, I don't need an android phone after seeing the performance of my flyer vis a vis my focus. Though flyer is not bad in performance, I just wish there were mango tablets available in market. I will definitely go for a mango or tango tablet once it is available in market.
That's why Google is afraid of this new age os.
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anyone tried supertube
can anybody try to capture the application? i think that could be the best thing. So in the future we could just deploy this app with a xap deployer.