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After examining the Voip.CAB I can post some consideration:
The Voip cab provides some dlls, an xml file and add some reg values, no exe to run. There is no way to use SIP features until we get a Radio rom wm6 version.
the dlls interacts with the RADIO rom, giving the apropriate setting in the Options screen of Phone setting, and they give the Today plugin too.
The ipdialplan.xml is the Dial Plan that owr Phone app will use to know when it must use regular GSM line or IP phone service, taking a look inside you will see the patterns and the standard SIP "Dial" command (Advanced users of sjphone will easily understand), example: for calling user 911 on the server microsoft.com you'll use Dial command like: SIP:[email protected]
By now, the only thing that we need is an interface.
Maybe Microsoft has decided to put SIP features to their standard Phone app, and I agree with this, because this will be more simple to use and trasparent to the user: The Dialplan will decide about the LCR (Low Cost Routing)
Hope to see a Radio-wm6-rom capable soon ,)
Bummer!
The main reason I flashed my ROM was that I thought there was an integrated SIP client!
So do you think when this happens we will only need to reflash the radio ROM?
I reeeeealy need this as SJPhone is OK but not integrated and a bit of a bloat...
Maybe
I heard about a Chinese Radio Rom that came with the vanilla version of the WM6 build that many of us have flashed.. If I could get it..
VOIP
Just use Skype, works fine!
Cheers, Leo
Well, thanks for that constructive answer... It's as if someone was asking for a way to get his car running with a missing part and you say "Why, just use a motorbike!" Sure, Skype gets the job done, but it is years away from being a flexible and truly usable solution on the PPC. And that's putting it nicely. Skype is just a pain to use for any serious mobile telephony. An integrated SIP client with the capability to choose the provider I want beats Skype to the bandwidth hogging pulp that it really is. So let's all hope that there will be a radio rom that allows us to use SIP soon ~
Ooops!
Sorry about that, sometimes I can be such aaa....
It wasn't my intention!
Cheers, Leo
Falk said:
Well, thanks for that constructive answer... It's as if someone was asking for a way to get his car running with a missing part and you say "Why, just use a motorbike!" Sure, Skype gets the job done, but it is years away from being a flexible and truly usable solution on the PPC. And that's putting it nicely. Skype is just a pain to use for any serious mobile telephony. An integrated SIP client with the capability to choose the provider I want beats Skype to the bandwidth hogging pulp that it really is. So let's all hope that there will be a radio rom that allows us to use SIP soon ~
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Skype
I agree, it would be nice to have the SIP client.
But I find it unfair to criticize Skype. Has any of you tried the latest version (2.2) on a Wizard running WM6. It's amazingggggggg. Works smoothly and has far more options than will any SIP client for quiet many years...
Ciao,
Antoine
Hello guys
I'll be the first to admit this is a newbie question, but I don't have the energy to try every ROM and every SIP solution, can someone recommend a WM6 SIP solution thats working for them, ideally I want to use the built in WM6 SIP system as an additional app is just a bit clumsy.
Cheers, this information is invaluable for a lot of people I imagine, I want to go install AX3Ls but it mentions it doens't do SIP.
Thanks again
Ed
With a 30 secs search, you would have found (among others) this, for the native SIP capabiliy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316853&highlight=shaps
For an external, more complete and stable application, try Sjphone -> google
riri22 said:
With a 30 secs search, you would have found (among others) this, for the native SIP capabiliy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316853&highlight=shaps
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This is just a voip config tool, package is missing over there.
And even if this guy is at his first post, his question is a good question and I can not answer: I don't know any rom for trinity with a serious voip capability.
Ciao
Is the VOIP support built into every build of WM6 then? You just need to install a cab and config tool to get it up and running?
I'd really like to here peoples experiences, I'm not aiming for anything to adventurous just want it to hook up to a voip service when it sees my wifi.
Cheers
Ed
edpgc said:
Is the VOIP support built into every build of WM6 then? You just need to install a cab and config tool to get it up and running?
I'd really like to here peoples experiences, I'm not aiming for anything to adventurous just want it to hook up to a voip service when it sees my wifi.
Cheers
Ed
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You can find a post full of reply here with a lot of information...
I'm still using fring for voip calls because with trinity and wm6 there is a problem with a driver. But some people say voip is fully functional for them.. but as to me they don't really use it.
Voip support in built into wm6, but OEM have to provide their drivers and dopod didn't released it.
Ciao
claros said:
This is just a voip config tool, package is missing over there.
And even if this guy is at his first post, his question is a good question and I can not answer: I don't know any rom for trinity with a serious voip capability.
Ciao
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The package of dll etc. is already present on wm6. Most of the people who dont see it is because they haven't activated their explorer to see all files. But if you think it's necessary for some ROM, not the Dopod one I can confirm, the wm6VoIP.cab package is everywhere on the forum...
Nobody said his question was bad or wrong, I just said that a universal config tool and feature package was available on the forum, and findable after a quick search.
As far as which ROM is best for VoIP, I think nobody has tried the hundred of ROM available to give an objective and comprehensive answer.
As far as I am concerned, I tried VoIP on only one ROM, the dopod one. It works not too bad, but just as a complementary feature as he said himself.
Third party's sofware with all the complete package and optimisation will always works better. That's why I suggested Sjphone...
Anything wrong with me answering that?
I'm using fring as well at the moment. It's pretty cool. Works with skype too!
I've heard that Fring wasn't working on Trinity, due to mic problems.
Can you confirm that the other person can hear you well, when calling landlines with Fring?
(using Fring SIP features)
riri22 said:
The package of dll etc. is already present on wm6. Most of the people who dont see it is because they haven't activated their explorer to see all files. But if you think it's necessary for some ROM, not the Dopod one I can confirm, the wm6VoIP.cab package is everywhere on the forum...
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I never use explorer.... Actually I don't have an official dopod rom but I can do a search on all the files on the extracted rom. Please have a look at the attachment.
Ciao
never heard of fring until now, its very neat, a bit cosmetically confused, but should be a very neat solution!
claros said:
Hum...
I never use explorer.... Actually I don't have an official dopod rom but I can find a search on all the included files on the extracted rom. Please have a look at the attachment
Ciao
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Yeah, I see that. But all I can say is that, once installed, when I browse the windows main directory, I can find all the files listed as necessary for the native SIP feature to work.
ipdialplan.xml
dnsapi.dll
voipphonecanvas.dll
rtcdll.dll
Dopod SEA inside
But that's not the point anyway, as I said, there are something like 10 differents threads that includes the pack wm6voip.cab for those who don't have the sip files natively. And it's findable with a 30 secs search...
But u'll need also the configuration tool to set up your sip account.
riri22 said:
I've heard that Fring wasn't working on Trinity, due to mic problems.
Can you confirm that the other person can hear you well, when calling landlines with Fring?
(using Fring SIP features)
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It is still a beta I think but seem to work, even if it is very slow especially if you have a lot of contacts to import. But sjphone doesn't have this feature.
Both (fring and sjphone) lacks of dialplan and number rewriting rules.
I think you have installed vm6voip in your dopod, so you can find voip files. If we had a really working rtcdll.dll for trinity we shouldn't use such programs for internet telephony. If you think I'm wrong, please post your rtcdll.dll so I can check version and functions.
As to me Dopod, as a gsm carrier, didn't provide this package for customers. I hope in the future htc wwe release it will be present.
Ciao
claros said:
It is still a beta I think but seem to work, even if it is very slow especially if you have a lot of contacts to import. But sjphone doesn't have this feature.
Both (fring and sjphone) lacks of dialplan and number rewriting rules.
I think you have installed vm6voip in your dopod, so you can find voip files. If we had a really working rtcdll.dll for trinity we shouldn't use such programs for internet telephony. If you think I'm wrong, please post your rtcdll.dll so I can check version and functions.
As to me Dopod, as a gsm carrier, didn't provide this package for customers. I hope in the future htc wwe release it will be present.
Ciao
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I've never said native SIP was working great on Trinity, I've just said the contrary: as the first poster of the thread stated, it can only be an alternative solution, but the third parties software (with all features AND optimizations included will always work better)
The reason is very simple:
It's not only a matter of rtcdll, it has more to do with the settings, specially the codecs one.
It is possible to fix though, but then It requires many additional tweaks, and I don't think it's worth the effort, since the third parties sofwares are there and working.
P.S.: I don't understand why you are so insistant on one file...
there are 4 of them dedicated to native SIP service. As I said, I think I had them all, before installing wm6voip.cab patches.
But the point is for any one missing one of them, or leazy to check, there are 10 wm6voip.cab on this forum to get them all installed in one click.
As I stated before: wm6voip.cab, and several SIP configuration tools are available on the forum.
After trying some of them, I like the shap's one and suggested it to the author of the thread.
But I confirm: none of them as perfect-already-ready-sound-quality
U need to tweak your codecs, according to your SIP provider requirements.
claros said:
It is still a beta I think but seem to work, even if it is very slow especially if you have a lot of contacts to import. But sjphone doesn't have this feature.
Both (fring and sjphone) lacks of dialplan and number rewriting rules.
I think you have installed vm6voip in your dopod, so you can find voip files. If we had a really working rtcdll.dll for trinity we shouldn't use such programs for internet telephony. If you think I'm wrong, please post your rtcdll.dll so I can check version and functions.
As to me Dopod, as a gsm carrier, didn't provide this package for customers. I hope in the future htc wwe release it will be present.
Ciao
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I don't think so.
For having tried both, I can confirm Fring do have number rewriting rules. It works great.
(my sip provider requires the numbers to start with 00. My contacts are recorded with + not 00.
Therefore, when I use the regular dialpad and native SIP features, it gives me an error.
But when I use Fring, it convert the numbers automatically, and and I can call through.
My only concern with Fring, was to make sure that the other person can hear me when I use the SIP features.
I don't have the confirmation. When I use the test call feature, It doesn't seem to hear me and cannot record my voice.
Since my account is not credited (big bug with the provider console on the net) I can't make sure about it.
Except if there is someone using voipbdiscount wanting to test.
Bye
I found that fring works fine. I haven't tried sip through it as yet but the fring test call worked fine (test call is just like the Skype test call).
It is pretty easy to download and test it anyway. Very easy to set up. I tried some other sip software recently and found them all far too complex to get up and running.
Thanks for the info.
I may try again and see whether or not the test-call feature can record my voice this time.
Yeah, Fring is simple to set up and it's great to have msn/skype/and sip provider in the same interface.
I strongly disagree that the Trinity problem is codec related. I tried different VOIP solutions with 4 SIP providers and NONE of them gave me reliable results.
I still hope the final HTC WM6 will include proper VOIP since I seriously doubt your "its the codec's fault"-story.
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I strongly disagree that the Trinity problem is codec related. I tried different VOIP solutions with 4 SIP providers and NONE of them gave me reliable results.
I still hope the final HTC WM6 will include proper VOIP since I seriously doubt your "its the codec's fault"-story.
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Sorry but inside the official european tytn wm6 there is no voip support.
As tytn and trin are brother I dubt voip will be supported on an official htc european rom, if any...
As to me, from past investigations, the problem is on an audio driver that can not access the system speaker, but the system modify itself after first use and I cant understand why...
I've found some device identifier in the registry under RTC, seem to work only by earpiece and locks if I try to use a bt earpiece..
Can't remember anything else, and I haven't enough time to investigate more...
Ciao
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Hi,
Any suggestion for an application (Other Than MS Voicecomand) that ANNOUNCES INCOMING CALLER ID / NAME, that is incoming call information is announced as calls are received.
Microsoft Voice cammand certainly has this feature, however for mysterious reasons, all but this feature DOES NOT work on Xperia.
Pl. share information if you have any successful experiance with such an application.
Best regards
I'd be very much interested in such an application.
I think it would just be nice if someone could figure out how to fix MSVC on the Xperia. I love MSVC, use it a lot, but I'd love to get this feature working.
TellME
Microsofts coming product "TellME" has this feature if Im not mistaken.
Latest I heard was that its gonna be included in WM 6.5 final ver.
Nice await with anticipation
I got MSVC working with Touchx assign left key to start it works a treat
djdanger said:
I got MSVC working with Touchx assign left key to start it works a treat
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We all have got MSVC "working" (voice dialing, voice commands, reading out sms and e-mail subjects - all that works fine), but not the 'announcing incoming caller names'. Did you get that to work?
This is a known bug of MS Voice Command 6 on all HTC devices (not able to text-to-speech caller id). It will be fixed on version 7, but I don't know if one day the next version will be released. MS is now focusing on Windows Mobile 6.5 ... with new acquired TellMe product.
So let's hope they will not make Voice Command discontinued !
GuiPoM said:
This is a known bug of MS Voice Command 6 on all HTC devices (not able to text-to-speech caller id). It will be fixed on version 7, but I don't know if one day the next version will be released. MS is now focusing on Windows Mobile 6.5 ... with new acquired TellMe product.
So let's hope they will not make Voice Command discontinued !
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I used MSVC (1.6.19214) on HTC TyTN II and text-to-speech caller id worked (both on WM6.0 and the with the later WM6.1 update which f****d up GPS).
I saw a Visual Voicemail .cab that was ripped from the (touch screen) T-Mobile HD2's ROM and it got me curious...
I did some googling and found that T-Mobile's official 6.5 upgrade for the Dash 3G (non-touch QVGA, just like our beloved Excalibur) also came with visual voicemail. TMo's update was actually good for something, ha.
I extracted the VVM package from T-Mo's official Dash3G 6.5 ROM and compared those files with the files in the HD2-ripped .cab.
The registry settings and .dll's (down to the MD5 checksum) are the same. The only difference is, of course, the .exe.
Attached are the QVGA non-touch Smartphone vvm.exe from T-Mobile's 6.5 Dash 3G ROM and the .cab from the HD2, which was originally posted in thread #613855 (can't post URLs sorry.)
DIRECTIONS:
Install the .cab, delete /Windows/vvm.exe & replace it with this non-touch vvm.exe, then soft reset (reboot.)
For Visual Voicemail to work, you must have Visual Voicemail on your plan. You have to call 611 (say "tech support") and tell them to add Visual Voicemail (free) to your plan. If they struggle with that, tell them you have a Dash 3G. Others have had success by logging into My T-Mobile, temporarily changing their phones to Dash 3G/Bold 9700/Android, and then adding Visual Voicemail to their services. (You can then change back to a Dash if you'd like.)
ISSUES:
1. Getting CHome plugin to open Visual Voicemail app instead of dialing voicemail (Not sure if that's normal behavior. In any case, opening VVM instead would be the preferred behavior. Registry/dll edit hints?)
2. Dual Voicemail notification icons. It keeps the greyscale/standard one and adds its own colorful icon. See screenshot in post below... I'd like to disable one.
Just my small contribution to the community that's given me so much.
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One of the cool features is you can save the voicemails locally as .amr files.
If somebody wants to make a cleaner .cab, here's the EXT package extracted from the ROM in a .zip... Lemme know if you need any other files.
\EXT\Captain\21854\Captain_External_Packages\VVM_1_0_9_RAW1\
Next project: HTC Youtube, much better than Youtube's official app.
This is pretty cool, good job OP!
Hmmm...I would LOVE to use this with my DASH, unfortunately, I don't use T-Mobile voicemail...I have Google Voice.
BUT THIS GIVES ME AN IDEA...
If i have time, I'll try to see if it is possible to make a Visual Voicemail for GoogleVoice! *Now i am off to google like crazy!*
question about this....
notreally said:
I saw a Visual Voicemail .cab that was ripped from the (touch screen) T-Mobile HD2's ROM and it got me curious...
I did some googling and found that T-Mobile's official 6.5 upgrade for the Dash 3G (non-touch QVGA, just like our beloved Excalibur) also came with visual voicemail. TMo's update was actually good for something, ha.
I extracted the VVM package from T-Mo's official Dash3G 6.5 ROM and compared those files with the files in the HD2-ripped .cab.
The registry settings and .dll's (down to the MD5 checksum) are the same. The only difference is, of course, the .exe.
Attached are the QVGA non-touch Smartphone vvm.exe from T-Mobile's 6.5 Dash 3G ROM and the .cab from the HD2, which was originally posted in thread #613855 (can't post URLs sorry.)
DIRECTIONS:
Install the .cab, delete /Windows/vvm.exe & replace it with this non-touch vvm.exe, then soft reset (reboot.)
For Visual Voicemail to work, you must have Visual Voicemail on your plan. You have to call 611 (say "tech support") and tell them to add Visual Voicemail (free) to your plan. If they struggle with that, tell them you have a Dash 3G. Others have had success by logging into My T-Mobile, temporarily changing their phones to Dash 3G/Bold 9700/Android, and then adding Visual Voicemail to their services. (You can then change back to a Dash if you'd like.)
ISSUES:
1. Getting CHome plugin to open Visual Voicemail app instead of dialing voicemail (Not sure if that's normal behavior. In any case, opening VVM instead would be the preferred behavior. Registry/dll edit hints?)
2. Dual Voicemail notification icons. It keeps the greyscale/standard one and adds its own colorful icon. See screenshot in post below... I'd like to disable one.
Just my small contribution to the community that's given me so much.
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ok, I downloaded both files and ran the cab file and then deleted the vmm.exe file and replaced it with the QVGA non-touch screen one. Then changed my phone from a regular Dash to a Dash 3G on the t-mobile site. I then added the free voicemail to my account.
Does it take a while for this service to activate? When I hit the vmm icon it tries to activate the service and I see the little circle thing working and I get a text message with a bunch of gibberish I am not sure what it is... some technical stuff.. The circle thing keeps coming up and eventually says my account has not been upgraded and asks if I want it to upgrade the account.
I say yes but it tries and cannot even access it even though I have the WiFi active... It says I do not have access to Visual Voicemail. Please upgrade your phone... it has an upgrade option that shows up in the bar on the bottom left of the phone I hit that and it tries to go the web site but cannot.. Do you have to have a data plan for this service to work? I just use WiFi and do not have a data plan or want one... please help if able, Thanks!
Did you reboot after installing the cab?
I got a text like that from "129" before I rebooted.
yes I did reboot after installing the cab and what I stated is what happened after I rebooted..
Can you try grabbing "sms_setup.dll" from "EXT package VVM_1_0_9_RAW1.zip" (its inside the "files" folder) and placing it in /Windows
The HD2 cab doesn't seem to include that one, hmm.
notreally said:
Can you try grabbing "sms_setup.dll" from "EXT package VVM_1_0_9_RAW1.zip" (its inside the "files" folder) and placing it in /Windows
The HD2 cab doesn't seem to include that one, hmm.
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I did what you stated and still cannot get the rascal to work..
ramfan43 said:
I did what you stated and still cannot get the rascal to work..
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In case anybody cares, I figured out what was causing the issue: you need to temporarily disable SMS Bubbles to complete the initial setup. It's intercepting the 129 text before VVM.exe can read it.
Source: http://wp7lab.com/news/microsoft-dogfooding-skype-beta-for-windows-phone/
woooooooooooo
It was destined to anyways...
sounds good. let`s get it to try
Microsoft's Skype division is currently testing an initial Windows Phone client, expected to debut very soon. That's the word from several sources who have confirmed that Microsoft employees are able to download a test version of Skype from the Windows Phone Marketplace.
h--p://venturebeat.com/2012/02/03/skype-windows-phone-7/
we can not dowmload Skype now.