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Charging Loop?!?! Need Help

Hello! I wasn't able to find anything on this so I'm wondering if my phone is defective...
My phone is stuck in a loop...
1.I plug the phone in it will charge for 5 minutes then try to start up
2.The charging will stop during the boot up (on it own)
3.I imagine there's not enough battery power so the phone will shut off
And this will go on in a continuous loop. Also I can't stop it from booting up so that makes it worse...
I just bought the phone and let the battery drain down the for the first time and it started looping this way. Very odd. I have 2 other HTCs (8925 and 8525) and never had this problem...
So I'm wondering is it
1. The Software (config)
2. The Battery
3. The phone
I've searched the internet and it seems like I'm the only one having this problem...
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

Hmmmmmm sounds like a bad phone, I'd return it to your carrier if possible

MimicZ said:
Hello! I wasn't able to find anything on this so I'm wondering if my phone is defective...
My phone is stuck in a loop...
1.I plug the phone in it will charge for 5 minutes then try to start up
2.The charging will stop during the boot up (on it own)
3.I imagine there's not enough battery power so the phone will shut off
And this will go on in a continuous loop. Also I can't stop it from booting up so that makes it worse...
I just bought the phone and let the battery drain down the for the first time and it started looping this way. Very odd. I have 2 other HTCs (8925 and 8525) and never had this problem...
So I'm wondering is it
1. The Software (config)
2. The Battery
3. The phone
I've searched the internet and it seems like I'm the only one having this problem...
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!
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i had a simular situation w/ my mda...i was on vacation, and when the battery drained, it wouldnt take a charge...the problem was that i was using my girlfriends motorola charger which wasnt strong enough charge a completly drained mda battery...
just ensure you are using the charger that came w/ the phone, as many figure (as did i) that one mini-usb charger is as good as another...
hope that helps...

Having the same issue, my Pro2 charges for couple of minutes than reboots and also the battery won't take a full charge so can Hard Reset .
Anyone else resolved this issue

Try booting your phone without the battery, so it doesn't need to charge

Thanks alot it turned out to be the USB cable. It was defective I was using the charger for my 8925 and it was working no problem but when I switch back to the TP2 it didn't work!

[SOLVED!!] Looping Bootloader or startup and unable to charge to reflash

I really don't know what's just happened...I think maybe my TP2 just decided to die on me.
I was using NRGZ Leo ROM from 22nd Feb. All was going well until my battery ran out today. At the time, my daughter was playing a game on it, not from WM, but from the Android port (Haret). While she was playing, I heard the familiar short vibrate of a soft reset. I know my battery was low and I suspect the battery wasn't charging, although it was plugged in (not sure if Android supports charging yet in the later builds)
Anyway, for some reason, it wouldn't go past the vibrate/Touch Pro2 screen. It just kept resetting and looping back. I attempted to do a hardware reset (power button, talk/send, end buttons) but accidently chose the wrong combo (power button, volume down) and entered bootloader. No problem yet, just reset and try again, right? Only I didn't get the chance, as it reset itself and looped through bootloader.
Now I am stuck in this loop. I can't flash from SD as it wont stay on long enough before self-resetting to find the RHODIMG.nbh on the card. I can't connect to my PC as it wont stay in bootloader long enough before self-resetting for my PC to install the "Windows Mobile Device" drivers, and even if it did, when it self-resets, it would disconnect anyway. I can't connect to MTTY for the same reason. I can't connect to ActiveSync or WMDC as I can't boot to WM to get ActiveSync running on the device.
When plugged in to AC power or through USB, it fires itself up automatically and into this loop, and it wont turn off manually, reset or accept any other button combos to enter RUU (from SD method) or to do hard reset. When it is not plugged in to any power source it won't even switch on.
I suspect it is resetting as it is not charging. I'm guessing that when in bootloader, charging is disabled, and I think this because I was originally getting 3 seconds of bootloader, now I am getting around 8 seconds, but it doesn't get any better than that, and I don't know of a rom upgrade method that can be done in 8 seconds! There are a few seconds of charging time before bootloader kicks in and the orange LED goes out and presumably stops charging. Am I right in thinking there is no charging in bootloader and in the Android port (I am using the latest version from 27/2, rhod100).
Basically, to summarise, I am stuck in bootloader-reset-bootloader loop, I cannot connect to pc in any way, flash from SD, Hard Reset, I have very little or no battery and it won't charge because it keeps going into bootloader where there is no charging taking place and it wont turn off to charge that way either.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I don't hold out much hope though. At the moment, it doesn't seem that I am able to interact with it at all to make it do anything different or to manipulate what it is trying to do. Hopefully someone will see something familiar and maybe have some suggestions.
Oh, and by the way, it's nothing to do with a bad flash. I've been doing this for long enough to know what I'm doing, and I wasn't even doing a rom upgrade at the time. My last rom upgrade was 2 days ago and all went well, and I have been using it without problems since, until now. I haven't flashed my Radio or SPL since HSPL was released, so I know it has nothing to do with that either.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can give any advice at all, or even just take pitty on me! Apologies for all the text. I know it looks boring and may put some people off reading, but I needed to get all the info in.

Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?

can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...

shadixs said:
Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?
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I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
clauswl said:
can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...
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If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.

matmaneyre said:
I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.
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I had exactly that problem after a bad romflash. I bought a decktop cradle for the tp 2 that has 2nd. battery charger. Charged the battery and reflash, everything was ok again.
So, juice up the battery and do a hard reset or reflash..
SOMETHING LIKE THIS

I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.

Cheers guys. I thought it might be the rom. Not sure how though as like I said, my last rom flash was a couple of days ago and it was fine. Guess these things just happen sometimes. I'll try and get the battery charged somehow. Trouble is, I don't know another single person who has a TP2, so it looks like the cradle option I think. It did cross my mind to be honest when I was trying to think of alternative charging methods.
As for the warranty idea, if it can be avoided, I'd rather not take that route if I can help it, but thanks for the suggestion. Lets just say that will remain an option as my last resort if all else fails.
Still open to suggestions if anyone knows of any miracles....any Hogwarts graduates kicking about these forums with a few magic words to spare?

Hey man, I had the same issue when my phone wouldn't for some unknown reason charge.
1) Take our your battery
2) Plug in your DESKTOP CHARGER (not USB from PC!!) to microUSB slot
3) Put your battery back
4) Wait few moments (5 minutes)
5) and you are ready to boot, now you can even charge from USB. No idea why, but looks like booting takes more than 500mA :O
If it wont help, swap those 2 and 3 points

Hey guys! Please give this thread a better title. More related to the problem. Sounds like it could be useful in the future for hopefully very few people.

OK, I will change the thread title. I searched for quite a while but couldn't find any similar cases. But it seems it is more common than I thought since I raised the issue, so a new, more specific title might be more beneficial to other users experiencing similar problems.
For the record, I haven't solved it yet. Waiting on a standalone battery charger I bought from eBay. Didn't really want the cradle. THIS is the one I have bought. I will update on my progress when it arrives.
Thanks for your help to all who have contributed so far.

Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.

I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
spark001uk said:
I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.
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Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.

fone_fanatic said:
Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.
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Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.

This might sound a little stupid, but I actually know somebody that said it worked for his iPhone (waste of 3-4 mins if not). Plug in the USB charger from PC. Reboot the PC without disconnecting the phone. Wait 3-4 minutes...

Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.

fone_fanatic said:
I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I left it looping for hours....no joy I'm afraid. Just gonna have to wait for this charger to arrive I think
Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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fone_fanatic said:
from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.
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Definitely doesn't power up plugged in without a battery. Battery needs to be present. Still waiting on this charger though. I'm hoping it's not one of those where it says the item location is Cardiff (UK) when actually it's in Hong Kong and takes 14 years to arrive

soocerclaude said:
Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.
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I really don't think it's the mini usb port as it charges and tries to connect to pc before bootloader kicks in & it all stops.

Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.

soocerclaude said:
Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.
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Well when I unplug the ac adapter, mine doesn't last on bootloader for more than a couple of seconds before dying. Doesn't even get to the RHODIMG.nbh update screen that way - not enough charge (I'm still hoping). Tried charging overnight while looping but still wouldn't charge enough. The trouble is that obviously the bootloader is killing the battery as it's not charging very much.
Got my charger finally....but they sent the wrong one. Waiting on a response from the seller. The "dock" on the charger wasn't big enough, so while the connectors were in the right place to charge the battery, the battery didn't sit flush, so they wouldn't reach the points on the battery itself. Hope they have a TP2 one & it's not just them thinking it's compatible, as it's the only one on the whole of ebay UK that has them in stock in the UK. Don't want to have to wait up to 2 weeks for one from HK.
I will keep you posted anyway.

Hi I brought mine 2 get fix because my warrenty got void due 2 water damage. I think it is the usb port that is causing this, saw in other forums the same thing. Will get back the phone on monday & I will update u on the situation.

TP2 low battery, in reboot loop

I've got a TMOUS TP2 which appears to be stuck in a reboot loop of sorts cause I can't charge the battery.
I've read through the forums and I saw a few similar problems like this but it seems like it those they were stuck at the bootloader, and that's not the case for me.
Basically the battery was down to 14% and I turned off the phone last night intending to charge it this morning. Somehow the battery dropped to 1% by the time I went to turn it on this morning, and it shutdown (really just lost power) right after I started it. So I go to plug it into the wall charger and then:
charge light comes on
after a few seconds charge light goes off
the phone tries to boot (does little vibrate, shows splash)
after the splash screen, phone loses power
charge light comes back on
then tries to boot after a few seconds.
repeat
If left unplugged the phone just sits there dead, but upon plugging it in, it tries to boot.
I've seen it where the phone doesn't have enough power to boot and just needs to be charged for a while, but I can't seem to do that here.
Anyone have any idea how to prevent it from trying to boot after the AC adapter is plugged in?
Thanks

arimp said:
I've got a TMOUS TP2 which appears to be stuck in a reboot loop of sorts cause I can't charge the battery.
Thanks
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If you're desperate...you might try doing a hard-reset.
Why would that help? I don't know...except sometimes when really stuck it helps to just change the situation...try something completely different.
Of course, a hard-reset deletes all data and applications that you've put on the phone, which is why I suggested it as a recourse if desperate.
Probably keep the phone plugged in while doing hard-reset.

Same problem, solved by itself
Hi,
I had a similar problem with a standard TP2, it was clear a battery fault. Phone was working well with a new battery and, of course, another working phone couldn't boot up with the faulty battery.
I took out the defective battery and let it aside for almost 2 weeks. After that it started to work, but the capacity is clearly smaller.
So from my experience, a hard reset wouldn't help you.
Radu

nradu said:
Hi,
I had a similar problem with a standard TP2, it was clear a battery fault. Phone was working well with a new battery and, of course, another working phone couldn't boot up with the faulty battery.
I took out the defective battery and let it aside for almost 2 weeks. After that it started to work, but the capacity is clearly smaller.
So from my experience, a hard reset wouldn't help you.
Radu
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Yes, it goes without saying -- though it's good you did -- that if you have access to another battery that's an obvious thing to try first.
The hard reset is worth trying, in general, for otherwise-unresolvable phone issues.

It's a dead battery. Same exact thing you describe happened to me. Granted, it was because of water damage but same symptoms. Thinking the phone was dead I went and bought a new one. Then I decided to try the new battery, bam, phone back alive. Returned the phone and bought a new battery. By the way, the dash2 battery fits as well. Tmobile stores didn't know it... But the connectors were the same do I tried in the store and it worked.

devis said:
It's a dead battery. Same exact thing you describe happened to me. Granted, it was because of water damage but same symptoms. Thinking the phone was dead I went and bought a new one. Then I decided to try the new battery, bam, phone back alive. Returned the phone and bought a new battery. By the way, the dash2 battery fits as well. Tmobile stores didn't know it... But the connectors were the same do I tried in the store and it worked.
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So it was indeed a dead battery. Oddly I found someone who had a CMDA TP2 from Verizon (mine is GSM TMO), and was able to pop my battery into their phone for a minute or two and charge it to about 5%, then put it back in my phone and all was well. With their phone, plugging in the charger did not cause the phone to start up and then power cycle.
That's really weird "glitch" if you want to call it that. So mental note, don't let the battery run down too far.

Desire DEAD!?

Hi having a little problem with my phone, ive taken it to a few shops and neither could fix it.
ill tell you what i did, i s-off'd my device and it worked well but i didnt like the joker boot splash so i reflashed clockwork mod recovery in hope it would get rid and it did, then i wanted to partition my SD card but realised you couldnt do it through that recovery so i went back to the alpharev recovery! partitioned my sd card and flashed Defrost 6.0k which id had running before the hd rom i had on, i then rebooted my phone and it got stuck in boot loop for some reason? i removed the battery booted into fastboot and it just came up with a blank black screen so i removed the battery again put it back in and tada no power? no led when on charge? any help would be appreciated!

How long have you left it plugged into the charger for? Leave it for about 10 minutes and see if you get any joy with the led.
If that does work, you may have the USB brick. I'm just clutching at straws at the minute though!

i have left it on charge all night still absolutely nothing

Do you get any response when you plug it into a computer? Can you see it using adb?

Me too...
My Desire stopped also working today. Practically same symptoms...
In my case the origin is different, I was on Adamg Oxygen 2.0.1. and loaded the latest kernel from Thalamus 2.6.37 R5. All good, the phone was working for a few hours without issues. Went to sleep and left the phone charging (as usual).
This morning the phone was off, no way to turn it on. No led on charging (probably because batt is full). I can see the leds (green/orange) when on charge and batt off, but it doesnt start, no way to force start to recovery (power+vol-down), no view from laptop via adb, in fact it doesnt even identify the device, which I guess is natural if the device is not starting.
Needless to say that any ideas are more than welcome...

I'm not an expert but it might be dead battery aswell, no idea why people leave their phones charging all night long.. i charge my Desire from about 10% to full in like 1 hour.

u need to take out the batt an see if u can charge it whitout using the phone to charge it

First, thanks for taking the time to reply...
For reference, the batt is full, I checked it with a voltimeter and it is good.
I discharged the batt a bit as well, but so far nothing works...
So not a problem with dead batt...

Ive tried charging without the battery in too, no sign of life!!!

For further reference in case anyone is interested.
Battery is charged (tried with another mobile which started without issue).
I also used the batt from another unit in this "dead" one and same behavior, i.e. no turn on, etc.
Only behavior I can easily replicate:
Phone is off, no charger, batt is removed. Now I place the batt in and connect the charger, the orange lef comes up as if it were charging.
When I press the power button (or the VOL-Down with Power), the led goes off and stays off, the only way to go back to seeing the orange led again is to again, remove batt and charger cable, and then putting again back the batt and the charger (in that order).

[Q] Charging Problems with GN I9250-XXLFA

Hello,
I bought a GN, I9250, European model, made in China 4 days back from a vendor online.
I am having problems charging the phone.
When PHONE is ON
1. When plugged into the included charger/cable, the battery status shows CHARGING (AC) for a few minutes and then changed to NOT CHARGING. Removing the USB plug or switching off the mains and restarting in a minute takes the status back to CHARGING (AC) but again for a few minutes.
2. Tried with multiple chargers and cables with exactly the same results
3. When the phone is connected to USB port in laptop, the charging happens, for a longer duration. The laptop also detects the phone immediately and I can access files etc. After say 20-30 minutes odd the status again goes to NOT CHARGING. However, while the phone is not charging, I can still access files on the phone. This implies the USB connectivity is still perfect, only the charging has stopped.
4. Under no circumstances does the charge go beyond 50% odd, irrespective of the duration of charging
When PHONE is OFF
1. The phone shows the battery icon with bolt for a few seconds and then shuts off. If I click the power button briefly I can see the battery charging icon.
2. I kept the phone in charging with the wall adapter all night, and got 49% charge only, starting from about 10% when put to charge.
The battery indicator graph shows the phone is has never hit a charge level above 65% types.
I have not seen the other charging issue of the phone showing a bolt in the battery icon even if the phone is not plugged in ! (thank god!!!)
I bought it "as new" condition, and performed a factory reset immediately on receiving the phone. So its running stock applications, with almost everything except voice and 2g data on. No applications except Whatsapp are running.
All other aspects of functionality are working well.
I have read hundreds of posts across the web and am not sure what the problem could be with my phone. I am in India and since the phone was bought off the net, its unlikely that it will be provided warranty etc here. In fact I'm not even sure if there will be servicing competency in the technicians here.
I have tried to puch the micro USB tongue by pushing it upwards gently, but cannot really say whether or not it did bend or i was just too fearful. Have tried removing battery etc and all other soft methods written everywhere.
Any help ???

maybe a screwed battery ?

-Jesco- said:
maybe a screwed battery ?
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Hello,
I do suspect it myself, but I don't know how to verify this. Can any other Samsung phone battery be put in the phone or is the phone compatible only with this one? Getting another battery is not possible in the near future since this is not available in India...
Any thoughts on how to check this?

ketu269 said:
Hello,
I do suspect it myself, but I don't know how to verify this. Can any other Samsung phone battery be put in the phone or is the phone compatible only with this one? Getting another battery is not possible in the near future since this is not available in India...
Any thoughts on how to check this?
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I have the same problem, but it's not the battery's fault. My brother also has a GNex, and I tried charging my phone with his battery, and vice-versa, without any luck. I think it's the USB port's fault. Something about power not getting to the phone correctly. Luckily I bought it at a store here. I talked to the owner, and I'm going to exchange it for a new one tomorrow.

edinchez said:
I have the same problem, but it's not the battery's fault. My brother also has a GNex, and I tried charging my phone with his battery, and vice-versa, without any luck. I think it's the USB port's fault. Something about power not getting to the phone correctly. Luckily I bought it at a store here. I talked to the owner, and I'm going to exchange it for a new one tomorrow.
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Hello,
I found another GN and did this experiment.
1. When I plugged in my battery which was showing 53% on my phone into the other phone it showed 79%.
2. When I charged the other GN with my battery inside, it charged to 100%
3. When I put my battery back into my phone, it showed 67%
4. When I put in the other GN battery into my phone it showed 49%, while it was showing 82% in the other GN.
5. I was able to charge this other battery in my phone to 60%.
6. When I put it back into the other GN it showed 94% charge.
Apparently my battery seems to be ok. Also, it seems that my phone is charging ok too. But there may be a problem with the phone detecting the battery level !!
Any thoughts?

Hello,
i have exact the same problem. I tried 3 batteries a lot of chargers and i changed the Charging Port Flex Cable.
This all without success
The Problem is, sometimes it charge to 50%, the most it charge to 75% and one time i get it to 81% yeah
So does it give any help for this Problem ?
Goofy

goofy_79 said:
Hello,
i have exact the same problem. I tried 3 batteries a lot of chargers and i changed the Charging Port Flex Cable.
This all without success
The Problem is, sometimes it charge to 50%, the most it charge to 75% and one time i get it to 81% yeah
So does it give any help for this Problem ?
Goofy
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some battery got data issues where phone cant recognize the exact capacity. try check *#*#4636#*#* your capacity of ****mah should be correctly read by phone here. if not, change your battery immediately bcoz big issues will coming up

here the screenshots .. first i plug out and in the power plug ...
and a few minutes later it stop charging
But the Phone see is connected to the AC ??
memaro_maro said:
some battery got data issues where phone cant recognize the exact capacity. try check *#*#4636#*#* your capacity of ****mah should be correctly read by phone here. if not, change your battery immediately bcoz big issues will coming up
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goofy_79 said:
here the screenshots .. first i plug out and in the power plug ...
and a few minutes later it stop charging
But the Phone see is connected to the AC ??
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your battery got data detected.. maybe this 3800mah extended battery was totally crap.
give 2-3 day period. charge wt ac plug & usb charging method. see if got any different between this 2 merhod. if not, try buy the good replacement before your emmc fried.
* maybe u should ask to another forum.. gnex accessories /batteries. they must be got some experiences wt this type of extended batteries. maybe.??